subject:"\[CentOS\] Frustrated. Java on Centos 6 doesn't give an error message when downloading from a Samsung Galaxy S3"

On Thu, 30 May 2013 14:04:33 -0700, sms wrote:

 I thought that the Galaxy S3 has PTP mode.
 If so, put the phone in PTP mode.
 https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=671906

The bug report doesn't show *how* to put the Samsung Galaxy S3
in PTP mode (which I know nothing about).

Googling How to put samsung galaxy s3 in ptp mode, I find:
 
http://www.samsunggalaxys3forum.com/forum/samsung-galaxy-s3-help/1619-can-someone-tell-me-how-put-my-phone-ptp-mode.html

Which says:
1. Connect the phone (in that case, to the Mac)
2. Pull down the notification bar (in that case, on the Samsung phone)
3. Tap on the connection (in that case, the same USB connection)
4. Select PTP mode (to transfer photos)

When I tried that on Linux:
1. Connect the phone by USB to Centos 6 (this pops up first):
   http://www3.picturepush.com/photo/a/13198631/img/13198631.png
2. Pull down the notification bar (Connected as a media device):
   http://www3.picturepush.com/photo/a/13199411/img/13199411.png
3. Tap on the Ongoing connection:
   http://www4.picturepush.com/photo/a/13199412/640/13199412.png
4. Select PTP mode:
   http://www3.picturepush.com/photo/a/13199481/img/13199481.png
5. The Samsung Galaxy S3 is now in Connected as a camera:
   http://www1.picturepush.com/photo/a/13199514/img/13199514.png

Hmmm... this pops up again, on the Desktop:
 http://www3.picturepush.com/photo/a/13198631/img/13198631.png

But, wait! This then shows up in the menus in a few seconds:
 http://www5.picturepush.com/photo/a/13199313/img/13199313.png

And, for the first time, the folders are no longer zero size:
 http://www5.picturepush.com/photo/a/13199358/img/13199358.png

Pensively, I click on the DCIM folder, hoilding my breath:
 http://www1.picturepush.com/photo/a/13199374/img/13199374.png

Voila! Success at last!
It's so simple, once you already know the answer!

PS: I'm not sure if there is a graceful way to disconnect;
and, I'm not sure if I should leave the phone in PTP mode; 
but, the good news is that single and multiple photo transfer 
by USB wire now works, in PTP mode, on the Samsung Galaxy S3!


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Re: [CentOS] Frustrated. Java on Centos 6 doesn't give an error message when downloading from a Samsung Galaxy S3

On Fri, 31 May 2013 16:57:32 +, Rock wrote:

 I'm not sure if there is a graceful way to disconnect;
 and, I'm not sure if I should leave the phone in PTP mode; 

In summary, the solution to transferring files by wire from
the Samsung Galaxy S3 (and other Android 4.x phones) is to
switch the smartphone from MTP mode to PTP mode.

The key question left, is whether we should switch the
phone back to MTP mode when done; or if it's OK to just 
leave Android phones in PTP mode forever.

http://www2.picturepush.com/photo/a/13200920/img/13200920.gif


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Re: [CentOS] Frustrated. Java on Centos 6 doesn't give an error message when downloading from a Samsung Galaxy S3

2013-05-31 Thread John R Pierce

On 5/31/2013 11:34 AM, Rock wrote:
 In summary, the solution to transferring files by wire from
 the Samsung Galaxy S3 (and other Android 4.x phones) is to
 switch the smartphone from MTP mode to PTP mode.

 The key question left, is whether we should switch the
 phone back to MTP mode when done; or if it's OK to just
 leave Android phones in PTP mode forever.


that setting only affects how the device presents itself to a USB host, 
it otherwise does nothing.   so leave it in the mode you want the USB 
connection to operate in.



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Re: [CentOS] Frustrated. Java on Centos 6 doesn't give an error message when downloading from a Samsung Galaxy S3

On Fri, 31 May 2013 11:50:03 -0700, John R Pierce wrote:

 leave it in the mode you want the USB 
 connection to operate in.

Thanks. I'll leave the Android 4.0.4 phone in PTP mode then.

In order to be thorough, I wanted to write up a summary to
help others; so, to see if it was the updated libmtp that 
made the difference, I ran the following:

$ sudo yum remove libmtp (this removed the updated libmtp)
$ sudo yum install rhythmbox (this installed the old libmtp)
  ( replaced the missing rhythmbox)
$ sudo yum --enablerepo rpmforge install vlc (this replaced VLC)

Then, I plugged in the Samsung Galaxy S3 by USB cable
(with the media mode set to PTP camera mode).

Drat! 
Nothing happened.

Lesson learned: The solution requires more steps, which may be
(at the very least)
a) Update libmtp on Centos
b) Switch the Android 4.0.4 phone from MTP to PTP (camera mode).
c) ? unknown other steps ?

Luckily, I documented all the steps performed in the past few
weeks so I simply repeated the successful ones.

Namely, I removed the old libmtp again (see previous posts in this 
thread for details) and re-installed the new libmtp, but, nothing 
showed up when I plugged in the phone by USB cable.

Hmmm... So I rebooted the Centos laptop to see if that made a
difference.

OK, I rebooted, and PTP mode is working again. 

So, this seems to be the sequence for the next person to 
follow in our footsteps on Centos 6 with an Android 4.0.4 phone:
1. Remove the original libmtp
NOTE: This will remove rhythmbox and vlc  any other program 
  with dependencies on libmtp)
2. Update libmtp with Scott's libmtp
3. Reboot the Centos6 PC == this is an important step!
4. Switch the Android 4.x phone from MTP to PTP mode (if not already)
5. Connect the Android phone by USB cable 

The one problem I'm having now is that I can't re-install 
rhythmbox  vlc.

This failed after the newer libmtp was installed:
$ sudo yum install rhymthbox
== Error: Package: rhythmbox-0.12.8-1.el6.x86_64 (base)
== Requires: libmtp.so.8()(64bit)
== Available: libmtp-1.0.1-2.el6.x86_64 (base) libmtp.so.8()(64bit)
== Installed: libmtp-1.1.6-0.el6.x86_64 (installed) Not found
== You could try using --skip-broken to work around the problem
== You could try running: rpm -Va --nofiles --nodigest

Not knowing how to proceed, I vainly tried the suggested 
--skip-broken option, but it simply skipped the install 
altogether:
sudo yum install rhythmbox --skip-broken
== Processing Dependency: libmtp.so.8()
== (64bit) for package: rhythmbox-0.12.8-1.el6.x86_64
== Packages skipped because of dependency problems: 
== rhythmbox-0.12.8-1.el6.x86_64 from base

So, I guess the question is:
Q: How do I install rhythmbox  vlc with the newer libmtp?


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Re: [CentOS] Frustrated. Java on Centos 6 doesn't give an error message when downloading from a Samsung Galaxy S3

2013-05-31 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic

On 05/31/2013 10:50 PM, Rock wrote:
 On Fri, 31 May 2013 11:50:03 -0700, John R Pierce wrote:

 leave it in the mode you want the USB
 connection to operate in.

 Thanks. I'll leave the Android 4.0.4 phone in PTP mode then.
snip
 So, this seems to be the sequence for the next person to
 follow in our footsteps on Centos 6 with an Android 4.0.4 phone:
 1. Remove the original libmtp
 NOTE: This will remove rhythmbox and vlc  any other program
with dependencies on libmtp)
 2. Update libmtp with Scott's libmtp
 3. Reboot the Centos6 PC == this is an important step!
 4. Switch the Android 4.x phone from MTP to PTP mode (if not already)
 5. Connect the Android phone by USB cable

 The one problem I'm having now is that I can't re-install
 rhythmbox  vlc.

