DRK4 and Log4CF

[Ciliotta, Mario]

HI,

I was wondering if any has used the Log4CF that is part of DRK4.  I am interested in 
finding out exactly what it can do for me.  My major problem here is that where I 
work, we as developers have no access to the production CFADMIN(only access to the 
development admin) and their for cannot read the logs.  I know that their is sandbox 
security, but they cannot seem to get it to work here.  I was told that they would 
somehow be able to set it up thru sandbox to allow us to view the logs but this has 
not happened.  

I was wondering if Log4CF is a tool for reading the logs or is it just a way of 
getting more data into the logs.  I did notice that the screenshot shows an email 
option but there really is not detailed explanation of exactly what I can do with 
this.  What I am really looking for an application that would allow me to read the 
logs and save certain entries into a database. I would not what to delete the entries 
as some of the servers are shared with other developer groups.  I have started to 
write my own (not working yet at all) but I was hoping that there was a product 
already available.  I am trying to write one that mimics the CFADMIN in the look and 
feel.  The new log viewing in MX is a 100X better than in 4.5 and I was hoping that 
Log4CF was a scaled down version or maybe something that I can include. 

Thanks,
Mario

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RE: sites seen from some places not others .. how can that be?

[Mike Kear]

Thanks to everyone for your suggestions.  I'm afraid I was tearing what's
left of my hair out over this, not knowing how to either prove my client is
doing something wrong, or prove my sysadmin had messed something up.

Matt, you're a hero for suggesting this site.  Here's the information I need
to pin down the problem at least, and show my sysadmin he's got something to
attend to. (He's been saying "nope! Looks fine to me - must be your client")

These dns sites ought to be compulsory bookmarks for all sysadmins I reckon.
What great resources they are!

I hope this will be what I need to get the problem fixed. 



Cheers,
Michael Kear
Windsor, NSW, Australia
AFP Webworks.




-Original Message-
From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, 11 August 2003 6:18 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: sites seen from some places not others .. how can that be?

I could connect fine to the sites if I used no 'www'.  If I clicked on
the links that included 'www' I got a 'no page to display'

http://dnsstuff.com and its sibling, http://dnsreport.com, are probably
the two best places to pick apart a dns setting (and of course
http://tracert.com is invaluable as well).

This report is interesting:

http://www.dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=leverage.com.au
Only one dns server, which ain't so good.  Your other domain reports the
same problem.

All in all what you report and what I'm seeing 'smells' like an ISP that
goofed the dns and not a local routing problem.  If they make the
entries over again -- and give you a second dns server, which is a must,
I think.  I wonder if the problem wouldn't magically go away.




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Re: When to use Mach-II vs FB4? [Re: RE: re: Mach-II]

[John Paul Ashenfelter]

Ahhh, I knew that there was some sort of insidious plan at work :)

Regards,

John Paul Ashenfelter
CTO/TransitionPoint
- Original Message - 
From: "Hal Helms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 5:04 PM
Subject: RE: When to use Mach-II vs FB4? [Re: RE: re: Mach-II]


