RE: CF programmer with experience building Social networking sites
Totally off topicbut Philif you're going to use an acronymuse the right one man It's not PebCak, it's PEBKAC AKA Problem Encountered Between Keyboard And Chair Better check your chair ;-) Cheers - Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP & Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com Notice: This message, including any attachments, is confidential and may contain information that is privileged or exempt from disclosure. It is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed unless expressly authorized otherwise by the sender. If you are not an authorized recipient, please notify the sender immediately and permanently destroy all copies of this message and attachments. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:3922 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
RE: CF programmer with experience building Social networking sites
PICNIC has been added to my list o geek terms ;-) Thanks Bobby! - Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP & Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com Notice: This message, including any attachments, is confidential and may contain information that is privileged or exempt from disclosure. It is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed unless expressly authorized otherwise by the sender. If you are not an authorized recipient, please notify the sender immediately and permanently destroy all copies of this message and attachments. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:3944 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
Re: Telecommute Question
Hey Andrew, Now I don't have any concrete experience, but I do see a lot of telecommuting posts here. My trick knee says that it's tough enough for US residents to find telecommuting work with US companies. So being a fellow Canuckyou may find it challenging to say the least. I would tend to think the further east you are and the further east the US company may be could help as there is simply a lot of CFers out that way in both countries (I'm west coastand their ain't many of us here). Best of luck in the job search Cheers - Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP & Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com Notice: This message, including any attachments, is confidential and may contain information that is privileged or exempt from disclosure. It is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed unless expressly authorized otherwise by the sender. If you are not an authorized recipient, please notify the sender immediately and permanently destroy all copies of this message and attachments. On Tue, 2008-08-12 at 11:49 -0400, Andrew wrote: > Hi All, > > I live in Canada and I'm considering part time telecommute work. I'm > having an issue finding information about what US companies are > required to do to hire a Canadian telecommuter. > I'm concerned that there could be a lot of extra work for a company to > hire a Canadian telecommuter, which in turn would make applying for > jobs a waste of time. > > Does anyone have links or firsthand knowledge about this? > > Thanks, > Andrew > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:3959 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
Re: Thinking of a career change.. how does one get into Technical Recruiting..
LOLthat's all I got...LOL!! - Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP & Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: br...@electricedgesystems.com web: www.electricedgesystems.com Notice: This message, including any attachments, is confidential and may contain information that is privileged or exempt from disclosure. It is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed unless expressly authorized otherwise by the sender. If you are not an authorized recipient, please notify the sender immediately and permanently destroy all copies of this message and attachments. On Thu, 2009-03-12 at 15:52 -0400, Jerry Johnson wrote: > Sell your wife, mother, and youngest child. > > Then have a heart reduction surgery (placing is in a secure storage > facility) > > Rob a whole troop of girlscouts out of their cookie money. > > Dig a 20 foot hole in a sand trap with a sand wedge. > > And tell a bar full of Yankee fans that the Red Sox are a better team. > > Now, add the above items to your resume, and you should be all set. > > > More seriously, know that recruiting is a _hard_ job, and requires a true > salesman's ability to pursue leads with dogged determination and boundless > energy. And you will need very thick skin, a golden tongue, and the ability > to sell your technical knowledge even when out on thin ice experience-wise. > > Many of my friends and colleagues that have switched from technical track to > recruiting and placement did so while pursuing a job. They gradually moved > from looking for a job to harassing their recruiters for jobs, to being > asked "can you do it better", to working for their recruiter. > > So my advice, from the cheap seats, would be to think about the recruiters > YOU liked working with, and contacting them to see if they need help. And > don't take the first 5 "no"s for an answer. > > > > > > On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 3:36 PM, Scott Stewart > wrote: > > > > > Hey all, > > > > > > > > Since there's a large number of recruiters on this list, I've been > > wondering. > > > > How does one break into technical recruiting? > > > > > > > > I've got years of experience as a ColdFusion developer, but it appears that > > the CF market in NC has dried up. So I'm entertaining the idea of moving > > into recruiting, but have no idea where to start. > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance for any replies > > > > > > > > sas > > > > > > > > -- > > Scott Stewart > > ColdFusion Developer > > 4405 Oakshyre Way > > Raleigh, NC 27616 > > (h) 919.874.6229 (c) 703.220.2835 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/message.cfm/messageid:4185 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
RE: Backlash against telecommuting..
Simple economics When the economy is doing well and skilled labour is hard to findemployers consider ALL options that may get them the quality staff they need. When the economy is doing poorly, employers can be picky and get what THEY want. It's not rocket science when you think about it ;-) Cheers - Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP & Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: br...@electricedgesystems.com web: www.electricedgesystems.com Notice: This message, including any attachments, is confidential and may contain information that is privileged or exempt from disclosure. It is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed unless expressly authorized otherwise by the sender. If you are not an authorized recipient, please notify the sender immediately and permanently destroy all copies of this message and attachments. On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 15:09 -0400, Rick wrote: > Its control They want to see you and be assured that you are working. I > have a lot of clients that have been burned and will not go down that road > again. Also they are seeing more quality in house candidates then the last > year or so. > > Rick Kleinschmidt > President > RightFitStaffing > > > Offices Orlando, Clermont > 352-243-1295 or 407-234-9847 > -Original Message- > From: Scott Stewart [mailto:sstwebwo...@bellsouth.net] > Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 3:03 PM > To: cf-jobs-talk > Subject: RE: Backlash against telecommuting.. > > > I think it runs deeper than that, it seems as though employers won't even > consider it.. > > -- > Scott Stewart > ColdFusion Developer > 4405 Oakshyre Way > Raleigh, NC 27616 > (h) 919.874.6229 (c) 703.220.2835 > > -Original Message- > From: Duane [mailto:du...@cfexperts.com] > Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 3:00 PM > To: cf-jobs-talk > Subject: Re: Backlash against telecommuting.. > > > Could be that if given the choice employeers are looking for inhouse. > > Duane > > > - Original Message - > From: "Phillip Vector" > To: "cf-jobs-talk" > Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 3:31 PM > Subject: Re: Backlash against telecommuting.. > > > > > > I've noticed that allot of employers seem to be shying away from > > telecommuting even when presented with reasons why they shouldn't. > > > > Just my personal viewpoint though. > > > > On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 11:31 AM, Scott > > Stewart wrote: > >> > >> I'm in Raleigh, NC. There's not a lot of ColdFusion work down here, so > >> I've > >> been trying to grab what I can get in the contract market. (There are > >> other > >> factors that prevent me from moving) > >> > >> Last year at this time there were a lot of telecommuting positions > >> available, they seem to have dried up. Is there a backlash forming > >> against > >> telecommuting? > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Scott Stewart > >> ColdFusion Developer > >> 4405 Oakshyre Way > >> Raleigh, NC 27616 > >> (h) 919.874.6229 (c) 703.220.2835 > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/message.cfm/messageid:4255 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