 This failed after the newer libmtp was installed:
 $ sudo yum install rhymthbox
 == Error: Package: rhythmbox-0.12.8-1.el6.x86_64 (base)
 == Requires: libmtp.so.8()(64bit)
 == Available: libmtp-1.0.1-2.el6.x86_64 (base) libmtp.so.8()(64bit)
 == Installed: libmtp-1.1.6-0.el6.x86_64 (installed) Not found
 == You could try using --skip-broken to work around the problem
 == You could try running: rpm -Va --nofiles --nodigest

 Not knowing how to proceed, I vainly tried the suggested
 --skip-broken option, but it simply skipped the install
 altogether:
 sudo yum install rhythmbox --skip-broken
 == Processing Dependency: libmtp.so.8()
 == (64bit) for package: rhythmbox-0.12.8-1.el6.x86_64
 == Packages skipped because of dependency problems:
 == rhythmbox-0.12.8-1.el6.x86_64 from base

 So, I guess the question is:
 Q: How do I install rhythmbox  vlc with the newer libmtp?

That is best solved by asking Red Hat (opening a bug) to update libmtp 
and rhythmbox packages. If they accept, then vlc will be recompiled by 
all third-party repositories, and problem solved for all RHEL/CentOS/SL 
users.

If not, one or all the third-party repositories will have to create 
libmtp, rhythmbox and vlc packages, but in a repository that can 
override base packages (so not EPEL).

So, can someone from this list and Red Hat subscription open a bug 
report using Rock's last e-mail (one I responded to)?


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Serbia, Europe

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Re: [CentOS] Frustrated. Java on Centos 6 doesn't give an error message when downloading from a Samsung Galaxy S3

On Mon, 27 May 2013 16:31:01 -0400, Scott Robbins wrote:

 As I mentioned, I've only used the file browser method (and
 things were accessible) in a more recent distribution.  
 Otherwise, I've used the manual commands.
 Sorry I can't be of more help here.

Hi Scott,
You've been a GREAT help, as have the others!
I'm back to working with the original libmtp, with VLC 
working just fine (but I'm not sure how to test rhythmbox
as I've never used it).

I'm confused how to explain the idealized setup since it 
took a few reboots and gyrations to get it to work again 
for me once I reinstalled the original Centos libmtp, 
and especially because we (apparently) have to plug the phone 
in to see the MTP/PTP setup screen, and once we do that, 
we again have to reboot, so, this sequence below is idealized 
as I went through a bunch of reboots in the process, and I 
forgot to unlock the phone a couple of times also.
With that caution as the caveat, I think the simplest 
procedure for connecting by wire on Centos 6 is the following:

0. DO THIS ONCE! Connect the Samsung Galaxy S3 Android 4.0.4 
phone by USB cable to your Centos 6 PC in order to put the
phone permanently into PTP mode (as explained earlier)
and then (I think) you MUST disconnect the phone and reboot 
the Centos PC!

1. With Centos booted, no phone connected, and the phone already 
in PTP mode, make sure the phone is unlocked! == very important step!

2. With the phone unlocked, connect it by USB cable to the Centos PC.

3. The phone will beep, and your Places menu should have 
SAMSUNG_Android_SGH-T999 and your file browser should open 
up to location gphoto2://[usb:003,003]/.

Voila!
At this point, you can copy and paste picture and screenshot 
files from your phone to your Centos PC!

I just tested that sequence, and, as long as both the phone 
is unlocked at the time of connection, and a reboot (or two) 
occur after the libmtp was put back to the original, it works 
as desired (for me).

Since a user new to this thread won't have touched their 
libmtp, they won't have to do all the reboots that I did.

Note: It seems to me there should be no need to install the 
new libmtp (since we're using PTP instead); hence vlc and 
rhythmbox should be unharmed; however, this sequence worked 
with both the old libmtp and the new libmtp; but, of course, 
neither rhythmbox nor vlc worked with the new libmtp, so, 
that's why I re-installed the old libmtp (and this won't 
work unless you reboot after messing with the libmtp - 
for reasons wholly unknown to me).

Whew! Sorry for all the confusion. Things are only simple
when they make sense. Thanks for all your kind support, 
patience, and help! 

I'm amazed at both how hard it is to figure out this
workaround ... yet - how easy the workaround is - once 
you know to both keep the phone in PTP mode and to ensure
it is alive when connected.

Note: The real solution is to get MTP to work, which is
the point of Ljubomir Ljubojevic's post earlier today.


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Re: [CentOS] Frustrated. Java on Centos 6 doesn't give an error message when downloading from a Samsung Galaxy S3

On Fri, 31 May 2013 20:50:00 +, Rock wrote:

 So, I guess the question is:
 Q: How do I install rhythmbox  vlc with the newer libmtp?

To follow up on that question, here's a summary that I *think*
is correct.

0. The real solution is to have libmtp updated by the Redhat
developer community so that MTP mode works; until then, the 
PTP mode setup is an effective workaround - if you know the 
tricks.

1. You apparently need to connect the phone once in order
to even *see* the GUI for switching from MTP mode to PTP 
mode; so after you do that, make sure you reboot the 
Centos PC with the phone disconnected from it.

2. You apparently do *not* need the updated libmtp RPM to 
use PTP mode; so your rhythmbox and vlc programs should be
unaffected by this MTP-PTP workaround

3. You apparently *must* unlock your phone before connecting
it to the Centos PC; and if you connect without unlocking, you 
may have to start all over with a Centos PC reboot (why this is 
the case is beyond me but don't fight it; just reboot and 
remember to unlock the phone before connecting it to the PC).

4. Once the phone is permanently in PTP mode, and the Centos 
PC has been rebooted without the phone being connected, you 
can *unlock* the phone, and then connect it to the Centos PC;
and the result should be your file system on the phone
being accessible on the Centos PC.

In my test just now, there was no error message whatsoever!
The workaround sounds so easy, in retrospect! :)


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Re: [CentOS] Frustrated. Java on Centos 6 doesn't give an error message when downloading from a Samsung Galaxy S3

2013-05-28 Thread Nicolas Thierry-Mieg



Rock wrote:
 On Mon, 27 May 2013 19:27:28 +0200, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:

 You should have just used two commands:
 sudo yum remove vlc

 I guess I should have done it this way?
 $ sudo yum remove vlc
 $ sudo yum remove rhythmbox

 Or would you have left rhythmbox in place?

no you were right: sudo yum remove libmtp was the correct command, yum 
removed vlc and rythmbox because they must have a dependency on libmtp. 
You could not have kept rythmbox while removing libmtp if rythmox needs 
libmtp (except using --force, which you should never use except if you 
really know what you're doing).


 and
 yum update libmtp filename
 Yum will always install/update local files and deal with missing
 dependencies.

 Are you saying I should run that yum upate of libmtp with the
 libmtp RPM in the same directory? If so, I can run that now.

no need: yum update localfile.rpm does the same thing as rpm -Uvh 
localfile.rpm, except that it installs any deps needed by 
localfile.rpm if they are in one of your configured repos. But if that 
were the case rpm -Uvh wold have complained about a missing dep and 
would have refused to install the rpm.
Another small difference is that yum stores a history of its 
transactions (and has some features associated with that), but 
installing the odd local package with rpm won't cause any problems AFAIK.

BTW rpm -Uvh and rpm -ivh do the same thing when the package is not 
already installed on your system. The difference is that -ivh won't 
remove an older version if already present (but you  can't do that with 
most packages, and rpm won't let you, since different versions of the 
same package will often conflict with one another).