> Yes, my role is to pit John Q and Ben against each other. When it's all
> over, I'll be the only one left!
>
> Hal Helms
> "Java for CF Programmers" class
> in Las Vegas, August 18-22
> www.halhelms.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Stacy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 4:45 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: When to use Mach-II vs FB4? [Re: RE: re: Mach-II]
>
>
> FB4 != Mach-II
>
> FB4 = John Q + Hal
>
> Mach-II = Hal + Ben
>
> ;)
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Doug White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 4:30 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: When to use Mach-II vs FB4? [Re: RE: re: Mach-II]
>
> FB4 = Mach-II = Hal Helms
>
>
> nuff said
>
> ==
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>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "John Paul Ashenfelter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 3:12 PM
> Subject: When to use Mach-II vs FB4? [Re: RE: re: Mach-II]
>
>
> | I tend to agree that it sounds like a troll but it does ask one
> valid
> | question -- how involved has Hal been in FB4? (Hal?) FB3 and FB4 are
> pretty
> | different animals. FB4 answered a lot of issue with FB3. Doesn't mean
> it
> | fits all problems  -- no framework does that. FB4 solves a certain set
> of
> | general problems well. I'm still grokking mach-ii, but I'm not sure I
> | understand yet when I'd choose it over FB4 for a given CF project.
> |
> | So from someone with more mach-ii experience (and FB4 experience.
> Cmon,
> | they've been out a couple days/weeks each :), what would help you
> decide
> | which framework is right for a given project -- in other words, what's
> a
> | specific example that would be better suited to one or the other.
> Looking
> | head to head, they're both MVC (to an extent), they both are new
> without
> | lots of production apps running in them, they both come from smart
> people.
> | I've read the paper and seen the discussion threads (eg ContactManager
> with
> | mach-ii is overkill) -- but am curious about the nitty gritty --
> what's an
> | example that would clearly favor one framework over the other?
> |
> | Regards,
> |
> | John Paul Ashenfelter
> | CTO/TransitionPoint
> | - Original Message -
> | From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> | To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> | Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 4:42 PM
> | Subject: RE: RE: re: Mach-II
> |
> |
> | > Well since Hal co-authored the Fusebox book with me in 2002, I think
> it's
> | > safe to say he knows something about Fusebox :)
> | >
> | > (And if this were April 1st, I'd think for sure your posting was a
> troll!)
> | >
> | > Original Message:
> | > -
> | > From: Angus McFee [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> | > Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 13:08:53 -0700 (PDT)
> | > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> | > Subject: RE: RE: re: Mach-II
> | >
> | >
> | > Hal -
> | >
> | > I've heard from plenty of people looking for a way to beat up on
> Fusebox,
> | > but usually they have nothing to say when it comes to building a
> better
> | > framework. This is the first time in a long time anyone has
> suggested an
> | > alternative approach, and I really don't see how any of this
> benefits
> | > developers. This mach-ii stuff looks like just another petty attack
> on
> | > Fusebox.
> | >
> | > It's pretty clear we see things differently when it comes to
> building Web
> | > applications. I don't know you, but I can tell you are a pretty
> | intelligent
> | > person, so you probably have some good reasons for why you don't
> like or
> | > hate fusebox.
> | >
> | > What I have to ask you is: do you use fusebox? Becuase there are
> plenty of
> | > people who are ready to attack it anytime and don't even know
> ColdFusion,
> | > much less what a framework is. You will probably never be convinced
> about
> | > the benefits of fusebox, all I can do is disagree with you, and
> point out
> | > all the great things fusebox does for developers:
> | >
> | > * it separates business logic from presentation logic, making for
> more
> | > organized, efficent code
> | > * it gives developers a common set of rules and methods to work
> from, so
> | > that everyone can understand what the other people are doing on a
> project
> | > regardless of the size of a team
> | > * it modularizes and encapsulates code, making it easier to reuse
> and thus
> | > to maintain
> | > * it is s

Re: Repost: Regular Expression Help

[Patricia G . L . Hall]

Thanks... it did.  I'm going to bang on it for a while, and if the  
weekend doesn't go well, then I'll pop over to the regex list...

-Patti

On Friday, August 8, 2003, at 05:29  PM, Ben Doom wrote:

> Well, there are some things you can do here, but nothing's going to be
> perfect.
>
> Let me restate:  it would be more work to create a regex to handle  
> every
> case than to just to a find & replace on things.
>
> Start with the most complicated common case.  Let's say it's a td with  
> a
> width.  Your regex might look something like this:
>  and your replace would look like this:
> 
>
> The problem is that there's no really good way for you to define how  
> much
> the regex should match, since there are a really wide variety of  
> things you
> can stick in a td, both legally and otherwise.
>
> Anyway, I'd start with your most complicated case and work back down  
> to a
> plain td.  From there, you ought to (hopefully) be able to tweak it by  
> hand
> fairly easily.
>
> If not, or you want to explore this more thoroughly, or just want a  
> better
> explanation of how the regex works or whatnot, I'd point you to the  
> CF-RegEx
> list, where Ninjas are standing by.  Seriously, there are several guys  
> over
> there who, between us, generally can take on just about anything:
> http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/ 
> index.cfm?method=threads&forumid=21
>
> HTH.
>
>
> --  Ben Doom
> Programmer & General Lackey
> Moonbow Software, Inc
>
> : -Original Message-
> : From: Patricia G. L. Hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> : Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 8:41 AM
> : To: CF-Talk
> : Subject: Repost: Regular Expression Help
> :
> :
> : I tried to post this yesterday from the archives and I screwed it up.
> : So.. reposting.
> :
> : I am dealing with a site that has been ripped apart by search and
> : replace
> : in Homesite+.  Tags that used to look like:
> :
> : 
> :   : class="formSelectColumnsLarge">
> :
> :  
> :
> :  : height="148"> :
> : Have had the > stripped off of the  and now look like this:
> :
> :  :   : class="formSelectColumnsLarge">
> :
> : 
> :
> :  : height="148"> :
> : I need a regular expression that I can use in Homesite+ to locate all
> : victims.  I found a regex that I tried to hack and modify, but I only
> : barely know regex.  The hack has found a bunch, but I'd like more  
> expert
> : help if I could.  This is the regex I used (which located all of the
> : examples above).
> :
> : ]*<
> :
> : Can anyone help me do better?
> :
> : Thanks - Patti
> :
> :
> 
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Re: [cftalk] calculating the date and time.

