Re: DEVELOPER NEEDED: Part-Time Project Work; 100% Telecommute Opportunity

[John Wilker]

I'm not certain snobbish is the right word, nor am I certain flame is
either.

I think the post brought up valid points to be discussed. If some one were
not hired because of their views towards a post, I'd be really ashamed of
those not doing the hiring. Next will people not get hired because they post
on a forum for japanese car owners saying they think german engineering is
over rated? (not me in this example :D )

Christian got his resumes, and I hope he finds his developer. I can't speak
for everyone who's posted, but I think the conversation was worth it. I
learned a lot.

my .02

J

On 8/7/06, Jeffry Houser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   I'm still unsure why the original post was considered 'snobbish'.
>
>   That said, I wonder how potential future employers will react to those
> who post flames of job posts on this list (or the other).
>
> --
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Vice President Software Development/Writer
Red Omega Solutions, Inc.
www.johnwilker.com / www.red-omega.com

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Re: DEVELOPER NEEDED: Part-Time Project Work; 100% Telecommute Opportunity

[John Wilker]

I'm glad you found the developers you're looking, in the end that's the
point. Discussion is important, and it sounds like everybody got something
out of it. What more can anyone ask for.

Good luck.

J


On 8/7/06, Accessible Computing, Inc. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hello All:
>
> Thank you for the lively discussion about our job posting today!
>
> To all those who childishly flamed our post on the incorrect list, we
> salute
> you!  Way to waste bandwidth!  We're so impressed with your skills that we
> politely request that you NEVER apply for a position with our company.
> Thanks.
>
> To all those who clearly understood the points we were trying to get
> across,
> and the importance of those points, we humbly bow to you.  We commend you
> for trying to help out your fellow man, however futile it may be.
>
> The bottom line is we received several high-quality candidates from some
> of
> the biggest names in the ColdFusion community.  All were well-qualified
> and
> understood the importance of the high standards we hold them to.  We were
> very pleased with the results from the CF-Talk list.  (Thanks, Michael!)
>
> Thanks Again!
>
> ~Christian
>
> President - Accessible Computing
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 2:47 PM
> To: CF-Jobs-Talk
> Subject: Re: Fwd: DEVELOPER NEEDED: Part-Time Project Work; 100%
> Telecommute
> Opportunity
>
>   I think that is a fantastic response from the companies perspective.
>
>   The initial post didn't seem snobby to me, but I was unclear if they
> were
> looking for a website designer or a website programmer.  I don't know of
> anyone who excels at both.
>   I don't use CSS to build web sites; I try to use designers to build
> websites, wherever possible.
>
>
> At 02:20 PM 8/7/2006, John Wilker wrote:
> >Guess HOF lists can't be second on the TO line. Thought the list would
> like
> >the email I got.
> >
> >J
> >
> >-- Forwarded message --
> >From: John Wilker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Date: Aug 7, 2006 12:04 PM
> >Subject: Re: DEVELOPER NEEDED: Part-Time Project Work; 100% Telecommute
> >Opportunity
> >To: "Christian N. Abad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> >CF-Jobs-Talk@houseoffusion.com
> >
> >nice.
> >
> >Christian, I don't think that's something you'll have to worry about.
> >
> >
> >On 8/7/06, Christian N. Abad < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks for the feedback, John!
> > >
> > > Please don't ever apply for a position with my company.
> > >
> > > Have a wonderful day!
> > >
> > > ~Christian N. Abad
> > >
> > > President - Accessible Computing
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: John Wilker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
> > > Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 1:29 PM
> > > To: CF-Jobs
> > > Subject: Re: DEVELOPER NEEDED: Part-Time Project Work; 100%
> Telecommute
> > > Opportunity
> > >
> > > We should probably move this to jobs-talk before admins get pissy :)
> > >
> > > Brian has a point, but does asking for every skill under the sun help?
> > > Then
> > > you end up just looking like you don't know what you want, so you end
> up
> > > getting resumes that figure, "If you don't know, maybe my skillset is
> ok"
> > >
> > > As the for tables thing. I went to the site expecting zen garden esque
> > > CSS.
> > > that statement was pure sillyness, good luck in your search,
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > > On 8/7/06, Brian Peddle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I can see where they are coming from though.  I have been sourcing
> > > > candidates for a few positions and it gets old sifting through
> resumes
> > > > where
> > > > the applicants barely have any of the skills you are looking for and
> in
> > > > some
> > > > cases none of the skills.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Ray Meade [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 12:51 PM
> > > > To: CF-Jobs
> > > > Subject: Re: DEVELOPER NEEDED: Part-Time Project Work; 100%
> Telecommute
> > > > Opportunity
> > > >
> > > > Even if I were qualified

