Re: burning problems..

2002-06-21 Thread E. Robert Bogusta

On Thu, 20 Jun 2002, Joerg Schilling wrote:

 One of both driver _must_ be buggy.

No question, the point was that it works correctly with ATAPI. I would
even agree that the problem is likely to be in sg, if Doug is reading he
may or may be comment.
 
 Try readcd dev=xxx f=/dev/null

I will do that, and also try writing TAO, SAO, DAO and see what it does.
 
 If it fails for the last sectors, the CD has been written in TAO and the driver
 that does not fail is buggy and you should send a bug report to the maintainer.

Was that a finger check, or did you really mean that failing is correct
behaviour? And what mode is default for burning data (mkisofs output)?

Yes, I will load the latest a24 to the test machine before trying the
burns.

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Re: burning problems..

2002-06-21 Thread Joerg Schilling


From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Jun 21 15:34:34 2002

 Try readcd dev=xxx f=/dev/null

I will do that, and also try writing TAO, SAO, DAO and see what it does.
 
 If it fails for the last sectors, the CD has been written in TAO and the driver
 that does not fail is buggy and you should send a bug report to the maintainer.

Was that a finger check, or did you really mean that failing is correct
behaviour? And what mode is default for burning data (mkisofs output)?

Right, failing is correct behavior for media written in TAO.

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Re: burning problems..

2002-06-20 Thread Joerg Schilling

From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Jun 20 18:58:58 2002

I read the same CD on the same hardware with the same application software
(your sdd) and I have changed on the use of IDE-CD or IDE-SCSI. I have
changed only one thing and if you change less than that I can't call it a
comparison.

Using the IDE-CD driver the end of data is found, the file written to disk
is correct. Using IDE-SCSI there is an error trying to read one sector
beyond end of data, but the file written to disk is identical. Using my
own program I not no error in either case, but I'm not trying to do some
fancy queueing of reads to issue one before checking the status of the
previous. No, I didn't say you were doing that, just that I'm not.
 
 But if you use the same media for testing, the ATAPI CD-ROM drivers are broken.

Everything is the same but the driver, what media do you think could be
more same?

  sdd if=/dev/scd0 of=ide-scsi.iso bs=100k
vs.
  sdd if=/dev/hdc of=ide-cd.iso bs=100k

One of both driver _must_ be buggy.

Try readcd dev=xxx f=/dev/null

If it fails for the last sectors, the CD has been written in TAO and the driver
that does not fail is buggy and you should send a bug report to the maintainer.



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Re: burning problems..

2002-06-18 Thread E. Robert Bogusta

On Wed, 12 Jun 2002, Joerg Schilling wrote:

 Because the Linux kernel guys are too stupid to understand that this
 should be the default (as it is in nearly all other OS including win32) :-(

This is why people don't want to work with you, you are rude and arrogant.
You assume that anyone who does not agree with you is stupid, and as a
result people don't use your code and don't accept your suggestions. You
fit the stereotype of a geek (don't know the German word) with fantastic
technical skills and no social skills.

It has zero to do with kernel developers, it is a **CHOICE** the
distribution or user can make. People choose to do it the way which works
best for them. Live with it.

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Re: burning problems..

2002-06-18 Thread Joerg Schilling

From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Jun 18 15:20:11 2002

On Wed, 12 Jun 2002, Joerg Schilling wrote:

 Because the Linux kernel guys are too stupid to understand that this
 should be the default (as it is in nearly all other OS including win32) :-(

This is why people don't want to work with you, you are rude and arrogant.

Sorry - it definitely is the other way round!

I have been very polite in former days and Linux people have been very rude and 
arrogant Not that I see that that are either unwilling or unable to 
cooperate, I name things.

You assume that anyone who does not agree with you is stupid, and as a
result people don't use your code and don't accept your suggestions. You
fit the stereotype of a geek (don't know the German word) with fantastic
technical skills and no social skills.

It has zero to do with kernel developers, it is a **CHOICE** the
distribution or user can make. People choose to do it the way which works
best for them. Live with it.

Wrong: There are too many bugs in the kernel that do not ocur for the average 
user and thus never get fixed as long as the default kernel configuration is 
not using a model that fits ATAPI drives.