[Allan Cliff]

  - Original Message - 
  From: ColdFusion Programmer 
  To: CF-Talk 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 12:48 PM
  Subject: [cftalk] calculating the date and time.


  Spot on Allan, this is what I was trying to do. Can you show me how to calclulate 
the from-to date time in the last 24 hours

  In the last 24 hours (29 Jul 2003 10:00 - 30 Jul 2003 09:59)

  Many Thanks
  Allan

  >
  
  >0)>
  
  >
  >
  >
  >I haven't tested this so there maybe small errors but something like 
  >this??

  >- Original Message - 

  >From: ColdFusion Programmer 

  >To: CF-Talk 

  >Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 12:24 PM

  >Subject: [cftalk] calculating the date and time.
  >
  >

  >How do I get the calculate the from time to start at 01:00 am and the 
  >to time to end at 00:59 am. Can you please show me how to get the date 
  >and time in the format mentioned below
  >

  >In the last 7 days (23 Jul 2003 01:00 - 30 Jul 2003 00:59)
  >
  >

  >>> I was hoping somebody could help me. I'm trying to

  >>> display the date and time. This is how I want to

  >>> display it:

  >>>

  >>> If the current time is 10:05, I want to display the

  >>> time in this format:

  >>>

  >>> In the last hour (09:05 - 10:04)

  >>>

  >>> If the current time is 10:05 and the date is 30.July,

  >>> I want to display the date time in this format:

  >>>

  >>> In the last 24 hours (29 Jul 2003 10:00 - 30 Jul 2003

  >>> 09:59)

  >>>

  >>> If the current time is 10:05 and the date is 30.July,

  >>> I want to display the date time in this format:

  >>>

  >>> In the last 7 days (23 Jul 2003 01:00 - 30 Jul 2003

  >>> 00:59)

  >>>

  >>> If the current time is 10:05 and the date is 30.July,

  >>> I want to display the date time in this format:

  >>>

  >>> In the last 30 days (30 Jun 2003 01:00 - 30 Jul 2003

  >>> 00:59)

  >>

  >>Look into DateAdd() - you can add any amount of time to a date, from

  >>seconds to years

  >>

  >>If you want to remove 7 days, you can just do DateAdd("d", -7, 
  >Now())

  >>

  >>Hope this helps

  >>

  >>

  >>

  

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Re: CFMX 6.1 upgrade - 'smooth as butter'

[Sean Daniels]

On Tuesday, August 5, 2003, at 11:59  PM, Stacy Young wrote:

> Hah, weird. I hit that exact same snag. All good now.

I have the same problem. Is it safe to assume the built in wrap()  
function behaves the same as the UDF from CFLib?


> Stace
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 10:12 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: CFMX 6.1 upgrade - 'smooth as butter'
>
> I did an install on a server using an old MX app, it had an error blow
> up on
> the very first page.
>
> As it turned out this was from the early days and I had included the
> strlib
> from cflib.org and wrap() is now a built in function of CFML (this is
> documented), so it was no surprise. I commented out the function and
> everything worked great!
>
> Excellent job for the team!
>
> So then I uninstalled, removed all references to cfmx from the server
> and am
> going to give the jrun/cfmx combo a shot :)
>
> Wish me luck!
>
> - Calvin
>
> - Original Message -
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 9:31 PM
> Subject: CFMX 6.1 upgrade - 'smooth as butter'
>
>
>> Nice.  That is the expected behavior!  :)
>>
>>> m, butter.
>>>
>>>
>>> WIN2K --  IIS --  SQL Server
>>> Smooth upgrade. Nice speed gain!
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks MM
>>> Dave
>>>
>>
>
> 
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The point of XML for us in CF?

