Re: [ceph-users] Using Ceph as Storage for VMware

2013-05-09 Thread Leen Besselink
On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 12:12:45AM +0100, Neil Levine wrote:
> Leen,
> 
> Do you mean you get LIO working with RBD directly? Or are you just
> re-exporting a kernel mounted volume?
> 

Yes, re-exporting a kernel mounted volume on seperate gateway machines.

> Neil
> 
> On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 11:58 PM, Leen Besselink  
> wrote:
> > On Thu, May 09, 2013 at 11:51:32PM +0100, Neil Levine wrote:
> >> Jared,
> >>
> >> As Weiguo says you will need to use a gateway to present a Ceph block
> >> device (RBD) in a format VMware understands. We've contributed the
> >> relevant code to the TGT iSCSI target (see blog:
> >> http://ceph.com/dev-notes/adding-support-for-rbd-to-stgt/) and though
> >> we haven't done a massive amount of testing on it, I'd love to get
> >> some feedback on it. We will be putting more effort into it this cycle
> >> (including producing a package).
> >>
> >
> > We also have a legacy virtualization setup we are thinking of using with 
> > Ceph
> > and iSCSI. We however also ended up at LIO, because LIO supports the iSCSI
> > extensions which are needed for clustering.
> >
> > stgt doesn't yet support all the needed extensions as far as I can see.
> >
> > There seems to be exactly one person sporadically working on improving stgt
> > in this area.
> >
> >> If you have a VMware account rep, be sure to ask him to file support
> >> for Ceph as a customer request with the product teams while we
> >> continue knock on VMware's door :-)
> >>
> >> Neil
> >>
> >> On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 11:30 PM, w sun  wrote:
> >> > RBD is not supported by VMware/vSphere. You will need to build a
> >> > NFS/iSCSI/FC GW to support VMware. Here is a post someone has been trying
> >> > and you may have to contact them directly for status,
> >> >
> >> > http://ceph.com/community/ceph-over-fibre-for-vmware/
> >> >
> >> > --weiguo
> >> >
> >> > 
> >> > To: ceph-users@lists.ceph.com
> >> > From: jaredda...@shelterinsurance.com
> >> > Date: Thu, 9 May 2013 17:25:02 -0500
> >> > Subject: [ceph-users] Using Ceph as Storage for VMware
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > I am investigating using Ceph as a storage target for virtual servers in
> >> > VMware.  We have 3 servers packed with hard drives ready for the proof of
> >> > concept.  I am looking for some direction.  Is this a valid use for Ceph?
> >> > If so, has anybody accomplished this?  Are there any documents on how to 
> >> > set
> >> > this up?  Should I use RDB, NFS, etc?  Any help, would be greatly
> >> > appreciated.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Thank You,
> >> >
> >> > JD
> >> >
> >> >
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Re: [ceph-users] Using Ceph as Storage for VMware

2013-05-09 Thread Neil Levine
Leen,

Do you mean you get LIO working with RBD directly? Or are you just
re-exporting a kernel mounted volume?

Neil

On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 11:58 PM, Leen Besselink  wrote:
> On Thu, May 09, 2013 at 11:51:32PM +0100, Neil Levine wrote:
>> Jared,
>>
>> As Weiguo says you will need to use a gateway to present a Ceph block
>> device (RBD) in a format VMware understands. We've contributed the
>> relevant code to the TGT iSCSI target (see blog:
>> http://ceph.com/dev-notes/adding-support-for-rbd-to-stgt/) and though
>> we haven't done a massive amount of testing on it, I'd love to get
>> some feedback on it. We will be putting more effort into it this cycle
>> (including producing a package).
>>
>
> We also have a legacy virtualization setup we are thinking of using with Ceph
> and iSCSI. We however also ended up at LIO, because LIO supports the iSCSI
> extensions which are needed for clustering.
>
> stgt doesn't yet support all the needed extensions as far as I can see.
>
> There seems to be exactly one person sporadically working on improving stgt
> in this area.
>
>> If you have a VMware account rep, be sure to ask him to file support
>> for Ceph as a customer request with the product teams while we
>> continue knock on VMware's door :-)
>>
>> Neil
>>
>> On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 11:30 PM, w sun  wrote:
>> > RBD is not supported by VMware/vSphere. You will need to build a
>> > NFS/iSCSI/FC GW to support VMware. Here is a post someone has been trying
>> > and you may have to contact them directly for status,
>> >
>> > http://ceph.com/community/ceph-over-fibre-for-vmware/
>> >
>> > --weiguo
>> >
>> > 
>> > To: ceph-users@lists.ceph.com
>> > From: jaredda...@shelterinsurance.com
>> > Date: Thu, 9 May 2013 17:25:02 -0500
>> > Subject: [ceph-users] Using Ceph as Storage for VMware
>> >
>> >
>> > I am investigating using Ceph as a storage target for virtual servers in
>> > VMware.  We have 3 servers packed with hard drives ready for the proof of
>> > concept.  I am looking for some direction.  Is this a valid use for Ceph?
>> > If so, has anybody accomplished this?  Are there any documents on how to 
>> > set
>> > this up?  Should I use RDB, NFS, etc?  Any help, would be greatly
>> > appreciated.
>> >
>> >
>> > Thank You,
>> >
>> > JD
>> >
>> >
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Re: [ceph-users] Using Ceph as Storage for VMware