To summarize, you did the right things as far as libmtp is concerned. 
Now the issue lies beyond that, probably with gvfs-photo2 as suggested 
by Farkas via Ljubomir, but I can't help you much with that. Except 
Farkas suggests also rebuilding and installing simple-mtpfs, have you 
done that?
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Re: [CentOS] Frustrated. Java on Centos 6 doesn't give an error message when downloading from a Samsung Galaxy S3

2013-05-28 Thread Rock

On Tue, 28 May 2013 09:25:57 +0200, Nicolas Thierry-Mieg wrote:

 To summarize, you did the right things as far as libmtp is concerned. 
 Now the issue lies beyond that, probably with gvfs-photo2 as suggested 
 by Farkas via Ljubomir, but I can't help you much with that. Except 
 Farkas suggests also rebuilding and installing simple-mtpfs, have you 
 done that?

I was afraid of the scope creep! :)

I have no idea how to rebuild and reinstall simple-mtpfs.

In fact, I've never even heard of simple-mtpfs, so, I'll start googling.
Note: I ran a locate, and, whatever it is, it's not on my system.

EDIT: 
Googling, I find out the definition:
SIMPLE-MTPFS (Simple Media Transfer Protocol FileSystem) is a file 
system for Linux (and other operating systems with a FUSE implementation, 
such as Mac OS X or FreeBSD) capable of operating on files on MTP devices 
attached via USB to local machine. It allows the end user to seamlessly 
interact with MTP device files.


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Re: [CentOS] Frustrated. Java on Centos 6 doesn't give an error message when downloading from a Samsung Galaxy S3

2013-05-27 Thread Rock

On Sun, 26 May 2013 01:46:34 -0400, Scott Robbins wrote:

 If you want 64 bit then 
 http://home.roadrunner.com/~computertaijutsu/libmtp-1.1.6-0.el6.x86_64.rpm  
 Note that if you hav VLC installed, this will conflict with its required
 version of libmtp.

Thanks. I made a bunch of guesses how to proceed. 
I'm sure I erred, but here's what I did.
What should I correct by way of use model?

$ uname -a
Linux machine 2.6.32-358.6.2.el6.x86_64 #1 SMP Thu May 16 20:59:36 UTC 2013 
x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
$ sudo yum install libmtp
== Package libmtp-1.0.1-2.el6.x86_64 already installed and latest version
$ sudo yum remove libmtp
== Removing:
== libmtp x86_64 1.0.1-2.el6 @anaconda-CentOS-201112091719.x86_64/6.2 695 k
== Removing for dependencies:
== rhythmbox x86_64 0.12.8-1.el6 @anaconda-CentOS-201112091719.x86_64/6.2 12 M
== vlc x86_64 1.1.13-1.el6.rf @rpmforge 60 M
== Erasing : rhythmbox-0.12.8-1.el6.x86_64 1/3
== Erasing : vlc-1.1.13-1.el6.rf.x86_64 2/3
== Erasing : libmtp-1.0.1-2.el6.x86_64 3/3

$ mkdir /tmp/test; cd /tmp/test
$ wget 
http://home.roadrunner.com/~computertaijutsu/libmtp-1.1.6-0.el6.x86_64.rpm
== Saving to: “libmtp-1.1.6-0.el6.x86_64.rpm”

I'm not sure what the next step is (either rpm -ivh or rpm -Uvh)
$ sudo rpm -ivh libmtp-1.1.6-0.el6.x86_64.rpm
== Preparing... ### [100%]
== 1:libmtp ## [100%]

I'm not sure how to check if it worked or not, so I'll just re-run this and 
compare output:
$ sudo yum install libmtp
== Package matching libmtp-1.0.1-2.el6.x86_64 already installed

Hmmm... I had expected a later version, and, at the same time, I would have 
expected the same wording. Neither occurred.
It says it's the same version; but it uses different wording to do that.
But I don't see any errors either, so I'll move to the next step.

Hmm... What is the next step?
I guess the next step is to plug in the Samsung Galaxy S3 via USB cable and see 
what happens.

Drat.
Unable to mount SAMSUNG_Android_SGH-T999
Error initializing camera: -1: Unspecified error
http://www5.picturepush.com/photo/a/13169313/640/13169313.png

$ dmesg
== usb 3-2: new high speed USB device number 3 using xhci_hcd
== usb 3-2: New USB device found, idVendor=04e8, idProduct=6860
== usb 3-2: New USB device strings: Mfr=2, Product=3, SerialNumber=4
== usb 3-2: Product: SAMSUNG_Android_SGH-T999
== usb 3-2: Manufacturer: SAMSUNG
== usb 3-2: SerialNumber:  I redacted this 
== usb 3-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
== usb 3-2: ep 0x81 - rounding interval to 32768 microframes, ep desc says 0 
microframes
== usb 3-2: ep 0x83 - rounding interval to 32768 microframes, ep desc says 0 
microframes
== usb 3-2: ep 0x2 - rounding interval to 32768 microframes, ep desc says 0 
microframes
== usb 3-2: ep 0x85 - rounding interval to 32768 microframes, ep desc says 0 
microframes
== usb 3-2: ep 0x3 - rounding interval to 32768 microframes, ep desc says 0 
microframes
== cdc_acm 3-2:1.1: This device cannot do calls on its own. It is not a modem.
== cdc_acm 3-2:1.1: ttyACM0: USB ACM device
== gvfs-gphoto2-vo[3575]: segfault at 3 ip 7f886e7ac290 sp 
7fffacd22980 error 4 in ptp2.so[7f886e78c000+4f000]

I unplug the USB cable, and plug the USB cable back in:
On the desktop, a new entry called 'disk' shows up:
Places-disk
When I click it, I see what appears to be the phone.
Clicking again (to take a screenshot) I now see a newer entry below 'disk' 
called 'SAMSUNG_Android_SGH-T999'.
http://www4.picturepush.com/photo/a/13169407/640/13169407.png

Clicking on SAMSUNG_Android_SGH-T999 in the file browser, shows what appears 
to be the phone (except that all folders show up as empty).
http://www5.picturepush.com/photo/a/13169408/640/13169408.png

It looks like the libmtp RPM worked but I'm not sure of the use model to access 
the picture data on the cellphone (or any data on the cellphone, as all 
directories show as empty when I click on them in Centos).


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Re: [CentOS] Frustrated. Java on Centos 6 doesn't give an error message when downloading from a Samsung Galaxy S3

2013-05-27 Thread Scott Robbins

On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 04:08:58PM +, Rock wrote:
 On Sun, 26 May 2013 01:46:34 -0400, Scott Robbins wrote:
 
 Thanks. I made a bunch of guesses how to proceed. 
 I'm sure I erred, but here's what I did.
 What should I correct by way of use model?
 
 
 I'm not sure what the next step is (either rpm -ivh or rpm -Uvh)
 $ sudo rpm -ivh libmtp-1.1.6-0.el6.x86_64.rpm
 == Preparing... ### [100%]
 == 1:libmtp ## [100%]

You can always use Uvh which should update. When I played with it, I first
removed the older libmpt libraries.  U is for update, but it didn't in my
case, saying a library supplied by the older version was required by vlc.

If there is nothing to be updated, Uvh will just install.  At any rate, 
from 
 
 I'm not sure how to check if it worked or not, so I'll just re-run this and 
 compare output:
 $ sudo yum install libmtp
 == Package matching libmtp-1.0.1-2.el6.x86_64 already installed

I'm not sure what happened.  As I think I said, I removed the older version
first.

 
 
 Hmm... What is the next step?
 I guess the next step is to plug in the Samsung Galaxy S3 via USB cable and 
 see what happens.
 
 Drat.
 Unable to mount SAMSUNG_Android_SGH-T999
 Error initializing camera: -1: Unspecified error
 http://www5.picturepush.com/photo/a/13169313/640/13169313.png

One point that I've found on more recent distributions is make sure the
phone is unlocked when plugging it in.
 