[Mike Kear]

I've been watching developments and conversations about XML for a while now,
and I'd like to know what the use is for XML for us CF developers. 

I know it has use in passing data cross-platform and from one server to
another and I need no convincing there, but is there a reason you'd use a
XML packet output from your database instead of a query?   Any other reason
to use XML if you're not referring to importing/exporting syndicated content
with another site, another server? 



Cheers,
Michael Kear
Windsor, NSW, Australia
AFP Webworks.





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Re: MM Exchange lack of proper nav Suggested Design Change

[Chris Montgomery]

Thursday, August 7, 2003, 11:42:02 PM, Rafael Bleiweiss wrote:

> I ask what the odds are because if the handful of us who have posted
> in the past couple days all feel similarly regarding not just the
> "Back" functionality, how many other developers out there feel the
> same way and "haven't" spoken out?

[raising hand]

I would have to agree with just about everything Rafael & Matt have said
in this thread. The dev exchange after the Flash makeover has just plain
sucked (for all of the reasons already noted). I applaud their efforts
in making their objections heard and offering solutions to fix the
problems. Thanks, guys.

-- 
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Web Development, Web Project Management, Software Sales

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Re: Objects Everywhere!

[Sean A Corfield]

On Saturday, Aug 9, 2003, at 15:33 US/Pacific, Rich Z wrote:
> 1.One of the things I'd like to do is populate a user's session
> with a user object that persists. Now my concern here is that this
> object is being created for each authenticated user. I'm assuming that
> all methods effectively get copied ot every user as well (again I'm
> assuming). This sounds expensive. If I get to 200, 300, etc. concurrent
> logged-in users, is this an inefficient way to do things?

macromedia.com uses session scope instances of CFCs and supports 
15,000-20,000 concurrent sessions during peak traffic - I wouldn't 
worry about a few hundred users!

> 2.Another sort of related quesiton is the idea of an object having
> other objects (i.e. composition). Here's my concern here. Let's say 
> I've
> got a user object that has one to many bookmarks associated with it. If
> a user has say 15 bookmarks, this also seems inefficient.

Why do you think it's inefficient?

Sean A Corfield -- http://www.corfield.org/blog/

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RE: Multiple instances of CFMX - licensing

[Stacy Young]

Whoa, did this just change? So are u saying that for one machine with
dual CPU we'd be looking at $3499 US for CFMX J2EE?

Stace

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 1:36 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Multiple instances of CFMX - licensing

Licensing is per 2 CPUs. So if you're running it on a dual box, one CF
Enterprise license is sufficient, no matter how many instances you are
running. If you're running it on a quad box, you'd need two licenses
(2x2=4), no matter how many instances.

Phil

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RE: When to switch databases??

[Matt Robertson]

Jeff wrote:
>What is a good indication that you need to move beyond Access??

When bad things start happening and you see or hear about them, or your
ISP demands it to stabilize the server, or -- if you have log access --
you can see a lot of hung threads and slow templates that you can trace
down to slow/choked db response, when your server starts throwing L26
and NT #2 errors all over the place and you are thrashing around looking
for a culprit.

A halfway-decent rule of thumb is (pause while I make it up) when you
experience 3 simultaneous, concurrent writes to the db at the same
instant, and this happens with frequency.  It takes more visitors than
you might think to hit such a threshold.

Or not... Maybe your app is written in such a way that the db is treated
gently, relatively speaking.  Maybe if you have problems they are the
result of someone else's load (if this is a shared server) so in that
scenario your life is much more complicated.

Not much of an answer, is it?  You've already heard there are no set
answers and, really, there aren't.  From experience I can say this
(only) with certainty:  When the time comes where you *must* make a
move, you won't need to ask anyone.

I think a better question is "When can I afford to make the move?"
Don't wait until the site begins to collapse, especially given how tough
it is for anyone to give you useful advice on your unique situation.


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256 color minimum

[dcooper]

Terminal services colors should be fine.  It's the display on the machine's display 
card that should matter.  

