RE: How does CF Mail Server Work?

2004-09-27 Thread B G
In the past I have used something similar to throttle emails that are sent.
With CFMX I it wasn't necessary as it was in previous versions.Maybe it's 
time to bring it back.

My IT guy who has dealt with similar AOL issues has indicated that he never 
got a clear answer from AOL on what would trigger email being blocked.He 
even seemed to indicate that it can depend on which server of their cluster 
happens to handle your emails.Sometimes it gets blocked, other times not.

Has anyone seen a good resource that might indicate how many is too many for 
AOL and others in a bulk email?

Thanks.

From: Paul Vernon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: How does CF Mail Server Work?
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 16:42:09 +0100

You may want to look at throttling down CFMX sending out mails to AOL or 
MSN
and some of the other larger mail providers.

High numbers of mails originating from the same IP look like spam so a
single mail can get through but bulk is blocked... To get around this, you
need to slow down how you send to these companies

Matt (MySecretBase) has updated his throttling articles which can be found
here...

http://mysecretbase.com/Slowing_Down_CFMAIL.cfm

http://mysecretbase.com/Slowing_Down_CFMail_2004.cfm

Paul



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Re: How does CF Mail Server Work?

2004-09-27 Thread Matt Robertson
Paul Vernon wrote

 Matt (MySecretBase) has updated his throttling articles which can be found
 here...

Paul discreetly doesn't mention it but there is very likely a way to
use his very inexpensive CFX_ValidEmail to help with determining your
mail issues as well.It has a way of reaching out to the destination
mail server and figuring out if an address is going to accept mail. 
Coupled to the slow-speed trickler bit I use, there shouldn't be any
issues associated with this sort of extended validation.

As soon as I get the time I'm building it into my own CMS' trickler as
an optional add-on.I plan on keeping a separate list of failures
and, once an address crosses the threshold of X failures, doing
something to ban the address.

Cheers,

-- 
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MSB Designs, Inc.
mysecretbase.com
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Re: Reply-To Header observance

2004-09-27 Thread Scott Brady
- Original Message -
From: Jochem van Dieten 
Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 02:11:20 +0200

 That is no protection against relaying, there is a reason why all 
 the standard relay tests use addresses from a local domain. 
 Everybody can fake an email address (isn't that what you are 
 doing yourself?).

No, we're using a real address.The mail server is set to require a
real account (which is why the from address is
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - that's a real account). Of course,
that doesn't prevent spammers from trying to use our domain with that
e-mail address (which is probably a pretty common account name).

 
 Fix your mailserver, it is easier.

 
For now, the mail server isn't under out control.I've only recently
joined the company, but aparently the relay setting is a fairly recent
one.In the next two months, we're changing hosts and to a dedicated
hosting solution (where we'll have more control).From what I
understand, our current settings are much like any other prevent
relay settings that I'm aware of, where the from addresses have to be
actual accounts.

Based on what you've said, my guess is that MS Exchange is the
culprit.For now, we can put a message in each e-mail saying
something like, If replying, please make sure the To: address is
[EMAIL PROTECTED].When we have more control over the mail
servers, we can look into requiring authentication (we're on CF 5 and
are transitioning to MX 6.1 with the new host, so authentication is an
option).

Thanks!

Scott
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Development CFMail

2004-09-27 Thread Burns, John D
Hey everyone, I have a quick question that I thought of with all of the
talk about how the CFMAil server works.I am trying to come up with a
good way to set up an SMTP server on my development server where I can
use CFMAIL to send email so the app won't choke but some how force it to
go to a certain mailbox that is already existent on that mail server
(while keeping the original email address as the to account).
Basically, I want to make a Catch-All email account that will receive
any mail sent from that CF server so I can test mass email systems and
other CFMAIL functionality without actually sending to the real people,
but I do want to see that the SMTP server is handling things correctly.
Does that make sense?Any ideas?

John 

-Original Message-
From: B G [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 2:01 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: How does CF Mail Server Work?

In the past I have used something similar to throttle emails that are
sent.
With CFMX I it wasn't necessary as it was in previous versions.Maybe
it's time to bring it back.

My IT guy who has dealt with similar AOL issues has indicated that he
never got a clear answer from AOL on what would trigger email being
blocked.He even seemed to indicate that it can depend on which server
of their cluster happens to handle your emails.Sometimes it gets
blocked, other times not.