 I unplug the USB cable, and plug the USB cable back in:
 On the desktop, a new entry called 'disk' shows up:
 Places-disk
 When I click it, I see what appears to be the phone.
 Clicking again (to take a screenshot) I now see a newer entry below 'disk' 
 called 'SAMSUNG_Android_SGH-T999'.
 http://www4.picturepush.com/photo/a/13169407/640/13169407.png

I use a window manager with fewer features (dwm) so I didn't see any icon.
On distributions that I do use to access the phone, on one of them, Lubuntu
with LXDE, it will show up and be accessible in the file browser.  On the
others, I run the command simple-mtpfs (or variant, depending upon
distribution) to mount it.  However, I wasn't able to successfully install
any of those (simple-mtpfs, mtpfs, or jmtpfs) on CentOS.


 
 Clicking on SAMSUNG_Android_SGH-T999 in the file browser, shows what 
 appears to be the phone (except that all folders show up as empty).
 http://www5.picturepush.com/photo/a/13169408/640/13169408.png
 
 It looks like the libmtp RPM worked but I'm not sure of the use model to 
 access the picture data on the cellphone (or any data on the cellphone, as 
 all directories show as empty when I click on them in Centos).
 

Honestly, I don't know.  However, I'm no expert programmer (or packager, I
just ran rpmbuild -ba on the spec file to build it.)


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Re: [CentOS] Frustrated. Java on Centos 6 doesn't give an error message when downloading from a Samsung Galaxy S3

2013-05-27 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic

On 05/27/2013 06:22 PM, Scott Robbins wrote:
 On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 04:08:58PM +, Rock wrote:
 On Sun, 26 May 2013 01:46:34 -0400, Scott Robbins wrote:

 Thanks. I made a bunch of guesses how to proceed.
 I'm sure I erred, but here's what I did.
 What should I correct by way of use model?


 I'm not sure what the next step is (either rpm -ivh or rpm -Uvh)
 $ sudo rpm -ivh libmtp-1.1.6-0.el6.x86_64.rpm
 == Preparing... ### [100%]
 == 1:libmtp ## [100%]
 You can always use Uvh which should update. When I played with it, I first
 removed the older libmpt libraries.  U is for update, but it didn't in my
 case, saying a library supplied by the older version was required by vlc.

 If there is nothing to be updated, Uvh will just install.  At any rate,
 from
You should have just used two commands:
yum remove vlc
and
yum update libmtp filename
Yum will always install/update local files and deal with missing 
dependencies.

== gvfs-gphoto2-vo[3575]: segfault at 3 ip 7f886e7ac290 sp 
7fffacd22980 error 4 in ptp2.so[7f886e78c000+4f000]

This is where the problem was created, this segfault is most likely why 
you had empty directories.

Here is part of the answer:
On 05/24/2013 06:56 PM, Farkas Levente wrote:
 gphoto package in rhel/centos is way too old. unfortunately gnome use
 gvfs-gphoto2 libgphoto2 to handle automount both for mtp and ptp. so
 you're not able to use it what's more it's better to remove gvfs-gphoto.
 on the other hand if you rebuild: libmtp and simple-mtpfs from fedora,
 them it'll work on rhel/centos-6 too.
So you might try removing gvfs-gphoto2 and see if you get anywhere.

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Re: [CentOS] Frustrated. Java on Centos 6 doesn't give an error message when downloading from a Samsung Galaxy S3

2013-05-27 Thread Rock

On Mon, 27 May 2013 12:22:26 -0400, Scott Robbins wrote:

 You can always use Uvh which should update. 
 If there is nothing to be updated, Uvh will just install. 

Thanks. Next time I'll use Uvh.

 As I think I said, I removed the older version first.

I thought I removed the older version of libmtp when I ran:
 $ sudo yum remove libmtp

Doesn't this message indicate it removed libmtp, vlc,  rhythmbox?
== Erasing : rhythmbox-0.12.8-1.el6.x86_64 1/3
== Erasing : vlc-1.1.13-1.el6.rf.x86_64 2/3
== Erasing : libmtp-1.0.1-2.el6.x86_64 3/3

 make sure the phone is unlocked when plugging it in.
OK. Thanks. I unlocked it  tried again, but I don't see any
different things happening yet.

 it will show up and be accessible in the file browser.

Hmmm... it 'does' show up in the file browser. But all the 
directories are shown as empty. I think we're close, but I'm 
unsure of the use model and/or debug commands.


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Re: [CentOS] Frustrated. Java on Centos 6 doesn't give an error message when downloading from a Samsung Galaxy S3

2013-05-27 Thread Rock

On Mon, 27 May 2013 19:27:28 +0200, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:

 You should have just used two commands:
 sudo yum remove vlc

I guess I should have done it this way?
$ sudo yum remove vlc
$ sudo yum remove rhythmbox 

Or would you have left rhythmbox in place?

 and
 yum update libmtp filename
 Yum will always install/update local files and deal with missing 
 dependencies.

Are you saying I should run that yum upate of libmtp with the 
libmtp RPM in the same directory? If so, I can run that now.

 this segfault is most likely why you had empty directories.

Hmmm... good point. Thanks.
I don't even know what gvfs-gphoto2-vo is.
Looking for it, I find:
$ sudo updatedb; locate gvfs-gphoto2-vo
== /usr/libexec/gvfs-gphoto2-volume-monitor

Hmmm... what is that?
Googling, it's some kind of Gnome filesystem monitor.
Grepping, it's running:
$ ps auxww|grep gvfs-gphoto2-volume-monitor|grep -v grep
== user1 10465 0.1 0.0 151084 3356 ? S 11:23 0:01 
/usr/libexec/gvfs-gphoto2-volume-monitor

 Here is part of the answer:
 On 05/24/2013 06:56 PM, Farkas Levente wrote:
 gphoto package in rhel/centos is way too old. unfortunately gnome use
 gvfs-gphoto2 libgphoto2 to handle automount both for mtp and ptp. so
 you're not able to use it what's more it's better to remove gvfs-gphoto.
 on the other hand if you rebuild: libmtp and simple-mtpfs from fedora,
 them it'll work on rhel/centos-6 too.
 So you might try removing gvfs-gphoto2 and see if you get anywhere.

OK. I'll kill the process. Is that the same thing?
$ sudo kill -9 10465

Then, I'll unlock the phone  plug it in.
Hmmm when I did that, this series of dialogs came up, in sequence:
http://www1.picturepush.com/photo/a/13171084/img/13171084.png

But now it won't even open the directory. I'm sure we're close, but I'm 
not sure how to debug why it won't open up.


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Re: [CentOS] Frustrated. Java on Centos 6 doesn't give an error message when downloading from a Samsung Galaxy S3

2013-05-27 Thread Scott Robbins

On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 06:39:26PM +, Rock wrote:
 On Mon, 27 May 2013 12:22:26 -0400, Scott Robbins wrote:
 

  You can always use Uvh which should update. 
  If there is nothing to be updated, Uvh will just install. 
 
 Thanks. Next time I'll use Uvh.
 
  As I think I said, I removed the older version first.
 
 I thought I removed the older version of libmtp when I ran:
  $ sudo yum remove libmtp
 
 Doesn't this message indicate it removed libmtp, vlc,  rhythmbox?
 == Erasing : rhythmbox-0.12.8-1.el6.x86_64 1/3
 == Erasing : vlc-1.1.13-1.el6.rf.x86_64 2/3
 == Erasing : libmtp-1.0.1-2.el6.x86_64 3/3

Yes it does, sorry.  Rough day today. 

 
  make sure the phone is unlocked when plugging it in.
 OK. Thanks. I unlocked it  tried again, but I don't see any
 different things happening yet.
 
  it will show up and be accessible in the file browser.
 