>I'm trying to install RedSky, but as others have said 256 color depth is
>required. I am running Terminal Services to my dev box to install, and it
>only supports 256 colors. I have no option of increasing the color depth. Is
>there anyway to remove this color depth limitation or another way I can
>install the update?
>
>Cedric
>
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CFPOP and Attachments (CF 5.0)

[David Hannum \(Ohio University\)]

I'm building a web based email program in CF 5.0.  I'm got most of it, but
I'm stumped regarding how to handle nested emails - that is an email that is
a forwarded collection of emails - then what if some of them either have
more emails in them, or other attachments or both.  How do you handle the
compound nesting situations?

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Re: Controlling caching on a page

[Thomas Chiverton]

On Tuesday 12 Aug 2003 11:34 am, David Collie (itndac) wrote:
> 
> 
> 

All of which my be stripped or modified by the users proxy.

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RE: What type of cookies does MX automatically set?

[Andy Ousterhout]

Dave,
I am trying to make my site work even for Users who don't except any type of
cookies. Here is my current setup:

0.  MX
1. Session management on
2. URLSessionFormat on all of my links and Form statements
3.  Hosting ISP doesn't have j2EE enabled
4.  IE 6.0 has Privacy set to not accept cookies from the site

I get a "?NULL" appended to each of my URL's and loose session management
rather than having the CFID and CFToken added.  Any idea why?

Andy

-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2003 1:37 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: What type of cookies does MX automatically set?


> What type of cookies does MX set when you turn session
> management on? They don't appear to be session cookies.

If you've enabled J2EE Session Management in the CF Administrator, CFMX sets
one session cookie called JSESSIONID with a UUID-type value. If you haven't,
CFMX behaves just like CF 5 and earlier - it sets two persistent cookies
called CFID and CFTOKEN, which typically contain numeric values, although
since CF 4.5 or 5 (I forget which) you could use a UUID value within CFTOKEN
instead of a number.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
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Redsky-Still issues with CFINSERT and CFUPDATE.

[David Schmidt]

Christine wrote:

>Sure, you can e-mail it to me - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is this the 
I have sent sample code to Christine via e-mail.

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RE: Cookie disappears when browser closes!

[Jennifer Perkins]

It's a development site, so you can't view it.  When the visitor votes in
the poll, an action page is called that updates the database table, then the
user is redirected to this page, which sets the cookie (if the user just
voted) and displays the poll results.  Page code looks like this:

===





























Poll Results


#question#






#answer#





#numberformat(evaluate((chosen/totalvotes)*100),
'999')#%0%



Total votes: #totalvotes#














===

The code for the homepage, which displays the poll or poll results
(depending on if the cookie is set), contains the following code:

===













===

The poll or poll results is actually displayed (based on the
"showpollresults" var) using an included file.  Thanks in advance for any
help you can provide!

Jen Perkins
Macromedia Certified ColdFusion Developer
Carol/Trevelyan Strategy Group
http://www.ctsg.com/

Kumbaya, Dammit!
http://www.kumbayadammit.com/



-Original Message-
From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 5:53 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Cookie disappears when browser closes!


whats the url?
whats the code look like?

tony

-Original Message-
From: Jennifer Perkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 9:52 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Cookie disappears when browser closes!


I'm having a problem with a cookie I've set for a client's site. Server
is
CF5, and there is no cflocation tag on the page anywhere, so that's not
an
issue.

When a user votes in a poll on the site's homepage, I set a cookie. The
homepage will then display the results of the poll instead of the poll
itself, to prevent users from voting mutliple times in a poll. The
cookie is
just fine after it's set...until I close the browser window. Then it
disappears. I can navigate around the site, to other sites, etc., no
problem - it only goes away when the browser window is closed.

I've tried setting the "domain" attribute for the tag, but that did not
affect anything. The "expires" attribute is currently set to
"12/31/2020"
although I had it set to "never" before, and that didn't work either.

I've lowered my privacy settings on MSIE to "low", thinking it might be
an
issue with my browser (previously set at "medium") but that doesn't help
either.

Any ideas?


Jen Perkins
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Re: pricing (was Re: Multiple instances of CFMX - licensing)

[Jochem van Dieten]

Matt Liotta wrote:
> That isn't true. Previously, you could host multiple instances without  
> buying additional licenses.

On a single CPU machine. On a dual CPU machine, you needed 2 JRun 
and 2 CF MX for J2EE licenses, so the price for that did go down.

Jochem


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Controlling caching on a page

[Thane Sherrington]

Is there a way to set a page so that it never gets cached by the browser, 
regardless of the browser settings?


