How to reproduce the DEC cabinets' grey colour paint?

2022-07-12 Thread P Gebhardt via cctalk
Hello list, 

does anybody of you know colour codes or the mixture to obtain the grey paint 
that DEC used for their early H960 cabinet side panels as well as for their 
later cabinet from the 80s and 90s like the H9A10 or H9A15? 
Some of my cabinets have scratches and I would like to cosmetically fix this. 
I thought I remember some discussions about DEC paint some years ago but I 
couldn't find anything helpful in my archives except for discussions about 
colours for DEC's classic front panels. 
Any pointers are very much appreciated.
Thanks, 
Pierre


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http://www.digitalheritage.de


Re: MicroVAX CTI (DEC Professional) card

2022-07-12 Thread Bjoren Davis via cctalk


On 7/13/2022 3:02 AM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote:



Does anyone know anything about this card?  Especially curious is the 
daughtercard connector: is it just for RAM expansion or is the daughtercard 
necessary for card operation?

Daughtercard almost looks like a Pro memory board, but those were 16 bit and 
only 256kw in size if I recall. That's can't be enough to do anything useful.

The standard ones, yes, but the connector and address wires supported up to a 
MW per board, perhaps even 2.  It's mentioned in the Pro technical manual.  I 
thought about building such a beast, never did.


I actually did design and build such a board, and yes, it supports up to 
2 MB (on the PC380 only).


But the connector on the eBay board can't be a connector for a DEC 
Professional RAM daughtercard because it's the wrong gender and has too 
many positions.  The DEC Pro RAM daughtercards also have header sockets, 
not pins, and they either have 40 positions (PC325/PC350) or 48 
positions (PC380).  The eBay board seems to have a connector with 2x32 = 
64 positions.


--Bjoren


Re: MicroVAX CTI (DEC Professional) card

2022-07-12 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk



> On Jul 12, 2022, at 3:48 PM, Chris Zach via cctalk  
> wrote:
> 
>> Recently eBay seller smhelectronics261 posted a very interesting prototype 
>> board: https://www.ebay.com/itm/295087630609
>> The description is "Dec Digital PRO 350/380 Professional Microvax II Proto 
>> 54-16707 Collectors", and the board art mentions "MICROVAX SOFTCARD."
> 
> Well, that is a weird concept. Maybe they were gunning to make the absolutely 
> slowest Vax system ever, the MV1 just wasn't enough of a challenge
> 
>> Does anyone know anything about this card?  Especially curious is the 
>> daughtercard connector: is it just for RAM expansion or is the daughtercard 
>> necessary for card operation?
> 
> Daughtercard almost looks like a Pro memory board, but those were 16 bit and 
> only 256kw in size if I recall. That's can't be enough to do anything useful.

The standard ones, yes, but the connector and address wires supported up to a 
MW per board, perhaps even 2.  It's mentioned in the Pro technical manual.  I 
thought about building such a beast, never did.

paul



Re: MicroVAX CTI (DEC Professional) card

2022-07-12 Thread Chris Zach via cctalk
Recently eBay seller smhelectronics261 posted a very interesting 
prototype board: https://www.ebay.com/itm/295087630609


The description is "Dec Digital PRO 350/380 Professional Microvax II 
Proto 54-16707 Collectors", and the board art mentions "MICROVAX SOFTCARD."


Well, that is a weird concept. Maybe they were gunning to make the 
absolutely slowest Vax system ever, the MV1 just wasn't enough of a 
challenge


Does anyone know anything about this card?  Especially curious is the 
daughtercard connector: is it just for RAM expansion or is the 
daughtercard necessary for card operation?


Daughtercard almost looks like a Pro memory board, but those were 16 bit 
and only 256kw in size if I recall. That's can't be enough to do 
anything useful.


I'll be bidding on the board, but given how pricey CTI boards have 
gotten recently (a DECNA card from the same seller recently sold for 
$422.99), I probably won't win.  If the winner of the auction reads 
this, could they please contact me?  I'd like to collect an image of the 
boot ROM from the board, if possible.


I might drop a bid on it, but that's one of those serious "what the hell 
would I do with it" sort of things. I still can't believe that DEC would 
try to run Microvax code on a system like the Pro with a hard drive 
controller which was slower than a literal snail


Maybe DEC had an RQDX3 or ESDI CTI controller with real DMA somewhere in 
the works?


Re: Vintage Computing Hosting [Was: List migration]

2022-07-12 Thread Bill Degnan via cctalk
On Mon, Jul 11, 2022 at 10:25 AM Jonathan Chapman via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> We do hosting for a few other hobbyists, and Andy Meyer has his Sony
> SMC-70 pages on users.glitchwrks.com subdomain:
>
> http://users.glitchwrks.com/~ahm/smc70/
>
> Not really advertised as a service, just one of those things where a few
> friends have needed a place to host a few things!
>
> Thanks,
> Jonathan
>

Yah, basically me too.
Bill


MicroVAX CTI (DEC Professional) card

2022-07-12 Thread Bjoren Davis via cctalk

Hello Classic fans,

Recently eBay seller smhelectronics261 posted a very interesting 
prototype board: https://www.ebay.com/itm/295087630609


The description is "Dec Digital PRO 350/380 Professional Microvax II 
Proto 54-16707 Collectors", and the board art mentions "MICROVAX SOFTCARD."


