RE: CF Studio 5

2006-06-04 Thread dave
shouldn't be, I got it earlier today

~Dave the disruptor~ 


From: "Russ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 1:12 AM
To: CF-Talk 
Subject: RE: CF Studio 5 

I always download the plugin manually... weird thing though... couldn't get
the latest nightly build to work... is it currently broken?

> -Original Message-
> From: Eric Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 12:53 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: CF Studio 5
> 
> Something else I just found...last night I went to d/l it and got eclipse
> installed. Went to get cfeclipse through the recommended process and it
> said that there were no updates (fresh install of eclipse with no
> cfeclipse)
> Was there a prob with the server last night? I ended up just downloading
> the plugin and adding it manually.
> 
> Eric
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Mark Drew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, 04 June 2006 05:10
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: CF Studio 5
> 
> I must say I havent touched it, it used to work, I never needed it myself
> (different deployment process)
> 
> I want Adobe to release the API to the RDS plugin so I can do more of a
> team
> synchronising with RDS servers and the same with FTP. More like how
> Dreamweaver does it.
> 
> There are SO many features I am sure people want, if we get more
> contributors to the project then we can get it done.
> 
> MD
> 
> 
> On 4 Jun 2006, at 02:56, Eric Roberts wrote:
> 
> > I never could get the FTP to work on cfeclipse. I always has to use
> > an ftp program to upload my files if they were on a remote machine.
> > Has that been fixed/improved mark?
> >
> > Eric
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Saturday, 03 June 2006 19:51
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Re: CF Studio 5
> >
> > Ok well there would be more than 13 but the point is just as you say,
> > they won't be doing something that they lose a ton of money on which
> > pretty much means there aren't enough people buying it to justify it.
> >
> > Personally, I thought setting hs up was a pita kinda like how eclipse
> > is now and to me they both have similar problems, the main one for me
> > is that if i am doing css stuff then I gotta upload every change and
> > then go browse it to see wtf is going on and then I gotta go to a pc
> > to see how bad ie broke it.
> > At least in dw it cuts most of that out.
> >
> > And ftp is such a problem with both
> >
> > ~Dave the disruptor~
> >
> > 
> > From: Rey Bango 
> > Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 7:50 PM
> > To: CF-Talk 
> > Subject: Re: CF Studio 5
> >
> > dave wrote:
> >> And why would Adobe add it? It's done, gone and I doubt they will
> >> bring it
> > back for the 13 people who want it.
> >
> > I would venture to say that there are quite a bit more than 13 people
> > that use it. I know of plenty that still love it. But I don't see
> > Adobe ever restarting development on a non-money making product.
> >
> > Rey...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 



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Re: CF Studio 5

2006-06-04 Thread dave
No i was "trying" to use the standard one.
I don't mind waiting for it to get right because apparently I must have a 
"magic" copy of dw that doesn't bring my puter to it's knees ;)~ maybe its just 
the os i use (just to egg on mohawk boy)

~Dave the disruptor~ 


From: "Denny Valliant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 12:13 AM
To: CF-Talk 
Subject: Re: CF Studio 5 

On 6/4/06, dave  wrote:
>
> no, i cant even get the latest build to reconize it or the css plugin, i
> did put in the nightly build of cfe but its not showing up in the updater
> either.

Is there a css plugin with cfe? I didn't think so... are you talking about
webtools? Or MyEclipse?

The nightly shouldn't show up in the updater, but it should list the version
in the: help > software updates > manage config.
I might be confused though (re: css plugin ;).

When I asked if you'd tried the eclipse team ftp plugin you said "yup", I
assume it wouldn't connect to your server? Too bad, I love how it syncs the
files and compares and all that. But I don't use ftp, bleh, I refuse to run
it as a service even.

It looks like maybe some interest is gathering on the eclipse side for
better SSH and yes, FTP support, so give it a little time, and you'll be
pleasantly surprised. There is also the RSE plugin, gathering steam, I
tried it, and it's linking up files and providing SSH terminals. Woot.

Makes me feel all warm inside.
:D



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RE: CF Studio 5

2006-06-04 Thread dave
I ran into this as well before and as it turned out almost all the links were 
wrong on peoples sites and as soon as the new link was entered it was fine. Of 
course I forget what that link is now.