 Hmmm... it 'does' show up in the file browser. But all the 
 directories are shown as empty. I think we're close, but I'm 
 unsure of the use model and/or debug commands.
 
Nor am I. :)  As I mentioned, I've only used the file browser method (and
things were accessible) in a more recent distribution.  Otherwise, I've
used the manual commands.

Sorry I can't be of more help here.

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Re: [CentOS] Frustrated. Java on Centos 6 doesn't give an error message when downloading from a Samsung Galaxy S3

2013-05-25 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic

On 05/25/2013 01:24 AM, Rock wrote:
 On Fri, 24 May 2013 12:56:43 -0700, Keith Keller wrote:

 would you ask Upstream when rpmforge was going to carry
 these packages?
 Ah, I see. Sorry for being dense.

 I understand. I'm not sure *who* handles the MTP package,
 but, what you're saying is whomever it is that feels they
 should own it, would be the ones to ask.


I just googled for mtpfs and EPEL and here is answer:


Just a note that it won't compile for EPEL 6.  The error is:

checking for MTP... configure: error: Package requirements (libmtp = 1.1.0) 
were not met:
Requested 'libmtp = 1.1.0' but version of libmtp is 1.0.1

(libmtp is provided by RHEL, so it's not so easy to upgrade)

from https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=820583.

If I try to remove libmtp from my system, I get this:

=
  Package Arch   Version 
RepositorySize
=
Removing:
  libmtp   x86_64  1.0.1-2.el6 
@anaconda-CentOS-201106060106.x86_64/6.0 695 k
Removing for dependencies:
  npapi-vlc   x86_64  2.0.0-1.el6 
@plc-rpmfusion-free-updates  166 k
  rhythmboxx86_64  0.12.8-1.el6 
@anaconda-CentOS-201106060106.x86_64/6.0  12 M
  vlc x86_64  2.0.6-1.el6 
@plc-rpmfusion-free-updates  3.6 M
  vlc-core x86_64  2.0.6-1.el6 
@plc-rpmfusion-free-updates   35 M
  vlc-extras  x86_64  2.0.6-1.el6 
@plc-rpmfusion-free-updates   87 k
  vlc-plugin-jack   x86_64  2.0.6-1.el6 
@plc-rpmfusion-free-updates   39 k

Transaction Summary
=

So best course of action could be to ask Red Hat to upgrade libmtp to 
 =1.1.0 and
add mtp packages from Fedora, and only if they refuse to ask RPMFusion 
or Repoforge
repositories to add them to their repo.


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Re: [CentOS] Frustrated. Java on Centos 6 doesn't give an error message when downloading from a Samsung Galaxy S3

2013-05-25 Thread Hendrik Strydom

On Fri, 2013-05-24 at 14:33 +, Rock wrote:
...
 c) Connecting that phone by AirDroid (works! Even for multiple files!)
 
 Slow. Cumbersome. But all that matters is that files can be transferred
 from the Samsung Galaxy SIII to the Centos 6 PC.

I use ES File Explorer on my S3 for manual single or multiple file
transfers to CentOS desktops over wireless.
The ftp targets in ES File Explorer supports sftp, which works well and
is enabled on default CentOS installs.







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Re: [CentOS] Frustrated. Java on Centos 6 doesn't give an error message when downloading from a Samsung Galaxy S3

2013-05-25 Thread Rock

On Sat, 25 May 2013 10:08:45 +0200, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:

 Requested 'libmtp = 1.1.0' but version of libmtp is 1.0.1
 (libmtp is provided by RHEL, so it's not so easy to upgrade)

I am not a coder, nor have my compiles ever gone well; so I can't
do this; but is it possible for someone who knows how to compile
to upgrade libmtp to the necessary version?

http://libmtp.sourceforge.NET


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Re: [CentOS] Frustrated. Java on Centos 6 doesn't give an error message when downloading from a Samsung Galaxy S3

2013-05-25 Thread Scott Robbins

On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 05:06:50AM +, Rock wrote:
 On Sat, 25 May 2013 10:08:45 +0200, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
 
  Requested 'libmtp = 1.1.0' but version of libmtp is 1.0.1
  (libmtp is provided by RHEL, so it's not so easy to upgrade)
 
 I am not a coder, nor have my compiles ever gone well; so I can't
 do this; but is it possible for someone who knows how to compile
 to upgrade libmtp to the necessary version?
 

If you want 64 bit then

http://home.roadrunner.com/~computertaijutsu/libmtp-1.1.6-0.el6.x86_64.rpm 

Note that if you hav VLC installed, this will conflict with its required
version of libmtp.


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Re: [CentOS] Frustrated. Java on Centos 6 doesn't give an error message when downloading from a Samsung Galaxy S3

On Thu, 23 May 2013 22:03:48 -0700, centos-CKKfVXLCbtqEK/hMebVsMw wrote:

 I had the same problem until I stumbled upon the solution:
 Airdroid

Thanks for that tip!

I just installed AirDroid on the Samsung Galaxy S3, and tested it out.

On single files, it seems to work exactly like Kies Air does, only with 
the AirDroid desktop being more intuitive than Kies Air's desktop:
 http://www4.picturepush.com/photo/a/13140997/img/13140997.png

The good news is that transferring the entire set of files was as 
simple as checking a checkbox (as was Kies Air); but, the better news
is that it actually worked (as opposed to Kies Air failing every time):
 http://www3.picturepush.com/photo/a/13141006/img/13141006.png
Note: AirDroid, by default, creates a single zip file, apparently to
get around the multiple-file restriction that fells Kies Air every time.

The bad news is that transferring select files was an exercise in
futility, simply because the standard shift key (to select blocks of 
photos) is apparently not implemented, and scrolling from file to file
would take the rest of your lifetime to get through the 300 pictures
that I have snapped on the Samsung Galaxy S3, it's that slow:
 http://www2.picturepush.com/photo/a/13140995/img/13140995.png

In summary:
a. AirDroid works, for single or multiple pictures,  is simple to use!
b. Use AirDroid for single pictures or small sets of contiguous pictures
c. Don't even attempt to download select (dispersed) photos!
d. Downloading the entire set of pictures is far easier, albeit slow.

Thanks for the AirDroid tip!


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Re: [CentOS] Frustrated. Java on Centos 6 doesn't give an error message when downloading from a Samsung Galaxy S3

On Thu, 23 May 2013 19:47:26 -0700, Keith Keller wrote:

 I'd install an scp or sftp client on your Android and use that for file
 transfer to your CentOS box, as suggested by many folks on that thread.
 There are probably a bunch of clients in the Play store.

I guess the point would be to set up the phone as an FTP server.

That might work ... but luckily, the suggestion to use AirDroid
worked nicely (albeit selecting individual pictures would take 
the rest of your life so the only 'real' choices you have with
AirDroid are to download the entire batch or a small set of 
contiguous pictures).


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Re: [CentOS] Frustrated. Java on Centos 6 doesn't give an error message when downloading from a Samsung Galaxy S3

2013-05-24 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic

On 05/24/2013 08:09 AM, Rock wrote:
 On Thu, 23 May 2013 22:03:48 -0700, centos-CKKfVXLCbtqEK/hMebVsMw wrote:

 I had the same problem until I stumbled upon the solution:
 Airdroid
 Thanks for that tip!

 I just installed AirDroid on the Samsung Galaxy S3, and tested it out.