2013-05-09 Thread Leen Besselink
On Thu, May 09, 2013 at 11:51:32PM +0100, Neil Levine wrote:
> Jared,
> 
> As Weiguo says you will need to use a gateway to present a Ceph block
> device (RBD) in a format VMware understands. We've contributed the
> relevant code to the TGT iSCSI target (see blog:
> http://ceph.com/dev-notes/adding-support-for-rbd-to-stgt/) and though
> we haven't done a massive amount of testing on it, I'd love to get
> some feedback on it. We will be putting more effort into it this cycle
> (including producing a package).
> 

We also have a legacy virtualization setup we are thinking of using with Ceph
and iSCSI. We however also ended up at LIO, because LIO supports the iSCSI
extensions which are needed for clustering.

stgt doesn't yet support all the needed extensions as far as I can see.

There seems to be exactly one person sporadically working on improving stgt
in this area.

> If you have a VMware account rep, be sure to ask him to file support
> for Ceph as a customer request with the product teams while we
> continue knock on VMware's door :-)
> 
> Neil
> 
> On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 11:30 PM, w sun  wrote:
> > RBD is not supported by VMware/vSphere. You will need to build a
> > NFS/iSCSI/FC GW to support VMware. Here is a post someone has been trying
> > and you may have to contact them directly for status,
> >
> > http://ceph.com/community/ceph-over-fibre-for-vmware/
> >
> > --weiguo
> >
> > 
> > To: ceph-users@lists.ceph.com
> > From: jaredda...@shelterinsurance.com
> > Date: Thu, 9 May 2013 17:25:02 -0500
> > Subject: [ceph-users] Using Ceph as Storage for VMware
> >
> >
> > I am investigating using Ceph as a storage target for virtual servers in
> > VMware.  We have 3 servers packed with hard drives ready for the proof of
> > concept.  I am looking for some direction.  Is this a valid use for Ceph?
> > If so, has anybody accomplished this?  Are there any documents on how to set
> > this up?  Should I use RDB, NFS, etc?  Any help, would be greatly
> > appreciated.
> >
> >
> > Thank You,
> >
> > JD
> >
> >
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Re: [ceph-users] Using Ceph as Storage for VMware

2013-05-09 Thread Neil Levine
Jared,

As Weiguo says you will need to use a gateway to present a Ceph block
device (RBD) in a format VMware understands. We've contributed the
relevant code to the TGT iSCSI target (see blog:
http://ceph.com/dev-notes/adding-support-for-rbd-to-stgt/) and though
we haven't done a massive amount of testing on it, I'd love to get
some feedback on it. We will be putting more effort into it this cycle
(including producing a package).

If you have a VMware account rep, be sure to ask him to file support
for Ceph as a customer request with the product teams while we
continue knock on VMware's door :-)

Neil

On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 11:30 PM, w sun  wrote:
> RBD is not supported by VMware/vSphere. You will need to build a
> NFS/iSCSI/FC GW to support VMware. Here is a post someone has been trying
> and you may have to contact them directly for status,
>
> http://ceph.com/community/ceph-over-fibre-for-vmware/
>
> --weiguo
>
> 
> To: ceph-users@lists.ceph.com
> From: jaredda...@shelterinsurance.com
> Date: Thu, 9 May 2013 17:25:02 -0500
> Subject: [ceph-users] Using Ceph as Storage for VMware
>
>
> I am investigating using Ceph as a storage target for virtual servers in
> VMware.  We have 3 servers packed with hard drives ready for the proof of
> concept.  I am looking for some direction.  Is this a valid use for Ceph?
> If so, has anybody accomplished this?  Are there any documents on how to set
> this up?  Should I use RDB, NFS, etc?  Any help, would be greatly
> appreciated.
>
>
> Thank You,
>
> JD
>
>
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Re: [ceph-users] Using Ceph as Storage for VMware

2013-05-09 Thread w sun
RBD is not supported by VMware/vSphere. You will need to build a NFS/iSCSI/FC 
GW to support VMware. Here is a post someone has been trying and you may have 
to contact them directly for status,
http://ceph.com/community/ceph-over-fibre-for-vmware/
--weiguo

To: ceph-users@lists.ceph.com
From: jaredda...@shelterinsurance.com
Date: Thu, 9 May 2013 17:25:02 -0500
Subject: [ceph-users] Using Ceph as Storage for VMware

I am investigating using Ceph as a storage
target for virtual servers in VMware.  We have 3 servers packed with
hard drives ready for the proof of concept.  I am looking for some
direction.  Is this a valid use for Ceph?  If so, has anybody
accomplished this?  Are there any documents on how to set this up?
 Should I use RDB, NFS, etc?  Any help, would be greatly appreciated.





Thank You,



JD


 


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[ceph-users] Using Ceph as Storage for VMware

2013-05-09 Thread Jared Davis
I am investigating using Ceph as a storage target for virtual servers in 
VMware.  We have 3 servers packed with hard drives ready for the proof of 
concept.  I am looking for some direction.  Is this a valid use for Ceph? 
If so, has anybody accomplished this?  Are there any documents on how to 
set this up?  Should I use RDB, NFS, etc?  Any help, would be greatly 
appreciated.


Thank You,

JD

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