~Dave the disruptor~ 


From: "Eric Roberts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 12:52 AM
To: CF-Talk 
Subject: RE: CF Studio 5 

Something else I just found...last night I went to d/l it and got eclipse
installed. Went to get cfeclipse through the recommended process and it
said that there were no updates (fresh install of eclipse with no cfeclipse)
Was there a prob with the server last night? I ended up just downloading
the plugin and adding it manually.

Eric 

-Original Message-
From: Mark Drew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, 04 June 2006 05:10
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF Studio 5

I must say I havent touched it, it used to work, I never needed it myself
(different deployment process)

I want Adobe to release the API to the RDS plugin so I can do more of a team
synchronising with RDS servers and the same with FTP. More like how
Dreamweaver does it.

There are SO many features I am sure people want, if we get more
contributors to the project then we can get it done.

MD

On 4 Jun 2006, at 02:56, Eric Roberts wrote:

> I never could get the FTP to work on cfeclipse. I always has to use 
> an ftp program to upload my files if they were on a remote machine. 
> Has that been fixed/improved mark?
>
> Eric
>
> -Original Message-
> From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, 03 June 2006 19:51
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: CF Studio 5
>
> Ok well there would be more than 13 but the point is just as you say, 
> they won't be doing something that they lose a ton of money on which 
> pretty much means there aren't enough people buying it to justify it.
>
> Personally, I thought setting hs up was a pita kinda like how eclipse 
> is now and to me they both have similar problems, the main one for me 
> is that if i am doing css stuff then I gotta upload every change and 
> then go browse it to see wtf is going on and then I gotta go to a pc 
> to see how bad ie broke it.
> At least in dw it cuts most of that out.
>
> And ftp is such a problem with both
>
> ~Dave the disruptor~
>
> 
> From: Rey Bango 
> Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 7:50 PM
> To: CF-Talk 
> Subject: Re: CF Studio 5
>
> dave wrote:
>> And why would Adobe add it? It's done, gone and I doubt they will 
>> bring it
> back for the 13 people who want it.
>
> I would venture to say that there are quite a bit more than 13 people 
> that use it. I know of plenty that still love it. But I don't see 
> Adobe ever restarting development on a non-money making product.
>
> Rey...
>
>
>
>
>
> 



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RE: CF Studio 5

2006-06-04 Thread Russ
I always download the plugin manually... weird thing though... couldn't get
the latest nightly build to work... is it currently broken?

> -Original Message-
> From: Eric Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 12:53 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: CF Studio 5
> 
> Something else I just found...last night I went to d/l it and got eclipse
> installed.  Went to get cfeclipse through the recommended process and it
> said that there were no updates (fresh install of eclipse with no
> cfeclipse)
> Was there a prob with the server last night?  I ended up just downloading
> the plugin and adding it manually.
> 
> Eric
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Mark Drew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, 04 June 2006 05:10
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: CF Studio 5
> 
> I must say I havent touched it, it used to work, I never needed it myself
> (different deployment process)
> 
> I want Adobe to release the API to the RDS plugin so I can do more of a
> team
> synchronising with RDS servers and the same with FTP. More like how
> Dreamweaver does it.
> 
> There are SO many features I am sure people want, if we get more
> contributors to the project then we can get it done.
> 
> MD
> 
> 
> On 4 Jun 2006, at 02:56, Eric Roberts wrote:
> 
> > I never could get the FTP to work on cfeclipse.  I always has to use
> > an ftp program to upload my files if they were on a remote machine.
> > Has that been fixed/improved mark?
> >
> > Eric
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Saturday, 03 June 2006 19:51
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Re: CF Studio 5
> >
> > Ok well there would be more than 13 but the point is just as you say,
> > they won't be doing something that they lose a ton of money on which
> > pretty much means there aren't enough people buying it to justify it.
> >
> > Personally, I thought setting hs up was a pita kinda like how eclipse
> > is now and to me they both have similar problems, the main one for me
> > is that if i am doing css stuff then I gotta upload every change and
> > then go browse it to see wtf is going on and then I gotta go to a pc
> > to see how bad ie broke it.
> > At least in dw it cuts most of that out.
> >
> > And ftp is such a problem with both
> >
> > ~Dave the disruptor~
> >
> > 
> > From: Rey Bango <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 7:50 PM
> > To: CF-Talk 
> > Subject: Re: CF Studio 5
> >
> > dave wrote:
> >> And why would Adobe add it? It's done, gone and I doubt they will
> >> bring it
> > back for the 13 people who want it.
> >
> > I would venture to say that there are quite a bit more than 13 people
> > that use it. I know of plenty that still love it. But I don't see
> > Adobe ever restarting development on a non-money making product.
> >
> > Rey...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 

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Re: How to convert a number into date?

