Re: [CentOS] Nvidia Mod Update

2015-02-11 Thread Lamar Owen

On 02/09/2015 02:22 AM, Sorin Srbu wrote:

Ran into this as well. Thanks for the quick-fix howto!
As a friendly suggestion to all who run any elrepo packages, and 
especially the nvidia and fglrx packages, you really should be following 
the elrepo mailing list, where the dropping of support for some older 
chipsets was announced and discussed beginning last September, and where 
the new 346 driver (and the legacy -340xx driver) was announced to be in 
the elrepo-testing repo on January 18th.


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Re: [CentOS] Nvidia Mod Update

2015-02-11 Thread Lamar Owen

On 02/08/2015 11:14 AM, Valeri Galtsev wrote:

.. What made my decision to add
nidia to my bad hardware manufacturers list was: not long ago they stopped
releasing new binary drivers (compatible with new kernels/glibc) for some
old cards I have my department. The machines, though old, still serve as
generic workstations... This did it: nvidia now in my bad hardware
manufacturers list

ATI/AMD does the same thing with their Catalyst drivers.  Try finding a 
recent Catalyst driver for a still otherwise very useful X800.  My 
experience with nVidia is that they do tend to support their older chips 
a bit longer in some cases.


Having said that, I have found the open source radeon drivers to expose 
more features than the open source noveau drivers do.  The 
aforementioned X800 is well-supported in the open source drivers (all 
the way back to the really old Radeon 7000 series (R100) is supported).


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Re: [CentOS] Nvidia Mod Update

2015-02-08 Thread Ned Slider


On 08/02/15 05:09, S.Tindall wrote:
 On Sat, 2015-02-07 at 23:06 -0500, Mark LaPierre wrote:
 Hey all,

 On my X86-64 CentOS 6.6 machine I just ran yum update.  In the update
 was an upgrade from the 340.XX Nvidia package to the 346.XX package.
 Hrmmm?  I'm thinking this is not a good idea but, since this is just a
 test system any way, I let it run.  Sure enough I was right.  Dmesg says
 that my video is supported by the 340.XX driver, not the 346.XX driver.
  It's not happy cause it can't find a supported GPU.

 1. So, having only a command line interface, how do I tell yum to rip
 out the 346.XX package and reinstall the 340.XX package?

 2. How do I tell yum not to do such stupid stuff again?
 
 Assuming you mean that you just updated the kmod-nvidia package, then
 follow the instructions at the top of this page.
 
 http://elrepo.org/tiki/kmod-nvidia
 
 It happened to me, too. Easy fix. :-)
 
 Steve
 

Yes, just to reiterate:

yum erase kmod-nvidia
yum install kmod-nvidia-340xx
reboot

You will then be on the correct driver branch and will get the
appropriate driver updates going forwards, no changes to yum necessary.

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Re: [CentOS] Nvidia Mod Update

2015-02-08 Thread Pete Geenhuizen


On 02/08/15 06:12, Ned Slider wrote:


On 08/02/15 05:09, S.Tindall wrote:
Yes, just to reiterate:

yum erase kmod-nvidia
yum install kmod-nvidia-340xx
reboot

You will then be on the correct driver branch and will get the
appropriate driver updates going forwards, no changes to yum necessary.

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I went through all this, and now that I have kmod-nvidia-340xx 
installed, but have you executed yum update or yum list updates?
If you do then yum  will want up upgrade you to the latest and greatest 
kmod-nvidia-346xx.
So other than modifying yum to exclude the nvidia driver how do you 
prevent the update in the future?


rpm -qa | grep nvidia
nvidia-detect-346.35-1.el6.elrepo.x86_64
kmod-nvidia-340.65-1.el6.elrepo.x86_64
nvidia-x11-drv-340.65-1.el6.elrepo.x86_64

Output from yum list updates
Updated Packages
kmod-nvidia.x86_64346.35-1.el6.elrepo elrepo
nvidia-x11-drv.x86_64 346.35-1.el6.elrepo elrepo


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Re: [CentOS] Nvidia Mod Update

2015-02-08 Thread Ned Slider


On 08/02/15 12:33, Pete Geenhuizen wrote:
 
 On 02/08/15 06:12, Ned Slider wrote:

 On 08/02/15 05:09, S.Tindall wrote:
 Yes, just to reiterate:

 yum erase kmod-nvidia
 yum install kmod-nvidia-340xx
 reboot

 You will then be on the correct driver branch and will get the
 appropriate driver updates going forwards, no changes to yum necessary.

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 I went through all this, and now that I have kmod-nvidia-340xx
 installed, but have you executed yum update or yum list updates?
 If you do then yum  will want up upgrade you to the latest and greatest
 kmod-nvidia-346xx.
 So other than modifying yum to exclude the nvidia driver how do you
 prevent the update in the future?
 
 rpm -qa | grep nvidia
 nvidia-detect-346.35-1.el6.elrepo.x86_64
 kmod-nvidia-340.65-1.el6.elrepo.x86_64
 nvidia-x11-drv-340.65-1.el6.elrepo.x86_64
 
 Output from yum list updates
 Updated Packages
 kmod-nvidia.x86_64   
 346.35-1.el6.elrepo elrepo
 nvidia-x11-drv.x86_64
 346.35-1.el6.elrepo elrepo
 
 

No, you don't have the package kmod-nvidia-340xx installed. You have
kmod-nvidia VERSION 340.65. In the first example, the package NAME is
kmod-nvidia-340xx (the -340xx is part of the package name, NOT the version).