Has anyone seen a good resource that might indicate how many is too many
for AOL and others in a bulk email?

Thanks.

From: Paul Vernon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: How does CF Mail Server Work?
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 16:42:09 +0100

You may want to look at throttling down CFMX sending out mails to AOL 
or MSN and some of the other larger mail providers.

High numbers of mails originating from the same IP look like spam so a 
single mail can get through but bulk is blocked... To get around this, 
you need to slow down how you send to these companies

Matt (MySecretBase) has updated his throttling articles which can be 
found here...

http://mysecretbase.com/Slowing_Down_CFMAIL.cfm

http://mysecretbase.com/Slowing_Down_CFMail_2004.cfm

Paul



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Re: Losing Form Scope

2004-09-27 Thread Stan Winchester
Dave,

Thanks for suggesting ieHTTPHeaders! It showed me exactly what was happening and I was able to fix it. 

Thanks, Stan

 I have had that happen to me once. Don't know your exact situation, 
 but if you are posting to HTTPS with a buggy version of IE, it doesn't 
 send the post data to the web server.
 
 http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=831167
 
 I'd recommend installing either ieHTTPHeaders (http://www.blunck.
 info/iehttpheaders.html) for IE or LiveHTTPHeaders 
 (http://livehttpheaders.mozdev.org/) for Firefox/Mozilla. Both are 
 plugins to their respective browsers so you can see the HTTP 
 transactions that are going on. Might give you some insight, helped me 
 in finding out about the IE bug above.
 
 I have a form that is submitting to an action page, but for some 
 reason when
 the action page loads the form scope is gone, so when I look at the
 debugging information under Scope Variables the entire Form 
 Fields:
 section is not even listed. This happens on the live CF5 server and 
 my local
 CFMX development server.
 
  
 
 form action="" method=post
 
 input type=hidden name=CorpOK value=true
 
 input type=hidden .
 
 input type=submit
 
  value=YES - Extend the Ad Account
 
  class=button
 
 /form
 
  
 
 Has anyone seen anything like this before?
 
  
 
 Thank you,
 
 Stan 
Winchester
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Re: How does CF Mail Server Work?

2004-09-27 Thread Howie Hamlin
We joined the AOL whitelist program which allows us to send mail there w/o worrying about getting blocked because of volume.You may want to look into it.

HTH,

-- 
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On-Line Data Solutions, Inc. - www.CoolFusion.com
inFusion Mail Server (iMS) - The Award-winning, Intelligent Mail Server
PrismAV - Virus scanning for ColdFusion applications
 Find out how iMS Stacks up to the competition: http://www.coolfusion.com/imssecomparison.cfm

- Original Message - 
From: B G 
To: CF-Talk 
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 2:00 PM
Subject: RE: How does CF Mail Server Work?

In the past I have used something similar to throttle emails that are sent.
With CFMX I it wasn't necessary as it was in previous versions.Maybe it's 
time to bring it back.

My IT guy who has dealt with similar AOL issues has indicated that he never 
got a clear answer from AOL on what would trigger email being blocked.He 
even seemed to indicate that it can depend on which server of their cluster 
happens to handle your emails.Sometimes it gets blocked, other times not.

Has anyone seen a good resource that might indicate how many is too many for 
AOL and others in a bulk email?

Thanks.
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CF Quiz Database based

2004-09-27 Thread Web Specialist
Hi

I need to build a quiz based in DB questions whith random questions. Looks like:

1) DB haves 75 questions

2) When user clicks in Start Quiz, only random and unique 25 questions need to show

3) After choice users will know your Score... 

DB structure is up;
Get 25 questions is up;
25 steps form is up;
Score after every choice... down ;-(

My question:

How to know, after every answer, that answer looks right or not?

Thanx in advance.

p.s.: do you know any real CF Quiz example?
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RE: How does CF Mail Server Work?

2004-09-27 Thread Burns, John D
Do you have any links with info on that?

John Burns 

-Original Message-
From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 2:15 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: How does CF Mail Server Work?

We joined the AOL whitelist program which allows us to send mail there
w/o worrying about getting blocked because of volume.You may want to
look into it.

HTH,

--
Howie Hamlin - inFusion Project Manager
On-Line Data Solutions, Inc. - www.CoolFusion.com inFusion Mail Server
(iMS) - The Award-winning, Intelligent Mail Server PrismAV - Virus
scanning for ColdFusion applications
 Find out how iMS Stacks up to the competition: 
 http://www.coolfusion.com/imssecomparison.cfm

- Original Message - 
From: B G 
To: CF-Talk 
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 2:00 PM
Subject: RE: How does CF Mail Server Work?