Re: Immediate openings in claims processing/data entry
No idea if it's available in 2010, but I'd be extra careful replying to any job post like that.too good to be true generally means it is ;-) On Mon, 2010-11-22 at 18:03 -0500, Terri Maruyama wrote: > I am very new to your site. I was reading threads dated back to 2006!! Is > this job available in 2010? > > What is POMIS? > > You may reach me at ya...@apbb.net. thank you. > > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/message.cfm/messageid:4389 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: ideas on additional resources to use in job search
I may be able to provide some assistance, but I need to know what you meant by this first: "If you do send me opportunities you do so on your own will. I just want to make clear on that because I would not want to offend the great people who provide this service for us." I'm sorry, but I just do not understand what you were trying to convey with that statement. Thanks On Thu, 2011-01-27 at 11:37 -0500, Michael Firth wrote: > Hi all. As it has been well-documented I am still in the market looking for > that next position. I am not broadcasting for opportunities though, but > instead looking for alternative avenues or ideas you may have to aid me in my > job search. > > I have done the job boards, craigslist, devbistro, some job boards on other > developer sites. Yet, it seems like there is other things I can try. Yes, I > am trying networking too, but to be honest I did a lot of damage with my > constant posting and for that I apologize. The networking will take some > time. > > So please shoot any ideas you may have. If you do send me opportunities you > do so on your own will. I just want to make clear on that because I would > not want to offend the great people who provide this service for us. > > Thank you in advance for any assistance provided. > > Michael > > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/message.cfm/messageid:4415 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: this conversation about mediaspa
Mike, respectfully, NOBODY has said anything about Cameron's posts earlier today (he posted to both CF-Talk and CF-Jobs-Talk). Why would you take it upon yourself to state what you just have when NOBODY has even mentioned ANYTHING about this?? Cameron's posts did not mention you or what I can only assumeyour previous employment with MediaSpa (which I have also never heard of). You are openly being hostile for no good reason.or at least coming off like you have to defend yourself before there is anything to defend against. I just don't get it?? On Tue, 2011-02-01 at 18:36 -0500, Michael Firth wrote: > To all, > > so that you all know I didn't start this one he came to me asking. perhaps > some good will come out of it though and whether if you think its > professional or not, it is only right that companies and other developers > treat each other with the same respect and try not to crucify each other. i > am as guilty as the next guy in this too, so before you go on your holy run > there Maureen calm down. > > we wonder why coldfusion is dying. the answer is simple. look in the mirror. > > Mike > > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/message.cfm/messageid:4425 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: this conversation about mediaspa
Sorry Cameronyou are 100% correct.I got the OP wrong on my comment, but the sentiment still stands... On Wed, 2011-02-02 at 12:48 -0500, Cameron Childress wrote: > On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 6:53 PM, Bryan Stevenson > wrote: > > Mike, respectfully, NOBODY has said anything about Cameron's posts > > earlier today (he posted to both CF-Talk and CF-Jobs-Talk). > > For the record, that was Christian posting about MediaSpa, not me. I > did respond to Mike's email about whether the Atlanta CFUG was having > a meeting this month or not (we are not). > > I'm not sure that "The Firthman" has ever come to one of our ACFUG > meetings, but I do very much look forward to the opportunity to meet > such a colorful personality face to face. > > -Cameron > > ... > > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/message.cfm/messageid:4437 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: RES: Fw: Atlanta area developer announcing availability for full-time or contract work
because you are subscribed to a mailing list about ColdFusion jobs... On Wed, 2012-10-03 at 10:57 +0100, Carlos Costa wrote: > hello > Why I receive your emails?? > > Cc > > -Mensagem original- > De: Andrea Skinner [mailto:askin...@aptude.com] > Enviada em: Wednesday, October 03, 2012 5:01 AM > Para: cf-jobs-talk > Assunto: RE: Fw: Atlanta area developer announcing availability for > full-time or contract work > > > Lets try to be professionals. Leave this garbage for the social hour at the > local pub and stop airing your dirty laundry.Eric Roberts > wrote: > LOL...I was thinking the same thing. Didn't he just post a few weeks ago > about not wanting to do this anymore? > > > Three Ravens Consulting > Eric Roberts > Owner/Developer > ow...@threeravensconsulting.com > tel: 630-486-5255 > fax: 630-310-8531 > http://www.threeravensconsulting.com > > > -Original Message- > From: Brian Thornton [mailto:br...@cfdeveloper.com] > Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 10:36 PM > To: cf-jobs-talk > Subject: Re: Fw: Atlanta area developer announcing availability for > full-time or contract work > > > +1 > On Oct 2, 2012 11:26 PM, "RobG" wrote: > > > > > For some reason this didn't make it to this list; re-sending. > > > > > > I've been resisting posting this for a long time, but no more. How do > > I put this gently? GO THE FUCK AWAY. You have burned every bridge > > you ever had on this list with your repeated tantrums, retirements, > > un-retirements, calling employers and other developers out, etc., whether > founded or not. > > > > > > > > Smart people figured out years ago that you don't get jobs here by > > posting your availability; you reply to jobs posted here by other > > people. I've had no shortage of work from this list, but you have to > answer OTHER postings. > > > > Anybody paying any attention on this list (and trust me, there are > > lots of > > 'em) have seen your posts, and remember you very well. Your best bet > > is to just go the hell away. Don't post here again. If you still > > want to work as a ColdFusion developer, try actually looking for jobs > > instead of waiting for them to come to you. > > > > End of rant. Cross-posting to cf-jobs-talk. Apologies to the rest of > > the list. > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Michael Firth > > To: cf-jobs > > Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2012 11:23 AM > > Subject: Atlanta area developer announcing availability for full-time > > or contract work > > > > > > I am a software developer based out of the Atlanta area and I would > > like to announce my desire to obtain either full-time or on-going > > contract worker with a dynamic company. If you are located within the > > Atlanta metro area, I can easily do it on-site. If not, then I would > > only be able to on a remote basis. I can, however, attend on-site > > meetings and/or training for a period lasting no longer than a week. > > My rates are very reasonable and I can start immediately provided all > > paperwork is signed and provided for. A resume is available upon request. > > I welcome all inquiries, however, I will only be able to respond to > > those with serious offers of work. I will also prioritize