 On single files, it seems to work exactly like Kies Air does, only with
 the AirDroid desktop being more intuitive than Kies Air's desktop:
   http://www4.picturepush.com/photo/a/13140997/img/13140997.png

 The good news is that transferring the entire set of files was as
 simple as checking a checkbox (as was Kies Air); but, the better news
 is that it actually worked (as opposed to Kies Air failing every time):
   http://www3.picturepush.com/photo/a/13141006/img/13141006.png
 Note: AirDroid, by default, creates a single zip file, apparently to
 get around the multiple-file restriction that fells Kies Air every time.

 The bad news is that transferring select files was an exercise in
 futility, simply because the standard shift key (to select blocks of
 photos) is apparently not implemented, and scrolling from file to file
 would take the rest of your lifetime to get through the 300 pictures
 that I have snapped on the Samsung Galaxy S3, it's that slow:
   http://www2.picturepush.com/photo/a/13140995/img/13140995.png

 In summary:
 a. AirDroid works, for single or multiple pictures,  is simple to use!
 b. Use AirDroid for single pictures or small sets of contiguous pictures
 c. Don't even attempt to download select (dispersed) photos!
 d. Downloading the entire set of pictures is far easier, albeit slow.

 Thanks for the AirDroid tip!


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Re: [CentOS] Frustrated. Java on Centos 6 doesn't give an error message when downloading from a Samsung Galaxy S3

2013-05-24 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic

On 05/24/2013 05:40 AM, Scott Robbins wrote:
On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 07:47:26PM -0700, Keith Keller wrote:
On 2013-05-24, Rock rocksock...@gmail.com wrote:
Unfortunately, [url=http://androidforums.com/computers/499522-looking-
linux-file-transfer-tool-android-4-0-devices.html]Google has apparently
disabled USB transfer in the Android OS 4.0[/url] and above and replaced
it with MTP file transfer.

So Windows recognizes any ICS device plugged in, and Mac does too (via
Android File Transfer); but Centos does not.
That's a bug in Android (or perhaps just your device, since on that
thread other users report ICS does support USB mass storage), not
CentOS. I understand that's not helpful to you, but it's good to be
clear.
As someone who looked into this after getting the Galaxy SIII.

It does NOT support USB mass storage. I have forgotten the logic, but this
is definitely the case.

Ah, here's one quick link explaining it. (Quote from an Android engineer
about a quarter of the page down.

http://www.androidcentral.com/ics-feature-mtp-what-it-why-use-it-and-how-set-it

On more current distributions, that is, just about everything but RHEL6 and
clones, one can install a version of mtpfs, simple-mtpfs on Fedora, for
example, jmtpfs on Arch, and get it to work.

I believe it also works with any Virtual Machine that supports USB, but as
I have an easily accessible desktop with ArchLinux, I haven't tested that.

Here is SRPMS from Fuduntu,
ftp://ftp.pbone.net/mirror/ftp.sourceforge.net/pub/sourceforge/f/fu/fuduntu/sources/mtpfs-1.1-0.3.svn20120510.fu2012.src.rpm

and here is from Fedora 17:
ftp://ftp.icm.edu.pl/vol/rzm2/linux-fedora-secondary/updates/17/SRPMS/simple-mtpfs-0.1-4.fc17.src.rpm

maybe they can be recompiled and added to some repository.

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Re: [CentOS] Frustrated. Java on Centos 6 doesn't give an error message when downloading from a Samsung Galaxy S3

On Thu, 23 May 2013 23:40:17 -0400, Scott Robbins wrote:

 On more current distributions, that is, just about everything but RHEL6 and
 clones, one can install a version of mtpfs, simple-mtpfs on Fedora, for
 example, jmtpfs on Arch, and get it to work.

Just my luck that Centos is one of those linuxes that are problematic.

Anyway, here's the summary:
a) Connecting the Samsung Galaxy S3 by USB (fails)
b) Connecting that phone by Kies Air (fails for multiple files, no error 
message!)
c) Connecting that phone by AirDroid (works! Even for multiple files!)

Slow. Cumbersome. But all that matters is that files can be transferred
from the Samsung Galaxy SIII to the Centos 6 PC.


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Re: [CentOS] Frustrated. Java on Centos 6 doesn't give an error message when downloading from a Samsung Galaxy S3

2013-05-24 Thread Craig White

MTP doesn't work all that well on Linux even when it works.

The real easy and best solution is 'Wifi File Explorer' which runs a web server 
on your phone which you can access from the desktop computer and transfer files 
 folders between them. I use Fedora for desktop system and I definitely still 
use Wifi File Explorer.

I think most people are using cloud storage with the smart phones these days 
and that makes for tepid enthusiasm for attempting to maintain any type of 
synchronization between a single desktop system and the smart phone. The cloud 
or running Wifi File Explorer on your smart phone becomes a solution that 
allows you to add other computers and devices into the equation at any time.

Craig

On May 24, 2013, at 7:33 AM, Rock wrote:

 On Thu, 23 May 2013 23:40:17 -0400, Scott Robbins wrote:
 
 On more current distributions, that is, just about everything but RHEL6 and
 clones, one can install a version of mtpfs, simple-mtpfs on Fedora, for
 example, jmtpfs on Arch, and get it to work.
 
 Just my luck that Centos is one of those linuxes that are problematic.
 
 Anyway, here's the summary:
 a) Connecting the Samsung Galaxy S3 by USB (fails)
 b) Connecting that phone by Kies Air (fails for multiple files, no error 
 message!)
 c) Connecting that phone by AirDroid (works! Even for multiple files!)
 
 Slow. Cumbersome. But all that matters is that files can be transferred
 from the Samsung Galaxy SIII to the Centos 6 PC.
 
 
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Re: [CentOS] Frustrated. Java on Centos 6 doesn't give an error message when downloading from a Samsung Galaxy S3

On Fri, 24 May 2013 08:03:52 -0700, Craig White wrote:

 I think most people are using cloud storage with the smart phones these days

I understand. 

Anyway, here's a summary for the next person with this same problem
(Note: This affects other phones but I don't know which are affected.)

Summary of the current status:
 Connecting the SG S3 by USB cable (fails for every Centos owner)
 Connecting the SG S3 by Kies Air (Java fails for multiple files, no errors!)
 Connecting the SG S3 by AirDroid (Works! Zips up multiple files, slow but OK)
...
 Connecting the SG S3 by Android FTPServer (suggested, complicated setup)
 Connecting the SG S3 by WiFi File Explorer (didn't work on my 1st test)
 Connecting the SG S3 by WiFi File Transfer (didn't work on my 1st test)
 Connecting the SG S3 by Total Commander for Android (suggested, untested)
 Connecting the SG S3 by WiFi file transfer pro (suggested, untested)
Note: When testing solutions, my general approach is to give each
suggested program a single pass - and if that fails, to then move 
on to the next solution. If no solutions work, then I revisit the 
prior attempts and implement heroics to get it to work, if needed.

Deprecated approaches which would also work to transfer pictures:
 MicroSD card (shouldn't have to buy storage just to transfer pictures)
 Dropbox or the cloud (shouldn't have to do that just to transfer data)
 Windows/Mac (shouldn't have to give up on your Centos operating system)
 Wine/Emulation/Virtual OS (shouldn't have to give up on native Centos)
 Email them to myself (shouldn't have to do that just to transfer pictures)

 Rant 
Why the Android dev team removed USB file transfer for Linux users is beyond me!
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Re: [CentOS] Frustrated. Java on Centos 6 doesn't give an error message when downloading from a Samsung Galaxy S3

2013-05-24 Thread Phelps, Matt

On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 11:12 AM, Rock rocksock...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Fri, 24 May 2013 08:03:52 -0700, Craig White wrote:

  I think most people are using cloud storage with the smart phones these
 days

 I understand.