In the past I have used something similar to throttle emails that are
sent.
With CFMX I it wasn't necessary as it was in previous versions.Maybe
it's 
time to bring it back.

My IT guy who has dealt with similar AOL issues has indicated that he
never 
got a clear answer from AOL on what would trigger email being blocked.
He 
even seemed to indicate that it can depend on which server of their
cluster 
happens to handle your emails.Sometimes it gets blocked, other times
not.

Has anyone seen a good resource that might indicate how many is too
many for 
AOL and others in a bulk email?

Thanks.
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Re: Development CFMail

2004-09-27 Thread Howie Hamlin
You can download and install the developer version of iMS.That gives you:

Mail sending engine
Mail receiving engine
SMTP test server (this is a test smtp server that will accept mail for any account and log the information for you to analyze)
SMTP test console for testing mail sending to any email server

...plus a few other goodies.

You can download the software from our web site and request a developer license here:

http://www.coolfusion.com/developers/

HTH,

-- 
Howie Hamlin - inFusion Project Manager
On-Line Data Solutions, Inc. - www.CoolFusion.com
inFusion Mail Server (iMS) - The Award-winning, Intelligent Mail Server
PrismAV - Virus scanning for ColdFusion applications
 Find out how iMS Stacks up to the competition: http://www.coolfusion.com/imssecomparison.cfm

- Original Message - 
From: Burns, John D 
To: CF-Talk 
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 2:14 PM
Subject: *Spam* Development CFMail

Hey everyone, I have a quick question that I thought of with all of the
talk about how the CFMAil server works.I am trying to come up with a
good way to set up an SMTP server on my development server where I can
use CFMAIL to send email so the app won't choke but some how force it to
go to a certain mailbox that is already existent on that mail server
(while keeping the original email address as the to account).
Basically, I want to make a Catch-All email account that will receive
any mail sent from that CF server so I can test mass email systems and
other CFMAIL functionality without actually sending to the real people,
but I do want to see that the SMTP server is handling things correctly.
Does that make sense?Any ideas?

John 

-Original Message-
From: B G [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 2:01 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: How does CF Mail Server Work?

In the past I have used something similar to throttle emails that are
sent.
With CFMX I it wasn't necessary as it was in previous versions.Maybe
it's time to bring it back.

My IT guy who has dealt with similar AOL issues has indicated that he
never got a clear answer from AOL on what would trigger email being
blocked.He even seemed to indicate that it can depend on which server
of their cluster happens to handle your emails.Sometimes it gets
blocked, other times not.

Has anyone seen a good resource that might indicate how many is too many
for AOL and others in a bulk email?

Thanks.

From: Paul Vernon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: How does CF Mail Server Work?
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 16:42:09 +0100

You may want to look at throttling down CFMX sending out mails to AOL 
or MSN and some of the other larger mail providers.

High numbers of mails originating from the same IP look like spam so a 
single mail can get through but bulk is blocked... To get around this, 
you need to slow down how you send to these companies

Matt (MySecretBase) has updated his throttling articles which can be 
found here...

http://mysecretbase.com/Slowing_Down_CFMAIL.cfm

http://mysecretbase.com/Slowing_Down_CFMail_2004.cfm

Paul



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Re: CF Quiz Database based

2004-09-27 Thread Bryan Stevenson
I guess that all depends on what a right answer looks like ;-)

Can you be more specific?

Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
VP  Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
phone: 250.480.0642
fax: 250.480.1264
cell: 250.920.8830
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
web: www.electricedgesystems.com
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RE: How does CF Mail Server Work?

2004-09-27 Thread Howie Hamlin
The main info page is here:

http://postmaster.info.aol.com/

The whitelist signup info is here:

http://postmaster.info.aol.com/whitelist/index.html

HTH,

-- 
Howie Hamlin - inFusion Project Manager
On-Line Data Solutions, Inc. - www.CoolFusion.com
inFusion Mail Server (iMS) - The Award-winning, Intelligent Mail Server
PrismAV - Virus scanning for ColdFusion applications
 Find out how iMS Stacks up to the competition: http://www.coolfusion.com/imssecomparison.cfm

- Original Message - 
From: Burns, John D 
To: CF-Talk 
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 2:17 PM
Subject: *Spam* RE: How does CF Mail Server Work?