Fwd: DEVELOPER NEEDED: Part-Time Project Work; 100% Telecommute Opportunity

[John Wilker]

Guess HOF lists can't be second on the TO line. Thought the list would like
the email I got.

J

-- Forwarded message --
From: John Wilker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Aug 7, 2006 12:04 PM
Subject: Re: DEVELOPER NEEDED: Part-Time Project Work; 100% Telecommute
Opportunity
To: "Christian N. Abad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
CF-Jobs-Talk@houseoffusion.com

nice.

Christian, I don't think that's something you'll have to worry about.


On 8/7/06, Christian N. Abad < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the feedback, John!
>
> Please don't ever apply for a position with my company.
>
> Have a wonderful day!
>
> ~Christian N. Abad
>
> President - Accessible Computing
>
> -Original Message-
> From: John Wilker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
> Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 1:29 PM
> To: CF-Jobs
> Subject: Re: DEVELOPER NEEDED: Part-Time Project Work; 100% Telecommute
> Opportunity
>
> We should probably move this to jobs-talk before admins get pissy :)
>
> Brian has a point, but does asking for every skill under the sun help?
> Then
> you end up just looking like you don't know what you want, so you end up
> getting resumes that figure, "If you don't know, maybe my skillset is ok"
>
> As the for tables thing. I went to the site expecting zen garden esque
> CSS.
> that statement was pure sillyness, good luck in your search,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> On 8/7/06, Brian Peddle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > I can see where they are coming from though.  I have been sourcing
> > candidates for a few positions and it gets old sifting through resumes
> > where
> > the applicants barely have any of the skills you are looking for and in
> > some
> > cases none of the skills.
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Ray Meade [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 12:51 PM
> > To: CF-Jobs
> > Subject: Re: DEVELOPER NEEDED: Part-Time Project Work; 100% Telecommute
> > Opportunity
> >
> > Even if I were qualified for the position I wouldn't waste "my" time
> with
> > a
> > company with such a snobby, patronizing, better than everyone else
> > attitude.
> > And with all the skills and experience you're demanding, you're probably
>
> > not
> > paying even close to what the job is worth, companies like you never do.
> >
> >
> > >Accessible Computing, Inc., a leader in web accessibility and
> usability,
> > is
> > >seeking a ColdFusion developer for part time telecommuting work.  We
> are
> > >looking to form a long-term relationship with the right candidate.
> > >
> > >The ideal candidate is an experienced ColdFusion developer who can
> > hand-code
> > >XHTML and CSS without using a WYSIWYG editor.  (If you use tables to
> > design
> > >websites, you need not apply.)
> > >
> > >Requirements:
> > >* ColdFusion MX 7+
> > >* Model Glue
> > >* Reactor
> > >* ColdSpring
> > >* Object-Oriented Development
> > >* MySQL or SQL Server 2000 / 2005
> > >* XHTML
> > >* CSS
> > >* JavaScript
> > >* Accessibility
> > >* WCAG - (Web Content Accessibility Guidelines)
> > >* Section 508 Standards
> > >* Excellent Verbal and Written Communication Skills
> > >* Ability to Work Unsupervised from Your Home Office (100% Telecommute)
> > >
> > >Nice-To-Haves:
> > >* XML
> > >* XSL
> > >* Subversion
> > >* Trac
> > >
> > >Compensation:
> > >* Depending on Experience
> > >
> > >Miscellaneous:
> > >* Portfolio of Relevant Work Required
> > >* References Required
> > >* No Sponsors
> > >* No Agencies
> > >
> > >If interested, please submit a cover letter, resume, portfolio and
> > >compensation requirements to jobs [at] accessiblecomputing.com.
> > >
> > >NOTE: If you do not meet ALL of the above requirements, please do not
> > >respond to this job posting.  (Seriously, don't waste our time!)
> > >
> > >Thanks!
> > >
> > >~Christian N. Abad
> > >President, Accessible Computing, Inc.
> > >
> > >http://www.accessiblecomputing.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: Independent Consultants