direct > > hiring companies over recruiters. I am very serious about what I do > > and sometimes can be a little too passionate about it. If I have > > wronged you in the past, I offer my apologies. If you don't like me, > > that is your opinion and perhaps I deserve it to some extent. And if > > I have spoken bad about your company I also apologize. I will not > > rehash history here, I only seek to turn over a new leaf and hope > > someone can afford me the opportunity. > > > > Enough blabber and here are some general items: (please note my resume > > also covers this in greater detail) > > > > Languages & Technologies > > > > ColdFusion (4.5, 5, MX, 8, 9) (I am still in the process of learning > > 10) C# and ASP.Net (2.0, 3.5, and 4.0) (also includes ASP.Net AJAX > > Toolkit) HTML 4 & 5 JavaScript & JQuery XML CSS ColdFusion Builder 1 & > > 2 Dreamweaver Visual Studio (2003, 2005, 2008, 2010) ColdFusion > > Administrator (see versions listed by ColdFusion above) > > > > Some Career Highlights. > > > > - The design and development of a .Net application in C# for a leading > > finance company in Smyrna, Georgia that allowed them to properly > > evaluate and enter in information for their Risk & Assessment section, > > while at the same time enhanced their SSRS capability tenfold. > > - Designed & Developed International E-Commerce site for European > > based client using ColdFusion and SQL Server (value-added tax) > > - Primary SQL Server Developer for the design & development of tables, > > stored procedures, and triggers for the state of Indiana's adult > > education program
Re: RES: RES: Fw: Atlanta area developer announcing availability for full-time or contract work
de nada On Wed, 2012-10-03 at 19:47 +0100, Carlos Costa wrote: > ok > -- Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP & Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. - makers of FACTS⢠phone: 250.480.0642 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: br...@electricedgesystems.com web: www.electricedgesystems.com and www.fisheryfacts.com Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail -CONFIDENTIALITY-- This message, including any attachments, is confidential and may contain information that is privileged or exempt from disclosure. It is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed unless expressly authorized otherwise by the sender. If you are not an authorized recipient, please notify the sender immediately and permanently destroy all copies of this message and attachments. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/message.cfm/messageid:4583 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: shots fired in the Capitol
Come on Larryyou're a fellow Canuck right - no need for the alarmism ;-) .may be due to a car chase near the Capitol*ahem* Calm everyone...calm - let's wait for facts to roll in ;-) Cheers *Bryan Stevenson*B.Comm. President & CEO Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. - makers of FACTS^(TM) phone: 250.480.0642 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: br...@electricedgesystems.com <mailto:br...@electricedgesystems.com> web: www.electricedgesystems.com <http://www.electricedgesystems.com> and www.fisheryfacts.com <http://www.fisheryfacts.com> Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail -CONFIDENTIALITY-- This message, including any attachments, is confidential and may contain information that is privileged or exempt from disclosure. It is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed unless expressly authorized otherwise by the sender. If you are not an authorized recipient, please notify the sender immediately and permanently destroy all copies of this message and attachments. On 13-10-03 11:28 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > Just saw this on the Washington Post: > > BREAKING NEWS > > Capitol locked down after shots fired > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/message.cfm/messageid:4612 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: shots fired in the Capitol
No kidding - that's why I live here ;-) Of course it's changing here too - not so dangerousbut lots of corruption It may be time to head further up island where you can still stay away from it all!! Stay safe Larry! Cheers *Bryan Stevenson*B.Comm. President & CEO Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. - makers of FACTS^(TM) phone: 250.480.0642 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: br...@electricedgesystems.com <mailto:br...@electricedgesystems.com> web: www.electricedgesystems.com <http://www.electricedgesystems.com> and www.fisheryfacts.com <http://www.fisheryfacts.com> Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail -CONFIDENTIALITY-- This message, including any attachments, is confidential and may contain information that is privileged or exempt from disclosure. It is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed unless expressly authorized otherwise by the sender. If you are not an authorized recipient, please notify the sender immediately and permanently destroy all copies of this message and attachments. On 13-10-03 11:49 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > Victoria is nothing like DC. I have no problem with going anywhere in > Victoria. DC now I would go near some places in South West DC. > > And this shooting wouldn't be the first time even this year. Some wingnut > was arrested just 3 weeks ago in front of the White HOuse with an AR-15 and > multiple ammo clips. > > > On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 2:34 PM, Bryan Stevenson < > br...@electricedgesystems.com> wrote: > >> Come on Larryyou're a fellow Canuck right - no need for the alarmism >> ;-) >> >> .may be due to a car chase near the Capitol*ahem* >> >> Calm everyone...calm - let's wait for facts to roll in ;-) >> >> Cheers >> >> *Bryan Stevenson*B.Comm. >> President & CEO >> Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. - makers of FACTS^(TM) >> phone: 250.480.0642 >> cell: 250.920.8830 >> e-mail: br...@electricedgesystems.com > br...@electricedgesystems.com> >> web: www.electricedgesystems.com <http://www.electricedgesystems.com> >> and www.fisheryfacts.com <http://www.fisheryfacts.com> >> >> >> >> Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail >> >> -CONFIDENTIALITY-- >> This message, including any attachments, is confidential and may contain >> information that is privileged or exempt from disclosure. It is intended >> only for the person to whom it is addressed unless expressly authorized >> otherwise by the sender. If you are not an authorized recipient, please >> notify the sender immediately and permanently destroy all copies of this >> message and attachments. >> On 13-10-03 11:28 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: >>> Just saw this on the Washington Post: >>> >>> BREAKING NEWS >>> >>> Capitol locked down after shots fired >>> >> >> >> > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/message.cfm/messageid:4618 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Need ColdFusion Developer that doesn't suck for 4-mo gig in Salem, Oregon
Suggestion: Rob - don't call a developer lame no matter how lame they are - makes you look like a douchebag and doesn't make people want to get involved Phillip: If you are hiding behind a fake name - stop it...makes you look like you have something to hide - if you a have something liable to say about a past contract - keep it to yourself - saying contact me off list makes you look like a disgruntled ex-contractor that wants the last word - doesn't help you a bit Now please take this childish crap elsewhere - you are both wrong Thanks! *Bryan Stevenson*B.Comm. President & CEO Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. - makers of FACTS^(TM) phone: 250.480.0642 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: br...@electricedgesystems.com <mailto:br...