T

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RE: Controlling caching on a page

[David Collie (itndac)]

I use... 





and it works for me :-)

-Original Message-
From: Thane Sherrington
Sent: 12 August 2003 11:28
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Controlling caching on a page


Is there a way to set a page so that it never gets cached by the
browser, 
regardless of the browser settings?


T

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RE: Benorama.com

[Benoit Hediard]

Hi,

I'll put benorama.com online by the end of the month...
We just launch our new MX app so I don't have the time to work on benorama.

Till then, if you want, I can send you the .doc version of the articles
(CFMX best practices).
FYI, you still have access to the presentation I did on MVC at CF-Europe :
http://www.cf-europe.org/preso/bhediard/168409/index.html


Thanks!

Benoit Hediard
www.benorama.com (dead link...;) )

PS : for people in charge of cf-europe website, there is a big CF error on
the home page.

-Message d'origine-
De : Jim Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Envoyé : mercredi 6 août 2003 15:46
À : CF-Talk
Objet : Re: Benorama.com


Google cache?

- Jim

Brad Roberts wrote:

>Anyone know if the site will be up soon?  Is there another way to get to
the
>site?
>
>-Brad
>
>
>

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Re: Sessions and CFCs

[Michael Dinowitz]

OK, something is definitely wrong here. I just did the upgrade again and it has
not changed the version number. I'm going to do it one more time and use the
'new CF server' setting.



> Hi Michael,
>
> I show 6,1,0,63958 on all boxes that I've upgraded. Definitely very strange
> what you're seeing...
>
> chris
>
>
>
> >-Original Message-
> >From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 7:17 PM
> >To: CF-Talk
> >Subject: Re: Sessions and CFCs
> >
> >> The cache setup and the use look OK. What about the CFC itself?
> >I posted it to this thread earlier (in reply to Raymond)
> >
> >> > Is it possible that when I upgraded to 6.1 from the last beta
> >> > something went
> >> > wrong? I'm seeing  6,1,0,60662  as the build.
> >>
> >> You should see 6,1,0,63958 as the build so it looks like your last
> >> upgrade didn't take.
> >OK, that's really strange as the build for the HoF machine is  6,1,0,0
> >and
> >that was done from scratch (cf5->cfmx ->cfmx 6.1)
> >Are you sure about that build number?
> >
> >
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RE: Please Test??

[Tony Weeg]

ditto

xp ie 6.something :)

later
t77

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2003 9:06 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Please Test??


70 fields returns nothing for me.

10 fields returns "10 fields submitted".

Hope this helps,

-Novak

- Original Message - 
From: "Bud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2003 5:38 PM
Subject: Please Test??


> Can you all please load this page and click to 2 form buttons.
>
> https://www363.ssldomain.com/rubylarue/form.cfm
>
> This is a page on Crystal Tech that is running MX on Windows 2003/IIS
> 6.0. The new 6.1 updater has NOT been installed (running
> 6,0,0,58500). Tech support cannot see a problem. I cannot get the
> form with 70 fields to work using IE 5 or 6 on PC. I cannot get
> either form to work running Safari. The exact same page works fine on
> an MX server running 2000/IIS 5.0. The page should return...
>
> 70 fields submitted
>
> 10 fields submitted
>
> ...respectively.
>
> This only manifests itself under the SSL certificate (Instant SSL
> Wildcard cert).
>
> Thanks for the feedback. I've been trying for well over 48 hours to
> convince the good tech support folk at CT that there is a problem.
>
>
> Below is the page where it does work.
>
> https://www229.ssldomain.com/cf-ezcart/form.cfm
>
> And if anyone has seen this or can point to any documentation, that
> would be great.
>
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RE: Java classpath

[Debbie Dickerson]

It's a known issue:
http://www.macromedia.com/support/coldfusion/releasenotes/mx/mx61_known_problems.html


-Original Message-
From: Matthew Fusfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 9:50 AM
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Subject: Java classpath


Just noticed that after installing 6.1, my Java classpath in CF administrator had been 
stripped of all backslashes in the pathnames. Not difficult to fix but this caused a 
problem for my Java CFX tags; anyone else run into this?

Matt

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Redsky-Still issues with CFINSERT and CFUPDATE.