[John Wilker]

I can't recall the namse now, but I know of at least two places that do the
exact same thing for a fee of course.

When my wife and I incorporated, our first step was find an account to
handle that stuff.

Good luck in your venture.

J

On 6/9/06, Jeffry Houser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> At 01:35 PM 6/9/2006, Michael Perlstein wrote:
> >This is a good question Jeff and one I run into often having involvement
> >in the IT hiring industry.  There seems to be a little misconception with
> >respects to terms like, "Consultant, Independent Contractor and
> Employee."
>
>I have never heard the distinction described in such a manner.  Many
> people, as you say, use "consultant" and "contractor" as synonyms; so the
> confusion does not surprise me.  I was unaware there was an official
> distinction.
>Where do "1099" workers fit into the picture?
>
>
> >"Independent Contractor" as many of you know actually means Corp to Corp,
> >where you do your own taxes, don't sign a W-2 and don't expect to get
> >benefits from the company that pays you.  It also means you only get paid
> >AFTER your client gets paid if your are subbing through them.
>
>
>   That is not always the case, although I have seen such clauses
> before.  When I outsource, I never put that restriction on my
> contractors.  I have worked with many companies who outsource to me and
> never put that restriction on me.
>
>   A smart independent contractor will [try to] negotiate payment terms
> beyond "you get paid after we get paid."  Most (not all) companies I've
> worked with in such regards are willing to say something like "we get paid
> in 30 days, so we can pay you in 45 days."  Others are willing to offer up
> an advance payment.  I believe either one could constitute a valid middle
> ground.
>
>
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Re: Onsite vs. Offsite

[John Wilker]

Beats me.

I prefer offsite myself too. I try to limit my on-site-ness as much as
possible. I'm much more productive when I work from home, and can put in
more time.

J

On 3/29/06, Christian N. Abad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hello All:
>
> I'm curious as to why so many companies demand (note the use of the word
> demand versus require) that CF developers work onsite.  I consulted for
> several years and only accepted opportunities that allowed me to work
> remotely.  I now run my entire company from the comfort of my home office.
> (Yes, all of my resources work remotely - an arrangement we all find
> beneficial and extremely rewarding.)
>
> So why, then, do many companies demand (there's that word again) that CF
> resources work onsite for project work?  I mean let's get real; do you
> really expect a resource to relocate to some undesirable location to work
> onsite for a company that views them as an expendable resource on a
> project
> that lasts only a few months?  It seems you could attract higher caliber
> developers if you weren't so rigid in the work arrangement.  After all,
> telecommuting is not new by any stroke of the imagination...
>
> Disclaimer:  I understand there are exceptions for work arrangements that
> require security clearance, like DOD and Government opportunities, that's
> now what I'm talking about here...
>
> Thoughts?
>
> ~Christian N. Abad
> President, Accessible Computing
>
> Accessible Computing, Inc.
> 1210 McLaughlin Drive
> Charlotte, NC 28212
>
> 704.248.8855 (office)
> 704.248.6682 (fax)
>
> http://www.accessiblecomputing.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 

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Re: Independant work

[John Wilker]

I've worked independent a few times now. Usually from work I found on a job
board or even CF-Jobs. When we moved to CO. I finally had enough contacts
and big enough network to make it successful. I'd recommend your local UG.
Those are good/great places to network. Also start posting availability on
job boards, cf-jobs, anywhere you can think of. You'll get a ton of crap,
and a ton of "we want FT" but in the midst of that you might get one or two
good leads.