@electricedgesystems.com> web: www.electricedgesystems.com <http://www.electricedgesystems.com> and www.fisheryfacts.com <http://www.fisheryfacts.com> Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail -CONFIDENTIALITY-- This message, including any attachments, is confidential and may contain information that is privileged or exempt from disclosure. It is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed unless expressly authorized otherwise by the sender. If you are not an authorized recipient, please notify the sender immediately and permanently destroy all copies of this message and attachments. On 13-10-03 11:56 AM, RobG wrote: > Hi... "Phil" -- yeah I remember you. We worked together very briefly and > walked past each other in the hall pretty much daily. > > Before you bag on this job, let me point out that this isn't for the > project you were on; we have another contractor on that. And I'm just a > contractor too. > > Sure this place isn't perfect. It's State Government. But ya know, this > is one of the better teams I've worked on in the 3-4 contracts I've had > with the state. We happen to have a pretty good team right now of 3-4 > people and need somebody else who can write decent code and not just talk a > good game. > > And btw -- I've seen your code. I'll do you the favor of not making public > comments about it, just as I won't post your real name since you like to > use your alias here, as many others seem to do as well. > > All I'm trying to do is find somebody halfway decent so we can get this job > done. > > Rob > > > > > On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 11:29 AM, Phillip Vector > wrote: > >> I used to be one of the developers for this project (No, I wasn't the lame >> developer). Contact me off list if you want the lowdown on this beauty. >> >> >> On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 11:26 AM, RobG wrote: >> >>> These are the rough details: >>> >>> We just cut another lame developer; we need a decent one this time. This >>> will backfill the previous dev's contract, approximately 4 months >>> remaining. It's working for DHS on a healthcare-related application. >>> >>> I'm not sure what the pay is, but I'll admit it probably won't be great; >>> $30-40 hr W-2? Not really sure. It might be more, but I honestly don't >>> know... they won't give me those kinds of details. >>> >>> The upside: Salem is a cute little town with a very low cost of living, >>> only an hour south of Portland. >>> >>> Please reply to me privately and I can put you in touch with the guy who >>> can get you an interview. >>> >>> Rob >>> >>> >>> >> > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/message.cfm/messageid:4621 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: shots fired in the Capitol
Good to hear you are away from it! ...and yes...BC politicsgetting WAY worseI don't even recognize BC and Canada anymoregoing down fast and hard If ya ever head this waylook me up *Bryan Stevenson*B.Comm. President & CEO Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. - makers of FACTS^(TM) phone: 250.480.0642 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: br...@electricedgesystems.com <mailto:br...@electricedgesystems.com> web: www.electricedgesystems.com <http://www.electricedgesystems.com> and www.fisheryfacts.com <http://www.fisheryfacts.com> Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail -CONFIDENTIALITY-- This message, including any attachments, is confidential and may contain information that is privileged or exempt from disclosure. It is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed unless expressly authorized otherwise by the sender. If you are not an authorized recipient, please notify the sender immediately and permanently destroy all copies of this message and attachments. On 13-10-03 12:00 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > I'm nowhere near this. I'm on the western edge of the region near the > Manassas Battlefield. If I hear gunfire its usually in July with all those > Civil War re-enactors. > > As for corruption, hey isn't it BC? T > > hat said, its about time to visit the relatives on Vancouver Island again. > > > On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 2:55 PM, Bryan Stevenson < > br...@electricedgesystems.com> wrote: > >> No kidding - that's why I live here ;-) >> >> Of course it's changing here too - not so dangerousbut lots of >> corruption >> >> It may be time to head further up island where you can still stay away >> from it all!! >> >> Stay safe Larry! >> >> Cheers >> >> *Bryan Stevenson*B.Comm. >> President & CEO >> Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. - makers of FACTS^(TM) >> phone: 250.480.0642 >> cell: 250.920.8830 >> e-mail: br...@electricedgesystems.com > br...@electricedgesystems.com> >> web: www.electricedgesystems.com <http://www.electricedgesystems.com> >> and www.fisheryfacts.com <http://www.fisheryfacts.com> >> >> >> >> Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail >> >> -CONFIDENTIALITY-- >> This message, including any attachments, is confidential and may contain >> information that is privileged or exempt from disclosure. It is intended >> only for the person to whom it is addressed unless expressly authorized >> otherwise by the sender. If you are not an authorized recipient, please >> notify the sender immediately and permanently destroy all copies of this >> message and attachments. >> On 13-10-03 11:49 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: >>> Victoria is nothing like DC. I have no problem with going anywhere in >>> Victoria. DC now I would go near some places in South West DC. >>> >>> And this shooting wouldn't be the first time even this year. Some wingnut >>> was arrested just 3 weeks ago in front of the White HOuse with an AR-15 >> and >>> multiple ammo clips. >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 2:34 PM, Bryan Stevenson < >>> br...@electricedgesystems.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Come on Larryyou're a fellow Canuck right - no need for the alarmism >>>> ;-) >>>> >>>> .may be due to a car chase near the Capitol*ahem* >>>> >>>> Calm everyone...calm - let's wait for facts to roll in ;-) >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> >>>> *Bryan Stevenson*B.Comm. >>>> President & CEO >>>> Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. - makers of FACTS^(TM) >>>> phone: 250.480.0642 >>>> cell: 250.920.8830 >>>> e-mail: br...@electricedgesystems.com >>> br...@electricedgesystems.com> >>>> web: www.electricedgesystems.com <http://www.electricedgesystems.com> >>>> and www.fisheryfacts.com <http://www.fisheryfacts.com> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail >>>> >>>> -CONFIDENTIALITY-- >>>> This message, including any attachments, is confidential and may contain >>>> information that is privileged or exempt from disclosure. It is intended >>>> only for the
Re: Need ColdFusion Developer that doesn't suck for 4-mo gig in Salem, Oregon
Yep...coding examples show issuesbut you calling a developer lame in a public forum reflects on you We have all worked with less than perfect developers - what's the point of calling them names? You could just have easily said "our last developer was not qualified and we are looking for a replacement" Good luck with your methods Cheers *Bryan Stevenson*B.Comm. President & CEO Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. - makers of FACTS^(TM) phone: 250.480.0642 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: br...@electricedgesystems.com <mailto:br...@electricedgesystems.com> web: www.electricedgesystems.com <http://www.electricedgesystems.com> and www.fisheryfacts.com <http://www.fisheryfacts.com> ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/message.cfm/messageid:4624 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: cf source code bogarted
thoughts.too soon to comment - let them investigate and chose their desired spin - then let the mob have it's turn tearing apart the spin - by then we should be getting close to the truth and the impact No I'm not cynical at all - just experienced ;-) Cheers! *Bryan Stevenson*B.Comm. President & CEO Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. - makers of FACTS^(TM) phone: 250.480.0642 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: br...@electricedgesystems.com <mailto:br...@electricedgesystems.com> web: www.electricedgesystems.com <http://www.electricedgesystems.com> and www.fisheryfacts.com <http://www.fisheryfacts.com> Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail -CONFIDENTIALITY-- This message, including any attachments, is confidential and may contain information that is privileged or exempt from disclosure. It is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed unless expressly authorized otherwise by the sender. If you are not an authorized recipient, please notify the sender immediately and permanently destroy all copies of this message and attachments. On 13-10-03 02:54 PM, John Lyons wrote: > http://krebsonsecurity.com/2013/10/adobe-to-announce-source-code-customer-data-breach/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+KrebsOnSecurity+%28Krebs+on+Security%29 > > > thoughts? > > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/message.cfm/messageid:4632 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: cf source code bogarted