.. They tell me that they cannot change this because it would break too much
but why then did they change the VM system after 2.4 has been released?



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Re: burning problems..

2002-06-11 Thread Denis Pelletier

On 12 Jun 2002, gabor wrote:

{ hi,
{ 
{ i have mandrake8.2 here...
{ 
{ i'm using a HP9100 ( 32read/8write/4rewrite ) eide cd-burner..
{ 
{ the problem is that i didn't manage to create a perfect cd yet..
{ the cd's mostly work, but aren't perfect..
{ 
{ in windows i have burned something like 300 cd's without problems..
{ 
{ in linux, i have to use the scsi emulation...
{ 
{ burning the cd's produce various errors, like:
{ 
{ -cdrecord wasn't able to blank an rw, which was burnt using the same
{ cdrecord.
{ 
{ -i burned the iso image of the first Mandrake82 cd. i mounted the iso
{ file, it was ok. after burning it, i got the following problem:
{   
{ i went into my cd-directory ( /mnt/cdrom) and issued a simple 'ls'
{ command.. i got the following:
{ ls: .: Stale NFS file handle...
{ i can browse the cd for example with midnight commander, i can copy any
{ file from the cd to my harddisk.. i can even boot from that cd ( it's a
{ bootable one ).. but i can't 'ls' it, and there is a .rr_moved empty
{ folder on the cd, which shouldn't be there... there isn't a folder like
{ that in the iso image...

Hello,

I think your problem is related to supermount and has no link to cdrecord 
and your cd-burner. Are you able to use 'ls' with a regular cd?

I can't help you with any supermount problem because it's one of the first 
thing I disable on my Mandrake machine. If it's a supermount problem you 
could send your question to http://www.mandrakeexpert.com (Mandrake 
support channel).

Denis
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Denis Pelletier
Étudiant au doctorat
sciences économiques, Université de Montréal


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Re: burning problems..

2002-06-11 Thread gabor

 { i went into my cd-directory ( /mnt/cdrom) and issued a simple 'ls'
 { command.. i got the following:
 { ls: .: Stale NFS file handle...
 { i can browse the cd for example with midnight commander, i can copy any
 { file from the cd to my harddisk.. i can even boot from that cd ( it's a
 { bootable one ).. but i can't 'ls' it, and there is a .rr_moved empty
 { folder on the cd, which shouldn't be there... there isn't a folder like
 { that in the iso image...
 
 Hello,
 
 I think your problem is related to supermount and has no link to cdrecord 
 and your cd-burner. Are you able to use 'ls' with a regular cd?
 
 I can't help you with any supermount problem because it's one of the first 
 thing I disable on my Mandrake machine. If it's a supermount problem you 
 could send your question to http://www.mandrakeexpert.com (Mandrake 
 support channel).

yes i'm using cdrecord... i could disable it

but i'm able to read ( using 'ls' ) my other cd's...
and could supermount interfere with the burning process?

because simply there's that .rr_moved folder which shouldn't be there...

thanks,
gabor


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Re: burning problems..

2002-06-11 Thread gabor

On Wed, 2002-06-12 at 03:05, gabor wrote:
  { i went into my cd-directory ( /mnt/cdrom) and issued a simple 'ls'
  { command.. i got the following:
  { ls: .: Stale NFS file handle...
  { i can browse the cd for example with midnight commander, i can copy any
  { file from the cd to my harddisk.. i can even boot from that cd ( it's a
  { bootable one ).. but i can't 'ls' it, and there is a .rr_moved empty
  { folder on the cd, which shouldn't be there... there isn't a folder like
  { that in the iso image...
  
  Hello,
  
  I think your problem is related to supermount and has no link to cdrecord 
  and your cd-burner. Are you able to use 'ls' with a regular cd?
  
  I can't help you with any supermount problem because it's one of the first 
  thing I disable on my Mandrake machine. If it's a supermount problem you 
  could send your question to http://www.mandrakeexpert.com (Mandrake 
  support channel).
 
 yes i'm using cdrecord... i could disable it

i meant supermount

 
 but i'm able to read ( using 'ls' ) my other cd's...
 and could supermount interfere with the burning process?
 
 because simply there's that .rr_moved folder which shouldn't be there...
 
 thanks,
 gabor
 
 
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