[David Schmidt]

Mark W. Breneman wrote:

>Can anyone shed some light on what the 'problems' are with cfinsert and
>cfupdate not working with 6.1? I must be missing an email or two. 
It _seems_ to be an issue with MS Access datasources (haven't tested a SQL source yet) 
that are passworded and receive username/password at runtime in the CF tag.

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CFMX Pro & 6.1 J2EE

[Robert Shaw]

I don't think I'm the only one finding the changes in the versions of CFMX 
rather confusing so I thought I'd post for clarification on this. We have an 
MX Pro license (upgraded from 4 I think). I just launched the installer and 
I see the options for J2EE. It looks like I can install this but with my Pro 
license what will happen? I just want to make sure I'm correct in thinking 
that Pro licenses will not be eligible for the J2EE options and only 
Enterprise customers will.

TIA,
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Re: CF or .DotNet what do you think?

[jon hall]

Have you thought about moving to straight Java for your controller and
model, and just use CF where it's best, for the UI?

Friday, August 8, 2003, 5:12:01 AM, you wrote:
OT> Problem Areas:

OT> Object orientation (or lack thereof) and the implementation of it in CF, 
OT> performance of CFCs (found it can take 3ms to call a method!), 
OT> functions, general CFML syntax, lack of commands that are in CFML that 
OT> aren't in CFScript, sessions doing weird things (may be my fault), lack 
OT> of control (see the 'control freak').

OT> Errrm, what else... Ah, if you put an object into the SESSION variable 
OT> it not only stores the data, but the methods associated with it as well.

That would be a nice change in the future, I don't see any value in
caching the methods, as a matter of fact, worry about memory limits
keeps me from going as far as I want to with session scoped cfc's.

OT> Therefore change the class and it doesn't change in memory. If I could 
OT> work out how to serialize the data at the end of a request I'd do that, 
OT> but I've no idea. Instantiating an object can take ages. If CFMODULE'ing 
OT> a template that includes, say common.cfm, and the CFMODULE'ing template 
OT> also includes the same file and in that file are funcitons, then a 
OT> 'function cannot be declared twice' error is raised and I can find no 
OT> way around it.

isCustomFunction()? I'd say you may need to take a step back and
reexamine how your entire UI layer though. This should not be
a problem if it is properly separated.

 Not enough time this morning...heh

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Re: HELP! MSXML ServerHTTP and CFHTTP alternatives?

[Tony Schreiber]

Thanks. I found that last night and got it working. Except, it takes two
minutes to return a call from eBay (The sample call to UPS included with
the tag works fine). Can't figure out why...

> CFX_RawSocket
>
> If you can use MX you can use the new cfhttpparam type="XML"
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RE: Java classpath

[Matthew Fusfield]

Thanks, I somehow read right past it after reading the entry about
escaped slashes.

Matt

-Original Message-
From: Debbie Dickerson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 10:11 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Java classpath


It's a known issue:
http://www.macromedia.com/support/coldfusion/releasenotes/mx/mx61_known_
problems.html


-Original Message-
From: Matthew Fusfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 9:50 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Java classpath


Just noticed that after installing 6.1, my Java classpath in CF
administrator had been stripped of all backslashes in the pathnames. Not
difficult to fix but this caused a problem for my Java CFX tags; anyone
else run into this?

Matt

Matthew I. Fusfield
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RE: CFMX 6.1 upgrade - 'smooth as butter'

[Andre Turrettini]

seems 15% - 20% faster on my first test too!  sweet.

> -Original Message-
> From: Peter Tilbrook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 9:52 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: CFMX 6.1 upgrade - 'smooth as butter'
> 
> 
> Same here for the JRun/j2EE installation.
> 
> Peter Tilbrook
> ColdFusion Applications Developer
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> -Original Message-
> From: Doug White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, 6 August 2003 1:15 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: CFMX 6.1 upgrade - 'smooth as butter'
> 
> 
> Same results here.
> 
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> - Original Message -
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 8:31 PM
> Subject: CFMX 6.1 upgrade - 'smooth as butter'
> 
> 
> | Nice.  That is the expected behavior!  :)
> |
> | >m, butter.
> | >
> | >
> | >WIN2K --  IIS --  SQL Server
> | >Smooth upgrade. Nice speed gain!
> | >
> | >
> | >Thanks MM
> | >Dave
> | >
> |
> 
> 
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RE: Please Test??