LOLnice! *Bryan Stevenson*B.Comm. President & CEO Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. - makers of FACTS^(TM) phone: 250.480.0642 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: br...@electricedgesystems.com <mailto:br...@electricedgesystems.com> web: www.electricedgesystems.com <http://www.electricedgesystems.com> and www.fisheryfacts.com <http://www.fisheryfacts.com> Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail -CONFIDENTIALITY-- This message, including any attachments, is confidential and may contain information that is privileged or exempt from disclosure. It is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed unless expressly authorized otherwise by the sender. If you are not an authorized recipient, please notify the sender immediately and permanently destroy all copies of this message and attachments. On 13-10-03 03:01 PM, John Lyons wrote: > Excellent time to open source, no? > > On Thursday, October 3, 2013, Justin Scott wrote: > >> "It's not a question of 'if', but 'when'." -Ancient Security Proverb >> >> >> On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 5:54 PM, John Lyons >> > >> wrote: >> >>> >>> >> http://krebsonsecurity.com/2013/10/adobe-to-announce-source-code-customer-data-breach/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+KrebsOnSecurity+%28Krebs+on+Security%29 >>> >>> thoughts? >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Sent from Gmail Mobile >>> >>> >>> >> > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/message.cfm/messageid:4634 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Verbal or Written Estimates
I always use the "Based on the requirements so far it should take x long and cost y dollars (of course this could change if new requirements are added). If you want a fixed price then a technical design document can be created for z dollars and that will be a complete blueprint of the application down to what is on every screen etc." Then again...if I'm hungry and need the work I'll be more flexible. I look at it this wayI'm a professional...I charge the rates I charge for quality workif a client is going to nickel and dime me...they can talk a long walk off a short pier. Would you haggle with your doctor?? ;-) Cheers Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP & Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. t. 250.920.8830 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Macromedia Associate Partner www.macromedia.com - Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group Founder & Director www.cfug-vancouverisland.com - Original Message - From: Jeffry Houser To: CF-Jobs-Talk Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 3:36 AM Subject: Verbal or Written Estimates A client was pushing me into a ballpark time-frame and estimate using a half-written spec (they provided, not myself). They made the request via email. Is it better to respond via email or verbally over the phone? Discuss amongst yourselves. I understand the written word can be powerful; but I'm sure it will be used against me 3 months down the line when they try to scope creep a cure for cancer into their project. They sent the request around 8 o'clock last night. Knowing I would be off site today, I'm not sure if they were using sly negotiating tactics to try to push me in a corner or if they are just busy and disorganized. ( At this point, I could go either way ) -- Jeffry Houser, Web Developer, Writer, Songwriter, Recording Engineer -- AIM: Reboog711 | Phone: 1-203-379-0773 -- My Books: Recording Music: Original Energetic Acoustic Rock: [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: Project Bidding - Projects & Bids required for www.projectbids.co.uk
So elance.com with a broader range of projects and free like elance was in the beginning?? Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP & Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. t. 250.920.8830 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Project Bids To: CF-Jobs-Talk Sent: Friday, August 06, 2004 6:39 AM Subject: Project Bidding - Projects & Bids required for www.projectbids.co.uk Hi Folks, We are in the process of launching a (very!) new UK project bidding site http://www.projectbids.co.uk. The idea is that if you have a project you'd like a range of quotes for (either from individuals or companies) you post details of the project and wait for people to place their bids for the work, all free and with no obligation to choose anyone and no need for people to phone you up - we're aiming to cover a wide range of topics so anything from creative projects to technical stuff is covered (there are general categories to accomodate most things). Anyone fancy posting new projects or even submitting a few bids? Cheers http://www.projectbids.co.uk [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: Project Bidding - Projects & Bids required for www.projectbids.co.uk
"We want to avoid people asking for 10 websites to be developed for $50!" and that's why I avoided Elance like the plagueyou just didn't stand a chancegood on ya for heading away from that kind of stuff ;-) Cheers Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP & Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. t. 250.920.8830 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: :grumble, grumble: clients...
May I welcome you to the clause "All deadlines are contingent on required materials being supplied by the client in a timely fashion" ;-) I know how obvious it may sound...but the golden rule is "clients are stupid and evil". This rule may not really be true...but for the purposes of any kind of contractboy it works well ;-) Sorry to hear about the dilemahope ya find a way through...and a Domino guru...yikes! Cheers Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP & Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com - Original Message - From: Jeffry Houser To: CF-Jobs-Talk Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 12:48 PM Subject: :grumble, grumble: clients... So... I'm dealing with a potential client who wants to hire me as a subcontractor. I think I'm one level removed by the real client. The project was supposed to start two weeks ago, and had a "Phase 1" deadline of the 30th (a week from today). With 3 weeks, there would have been no problem meeting the August 30th deadline. However, I'm still don't have the contractual paperwork returned to me (I won't start work without it). They don't have the content ready yet. I want to move the deadline out 2 weeks, but they are throwing a fit because there was no condition in the original proposal that stated the 'phase 1 delivery date' was contingent on getting content by a certain time. I find it hard to fathom that this wouldn't be obvious. I feel bad for my client, since he is stuck in the middle, but I'm pushing hard for an extension. Does anyone have this week free and know Lotus Domino (R5) really well? -- Jeffry Houser, Web Developer, Writer, Songwriter, Recording Engineer -- AIM: Reboog711 | Phone: 1-203-379-0773 -- My Books: Recording Music: Original Energetic Acoustic Rock: [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: :grumble, grumble: clients...
> Unfortunately, this client had their own contracts, so we didn't use > mine. There is only 1 contract here...ours ;-) If a client wants to have their lawyer look it over and make some changes...we are open to itbut certain items are untouchable I started in web development with no contracts...moved towards very casual contracts (trying to be the accomodating guy I am and not some big scary IT guy). I must say that the past year I've gone the route of my partners...blunt and firm"this is the way it is...for our protection and yours...and it costs this much...period". What I'm finding is client's respond very well to this...it's there in black & white...no confusion (well minimal confusion...hehe). Good luck yo ya Cheers Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP & Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: :grumble, grumble: clients...