Please do as I advised:

yum erase kmod-nvidia
yum install kmod-nvidia-340xx
reboot

Because you now no longer have package kmod-nvidia installed, yum will
not try to update you to the latest version. You will stay forever on
the 340.xx branch which is the last version to support your hardware.

Hope that helps
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Re: [CentOS] Nvidia Mod Update

2015-02-08 Thread Valeri Galtsev

On Sun, February 8, 2015 9:33 am, Ned Slider wrote:


 On 08/02/15 14:24, Pete Geenhuizen wrote:

 On 02/08/15 07:45, Ned Slider wrote:

 On 08/02/15 12:33, Pete Geenhuizen wrote:
 No, you don't have the package kmod-nvidia-340xx installed. You have
 kmod-nvidia VERSION 340.65. In the first example, the package NAME is
 kmod-nvidia-340xx (the -340xx is part of the package name, NOT the
 version).

 Please do as I advised:

 yum erase kmod-nvidia
 yum install kmod-nvidia-340xx
 reboot

 Because you now no longer have package kmod-nvidia installed, yum will
 not try to update you to the latest version. You will stay forever on
 the 340.xx branch which is the last version to support your hardware.

 Hope that helps

 Oops, yup right you are, kinda missed that small but important detail.

 Thx.
 Pete


 No problem Pete.

 Now you are on the correct branch you will continue to get updates to
 that 340.xx driver as and when nvidia release them. IIRC, nvidia said
 they would continue to support the 340.xx legacy branch until the end of
 2019, so for the best part of another 5 years :-)


rant

Yes, Nvidia finally made it into my bad hardware manufacturers list not
long ago. To the contrary to majority of Linux folks I never favored
Nvidia. My preference was always ATI (not long ago bought out by AMD). ATI
in my observation has always better documented chip in openly availale
documentation. This, plus great open source team yielded in much better
open source ATI driver. Which always worked well for me for wide variety
of configurations in many of which be it nvidia card I had to use nvidia
proprietary binary driver (I often heard people saying compiling nvidia
driver for new kernel, which is incorrect. The driver is binary, you are
compiling interface for this driver for particular kernel).

This yet doesn't constitute good enough reason to add nvidia to my bad
hardware manufacturers list. I just disfavored it, and favored ATI. Even a
mess with card naming you face when you look for driver for your card on
their website isn't reason for that. Occasionally I was getting boxes with
nvidia cards, just to refresh my disliking of nvidia. In a few cases I
just plainly replaced them with ATI cards. What made my decision to add
nidia to my bad hardware manufacturers list was: not long ago they stopped
releasing new binary drivers (compatible with new kernels/glibc) for some
old cards I have my department. The machines, though old, still serve as
generic workstations... This did it: nvidia now in my bad hardware
manufacturers list

/rant

Valeri


Valeri Galtsev
Sr System Administrator
Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics
Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics
University of Chicago
Phone: 773-702-4247

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Re: [CentOS] Nvidia Mod Update

2015-02-08 Thread Pete Geenhuizen


On 02/08/15 07:45, Ned Slider wrote:


On 08/02/15 12:33, Pete Geenhuizen wrote:
No, you don't have the package kmod-nvidia-340xx installed. You have
kmod-nvidia VERSION 340.65. In the first example, the package NAME is
kmod-nvidia-340xx (the -340xx is part of the package name, NOT the version).

Please do as I advised:

yum erase kmod-nvidia
yum install kmod-nvidia-340xx
reboot

Because you now no longer have package kmod-nvidia installed, yum will
not try to update you to the latest version. You will stay forever on
the 340.xx branch which is the last version to support your hardware.

Hope that helps
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Oops, yup right you are, kinda missed that small but important detail.

Thx.
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Re: [CentOS] Nvidia Mod Update

2015-02-08 Thread Pete Geenhuizen


On 02/08/2015 10:33 AM, Ned Slider wrote:


On 08/02/15 14:24, Pete Geenhuizen wrote:
No problem Pete.

Now you are on the correct branch you will continue to get updates to
that 340.xx driver as and when nvidia release them. IIRC, nvidia said
they would continue to support the 340.xx legacy branch until the end of
2019, so for the best part of another 5 years :-)

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Thanks Ned, perhaps by 2019 I'll have scummed to Centos 7 and all it's 
idiosyncrasies and I might even have newer hardware by then.