Do you have any links with info on that?

John Burns
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Re: CF Quiz Database based

2004-09-27 Thread Ray Champagne
Can you post a link to what you have so far so that we could see it in 
action?I think a little perspective might help us solve your problem better.

Ray

At 03:19 PM 9/27/2004, you wrote:
Hi

I need to build a quiz based in DB questions whith random questions. Looks 
like:

1) DB haves 75 questions

2) When user clicks in Start Quiz, only random and unique 25 questions 
need to show

3) After choice users will know your Score...


DB structure is up;
Get 25 questions is up;
25 steps form is up;
Score after every choice... down ;-(

My question:

How to know, after every answer, that answer looks right or not?

Thanx in advance.

p.s.: do you know any real CF Quiz example?


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Re: How does CF Mail Server Work?

2004-09-27 Thread B G
Interesting.That should shed some light.

From: Matt Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: How does CF Mail Server Work?
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 11:04:31 -0700

Paul Vernon wrote

  Matt (MySecretBase) has updated his throttling articles which can be 
found
  here...

Paul discreetly doesn't mention it but there is very likely a way to
use his very inexpensive CFX_ValidEmail to help with determining your
mail issues as well.It has a way of reaching out to the destination
mail server and figuring out if an address is going to accept mail.
Coupled to the slow-speed trickler bit I use, there shouldn't be any
issues associated with this sort of extended validation.

As soon as I get the time I'm building it into my own CMS' trickler as
an optional add-on.I plan on keeping a separate list of failures
and, once an address crosses the threshold of X failures, doing
something to ban the address.

Cheers,

--
--Matt Robertson--
MSB Designs, Inc.
mysecretbase.com


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Re: Database Management Tool

2004-09-27 Thread Ben Frame
I've never used this particular application, but if you also have PHP
support in your web instance, you may be able to use a PHP program to
manage your Oracle DB for use with CF.

A quick google search yielded this link...
http://phporacleadmin.org/

-Ben

- Original Message -
From: daniel kessler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 09:22:22 -0400
Subject: Re: Database Management Tool
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 It asked for my Service, 
 which is a common question here.It appears to not be my DB name, 
 which is eatsmart. -- cut ---.It says no service found.

 If the DB belongs to your hosting company, you probably can not 
 access
 the DB beyond localhost. This means that the only way to gain access
 is through any CF/php/asp pages...
 What you are really looking for is an equivalent to phpmyadmin

Yes!exactly!

 written in ColdFusion
 and setup specifically for Oracle databases. 

Yes, this is my intent.thanks for clarifying.Anyone know of any of these?
If it's worth it, I may even use my own money, thoug right now that's
limited to the change in my pocket and a few $1
bills.
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RE: How does CF Mail Server Work?

2004-09-27 Thread B G
Thanks!

From: Howie Hamlin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: How does CF Mail Server Work?
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 14:22:44 -0400

The main info page is here:

http://postmaster.info.aol.com/

The whitelist signup info is here:

http://postmaster.info.aol.com/whitelist/index.html

HTH,

--
Howie Hamlin - inFusion Project Manager
On-Line Data Solutions, Inc. - www.CoolFusion.com
inFusion Mail Server (iMS) - The Award-winning, Intelligent Mail Server
PrismAV - Virus scanning for ColdFusion applications
  Find out how iMS Stacks up to the competition: 
http://www.coolfusion.com/imssecomparison.cfm


- Original Message -
From: Burns, John D
To: CF-Talk
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 2:17 PM
Subject: *Spam* RE: How does CF Mail Server Work?


Do you have any links with info on that?

John Burns



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translating java to CF

2004-09-27 Thread Joshua OConnor-Rose
so if the header in Java says this:
-
import com.sforce.soap.enterprise.sobject.Account;

and then the code does this to create the object:

Account account1 = new Account(); 
-
Oh and I'm using SOAP
In CF I use
cfset this.sfdc =
createObject(webservice,arguments.wsdluri) /

How can I generate the Account object in CF.

And it seems that I can't access the Account object
(class?) at all or maybe I'm just being dumb.

This doesn't work:
cfset accountobj =
createObject(java,com.sforce.soap.enterprise.sobject.Account)
/

I can access the methods of the soap object.
com.sforce.soap.enterprise.SoapBindingStub

Am I missing something basic?