2006-06-04 Thread Paul Hastings
Johnny Le wrote:
> Wonder why they chose 1/1/1601 as the starting point.

because it's "the beginning of the last 400-year cycle by which leap-years are 
calculated in the Gregorian calendar, which was followed by a new 400-year 
cycle 
beginning with 2001".

http://www.decimaltime.hynes.net/computers.html#windows

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RE: CF Studio 5

2006-06-04 Thread Eric Roberts
Something else I just found...last night I went to d/l it and got eclipse
installed.  Went to get cfeclipse through the recommended process and it
said that there were no updates (fresh install of eclipse with no cfeclipse)
Was there a prob with the server last night?  I ended up just downloading
the plugin and adding it manually.

Eric 

-Original Message-
From: Mark Drew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, 04 June 2006 05:10
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF Studio 5

I must say I havent touched it, it used to work, I never needed it myself
(different deployment process)

I want Adobe to release the API to the RDS plugin so I can do more of a team
synchronising with RDS servers and the same with FTP. More like how
Dreamweaver does it.

There are SO many features I am sure people want, if we get more
contributors to the project then we can get it done.

MD


On 4 Jun 2006, at 02:56, Eric Roberts wrote:

> I never could get the FTP to work on cfeclipse.  I always has to use 
> an ftp program to upload my files if they were on a remote machine.  
> Has that been fixed/improved mark?
>
> Eric
>
> -Original Message-
> From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, 03 June 2006 19:51
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: CF Studio 5
>
> Ok well there would be more than 13 but the point is just as you say, 
> they won't be doing something that they lose a ton of money on which 
> pretty much means there aren't enough people buying it to justify it.
>
> Personally, I thought setting hs up was a pita kinda like how eclipse 
> is now and to me they both have similar problems, the main one for me 
> is that if i am doing css stuff then I gotta upload every change and 
> then go browse it to see wtf is going on and then I gotta go to a pc 
> to see how bad ie broke it.
> At least in dw it cuts most of that out.
>
> And ftp is such a problem with both
>
> ~Dave the disruptor~
>
> 
> From: Rey Bango <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 7:50 PM
> To: CF-Talk 
> Subject: Re: CF Studio 5
>
> dave wrote:
>> And why would Adobe add it? It's done, gone and I doubt they will 
>> bring it
> back for the 13 people who want it.
>
> I would venture to say that there are quite a bit more than 13 people 
> that use it. I know of plenty that still love it. But I don't see 
> Adobe ever restarting development on a non-money making product.
>
> Rey...
>
>
>
>
>
> 



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Re: How to convert a number into date?

2006-06-04 Thread Paul Hastings
David Strong wrote:
> Remember the EPOCH times for Unix and Windows are different.

just an fyi: there are more than 1 windows epoch depending on what you're 
doing. 
besides the windows file time ("ticks" or 100 nanoseconds since 1-jan-1601) 
there's now also dotnet datetime (ticks since 1-jan-0001). you can read more 
about this sort of thing here:

http://icu.sourceforge.net/apiref/icu4j/com/ibm/icu/util/UniversalTimeScale.html


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Re: CF Studio 5

2006-06-04 Thread Denny Valliant
On 6/4/06, dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> no, i cant even get the latest build to reconize it or the css plugin, i
> did put in the nightly build of cfe but its not showing up in the updater
> either.


Is there a css plugin with cfe? I didn't think so...  are you talking about
webtools?  Or MyEclipse?

The nightly shouldn't show up in the updater, but it should list the version
in the: help > software updates > manage config.
I might be confused though (re: css plugin ;).

When I asked if you'd tried the eclipse team ftp plugin you said "yup", I
assume it wouldn't connect to your server?  Too bad, I love how it syncs the
files and compares and all that.  But I don't use ftp, bleh, I refuse to run
it as a service even.

It looks like maybe some interest is gathering on the eclipse side for
better SSH and yes, FTP support, so give it a little time, and you'll be
pleasantly surprised.  There is also the RSE plugin, gathering steam, I
tried it, and it's linking up files and providing SSH terminals.  Woot.