 Anyway, here's a summary for the next person with this same problem
 (Note: This affects other phones but I don't know which are affected.)

 Summary of the current status:
  Connecting the SG S3 by USB cable (fails for every Centos owner)
  Connecting the SG S3 by Kies Air (Java fails for multiple files, no
 errors!)
  Connecting the SG S3 by AirDroid (Works! Zips up multiple files, slow but
 OK)
 ...
  Connecting the SG S3 by Android FTPServer (suggested, complicated setup)
  Connecting the SG S3 by WiFi File Explorer (didn't work on my 1st test)
  Connecting the SG S3 by WiFi File Transfer (didn't work on my 1st test)
  Connecting the SG S3 by Total Commander for Android (suggested, untested)
  Connecting the SG S3 by WiFi file transfer pro (suggested, untested)
 Note: When testing solutions, my general approach is to give each
 suggested program a single pass - and if that fails, to then move
 on to the next solution. If no solutions work, then I revisit the
 prior attempts and implement heroics to get it to work, if needed.

 Deprecated approaches which would also work to transfer pictures:
  MicroSD card (shouldn't have to buy storage just to transfer pictures)
  Dropbox or the cloud (shouldn't have to do that just to transfer data)
  Windows/Mac (shouldn't have to give up on your Centos operating system)
  Wine/Emulation/Virtual OS (shouldn't have to give up on native Centos)
  Email them to myself (shouldn't have to do that just to transfer pictures)

  Rant 
 Why the Android dev team removed USB file transfer for Linux users is
 beyond me!
  /Rant 


This is a feature of Android 4.0 and above. That's when the switch to the
MTP protocol on that end happened.

Older Android phones (2.x if I remember correctly) will still mount as a
file system when connected to USB on CentOS.
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Re: [CentOS] Frustrated. Java on Centos 6 doesn't give an error message when downloading from a Samsung Galaxy S3

On 2013-05-24, Rock rocksock...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, 23 May 2013 23:40:17 -0400, Scott Robbins wrote:

 On more current distributions, that is, just about everything but RHEL6 and
 clones, one can install a version of mtpfs, simple-mtpfs on Fedora, for
 example, jmtpfs on Arch, and get it to work.

 Just my luck that Centos is one of those linuxes that are problematic.

It's not luck--it's intentional.  RHEL deliberately follows older,
more stable versions of software, because RH tests the bejeezus out of
their releases.  By extension CentOS also follows older, more stable
versions of sofotware.  Therefore if you want bleeding edge versions of
unstable software, you likely need to do it yourself, because that
software probably isn't in CentOS.  And if you frequently want bleeding
edge versions, you probably want to put a different distro on that box,
because otherwise you'll spend lots of time fighting the distro.
(Sometimes this can be worked around by getting software from
third-party repositories, but not always.)

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Re: [CentOS] Frustrated. Java on Centos 6 doesn't give an error message when downloading from a Samsung Galaxy S3

2013-05-24 Thread Michael Mol

On 05/24/2013 11:12 AM, Rock wrote:

[snip]
  Rant  Why the Android dev team removed USB file transfer for Linux
 users is beyond me!  /Rant 

The reason is pretty straightforward...FAT sucks.

USB Mass Storage serves up a block device in a linear layout over USB.
This shows up under Linux as a raw block device. Unless you're using a
disk-level filesystem such as OCFS2, or all mounts are read-only,
there's no way to safely have multiple filesystem drivers independently
access that disk at the same time.

MTP is the workaround for that, at least on mobile devices.

FWIW, Calibre uses MTP to push books and such to Android devices
(including my S3 and my Xoom), and it manages it reliably. Whatever
library it's using could surely be placed under a FUSE filesystem.





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Re: [CentOS] Frustrated. Java on Centos 6 doesn't give an error message when downloading from a Samsung Galaxy S3

On Fri, 24 May 2013 08:21:09 -0700, Keith Keller wrote:

 It's intentional.  RHEL deliberately follows older,
 more stable versions of software,

Good point!


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Re: [CentOS] Frustrated. Java on Centos 6 doesn't give an error message when downloading from a Samsung Galaxy S3

2013-05-24 Thread Craig White


On May 24, 2013, at 8:12 AM, Rock wrote:

  Rant 
 Why the Android dev team removed USB file transfer for Linux users is beyond 
 me!
  /Rant 

obviously beyond you.

USB Storage requires the telephone to unmount the memory device from the 
telephone so the host computer could then mount it and transfer files back and 
forth. That is simply not an option for main memory but an option for expansion 
cards.

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Re: [CentOS] Frustrated. Java on Centos 6 doesn't give an error message when downloading from a Samsung Galaxy S3

On Fri, 24 May 2013 08:30:51 -0700, Craig White wrote:

 obviously beyond you.

Indeed! :)

I'm just a regular Joe user of a smartphone  Centos (which is the OS choice
of my employer who provides the laptop).

While most of you, on Centos, are experienced with compiling source code
(e.g., MPT source), I fail half the time if/when I try to run make files.

 USB Storage requires the telephone to unmount the memory device 
 from the telephone so the host computer could then mount it and 
 transfer files back and forth. That is simply not an option for 
 main memory but an option for expansion cards.

For an average user, will this problem of mounting an IceCreamSandwich
Android phone to a Centos laptop be resolved when MTP RPMs are available?

If so, when would we expect to see MTP RPMs in the standard repositories?
(i.e., how long should I expect my workaround to be in place?)


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Re: [CentOS] Frustrated. Java on Centos 6 doesn't give an error message when downloading from a Samsung Galaxy S3

On Fri, 24 May 2013 08:30:51 -0700, Craig White wrote:

 [USB] is simply not an option for main memory but an option for expansion 
 cards.

I do appreciate your explanation  apologize for my rant.

So that I better understand, does that mean if I bought a microSD card, 
and stored the photos from the smartphone onto that microSD card, that
I could then transfer those photos to the Centos laptop via a USB cable?


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Re: [CentOS] Frustrated. Java on Centos 6 doesn't give an error message when downloading from a Samsung Galaxy S3

2013-05-24 Thread Craig White


On May 24, 2013, at 8:48 AM, Rock wrote:

 On Fri, 24 May 2013 08:30:51 -0700, Craig White wrote:
 
 [USB] is simply not an option for main memory but an option for expansion 
 cards.
 
 I do appreciate your explanation  apologize for my rant.
 
 So that I better understand, does that mean if I bought a microSD card, 
 and stored the photos from the smartphone onto that microSD card, that
 I could then transfer those photos to the Centos laptop via a USB cable?

I have a Galaxy S3 but never tried but assume that it would work fine (it all 
depends of course if Samsung compiles the usbstorage module into the kernel).

What does indeed work is one of those OTG (On The Go) cable adapters. I bought 
one off Amazon for less than $2 and you can get one that is simply USB or one 
that handles micro SD cards. The Galaxy S3 recognized it right away and mounted 
automatically (I have been using various USB flash drives).

My Nexus 7 however didn't automatically recognize this OTG storage so I had to 
'root' it and use a freebie called 'Stickmount' but now I have a ton of storage 
to use locally and of course there's the cloud.

Craig


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Re: [CentOS] Frustrated. Java on Centos 6 doesn't give an error message when downloading from a Samsung Galaxy S3

On 2013-05-24, Rock rocksock...@gmail.com wrote:

 If so, when would we expect to see MTP RPMs in the standard repositories?

What do you think are the standard repositories?

If you think that they are CentOS base, then they will almost certainly
not appear at all for CentOS 6.  And if my understanding of the MTP
libraries is correct, they probably won't appear in extras, either.  So
unless someone on the team has a compelling reason to put these packages
in addons (packages which change 100% binary compatibility with
upstream) it is really unlikely that they will ever appear in an
official CentOS repo.  (98% of the time I appreciate that the CentOS
team is conservative even when adding packages to addons.  The other 2%
I remind myself of the above and look elsewhere.)