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Re: [CentOS] Nvidia Mod Update

2015-02-08 Thread Ned Slider


On 08/02/15 14:24, Pete Geenhuizen wrote:
 
 On 02/08/15 07:45, Ned Slider wrote:

 On 08/02/15 12:33, Pete Geenhuizen wrote:
 No, you don't have the package kmod-nvidia-340xx installed. You have
 kmod-nvidia VERSION 340.65. In the first example, the package NAME is
 kmod-nvidia-340xx (the -340xx is part of the package name, NOT the
 version).

 Please do as I advised:

 yum erase kmod-nvidia
 yum install kmod-nvidia-340xx
 reboot

 Because you now no longer have package kmod-nvidia installed, yum will
 not try to update you to the latest version. You will stay forever on
 the 340.xx branch which is the last version to support your hardware.

 Hope that helps

 Oops, yup right you are, kinda missed that small but important detail.
 
 Thx.
 Pete
 

No problem Pete.

Now you are on the correct branch you will continue to get updates to
that 340.xx driver as and when nvidia release them. IIRC, nvidia said
they would continue to support the 340.xx legacy branch until the end of
2019, so for the best part of another 5 years :-)

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Re: [CentOS] Nvidia Mod Update

2015-02-08 Thread Sorin Srbu
 -Original Message-
 From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
 Behalf Of Ned Slider
 Sent: den 8 februari 2015 12:12
 To: centos@centos.org
 Subject: Re: [CentOS] Nvidia Mod Update
 
 Yes, just to reiterate:
 
 yum erase kmod-nvidia
 yum install kmod-nvidia-340xx
 reboot
 
 You will then be on the correct driver branch and will get the
 appropriate driver updates going forwards, no changes to yum necessary.

Ran into this as well. 
Thanks for the quick-fix howto!

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Re: [CentOS] Nvidia Mod Update(Solved)

2015-02-08 Thread Mark LaPierre
On 02/07/15 23:06, Mark LaPierre wrote:
 Hey all,
 
 On my X86-64 CentOS 6.6 machine I just ran yum update.  In the update
 was an upgrade from the 340.XX Nvidia package to the 346.XX package.
 Hrmmm?  I'm thinking this is not a good idea but, since this is just a
 test system any way, I let it run.  Sure enough I was right.  Dmesg says
 that my video is supported by the 340.XX driver, not the 346.XX driver.
  It's not happy cause it can't find a supported GPU.
 
 1. So, having only a command line interface, how do I tell yum to rip
 out the 346.XX package and reinstall the 340.XX package?
 
 2. How do I tell yum not to do such stupid stuff again?
 

1st.  Thank all of you for your helpful advice.   What I did was
essentially what you all suggested.

I have my 32 bit production machine that uses the same 340.XX driver.  I
opened a terminal on that machine and did:

[mlapier@mushroom ~]$ rpm -qa | grep nvid
nvidia-detect-346.35-1.el6.elrepo.i686
kmod-nvidia-304xx-304.125-1.el6.elrepo.i686
nvidia-x11-drv-304xx-304.125-1.el6.elrepo.i686
[mlapier@mushroom ~]$

That gave me the list of packages that live on that machine.

I went to /var/log/yum.log on the 64 bit machine to see what had been
installed.  I ripped it out by the roots and then installed the same 64
bit packages that live on my 32 bit machine.

yum install nvidia-detect, kmod-nvidia-304xx, nvidia-x11-drv-304xx

Now yum update finds no nvidia packages to install, and it will stay
that way.  All better

Again, thank you all for your willingness to help and for your on target
suggestions.  CentOS has the best supporters!

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[CentOS] Nvidia Mod Update

2015-02-07 Thread Mark LaPierre
Hey all,

On my X86-64 CentOS 6.6 machine I just ran yum update.  In the update
was an upgrade from the 340.XX Nvidia package to the 346.XX package.
Hrmmm?  I'm thinking this is not a good idea but, since this is just a
test system any way, I let it run.  Sure enough I was right.  Dmesg says
that my video is supported by the 340.XX driver, not the 346.XX driver.
 It's not happy cause it can't find a supported GPU.

1. So, having only a command line interface, how do I tell yum to rip
out the 346.XX package and reinstall the 340.XX package?

2. How do I tell yum not to do such stupid stuff again?

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Re: [CentOS] Nvidia Mod Update

2015-02-07 Thread S.Tindall
On Sat, 2015-02-07 at 23:06 -0500, Mark LaPierre wrote:
 Hey all,
 
 On my X86-64 CentOS 6.6 machine I just ran yum update.  In the update
 was an upgrade from the 340.XX Nvidia package to the 346.XX package.
 Hrmmm?  I'm thinking this is not a good idea but, since this is just a
 test system any way, I let it run.  Sure enough I was right.  Dmesg says
 that my video is supported by the 340.XX driver, not the 346.XX driver.
  It's not happy cause it can't find a supported GPU.
 
 1. So, having only a command line interface, how do I tell yum to rip
 out the 346.XX package and reinstall the 340.XX package?
 
 2. How do I tell yum not to do such stupid stuff again?

Assuming you mean that you just updated the kmod-nvidia package, then
follow the instructions at the top of this page.

http://elrepo.org/tiki/kmod-nvidia

It happened to me, too. Easy fix. :-)

Steve

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