Yep...if I have to deliver upon completion...they have to pay upon delivery ;-) It sure is tough to be a nice reasonable human being sometimes Cheers Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP & Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: Looking for CF Projects
Mike D. Just a thought...being that CF-Jobs is not exactly a high volume list Why not simply moderate the listsome one posts...goes to you...you let it through or not. I know that would take a hair more time than it takes you know to keep the list going...but as you've seennobody listens...so if you moderate it will never get out of hand. If you deny a posting the poster could simply be notified saying their post doesn't meet the reqs of the list. So a little re-coding now may keep your stress level down later ;-) BTW...a simple rule I live by"People are stupid until proven otherwise"...sure helps to lower my expectations and not be surprised when idiots make themselves known (not directed at anybody involved in this thread in case anyone feels they are being targeted). my 2 cents Cheers Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP & Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: Senior CF/StudioMX2004 Developer available
Ummm...Connie...they stopped posting to the thread 2.5 hours agoyou're the only one yelling via e-mail now ;-) Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP & Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com - Original Message - From: Connie DeCinko To: CF-Jobs-Talk Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 9:57 AM Subject: RE: Senior CF/StudioMX2004 Developer available TAKE THIS OFFLINE NOW! _ From: Louis Mezo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 7:31 AM To: CF-Jobs-Talk Subject: RE: Senior CF/StudioMX2004 Developer available A reminder. I am in the U.S. and we practice freedom of speech here. So, I'll refer to SNL and the RNC at will, thanks. You can run a search on Google if you are unclear about a definition. Seems you haven't been a member of this forum very long if you think this thread is at an all time low. Thanks, Louis Mezo LogicSynthesis Tel: 240.498.8951 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.logicsynthesis.com -Original Message- From: Stephen Moretti (cfmaster) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 9:38 AM To: CF-Jobs-Talk Subject: Re: Senior CF/StudioMX2004 Developer available Louis Mezo wrote: > I'm sorry, but the RNC in NY provided the context, not some fuzzy > amorphous > vapor. I think thats quite enough of this thread now, thank you! A reminder. This is an international mailing list some of us are not from the US, let alone New York. Both the reference to SNL and RNC are totally lost on me. All I saw was you reducing the thread to an all time childish low by calling one of my UK colleagues insulting names! Please give it a rest. That means you too Neil. ;o) _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: Senior CF/StudioMX2004 Developer available
I'm with Larryif you are a professional Connie (as eluded to in a previous post), I would think you would know how to use you mail client to help increase your productivity and lower your obviously high stress level...relax...or go beat up a pillow. Cheers Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP & Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: Google your business name lately?
Louisif you want to accuse somebody of something...do it...if not...explain this cryptic thread Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP & Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: Google your business name lately?
Still pretty vague there Louis...*yawn* post the link(s) to the big conspiracy or fade into the ether Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP & Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: Google your business name lately?
Well Louis you haven't told anyone here exactly what has been saidso tell us and then mabye we can come to a conclusion. If someone was slandering my company I'd be doing just what Jeffery saidcallin the lawyer. Telling us really doesn't help you in any way. It's like complaining to about your sore tooth the dentist didn't fix to someone at the coffeee shop ;-) Now showing us and asking our opinion may prove useful in helping you determine if this is in fact an issue at all. Perhaps you're concerned about slandering those you say are slandering you??if so you should drop the whole topic as this thread could be used by them to come after you for slandering them!! Cheers Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP & Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com - Original Message - From: Louis Mezo To: CF-Jobs-Talk Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 9:07 AM Subject: RE: Google your business name lately? Nothing vague, just fact. First I want to know if there's anyone else who's in the same boat. If it were the name of your business, Bryan, you wouldn't be so apathetic, am I right? Thanks, Louis Mezo LogicSynthesis Tel: 240.498.8951 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.logicsynthesis.com -- Son, did you crack admin at http://www.logicsynthesis.com yet? -----Original Message- From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 11:55 AM To: CF-Jobs-Talk Subject: Re: Google your business name lately? Still pretty vague there Louis...*yawn* post the link(s) to the big conspiracy or fade into the ether Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP & Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: The State of Programming in the United States?
Personally I ignore anything geared towards creating fear. I choose not to live in fear and do not trust the media...I can think for myself ;-) I have always ignored "doomsayer" trends and have always prospered when I'm supposed to be destitute! You create you're own success in life...so just beilieve you can do it and use common sense. Life's too short to play the "what if" game Cheers Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP & Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: software developers vs web-site developers?
web sites are prettysoftware is smart ;-) think developer vs. designer He's just meaning that a pretty site with a shopping cart does not constitue "software" BTW...a business system can be web-basd and NOT be a website (intranet...extranet etc.) just semantics...but I'm sure this will kick off another "I'm right and yer wrong" thread...and just when I had stopped having nightmares about whatever the hell John Dodwell thinks of MM ;-) Cheers Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP & Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2153 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: software developers vs web-site developers?
>In this day and age, how many 'websites' are web only? more sites are static that dynamic...but if you are talking commercial sites...then I'd say more are dynamic than static Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP & Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2164 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: software developers vs web-site developers?
LOL...he was being a smarta$$ Maureen...get it "object" oriented "graphical" designer...objects are graphics..haha ;-) Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP & Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com - Original Message - From: "Maureen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Jobs-Talk" Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 8:32 AM Subject: Re: software developers vs web-site developers? > Not sure what that means either. > > I've been programming for over 30 years, developing both software and > applications. I moved to web development in 1995 after breaking my > back and using the download to learn web programming, of various > sorts. These days, I'm not sure what I call my skill set, since > I can do any kind of programming required. Truth be told, however, my > preference is pure database design and programming. > > > On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:22:54 -0600, Brandon Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I am an object oriented graphical developer. >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Maureen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 8:21 PM >> To: CF-Jobs-Talk >> Subject: Re: software developers vs web-site developers? >> >> Web only, as in being built by tools specifically designed for the >> web, such as JAVA, Cold Fusion and .NET as opposed to non-web >> programming languages than the average web developer would not know? >> Millions of them. >> >> I suspect the original job posting was looking for someone whose skill >> set extended beyond web applications. >> >> On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 17:14:19 -0500, Michael Dinowitz >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > In this day and age, how many 'websites' are web only? >> > >> > > Web developers usually only do websites. Software developers are >> > > experienced in creating applications for use beyond the web, or >> > > integrating web sites with other applications. >> >> >> > > ~| Logware: a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2174 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: software developers vs web-site developers?