If you're asking about other yum repositories, you'd have to ask them.
(Though IIRC some of those developers hang out here every once in a
while.)

--keith



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Re: [CentOS] Frustrated. Java on Centos 6 doesn't give an error message when downloading from a Samsung Galaxy S3

2013-05-24 Thread Farkas Levente

On 05/24/2013 05:03 PM, Craig White wrote:
 MTP doesn't work all that well on Linux even when it works.
 
 The real easy and best solution is 'Wifi File Explorer' which runs a web 
 server on your phone which you can access from the desktop computer and 
 transfer files  folders between them. I use Fedora for desktop system and I 
 definitely still use Wifi File Explorer.
 
 I think most people are using cloud storage with the smart phones these days 
 and that makes for tepid enthusiasm for attempting to maintain any type of 
 synchronization between a single desktop system and the smart phone. The 
 cloud or running Wifi File Explorer on your smart phone becomes a solution 
 that allows you to add other computers and devices into the equation at any 
 time.

gphoto package in rhel/centos is way too old. unfortunately gnome use
gvfs-gphoto2 libgphoto2 to handle automount both for mtp and ptp. so
you're not able to use it what's more it's better to remove gvfs-gphoto.
on the other hand if you rebuild: libmtp and simple-mtpfs from fedora,
them it'll work on rhel/centos-6 too.


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Re: [CentOS] Frustrated. Java on Centos 6 doesn't give an error message when downloading from a Samsung Galaxy S3

On Fri, 24 May 2013 09:05:09 -0700, Keith Keller wrote:

 What do you think are the standard repositories?

From the school of hard luck, the repos I was forced to install are:
$ ls -l /etc/yum.repos.d
adobe-linux-x86_64.repo
CentOS-Base.repo
CentOS-Debuginfo.repo
CentOS-Media.repo
CentOS-Media.repo.rpmsave
CentOS-Vault.repo
...
elrepo.repo == needed for nvidia display drivers, for example
...
epel.repo == needed for recordmydesktop, for example
epel-testing.repo
...
google-chrome-64bit.repo == needed for chrome, for example
google-chrome.repo
...
linuxtech.repo == needed for DeVeDe, for example
...
mirrors-rpmforge
mirrors-rpmforge-extras
mirrors-rpmforge-testing
...
naulinux-school.repo == needed for avidemux, for example
...
nux-dextop.repo == needed for NAS, for example
...
rpmforge.repo == needed for vlc, for example
rpmfusion-nonfree-updates.repo == needed for vcdimager, for example
...
rpmfusion-nonfree-updates-testing.repo
...
torproject.repo == needed for Tor, for example

Of those, assuming the CentOS repositories are standard, I'd 
guess the other standard repos are elrepo, epel,  rpmforge.
I've learned never to use Atrpms; and I just can't figure out
yum priorities setup; so I get burned rather frequently.

Is that a decent guess as to what's a standard repo for Centos?


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Re: [CentOS] Frustrated. Java on Centos 6 doesn't give an error message when downloading from a Samsung Galaxy S3

On Fri, 24 May 2013 13:45:59 +0200, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:

 I also have FSync set-up to daily backup all important files via SFTP.

I found out the following, if it matters:

QUOTE 1:
You can use tools like gphoto or digikam to access the images, should 
be just plug the phone to the computer and start the application you 
want to use (KDE will list applications which can access the content 
like digikam and dolphin), you don't need to install anything as it's 
already there.

There seems to be an experimental packages for S3 which allows you to 
share it as a usb mass storage.
http://www.android.gs/how-to-enable-usb-mass-storage-on-samsung-galaxy-s3-i9300/

QUOTE 2:
There is nothing preventing you from downloading the latest version of 
libmtp and installing that (under /usr/local) on your Centos system.
http://libmtp.sourceforge.NET/


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Re: [CentOS] Frustrated. Java on Centos 6 doesn't give an error message when downloading from a Samsung Galaxy S3

On 2013-05-24, Rock rocksock...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, 24 May 2013 09:05:09 -0700, Keith Keller wrote:

 What do you think are the standard repositories?

 Of those, assuming the CentOS repositories are standard

Yes.

 I'd guess the other standard repos are elrepo, epel,  rpmforge.

Those are third party repositories.  Only the CentOS* repositories are
official CentOS repos.

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Re: [CentOS] Frustrated. Java on Centos 6 doesn't give an error message when downloading from a Samsung Galaxy S3

On Fri, 24 May 2013 11:59:34 -0700, Keith Keller wrote:

 Only the CentOS* repositories are official CentOS repos.

If I could, I'd stick with those official repositories.

Looking at my installation log file, it seems that I've 
only needed the non-official repositories about 30 times
in the past year, which is pretty good (although I've
also given up on a dozen or so, which weren't in any 
decent repository).

$ sudo yum --enablerepo=elrepo install kmod-nvidia
$ sudo yum --enablerepo=elrepo install nvidia-detect
$ sudo yum --enablerepo=elrepo install nvidia-x11-drv-32bit
$ sudo yum --enablerepo=elrepo-testing install kmod-nvidia
$ sudo yum --enablerepo=elrepo-testing install nvidia-x11-drv-32bit
$ sudo yum --enablerepo=epel install blender
$ sudo yum --enablerepo=epel install gkrellm
$ sudo yum --enablerepo=epel install nas 
$ sudo yum --enablerepo=epel install recordmydesktop
$ sudo yum --enablerepo=google-chrome-64bit install google-chrome-stable
$ sudo yum --enablerepo=linuxtech-backports install k3b
$ sudo yum --enablerepo=linuxtech-release install devede
$ sudo yum --enablerepo=linuxtech-release install gnome-alsamixer
$ sudo yum --enablerepo=linuxtech-release install vcdimager
$ sudo yum --enablerepo=linuxtech-testing install deluge
$ sudo yum --enablerepo=linuxtech-testing install devede 
$ sudo yum --enablerepo=naulinux-school install avidemux
$ sudo yum --enablerepo=nux-dextop install kdenlive
$ sudo yum --enablerepo=nux.noarch install openshot
$ sudo yum --enablerepo=rpmforge install azureus vuze
$ sudo yum --enablerepo=rpmforge install dvdauthor
$ sudo yum --enablerepo=rpmforge install kino
$ sudo yum --enablerepo=rpmforge install libgmime
$ sudo yum --enablerepo=rpmforge install mencoder
$ sudo yum --enablerepo=rpmforge install openvpn 
$ sudo yum --enablerepo=rpmforge install pan 
$ sudo yum --enablerepo=rpmforge install tcptraceroute 
$ sudo yum --enablerepo=rpmforge install transcode
$ sudo yum --enablerepo=rpmforge install uberkey
$ sudo yum --enablerepo=rpmforge install vlc


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Re: [CentOS] Frustrated. Java on Centos 6 doesn't give an error message when downloading from a Samsung Galaxy S3

On 2013-05-24, Rock rocksock...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, 24 May 2013 11:59:34 -0700, Keith Keller wrote:

 Only the CentOS* repositories are official CentOS repos.

 If I could, I'd stick with those official repositories.

You are still missing the point, which is that you are much more likely
to get a more accurate and official answer about a package in a
non-official repo from a list or forum dedicated to that non-official
repo.  Yes, people here can guess, but unless they have a relationship
with that repo it's just a guess (and possibly not a good one).  And
unless someone has that relationship, they certainly can't arrange for
a new package in one of these repos if that is desired.

Put another way, would you ask Upstream when rpmforge was going to carry
these packages?

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