HTH

J

On 3/8/06, Jeff S <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I've worked for an established company for the entirety of my IT
> career.  I've now decided to leave my current company and am considering
> striking out on my own to get my own contracts.
> For those of you that work for yourself.  Where did you find your first
> jobs?  Most of the work I'm find are companies wanting full time employees
> and not just programming work.
> I'm guessing I'm looking in the wrong places so I'm here asking for any
> resources you independant guys go to find your next job.  Any other
> advice/resources would be greatly appreciated as well.
>
> TIA,
> JS
>
> 

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Re: Web Developer Position - Beginner

[John Wilker]

Jim, says just one plant.

I bet it's a beauty though :)

J

On 2/27/06, Cameron Childress <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I had the same thought.  :)  Odd to see "One Giant Plant" listed in a
> job description.  It makes me wonder what the "other amenities" are.
> Good to see postings with a sense of humor.
>
> -Cameron
>
> On 2/27/06, John Wilker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Just one plant?
> >
> > Sorry couldn't resist :)
> >
> > On 2/27/06, Jim Curran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Nylon Technology
> > > www.nylontechnology.com
> > >
> > > About Us
> > > We are a New York City-based software company that builds web-based
> > > systems
> > > including websites, intranets, extranets, cd-rom, content management
> and
> > > database solutions.  We focus on the technology portion of web
> projects
> > > and
> > > partner with design agencies to provide the interface design.
> > >
> > > We work in a loft on 14th Street with skylights, a large plant and
> other
> > > amenities.  It's a fairly informal environment, but we are serious
> about
> > > our
> > > work.  We have been in business since 1997.
> > >
> > > Job Description
> > > We are looking for a detail-oriented web developer with around two
> years
> > > of
> > > professional experience building websites.  Intermediate
> > > HTML/DHTML/JavaScript and beginner Cold Fusion and SQL skills are a
> must.
> > > Other languages are a plus.
> > >
> > > You will be surrounded by advanced web application developers using
> > > primarily Cold Fusion and SQL Server, so this position will offer
> great
> > > growth and learning potential.
> > >
> > > You will interact directly with clients, so communication skills are
> also
> > > important.  The position is full-time and includes health benefits.
> > >
> > > Next Step
> > > If you are interested, please send your resume to
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > .
> > > In your cover email, include:
> > > 1) Desired salary range
> > > 2) City where you live
> > > 3) When you would be available for an interview
> > > 4) When you would be available to start
> > >
> > > Thank you.
> > >
> > > - Jim
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
> 

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Re: A Question For Recruitment Agents

[John Wilker]

The recruiter I used to work for. As an employee in their IT, used to mark
it's developers up 200%

On 1/21/06, Maureen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> The current contract I am on they are marking me up 120% to the client
> on a 1099 contract.  I've never seen one markup 300% but it wouldn't
> surprise me, especially if the agency is withholding taxes or
> providing any kind of beenies.
>
> On 1/19/06, Adrian Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Out of interest, does anyone know what percentage the agency takes
> from/adds
> > to the rate?
> >
> > I know of one guy who wanted to charge the end client nearly 300% of the
> > rate. That can't be normal can it?
>
> 

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Re: A Question For Recruitment Agents

[John Wilker]

I've had that happen too. I don't deal with them anymore if I can avoid it.
Agents now-a-days seem to think we (developers, DBAs, whatever it is they're
looking for) are not people. I've had one go quiet for months. then email me
again not remembering our previous contact. I had another ask me the same
questions he asked in an earlier conversation from THAT DAY!!