-Joshua O'Connor-Rose
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Re: Reply-To Header observance

2004-09-27 Thread Matt Robertson
 From what I
 understand, our current settings are much like any other prevent
 relay settings that I'm aware of, where the from addresses have to be
 actual accounts.

As Jochem has pointed out, this is absolutely no protection whatsoever
against relaying.Either there is more to this than you are aware of
or the mail server admin isn't aware of how mail servers work.

To protect against relaying, you have to enable -- and enforce -- SMTP
AUTH:every sent mail message has to be authenticated with the
correct username and password for the sending account.CF 6.1 finally
supports this, but earlier versions didn't; necessitating -- typically
-- the allowance of mail traffic from the cf server's IP (which
hopefully is inside a single local network) without authentication.

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Be aware of Ad blocking on Kerio Personal Firewall

2004-09-27 Thread Stan Winchester
I found an interesting off topic issue that drove me nuts that I thought
might interest many of you. 

I have a client who uses Kerio personal firewall with ad blocking enabled.
What was happening was any page, directory, or file name where any for the
following regex conditions was true a page or images would not load. 

Http path on server:

.*adframe.*

.*/ad-handler/.*

.*[bB]anner.?/.*

.*/please/showit/.*

.*/popup.?/.*

.*/reklama/.*

.*/ad[isx0-9]?[/?]/.*

/r/.*

/content.*

Drive letter path on server:

.*\.doubleclick.\.*

.*\.gator.\.*com

.*\.adserv.\.*

1.*\.im.\.cz

ad([isx0-9].*)?\..*\..*

ar.*\.atwola.\.com

I have found the above has affected serveral clients who use legitimate ads
on their sites that are getting blocked, so we have to do some reworking to
get around Kerio.

Cheers, 

Stan
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Re: translating java to CF

2004-09-27 Thread Sean Corfield
Have you added the compiled Java class files to your CFMX class path?

On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 13:21:10 -0700 (PDT), Joshua OConnor-Rose
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 so if the header in Java says this:
 -
 import com.sforce.soap.enterprise.sobject.Account;
 
 and then the code does this to create the object:
 
 Account account1 = new Account();
 -
 Oh and I'm using SOAP
 In CF I use
 cfset this.sfdc =
 createObject(webservice,arguments.wsdluri) /
 
 How can I generate the Account object in CF.
 
 And it seems that I can't access the Account object
 (class?) at all or maybe I'm just being dumb.
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Re: translating java to CF

2004-09-27 Thread Joshua OConnor-Rose
Just the guy I wanted to hear from.

We have not. I have a bunch of generated .java files
from the sforce web site and I am suggesting that we
just use those. Is that the direction I should take
with this?

It seems to me to be the obvious choice. In fact would
adding all the generated java files be a good thing?
Since I seem to be only having problems with
generating the objects.

Actualy we are right now fighting with dreamweaver and
a proxy generator to look at sforces wsdl file.

-Joshua O'Connor-Rose
-All is Good

--- Sean Corfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Have you added the compiled Java class files to your
 CFMX class path?
 
 On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 13:21:10 -0700 (PDT), Joshua
 OConnor-Rose
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  so if the header in Java says this:
  -
  import com.sforce.soap.enterprise.sobject.Account;
  
  and then the code does this to create the object:
  
  Account account1 = new Account();
  -
  Oh and I'm using SOAP
  In CF I use
  cfset this.sfdc =
  createObject(webservice,arguments.wsdluri) /
  
  How can I generate the Account object in CF.
  
  And it seems that I can't access the Account
 object
  (class?) at all or maybe I'm just being dumb.
 

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Re: Reply-To Header observance

2004-09-27 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Scott Brady wrote:
 - Original Message -
 From: Jochem van Dieten 
 Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 02:11:20 +0200
 
 That is no protection against relaying, there is a reason why all 
 the standard relay tests use addresses from a local domain. 
 Everybody can fake an email address (isn't that what you are 
 doing yourself?).
 
 No, we're using a real address.The mail server is set to require a
 real account (which is why the from address is
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - that's a real account). Of course,
 that doesn't prevent spammers from trying to use our domain with that
 e-mail address (which is probably a pretty common account name).

[EMAIL PROTECTED] is required to exist. So if that is all, 
there is a 100% guaranteed way to bypass your relay 'protection'.

 Fix your mailserver, it is easier.