Amen brother! I know what I do...and that's all I care about (not what it's called)...anybody I hire has to pass a test so that I know that they know what they can doI could care less if they call themselves programmers or fluffy clouds...as long as they can do the job. Life is only as complicated as you make it for yourself ;-) Now everybody get on with theirs Cheers Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP & Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com - Original Message - From: "Brandon Wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Jobs-Talk" Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 9:49 AM Subject: RE: software developers vs web-site developers? > Yes, it was definitely a funny > > Man, I think we all need to step back and look at all this with a little > more humor and with less business acumen. I mean any IT professional's > title has some overlap with others. It is the nature of the proverbial > IT beast. It is the recruiters who have tried to place us all into a > tightly wound job description that looks acceptable to the hiring > management--making them "look" like they know what they are asking for. > when, in actuality, they know nothing about what we do or how to ram us > round professionals into square projects. > > Can I get an Amen? > > Jeez > > > -Original Message- > From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 11:00 AM > To: CF-Jobs-Talk > Subject: Re: software developers vs web-site developers? > > I still don't get it. > > At 11:42 AM 1/18/2005, you wrote: >>LOL...he was being a smarta$$ Maureen...get it "object" oriented > "graphical" >>designer...objects are graphics..haha ;-) >> >>Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. >>VP & Director of E-Commerce Development >>Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. >>phone: 250.480.0642 >>fax: 250.480.1264 >>cell: 250.920.8830 >>e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>web: www.electricedgesystems.com >>- Original Message - >>From: "Maureen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: "CF-Jobs-Talk" >>Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 8:32 AM >>Subject: Re: software developers vs web-site developers? >> >> >> > Not sure what that means either. >> > >> > I've been programming for over 30 years, developing both software > and >> > applications. I moved to web development in 1995 after breaking my >> > back and using the download to learn web programming, of various >> > sorts. These days, I'm not sure what I call my skill set, since >> > I can do any kind of programming required. Truth be told, however, > my >> > preference is pure database design and programming. >> > >> > >> > On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:22:54 -0600, Brandon Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> >> I am an object oriented graphical developer. >> >> >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> >> From: Maureen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 8:21 PM >> >> To: CF-Jobs-Talk >> >> Subject: Re: software developers vs web-site developers? >> >> >> >> Web only, as in being built by tools specifically designed for the >> >> web, such as JAVA, Cold Fusion and .NET as opposed to non-web >> >> programming languages than the average web developer would not > know? >> >> Millions of them. >> >> >> >> I suspect the original job posting was looking for someone whose > skill >> >> set extended beyond web applications. >> >> >> >> On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 17:14:19 -0500, Michael Dinowitz >> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> > In this day and age, how many 'websites' are web only? >> >> > >> >> > > Web developers usually only do websites. Software developers > are >> >> > > experienced in creating applications for use beyond the web, or >> >> > > integrating web sites with other applications. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> > > > > ~| Logware: a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2178 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Salary change when rolling permanent
Wow...where were ya before the bubble burst?? ;-) Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP & Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2275 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Salary change when rolling permanent
> Of course, I've lost just as many projects because I'm "too expensive". Boy do I hate that one...client's that doon't want their apps to work "too correctly" ;-) Cheers Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP & Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com - Original Message - /54 ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2278 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Non Disclosure Agreements
It all depends on the situationbut alot of folks (including some lawyers I'cve chatted with) say that you can generally drive a bus through the holes in them ;-) If it's one of those "pleasde sign here to sell your soul" NDa's then at least make sure there is a time limit on it...or soon you'll have signed away your rights to creative thoughts ;-) Cheers Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP & Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2330 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: 2006 Turn Around?
> Seeing as it's cf-jobs-talk, what's a "dynamic client"? :O) > > Ade Those are the clients that eat, talk, and sleep scope creep ;-) Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP & Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2818 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: usability skills
> I'm happy for you, Bobby. But what does that have to do with usabilitiy > skills? (curious) > > Judith > - Original Message - >>I slept at a Holiday Inn Express last night Judith you must not watch much TVit eludes to a Holiday Inn commercial where people aren't what they appaear to bebut they were smart enough to sleep at a Holiday Innthey must be smart enough to do whatever it is they were doing in the commercial (fixing nuclear reactor breeches and the like). Cheers Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP & Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2935 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Javascript help
Hey Mike...you may have more luck on a list about technical issues and not CF-JOBS-TALK ;-) Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP & Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:3029 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Candidate Blacklist
> Thoughts? > > ~Christian Better lawyer up if you want to start that kind of siteI can smell the defamation of character lawsuits already ;-) Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP & Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:3070 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
Re: ColdFusion sightings in D/FW Area...
Dallas and Fort Worth I betnot bad for a Canadian eh ;-) Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP & Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:3084 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
Re: Looking for CF projects
> We all are. > > My understanding is that cf-jobs is for job offers, not for > advertising services, but I'm happy to be corrected. Consider yourself corrected James ;-) It's for both sides of the coinlooking for and offering serviceseverything else lands on CF-Jobs-Talk Cheers Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP & Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:3115 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
Re: Looking for CF projects
Quite a while back someone was posting weekly (or > more?) I remember Mr. * ;-) Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP & Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:3116 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
Re: Sr. ColdFusion Software Engineer Needed - Charlotte, NC
> I think you're missing the point. A degree shows commitment. It > shows your ability to start something and follow it through to the end. > Sometimes that is what many employers are looking for. ..and by using this weak cliche arguement shows that those employers that do actually think that partying your arse off for 4 years shows anything but commitment to the shrine of beer and nachos gets them the employees they deserve!! Pick another litmus testI mean come onI'm married...surely that shows commitment ;-) Cheers Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP & Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com Notice: This message, including any attachments, is confidential and may contain information that is privileged or exempt from disclosure. It is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed unless expressly authorized otherwise by the sender. If you are not an authorized recipient, please notify the sender immediately and permanently destroy all copies of this message and attachments. ~| Enterprise web applications, build robust, secure scalable apps today - Try it now ColdFusion Today ColdFusion 8 beta - Build next generation apps Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:3425 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
Re: Sr. ColdFusion Software Engineer Needed - Charlotte, NC
> Something else that happens is that HR people who expect to get a lot of > applications for a given job will include the educational requirement just > to cut down on applicants, or as an easy means to rule applicants out > without reading more than the education section of their resume. While this > might eliminate people who would be excellent employees, it's arguably a > valid reason to include the requirement in some circumstances. > > The problem is, then other HR people see such requirements and assume they > have to do the same thing - chances are, the job in question here a) won't > have an unmanageable number of applicants and b) doesn't really require > higher education for the applicant to be successful. LOL...I bet ya can guess what I think of most HR folks ;-) Sure seems quite insane to artificially weed out qualified or possibly perfect folks for a job just because it's harder to sift through the resumes. Why don't they just weed out all left-handed applicantsor maybe those that take 3 sugars in their coffeeyeah...that makes sense??? Seems like it might be better to: a) know what skills are actually required to do the job b) ask for those SPECIFIC skills instead of casting a wide net and then limiting by education Sure glad I'm the boss around here!! Cheers Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP & Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com Notice: This message, including any attachments, is confidential and may contain information that is privileged or exempt from disclosure. It is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed unless expressly authorized otherwise by the sender. If you are not an authorized recipient, please notify the sender immediately and permanently destroy all copies of this message and attachments. ~| Download the latest ColdFusion 8 utilities including Report Builder, plug-ins for Eclipse and Dreamweaver updates. http;//www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=labs%5adobecf8%5Fbeta Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:3430 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