The industry of head hunting/recruiting has gone downhill a lot.

On 1/19/06, Adrian Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Companies I can understand. But agents?
>
> If they can take my email address and send automated emails for other
> potential jobs, why can't they do the same with rejections?
>
> In my eyes it doesn't do their already tarnished reputations any good.
>
> I read a piece in the BCS (British Computer Society) magazine, saying
> there
> should be a code of conduct for agents, one that includes letting
> candidates
> know, in a timely manor, about rejections. I tend to agree.
>
> Having said all that, I meant to tell someone yesterday that I won't be
> able
> to do some work for them because I don't have the time. Oppps!
>
> Adrian
>
> -Original Message-
> From: s. isaac dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 20 January 2006 00:02
> To: CF-Jobs-Talk
> Subject: Re: A Question For Recruitment Agents
>
>
> > A quick question for any recruitment agents on this
> > list(or anyone else who
> > knows).
>
> > Twice in the passed year I've started a dialog with a
> > recruitment agent,
> > only for them to go quite and not tell me that I didn't
> > get an interview.
> > How hard would it be for them to have sent a quick email
> > saying, "they
> > weren't interested"?
>
> > I understand that this might lead to another email asking
> > why etc, but I'd
> > rather THAT second email was ignored and I knew I didn't
> > get an interview so
> > you can move on and make other plans.
>
> > Surely it's just common courtesy, or am I missing
> > something?
>
> > Adrian
>
> It's become unfortunately common for companies to not send rejection
> letters, emails, etc... just what I've experienced and heard from others,
> so
> you're not alone in thinking it's discourteous.
>
>
> s. isaac dealey 434.293.6201
> new epoch : isn't it time for a change?
>
> add features without fixtures with
> the onTap open source framework
>
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> http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/author/4806Dealey.htm
>
>
>
>
> 

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Re: 2006 Turn Around?

[John Wilker]

I don't think people are less ecstatic about it. I think it's matured. It's
less a field of College kids with no life outside the workplace and dot
coms, with free flowing jolt and skittles. And like Damien said, some of us
have no families and lives outside work, which imo is healthy. I'd rather
work for a company that wants workers to have a life than one that doesn't

As to 06 looking good. yeah mine is starting to shape up nicely.

J

On 1/19/06, Damien McKenna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >   IT no longer seems to be a field where people are ecstatic
> > about it and want to live and breath IT 24/7.
>
> Some people have a spouse and child(ren) waiting for them when they get
> home, but sneak in as much geeking as they can anyway :-)
>
> --
> Damien McKenna - Web Developer - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> The Limu Company - http://www.thelimucompany.com/ - 407-804-1014
> #include 
>



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Writer/Web Consultant
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"The measure of success is not whether you have a tough problem to deal
with,
but whether it's the same problem you had last year."
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Re: Part Time Coding

[John Wilker]

we won't tell anyone Ben.

:)

On 12/20/05, Ben Arledge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> However, it appears I'm a novice with email. :) Sorry everyone!
>
> Ben
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Re: People with certifications get paid less

[John Wilker]

interesting reads.

J

On 6/21/05, Jeffry Houser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Been a while since I read it, but as near as I remember, no mention. The
> second article is a commentary on the first article. And the third article
> is a commentary on the commentary.
> 
> At 10:43 AM 6/21/2005, you wrote:
> >I just glanced at the first article but do any of them mention if there 
> is
> >any relation between "certified workers" and job security?
> >
> >On 6/21/05, Jeffry Houser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Interesting read:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > 
> http://www.computerworld.com/careertopics/careers/labor/story/0,10801,102324,00.html
> > >
> > >
> > 
> http://www.computerworld.com/careertopics/careers/training/story/0,10801,102394,00.html
> > >
> > >
> > 
> http://www.computerworld.com/careertopics/careers/skills/story/0,10801,102564,00.html?source=NLT_CAR&nid=102564
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Jeffry Houser, Software Developer, Writer, Songwriter, Recording 
> Engineer
> > > AIM: Reboog711 | Phone: 1-203-379-0773
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> > > My Company: 
> > > My Books: 
> > > My Recording Studio: 
> > > Connecticut Macromedia User Group: 
> > >
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> > >
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Re: How long is a piece of string?