 For now, the mail server isn't under out control.I've only recently
 joined the company, but aparently the relay setting is a fairly recent
 one.In the next two months, we're changing hosts and to a dedicated
 hosting solution (where we'll have more control).From what I
 understand, our current settings are much like any other prevent
 relay settings that I'm aware of, where the from addresses have to be
 actual accounts.

Relay settings are almost always:
- allow if from our IP space
- allow if authenticated

The from address is fakeable and thus not an acceptable way to 
authenticate.

 Based on what you've said, my guess is that MS Exchange is the
 culprit.

Close port 25 on the CF machine for everything except localhost 
using a firewall, then run IIS SMTP on it and relay your email 
through there.

Jochem
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Re: Reply-To Header observance

2004-09-27 Thread Scott Brady
- Original Message -
From: Matt Robertson 
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 13:22:19 -0700

 As Jochem has pointed out, this is absolutely no protection whatsoever
 against relaying.Either there is more to this than you are aware of
 or the mail server admin isn't aware of how mail servers work.

 
 To protect against relaying, you have to enable -- and enforce -- SMTP
 AUTH:every sent mail message has to be authenticated with the
 correct username and password for the sending account.CF 6.1 finally
 supports this, but earlier versions didn't; necessitating -- typically
 -- the allowance of mail traffic from the cf server's IP (which
 hopefully is inside a single local network) without authentication.

 
This is off the topic of the reply-to headers, but it seems to me that
it does provide SOME protection from relaying (which may not be the
right term, but it fits the error message IIS sends back to CF).Our
system is similar to the way CrystalTech has their shared hosting. 
Any outgoing e-mail has to come from an actual e-mail account on the
server.While this doesn't prevent spammers from guessing a correct'
address to send e-mail from, it does prevent them from using something
like [EMAIL PROTECTED] to send mail through your server.It's not
full SMTP authentication, of course, but it does provide some
protection.

(The error message from CrystalTech's system [our system isn't on CT,
but my freelance stuff is] when the from address isn't an actual
account on the server is something like, Mail Server does not relay,
which is why I'm using the term relay)

Which is all I was saying before.It does provide some protection,
and since we haven't transitioned to MX yet, it's about all the
protection we can have right now.

Of course, that doesn't mean our server admin knows what he's doing,
either (based on his CF code and the fact that they have a production
environment running in single-threaded mode, I do have my doubts). 
This is one of the reasons we're taking control of the servers.

Scott

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Re: Reply-To Header observance

2004-09-27 Thread Scott Brady
- Original Message -
From: Jochem van Dieten 
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 23:34:58 +0200

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] is required to exist. So if that is all, 
 there is a 100% guaranteed way to bypass your relay 'protection'.

Yes,I understand that.As I said in a reply I just posted (which
you haven't seen yet), I'm not saying it's foolproof protection.But,
it does at least prevent them from using other domain names in the
e-mail. It's not perfect, but it's ok for now.

 
 Close port 25 on the CF machine for everything except localhost 
 using a firewall, then run IIS SMTP on it and relay your email 
 through there.

As I said before, we don't have that type of control over the system
right now.We'll have more control over it with the next host.

I'll look into seeing why we're using the method we are, but I'm new
on this project and that change occurred before I got here.

Scott

 
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Re: translating java to CF

2004-09-27 Thread Sean Corfield
On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 13:58:46 -0700 (PDT), Joshua OConnor-Rose
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 We have not. I have a bunch of generated .java files
 from the sforce web site and I am suggesting that we
 just use those. Is that the direction I should take
 with this?

You would need to compile those and put them in CFMX's classpath.
Doesn't sforce.com have a precompiled JAR of the objects? Easier to
put that on the classpath. Either way, CFMX needs to be able to load
the sforce.com objects in order for you to be able to create those
objects...
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Re: Database Management Tool

2004-09-27 Thread Adrocknaphobia
Get a new host.

- Original Message -
From: daniel kessler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 08:48:58 -0400
Subject: Re: Database Management Tool
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Well, I don't know alot about DBs, really.It asked for my Service,
which is a common question here.It appears to not be my DB name,
which is eatsmart.I tried that as a domain with eatsmart.umd.edu
since umd is my webhosting group.It says no service found.

Also, none of these tools seem built on CF which I'm told by
webhosting is my only DB entry-point.

You can't use TOAD or SQL*Plus?

