Re: oh, this is great news!
On Fri, Sep 01, 2017 at 02:37:19PM -0500, Eric Christopherson via cctalk wrote: > On Fri, Sep 1, 2017 at 12:43 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk < > cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > [...] > > > > X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on mx2.ezwind.net > > X-Spam-Flag: YES > > X-Spam-Level: > > > > So, why it was passed and not simply bit-bucketed is a mystery to me. > > > > > > --Chuck > > > > Strangely, the original message went through Gmail just fine, but your > reply (Chuck) is flagged as spam. > > -- > Eric Christopherson Actually, in my mbox the message from Chuck (message id: <82445620-73b1-af30-2e1d-3317d7aab...@sydex.com>) is tagged as not spam. What really happened, I think gog has their own spam solution, and a little bit wonky one, so it interpreted part of Chuck's msgbody as part of msgheader, because it is/was part of some header and had been inserted into the body as it was, i.e. without leading space, hash, bang or anything, which could distinguish it as a not-header (see above, I have marked those lines with quad hashes, then see the body of Chuck's message). Of course other programs were able to understand that once header ends, the rest is a message body. Maybe they did one sort too many and thus part of body has got where only header lines were supposed to go. I smell hashtable packed with lines, or something that similarly anonymises the origin of text parts. Hard to believe I spent so much time on writing this, given that it is going to be lost as offtopic and generally "not our problem" (well, not mine, but if I ever process email with my own code, this one is good to remember - some people deliberately insert header lines into their body). -- Regards, Tomasz Rola -- ** A C programmer asked whether computer had Buddha's nature. ** ** As the answer, master did "rm -rif" on the programmer's home** ** directory. And then the C programmer became enlightened... ** ** ** ** Tomasz Rola mailto:tomasz_r...@bigfoot.com **
Re: oh, this is great news!
On Fri, 1 Sep 2017, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: complaint over at godaddy.com's hosting forums. There's your problem. It's the cost of hosting with that dumpster fire known as "godaddy". g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home. Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://scarlet.deltasoft.com - Get it _today_!
Re: oh, this is great news!
On 09/01/2017 12:37 PM, Eric Christopherson wrote: > > Strangely, the original message went through Gmail just fine, but your > reply (Chuck) is flagged as spam. I have no idea of what's going on--best to whitelist me if you want to see my posts--OTOH, maybe not. :) I've noticed that some of the mail spam classifying services (DNSBL for example) automatically dun a whole domain. Since I relay my mail through secureserver.net, that means that the thousands of people who use the secureserver domain get slammed as spam. It's a very common complaint over at godaddy.com's hosting forums. Spam, unfortunately, like junk calls and telemarketers is getting smarter.The folks at paypal.com report that over 95% of all email is spam. The price of progress? --Chuck
Re: oh, this is great news!
On Fri, Sep 1, 2017 at 12:43 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > On 09/01/2017 10:26 AM, Kip Koon via cctalk wrote: > > What is it that is great news. This is all I received. > > > > Kip Koon > > computer...@sc.rr.com > > http://www.cocopedia.com/wiki/index.php/User:Computerdoc > > > > -Original Message- > > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Beulah > Thurman via cctalk > > Sent: Friday, September 01, 2017 1:17 PM > > To: General Discussion On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > > Subject: Fw: oh, this is great news! > > > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > > RGVhciEgDQoNCkkndmUgZ290ICBhbiAgZXh0cmVtZWx5IGdyZWF0IG5ld3Mg > Zm9yIHlvdSwgeW91 > > IHdpbGwgIGJlIHNpbXBseSBhc3RvbmlzaGVkKSBQbGVhc2UgcmVhZCBpdCBo > ZXJlIGh0dHA6Ly93 > > d3cuZmVybmFuZG9ub2d1ZWlyYWltb3ZlaXMuY29tLmJyL2V4Y2Vzc2l2ZS5w > aHA/VUU5alkzUmhi > > R3RBWTJ4aGMzTnBZMk50Y0M1dmNtYy0NCg0KQmV1bGFoIFRodXJtYW4NCg0K > > What it is is spam--and itflunked the Spamassassin spam tests: > > X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on mx2.ezwind.net > X-Spam-Flag: YES > X-Spam-Level: > > So, why it was passed and not simply bit-bucketed is a mystery to me. > > > --Chuck > Strangely, the original message went through Gmail just fine, but your reply (Chuck) is flagged as spam. -- Eric Christopherson
RE: oh, this is great news!