Makes me feel all warm inside.
:D


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RE: CF Studio 5

2006-06-04 Thread dave
no, i cant even get the latest build to reconize it or the css plugin, i did 
put in the nightly build of cfe but its not showing up in the updater either.

~Dave the disruptor~ 


From: "Russ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 10:18 PM
To: CF-Talk 
Subject: RE: CF Studio 5 

Have you not gotten it to work at all with the latest stable build? I think
there were some issues with the active/passive settings, and I believe
CFEclipse only have one setting? Once I changed some settings on our ftp
server, things were working fairly smooth. 

Russ

> -Original Message-
> From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 9:56 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: CF Studio 5
> 
> At least you are getting it to work.
> 
> ~Dave the disruptor~
> 
> 
> From: "Russ" 
> Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 9:51 PM
> To: CF-Talk 
> Subject: RE: CF Studio 5
> 
> As I've said before, I think the ftp support is better in the latest
> nightly
> builds then it is in the latest stable release. I've used it for months
> and
> the only issue I've had was that after it times out, CFE doesn't handle it
> very gracefully, but I think even that has improved in the latest version.
> In any case, you should try to stay away from ftp anyway and use
> subversion
> instead for deployments.
> 
> Russ
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 



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Re: ISDEFINED for list member

2006-06-04 Thread Jim Wright
On 6/4/06, Richard Colman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Anyone know the proper syntax for checking whether a list member exists,
> like:
>
> 
>
Assuming that you are looking for there to just be a value other than
an empty string in a particular list position and you know the number
of list elements, you could just change that to:


If the number of list elements is variable, you could use...




If there are less elements in the list than the position you are
looking for, the getToken function will return an empty string rather
than an error.

-- 
Jim Wright
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RE: CF Studio 5

2006-06-04 Thread Russ
Have you not gotten it to work at all with the latest stable build?  I think
there were some issues with the active/passive settings, and I believe
CFEclipse only have one setting?  Once I changed some settings on our ftp
server, things were working fairly smooth.  

Russ

> -Original Message-
> From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 9:56 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: CF Studio 5
> 
> At least you are getting it to work.
> 
> ~Dave the disruptor~
> 
> 
> From: "Russ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 9:51 PM
> To: CF-Talk 
> Subject: RE: CF Studio 5
> 
> As I've said before, I think the ftp support is better in the latest
> nightly
> builds then it is in the latest stable release. I've used it for months
> and
> the only issue I've had was that after it times out, CFE doesn't handle it
> very gracefully, but I think even that has improved in the latest version.
> In any case, you should try to stay away from ftp anyway and use
> subversion
> instead for deployments.
> 
> Russ
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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Re: ISDEFINED for list member

2006-06-04 Thread Rick Root
Richard Colman wrote:
> Anyone know the proper syntax for checking whether a list member exists,
> like:
>  
> 
>  
> Which does not work, BTW.

You can't do it that way. listgetat() will fail with an index out of 
bounds error (essentially).





...


or something like that.

Rick

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RE: CF Studio 5

2006-06-04 Thread dave
At least you are getting it to work.

~Dave the disruptor~ 


From: "Russ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 9:51 PM
To: CF-Talk 
Subject: RE: CF Studio 5 

As I've said before, I think the ftp support is better in the latest nightly
builds then it is in the latest stable release. I've used it for months and
the only issue I've had was that after it times out, CFE doesn't handle it
very gracefully, but I think even that has improved in the latest version.
In any case, you should try to stay away from ftp anyway and use subversion
instead for deployments. 

Russ





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Re: Context Root and Web Root misbehaving (CFMX7)

2006-06-04 Thread Troy Simpson
I think I found my answer in this tech note.

http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?id=tn_19400&mode=thankyou