-Adam


- Original Message -
From: Daniel Kessler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 15:32:58 -0400
Subject: Database Management Tool
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I'm only allowed to access our Oracle DBs through CF.So, I was 
wondering if there was a DB management tool built on CF that I could 
drop into my site (free is best since I have no budget here, but I 
would like to know either way).
I want to be able to edit information in tables and other basic 
functions - nothin fancy schmancy.I just want to give it a 
datasource and go.
I did a search on database management tools and it returned very little.

thanks!

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University of Maryland
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College Park, MD20742-2611
301-405-2545 Phone
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Re: Database Management Tool

2004-09-27 Thread Adrocknaphobia
Sorry, let me be a bit more helpful.

You should get a new host because it seems like they are keeping you
out of the database for security issues. Any CF tool you can get to
manage an oracle database will need to run on an account that has mad
permissions. They are more likely to give you access via TOAD than to
grant you DBA privs so a web based tool will work.

-Adam

On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 18:54:11 -0400, Adrocknaphobia
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Get a new host.
 
 
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: daniel kessler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 08:48:58 -0400
 Subject: Re: Database Management Tool
 To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Well, I don't know alot about DBs, really.It asked for my Service,
 which is a common question here.It appears to not be my DB name,
 which is eatsmart.I tried that as a domain with eatsmart.umd.edu
 since umd is my webhosting group.It says no service found.
 
 Also, none of these tools seem built on CF which I'm told by
 webhosting is my only DB entry-point.
 
 You can't use TOAD or SQL*Plus?
 
 -Adam
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Daniel Kessler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 15:32:58 -0400
 Subject: Database Management Tool
 To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 I'm only allowed to access our Oracle DBs through CF.So, I was
 wondering if there was a DB management tool built on CF that I could
 drop into my site (free is best since I have no budget here, but I
 would like to know either way).
 I want to be able to edit information in tables and other basic
 functions - nothin fancy schmancy.I just want to give it a
 datasource and go.
 I did a search on database management tools and it returned very little.
 
 thanks!
 
 --
 Daniel Kessler
 
 Department of Public and Community Health
 University of Maryland
 Suite 2387 Valley Drive
 College Park, MD20742-2611
 301-405-2545 Phone
 www.phi.umd.edu

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RE: Including a template over the network fails

2004-09-27 Thread Brook Davies
Dave,

I think that was the problem. I had a mapping set up, but the script was 
not using it - thank you!!!

Life goes on

Brook

At 07:35 AM 9/26/2004, you wrote:
  I just set up our site in a cluster and am using a NAS unit for storing
  some files. At one point I write a file (a cfm file) to the NAS unit and
  then try to include it to execute the code that was written in it. I get
  an error saying the file does not exist, even though it does. I tested
  this code below and if I can use CFFILE to read the file no problem, I
  can write the file, but I can not CFINCLUDE It. What would cause that??

Did you create a mapping to point to that directory? CFINCLUDE doesn't use
filesystem paths to reference files that aren't in a web-accessible
directory.

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http://www.figleaf.com/
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fax: 202-797-5444

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Re: Be aware of Ad blocking on Kerio Personal Firewall

2004-09-27 Thread Rick Root
I work for Duke University's Alumni  Development systems.ADS.Our 
web site, www.ads.duke.edu is blocked by some ad-blocking software. 
We're about to change to it.dev.duke.edu =)

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Grouping Output Query Display

2004-09-27 Thread Mark Henderson
So I have a query that's outputted and grouped by a particular column. In this case it's a meeting agenda grouped by month, which is what I want and this part is working fine. The problem is that in the output there are several instances of the date column that are repeated, and I'd prefer it to only output the first instance in this case. A little ASCII art of exactly what's in the output might help...

 
Meeting Agenda for the month of September 2004	
---
Tuesday the 14th	4:00pmOperations
Tuesday the 14th	4:00pmRegulatory and Planning	
Tuesday the 14th	4:00pmFinance and Policy	
Tuesday the 28th	7:30pmCouncil

Meeting Agenda for the month of October 2004	

Tuesday the 14th4:00pmOperations	
Tuesday the 14th4:00pmRegulatory and Planning	
Tuesday the 14th4:00pmFinance and Policy	
Tuesday the 28th7:30pmCouncil

etc etc

I'd like it to look like

Meeting Agenda for the month of September 2004	
-
Tuesday the 14th4:00pmOperations	
	 Regulatory and Planning	
	 Finance and Policy	
Tuesday the 28th7:30pmCouncil

Is there any way to achieve this?