There is supposed to be a rule inside mailman, that if the x-spam-score exceeds X (where X is I don't recall at the moment) it is deleted automatically before moderation. I'll check on why it made it. J
Re: oh, this is great news!
> On Sep 1, 2017, at 1:43 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk > wrote: > > > What it is is spam--and itflunked the Spamassassin spam tests: > > X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on mx2.ezwind.net > X-Spam-Flag: YES > X-Spam-Level: > > So, why it was passed and not simply bit-bucketed is a mystery to me. Perhaps because some of those blacklists at times block things for political reasons? I remember when one of them decided to block every comcast address, because of some braindead notion I could never quite understand. paul
Re: oh, this is great news!
On 09/01/2017 10:26 AM, Kip Koon via cctalk wrote: > What is it that is great news. This is all I received. > > Kip Koon > computer...@sc.rr.com > http://www.cocopedia.com/wiki/index.php/User:Computerdoc > > -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Beulah > Thurman via cctalk > Sent: Friday, September 01, 2017 1:17 PM > To: General Discussion On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > Subject: Fw: oh, this is great news! > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > RGVhciEgDQoNCkkndmUgZ290ICBhbiAgZXh0cmVtZWx5IGdyZWF0IG5ld3MgZm9yIHlvdSwgeW91 > IHdpbGwgIGJlIHNpbXBseSBhc3RvbmlzaGVkKSBQbGVhc2UgcmVhZCBpdCBoZXJlIGh0dHA6Ly93 > d3cuZmVybmFuZG9ub2d1ZWlyYWltb3ZlaXMuY29tLmJyL2V4Y2Vzc2l2ZS5waHA/VUU5alkzUmhi > R3RBWTJ4aGMzTnBZMk50Y0M1dmNtYy0NCg0KQmV1bGFoIFRodXJtYW4NCg0K What it is is spam--and itflunked the Spamassassin spam tests: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on mx2.ezwind.net X-Spam-Flag: YES X-Spam-Level: So, why it was passed and not simply bit-bucketed is a mystery to me. --Chuck
RE: oh, this is great news!
On Fri, 1 Sep 2017, Kip Koon via cctalk wrote: What is it that is great news. This is all I received. You don't want any of the rest. The [full] headers include some amusing commentary by various spam identifier programs.
RE: oh, this is great news!
What is it that is great news. This is all I received. Kip Koon computer...@sc.rr.com http://www.cocopedia.com/wiki/index.php/User:Computerdoc -Original Message- From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Beulah Thurman via cctalk Sent: Friday, September 01, 2017 1:17 PM To: General Discussion On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Fw: oh, this is great news! Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" RGVhciEgDQoNCkkndmUgZ290ICBhbiAgZXh0cmVtZWx5IGdyZWF0IG5ld3MgZm9yIHlvdSwgeW91 IHdpbGwgIGJlIHNpbXBseSBhc3RvbmlzaGVkKSBQbGVhc2UgcmVhZCBpdCBoZXJlIGh0dHA6Ly93 d3cuZmVybmFuZG9ub2d1ZWlyYWltb3ZlaXMuY29tLmJyL2V4Y2Vzc2l2ZS5waHA/VUU5alkzUmhi R3RBWTJ4aGMzTnBZMk50Y0M1dmNtYy0NCg0KQmV1bGFoIFRodXJtYW4NCg0K