Does anyone know anything about this card?  Especially curious is the 
daughtercard connector: is it just for RAM expansion or is the 
daughtercard necessary for card operation?


The photographs are fuzzy, but the more recent chip date I can see is 
8536 (on one of the QFPs).  This puts the board in the time period of 
the MicroVAX II development.


The internal "MicroVAX Business Plan" 
(http://bitsavers.org/pdf/dec/vax/610/memos/Microvax_Business_Plan_Dec83.pdf) 
mentions a "Meteor" project (p. 11).  It describes Meteor as:


   Meteor is Digital's first single-user MicroVAX product. Developed
   within Low End Engineering, the product is positioned as a strong
   competitor in the low end, technical/scientific and the high end
   office/business graphics workstation market. Meteor should be an
   effective follow-on product to the Professional Series and high end
   VAX/Seahorse workstations. Although not a replacement product per
   se, Meteor represents a clear migration path for PRO users upward in
   functionality, and for VAX Workstation applications downward to a
   lower cost, single user design.

Does anyone know if this board is Meteor?

I'll be bidding on the board, but given how pricey CTI boards have 
gotten recently (a DECNA card from the same seller recently sold for 
$422.99), I probably won't win.  If the winner of the auction reads 
this, could they please contact me?  I'd like to collect an image of the 
boot ROM from the board, if possible.


Thanks.

--Bjoren


RE: Information on Trend UTR 700 Paper Tape Reader and Facit 4060 Punch

2022-07-12 Thread Martin Bishop via cctalk
It is a UDR 700, my dyslexia and why I did not find your posts from 2020.
A copy of the user manual would be very much apreciated, as would info on the 
unibus interface.
However, I'm quite happy to interface to the back of the reader "I think".
I shall eMail you privately details of an FTP site you could upload to.
Martin

-Original Message-
From: Tony Duell [mailto:ard.p850...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 12 July 2022 04:45
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts 
Cc: Martin Bishop 
Subject: Re: Information on Trend UTR 700 Paper Tape Reader and Facit 4060 Punch

On Mon, Jul 11, 2022 at 7:32 AM Martin Bishop via cctalk 
 wrote:
>
> Google turns up very little specific information on either of these devices, 
> e.g. nil return from bit savers.
>
> The best leads I have are:
> - The UTR 700 was badge engineered by Ferranti into FM1600B systems, one of 
> which fetched up at the Centre for Computer History, Cambridge, England; 
> perhaps with documentation.  Also, as it was used in government systems some 
> maintenance documentation may have fetched up in the PRO, at Kew.

Are you sure it's a UTR700 and not a UDR700? The latter is a 'UniDirectional 
Reader' running at 700 characters/second. I've seen them badge-engeered 
'Solartron' too. I also have a Unibus interface for them.

If it is a UDR700, I have the 'user' manual which includes full schematics, 
parts lists, alignment data, etc. I did offer this to bitsavers along with the 
manual for the HSR500 (bidirectional, 500
cps) but they weren't interested. Unfortunately the manual is nearly 140MBytes 
(my scanner software is very inefficient!) so too large to post or e-mail, but 
I can snail-mail a CD-ROM or memory stick with it on.

-tony


RE: Xerox 800 Word Processor 1974 promo film

2022-07-12 Thread D. Resor via cctalk
In a search I found a digital brochure for the Xerox 800.  
 
The text is in Dutch.  The text can be highlighted therefore I think it can be 
then sent to a translator.
 
https://classic.technology/xerox-800/
 
Don Resor
 
From: Eric Smith  
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2022 11:56 AM
To: D. Resor ; General Discussion: On-Topic and 
Off-Topic Posts 
Subject: Re: Xerox 800 Word Processor 1974 promo film
 
Anyone know what's inside the Xerox 800? There seems to be little information 
online about any of the 800 series other than the 820. Based on the year of 
introduction of the 800, and allowing for time prior to that spent in 
development, I'm guessing that it's not microprocessor-based. (Whereas the 820 
is.)
 
Eric
 
 
On Sat, Jul 2, 2022, 03:50 D. Resor via cctalk mailto:cctalk@classiccmp.org> > wrote:
This video just popped up in my YT view.  It was posted a couple days ago.

At the end of the video, a recap of several Xerox computer products are
shown.

XEROX Word Processing Machines & Computers 1975 (Xerox 800 vintage promo
film)

https://youtu.be/Zkl80BAiaIw 

Computer History Archive

Don Resor