Here is the relegant parts of my query and dsp page...

cfquery datasource=#request.dsn# name=meetingAgenda
SELECT 	
 meeting_ID,month,date,time,year,comment,agenda
FROM 		
 meeting_agenda
/cfquery

cfoutput query=meetingAgenda group=month
cfif meetingAgenda.recordcount GT 0
cfset thisrow = 1
table id=meetingAgenda
 tr class=title
td colspan=3Meeting Agenda for the month of #month# #year#/td
 /tr
 cfoutput
 tr bgcolor=#IIf(thisrow Mod 2, DE('ff'), DE('ee'))#
td#date#/td
td#time#/td
td#agenda#/td
 /tr
 cfset thisrow = thisrow + 1
/cfoutput
/tablebr /
/cfif
/cfoutput 

TIA
Regards
Mark H
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RE: Grouping Output Query Display

2004-09-27 Thread James Holmes
Nest another group to the output for the meeting, like you did for the
month.
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RE: Grouping Output Query Display

2004-09-27 Thread Mark Henderson
hi James, 
I already tried that but it's possible I screwed it up...

I tried
cfoutput query=meetingAgenda group=month
cfif meetingAgenda.recordcount GT 0
cfset thisrow = 1
table id=meetingAgenda
 tr class=title
td colspan=3Meeting Agenda #month# #year#/td
 /tr
 cfoutput group=date
 tr bgcolor=#IIf(thisrow Mod 2, DE('ff'), DE('ee'))#
td#date#/td
td#time#/td
td#agenda#/td
 /tr
 /cfoutput
/tablebr /
cfset thisrow = thisrow + 1
/cfif
/cfoutput 

which outputs 

Meeting Agenda August 2004

Tuesday the 10th 4:00pm Operations	
Tuesday the 24th 7:30pm Council

and cuts off all the other Tuesday the 10th entries

adieu
MarkH
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RE: Grouping Output Query Display

2004-09-27 Thread James Holmes
Almost; write one row for the Meeting Date / timeand then use your final
cfoutput with no group to write each agendum in subsequent rows (the thisrow
increment won't be in the right place now but you'll figure it out - you
might instead use meetingAgenda.CurrentRow but it depends on exact;y what
bits need to alternate in colour).

cfoutput query=meetingAgenda group=month cfif
meetingAgenda.recordcount GT 0
cfset thisrow = 1
table id=meetingAgenda
 tr class=title
td colspan=3Meeting Agenda #month# #year#/td
 /tr
 cfoutput group=date
 tr
td#date#/td
td#time#/td
tdnbsp;/td
 /tr
 cfoutput
tr bgcolor=#IIf(thisrow Mod 2, DE('ff'), DE('ee'))#
tdnbsp;/td
tdnbsp;/td
td#agenda#/td
/tr
 /cfoutput
 /cfoutput
/tablebr /
cfset thisrow = thisrow + 1
/cfif
/cfoutput
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RE: Grouping Output Query Display

2004-09-27 Thread Mark Henderson
Perfect
I'd actually simplified it down and had it working (outside of using tables for layout)
like so..

cfoutput query=meetingAgenda group=month
h2#month#/h2
cfoutput group=date
 h3#date#/h3
cfoutput
#time# - #agenda#br /
/cfoutput
br /br /
/cfoutput
/cfoutput

but you've kept it in tables for me with the correct display. The alternating colours are no big deal, and I've sorted that one out already. And lastly, thank you.

adieu
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2004-09-27 Thread Michael Smith
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RE: Be aware of Ad blocking on Kerio Personal Firewall

2004-09-27 Thread Jim Davis
This is pretty common - Norton does something similar.They add a wrinkle
that any image (ANY image) that is the same dimensions as common ads are
suppressed.It doesn't have to be an ad.

Also note that ad blockers try to block ads - there's really no such thing
as legitimate ads to those tools.It quacks like a duck, swims like a
duck and flies like a duck. well then it's a duck and it'll get through.
But if it's an ad they'll (at least try and) stop it.;^)

Jim Davis

From: Stan Winchester [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 4:47 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Be aware of Ad blocking on Kerio Personal Firewall

I found an interesting off topic issue that drove me nuts that I thought
might interest many of you. 

I have a client who uses Kerio personal firewall with ad blocking enabled.
What was happening was any page, directory, or file name where any for the
following regex conditions was true a page or images would not load.
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