[Bud]

>Bud,
>
>I get 10 fields submitted
>
>But when I click the 70 button I get a blank page.
>
>I am running IE 6.0.2800 on windows xp pro.
>
>Not sure if you wanted this feedback, but here it is :-)

That's exactly the feedback I want. Tech support says there is no 
problem. The problem I'm having is, my shopping cart returns a blank 
page when submitting the billing info. After hours of testing, I 
narrowed it down to the number of fields. Once there are more than 
20, problems start. But only in IE on PC, until I just tested in 
Safari. Forms don't work at all in that case.

>-Original Message-
>From: Bud [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2003 8:38 PM
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: Please Test??
>
>
>Can you all please load this page and click to 2 form buttons.
>
>https://www363.ssldomain.com/rubylarue/form.cfm
>
>This is a page on Crystal Tech that is running MX on Windows 2003/IIS
>6.0. The new 6.1 updater has NOT been installed (running
>6,0,0,58500). Tech support cannot see a problem. I cannot get the
>form with 70 fields to work using IE 5 or 6 on PC. I cannot get
>either form to work running Safari. The exact same page works fine on
>an MX server running 2000/IIS 5.0. The page should return...
>
>70 fields submitted
>
>10 fields submitted
>
>...respectively.
>
>This only manifests itself under the SSL certificate (Instant SSL
>Wildcard cert).
>
>Thanks for the feedback. I've been trying for well over 48 hours to
>convince the good tech support folk at CT that there is a problem.
>
>
>Below is the page where it does work.
>
>https://www229.ssldomain.com/cf-ezcart/form.cfm
>
>And if anyone has seen this or can point to any documentation, that
>would be great.
>
>--
>
>Bud Schneehagen - Tropical Web Creations, Inc.
>
>_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/
>Web Based Solutions / eCommerce Development & Hosting
>http://www.twcreations.com/ - http://www.cf-ezcart.com/
>954.721.3452 - Toll Free: 877.207.6397 - Fax: 954.721.7493
>
>
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What is Blue Dragon?

So my bossed asked me today "What is Blue Dragon?"

And, to save my reputation as the guy who knows everything , I
immediately said "It's an application server that understands CFML.  I think
you can run CF and .NET through the same application server."

So now that I've told him this, I'm left wondering ... what is Blue Dragon?
;-)

I checked out the website: http://www.newatlanta.com/corporate/

But I'm still left wondering ... is it an alternative to the CF application
server?  And why would I use it rather then using straight CF?  Maybe
there's no simple answer.  But that's really what I'm looking for.

Any help is much appreciated!

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Re: Read the url a person came from??

[Troy Montour]

Mike,
thanks for the heads up.. cause I was trying to figure out why my
computer wasn't sending anything and the default settings blocks that.. so
going to do a redirect with a url variable so I can watch for that.

Troy

- Original Message - 
From: "Mike Kear" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2003 1:07 AM
Subject: RE: Read the url a person came from??


> Troy, as others have said, it's CGI.HTTP_REFERER, but don't use it if its
> presence is critical to the application.   I learned this when I was
looking
> at CGI.HTTP_REFERER to see if someone had the right to see the page if he
> was looking for (the logic : if you're logged in there, then you must be
ok
> to see this page, otherwise, out you go!).   But our customer service dept
> got gazillions of calls from people who couldn't get access to what they'd
> paid for.   Our users were a particularly paranoid lot and typically had
> their cookies turned off and firewalls set on 'stun' and privacy settings
up
> to the max.Those people didn't pass the CGI.HTTP_REFERER to our app.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
> Michael Kear
> Windsor, NSW, Australia
> AFP Webworks.
>
>
>
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Troy Montour" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2003 3:01 PM
> Subject: Read the url a person came from??
>
>
> > Hello,
> > I was wondering if someone can point me in the right direction on
what
> > variable stores the url someone came from?
> >
> > we are doing 2 domains and 1 points to the other domain and I want to
> detect
> > how many people come from the other domain.
> >
> > is one of CGI var's storing this info??
> >
> > Thank you
> > Troy Montour
> >
> >
>
> 
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Redsky-Still issues with CFINSERT and CFUPDATE.

[David Schmidt]

Jochem wrote:

>>>Have you tried the unicode drivers?
>> No, not yet...Do you think it will make a difference?
>Besides, it is something you can test within 2 minutes :-)
I get a strange error with unicode, something about a workgroup file. So -- they don't 
work either.

...David

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