Re: Sr. ColdFusion Software Engineer Needed - Charlotte, NC
> If you want to go through life only able to discuss what you saw during > NASCAR on tv yesterday, and what you know in computing, then yes, you don't > need a degree. But I hope your life could be fuller than that. > > BA '65 Alife has now been revealedif you didn't go to school you couldn't possibly know anything beyond fast cars and TV trivia. Are flipping kidding me!!! I have a B. Comm and I can tell you I sure have learned far more outside the classroom than I ever did in it. Experience matters....and the broader the better. Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP & Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com Notice: This message, including any attachments, is confidential and may contain information that is privileged or exempt from disclosure. It is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed unless expressly authorized otherwise by the sender. If you are not an authorized recipient, please notify the sender immediately and permanently destroy all copies of this message and attachments. ~| Enterprise web applications, build robust, secure scalable apps today - Try it now ColdFusion Today ColdFusion 8 beta - Build next generation apps Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:3432 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
Re: Sr. ColdFusion Software Engineer Needed - Charlotte, NC
> In today's environment, someone who went through college in 4 years > would strike me as extremely committed and driven. Most people I went > to school with were in for longer than that, even though the degree was > officially a 4 year degree. > > That said, I don't think the degree argument is weak, but it I'll > agree with cliche. Not to try and heat things up, but is this perhaps a difference in philosophy between the US and Canada? I grew up knewing I was going to University (no not some silver spoon in mouth rich kid.just the way it was). So to say I made a decision and commitment and then followed through is a load of BS to me. I went because I always knew I would...plain and simple. Now given kids todayit would amaze me if they could focus on anything for more than 15 secondsso perhaps your view is becoming more true over time. I will however continue to see someone that did something major (and non-standard) other than getting a degree as someone who sees a goal and goes for it. Going to school for a degree just means jumping through hoops and paying way too much for it to me. There are lots of folks that come out the other end without having really learned anythingbut that's the crappy system for letting them IMHO Cheers Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP & Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com Notice: This message, including any attachments, is confidential and may contain information that is privileged or exempt from disclosure. It is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed unless expressly authorized otherwise by the sender. If you are not an authorized recipient, please notify the sender immediately and permanently destroy all copies of this message and attachments. ~| ColdFusion is delivering applications solutions at at top companies around the world in government. Find out how and where now http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/showcase/index.cfm?event=finder&productID=1522&loc=en_us Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:3433 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
Re: Sr. ColdFusion Software Engineer Needed - Charlotte, NC
> And lest any argumentational stone be unturned, I'll point out that you can > still be well-educated and informed without a post-secondary degree, or even > a high school diploma - in the Internet age it's all about the person > and one's desire and ability to learn, not necessarily time spent in a > classroom or the letters after one's name. Bang on Steve!! It's also important to know that people learn differently. I for one would rather slit my wrists than sit through another lecture. I have to want/need to learn the subject...and then I will find the info I need. Cheers Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP & Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com Notice: This message, including any attachments, is confidential and may contain information that is privileged or exempt from disclosure. It is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed unless expressly authorized otherwise by the sender. If you are not an authorized recipient, please notify the sender immediately and permanently destroy all copies of this message and attachments. ~| Get involved in the latest ColdFusion discussions, product development sharing, and articles on the Adobe Labs wiki. http://labs/adobe.com/wiki/index.php/ColdFusion_8 Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:3434 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
Re: Sr. ColdFusion Software Engineer Needed - Charlotte, NC
> I spaced. > Going to college w/o a focus seems like a waste of time / energy / > money. I wouldn't recommend it. But, if you have agood idea of why > you're going, go for it. Yepand it's not like I didin't pick a focus (business), but even that I knew before junior high. I wentI had a focus, but it was NOT a goal of mine to go. It was simply what most people in my city (and group of friends) knew would happen. Pretty much the same as going to public school, but we had to pay for it ;-) For me it was a complete waste of time and money. Heck it ended up taking 9 years to complete a 4 year degree because I started a business part way through. Believe it or not, that caused all kinds of trouble for a BUSINESS student!! Another reason I don't think highly of post-secondary institutions ;-) As I said to someone off list Education is powerexperience ins the control Any potential employer that doesn't see that isn't doing a very good job and will be stuck in a never ending cycle of bad hires or will spend far too much time training them so they have some kind of experience. Cheers Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP & Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com Notice: This message, including any attachments, is confidential and may contain information that is privileged or exempt from disclosure. It is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed unless expressly authorized otherwise by the sender. If you are not an authorized recipient, please notify the sender immediately and permanently destroy all copies of this message and attachments. ~| ColdFusion 8 - Build next generation apps today, with easy PDF and Ajax features - download now http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/coldfusion/cf8_beta_whatsnew_052907.pdf Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:3437 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
Re: Seeking Programmer to Develop Social Networking Tools for our website
Just a thoughtdon't shoot the messenger ;-) Being that most if not all of what you're asking for currently exists would it perhaps be more efficient to use exisitng tools to setup groups for your ex-pats (i.e. setup a network on Linked In just for them) and they can use those instead of going through considerable expense to have custom programming done? Of course you may be wanting to charge your members a big new fee for all the shiny new features ;-) Anywaysjust a thoughtseemed like re-inventing the wheel when it may not be neccessary Cheers Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP & Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com Notice: This message, including any attachments, is confidential and may contain information that is privileged or exempt from disclosure. It is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed unless expressly authorized otherwise by the sender. If you are not an authorized recipient, please notify the sender immediately and permanently destroy all copies of this message and attachments. ~| ColdFusion 8 - Build next generation apps today, with easy PDF and Ajax features - download now http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/coldfusion/cf8_beta_whatsnew_052907.pdf Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:3450 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
Re: RentaCoach.com CF programmer/designer Position!!!
Adrianwhy don't you reply to Judith personally instead of the list yet again?? Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP & Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com Notice: This message, including any attachments, is confidential and may contain information that is privileged or exempt from disclosure. It is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed unless expressly authorized otherwise by the sender. If you are not an authorized recipient, please notify the sender immediately and permanently destroy all copies of this message and attachments. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:3531 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
Re: Coldfusion web developer group in china may help you
RobG wrote: > I second that. > > I lost a job due to a company outsourcing my position to China. It did > eventually come back and bite them in the butt, but still... > > Rob > Oh I see...so that must mean that all Chinese developers are only out to take your job and incompetent as well...silly me for thinking otherwise!! Welcome to 2008 Rob. Be mad with the company that fired younot Chinait's just capitalism at work. Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP & Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com Notice: This message, including any attachments, is confidential and may contain information that is privileged or exempt from disclosure. It is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed unless expressly authorized otherwise by the sender. If you are not an authorized recipient, please notify the sender immediately and permanently destroy all copies of this message and attachments. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:3553 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
Re: Dead Beat Clients.
I will simply note 3 things: 1) I would never run such a list due to liability 2) Since 1995 I've only had 1 dead beat client.so perhaps it's not just the clients?? 3) Why are you hiding behind a temp Yahoo account and not giving your name? Surely this means you're ever bit as scared of liability as everyone says you should be. I feel for anyone that gets a raw deal from a client, so everyone should protect themselves. Paying upfront before code is released is great way to avoid these issues. Cheers - Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP & Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com Notice: This message, including any attachments, is confidential and may contain information that is privileged or exempt from disclosure. It is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed unless expressly authorized otherwise by the sender. If you are not an authorized recipient, please notify the sender immediately and permanently destroy all copies of this message and attachments. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:3626 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11