[John Wilker]

well said

On 5/12/05, Cameron Childress <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> I have to say that all this talk about low and high level programmers
> kinda irks me. IMHO, there is no simple test you can give to tell
> what level a developer is at. In the end it's all relative to the
> judge's (your) skill level after all isn't it?
> 
> From Paul Graham's (excellent) Essay "Great Hackers"
> http://www.paulgraham.com/gh.html
> 
> "Because you can't tell a great hacker except by working with him,
> hackers themselves can't tell how good they are. This is true to a
> degree in most fields. I've found that people who are great at
> something are not so much convinced of their own greatness as
> mystified at why everyone else seems so incompetent.
> 
> But it's particularly hard for hackers to know how good they are,
> because it's hard to compare their work. This is easier in most other
> fields. In the hundred meters, you know in 10 seconds who's fastest.
> Even in math there seems to be a general consensus about which
> problems are hard to solve, and what constitutes a good solution. But
> hacking is like writing. Who can say which of two novels is better?
> Certainly not the authors."
> 
> -Cameron
> 
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Re: need coldfusion splst sr level-with cascade bob ross 201 569 2822 to 100k

[John Wilker]

For a senior level position. Not really. The 100k part might be a bit
high but the starting number is inline I think.


On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 07:18:16 -0700, Connie DeCinko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Does anyone else think that wage is over inflated?
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Adrian Lynch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 3:47 AM
> To: CF-Jobs-Talk
> Subject: RE: need coldfusion splst sr level-with cascade bob ross 201 569
> 2822 to 100k
> 
> Would anyone reply to such a post? If that's the way they look to hire, how
> in the world do they work?!
> 
> Maybe that was the test!! "Decipher this and you get the job"
> 
> :OD
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Stephen Moretti (cfmaster) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 30 March 2005 10:47
> To: CF-Jobs-Talk
> Subject: Re: need coldfusion splst sr level-with cascade bob ross 201
> 569 2822 to 100k
> 
> Jeffry Houser wrote:
> 
> >  That has to be the shortest job post I've ever read, although I don't
> >think I understand all the code.  What is splst?
> >  Senior Level, with Cascading Style (sheets?)
> >
> >At 10:14 PM 3/29/2005, you wrote:
> >
> >
> >>need coldfusion splst sr level-with cascade
> >>style-urgent-bob ross 201 569 2822-central nj-80-100k-urgent
> >>
> >>
> (Gets old man's head out the box) Mobile phones have a lot to answer for!!
> 
> So in english.
> 
> Urgent Requirement!
> Senior level ColdFusion specialist with Cascading Style Sheet expertise
> required for permenant position in Central New Jersey.
> Wage $80,000 to $100,000 dependant on experience
> To apply, contact Bob Ross on 201 569 2822
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RE: A local company is going out of business...

[John Wilker]

I would think going out of business clears you of any non-competes for sure.

 
No competition if they don't exist. I would think (but not sure) even if
he's running it from his bedroom it wouldn't count but who knows

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From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 10:58 AM
To: CF-Jobs-Talk
Subject: A local company is going out of business...

A local development company is "Closing its doors."  Two programmers were 
changed to independent contractor status to finish one big project for a 
client, but everyone else was let go.  The company wasn't a big one (5-6 
people), but it is still sad to see it go.

  My company done some work for them as a subcontractor in the past (all 
past projects were disasters).  How would I verify that the company is 
truly "out of business" and not just "The owner firing everyone and moving 
into a home office."?  If the company is gone, I suppose I would be 
released from any non-compete agreements.

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