Thanks,
Troy

On 6/1/06, Troy Simpson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have configured a server for multiple JRun/ColdFusion MX 7 instances
> like the following:
>
> d:\servers\jrun01\cfusion-ear\cfusion-war
> d:\servers\jrun02\cfusion-ear\cfusion-war
> d:\servers\jrun03\cfusion-ear\cfusion-war
>
> Each JRun/ColdFusion instances is assigned to a dedicated website
> (using JRun4 Web Server JWS) like this:
>
> http://www.site1.com
> http://www.site2.com
> http://www.site3.com
>
> I have the context root for each JRun/ColdFusion-WAR instances
> configured in the respective application.xml files like the following:
>
> D:\servers\jrun01\cfusion-ear\META-INF\application.xml
>
> 
>  Application 1.2//EN"
> "http://java.sun.com/j2ee/dtds/application_1_2.dtd";>
>   
>  Macromedia ColdFusion MX
>  Macromedia ColdFusion MX
>  
> 
>cfusion-war
>/
> 
>  
>   
>
> So the context root for each JRun/Coldfusion server is the root of the
> JRun4 web server.
>
> I am using the JRun Web Server (JWS) that comes with JRun/ColdFusion.
> To configure virtual directories in the JWS, I edit the jrun-web.xml
> file located in each respective JRun/ColdFusion instances as follows:
>
> D:\servers\jrun01\cfusion-ear\cfusion-war\WEB-INF\jrun-web.xml
>
> 
>  /*
>  d:/websites/site1/www
> 
>
> When I restart the JRun/ColdFusion instance which uses JWS for the web
> server, I get the following error:
>
> - from the console:
> D:\servers\bin>c:\jrun4\bin\jrun -config d:\servers\bin\jvm_jrun01.config
> -start jrun01
> Starting Macromedia JRun 4.0 (Build 92909), jrun01 server
> 05/17 17:57:07 info JRun Naming Service listening on *:2908
> 05/17 17:57:07 warning No sessionSecret has been specified in jrun.xml.
> Installing a self generated sessionSecret.
> 05/17 17:57:08 info JRunDataSource bound to JNDI under name esdevfarcry01
> 05/17 17:57:08 info JRun DataSourceService: Created JDBC XA Connection Pool
> named esdevfarcry01
> 05/17 17:57:08 info Bound a LinkRef from "DefaultDataSource" to the default
> DataSource "esdevfarcry01"
> 05/17 17:57:08 info JRun Web Server listening on *:8308
> 05/17 17:57:08 info Deploying enterprise application "Macromedia ColdFusion
> MX" from: file:/D:/servers/jrun01/cfusion-ea
> r/
> 05/17 17:57:08 info Deploying web application "Macromedia Coldfusion MX"
> from: file:/D:/servers/jrun01/cfusion-ear/
> 05/17 17:57:08 error Error loading class for Filter CFCacheFilter: Filter is
> disabled.
> java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: coldfusion.bootstrap.BootstrapFilter
>   at
> jrunx.util.JRunURLClassLoader.findClass(JRunURLClassLoader.java:161)
>   at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
>   at
> jrunx.util.JRunURLClassLoader.loadClass(JRunURLClassLoader.java:77)
>   at
> jrunx.util.JRunURLClassLoader.loadClass(JRunURLClassLoader.java:69)
>   at jrun.servlet.FilterManager.loadFilter(FilterManager.java:184)
>   at jrun.servlet.FilterManager.init(FilterManager.java:155)
>   at jrun.servlet.FilterManager.create(FilterManager.java:74)
>   at
> jrun.servlet.WebApplicationService.start(WebApplicationService.java:223)
>   at
> jrun.ea.EnterpriseApplication.start(EnterpriseApplication.java:194)
>   at
> jrun.deployment.DeployerService.initModules(DeployerService.java:710)
>   at
> jrun.deployment.DeployerService.createWatchedDeployment(DeployerService.java:242)
>   at jrun.deployment.DeployerService.deploy(DeployerService.java:430)
>   at
> jrun.deployment.DeployerService.checkWatchedDirectories(DeployerService.java:179)
>   at jrun.deployment.DeployerService.run(DeployerService.java:891)
>   at
> jrunx.scheduler.SchedulerService.invokeRunnable(SchedulerService.java:223)
>   at
> jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$DownstreamMetrics.invokeRunnable(ThreadPool.java:318)
>   at
> jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$ThreadThrottle.invokeRunnable(ThreadPool.java:426)
>   at
> jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$UpstreamMetrics.invokeRunnable(ThreadPool.java:264)
>   at jrunx.scheduler.WorkerThread.run(WorkerThread.java:66)
>
> 05/17 17:57:08 user JSPServlet: init
> 05/17 17:57:09 info coldfusion.bootstrap.BootstrapServlet
> 05/17 17:57:09 error Could not pre-load servlet: CFMxmlServlet
> 05/17 17:57:09 info coldfusion.bootstrap.BootstrapServlet
> 05/17 17:57:09 error Could not pre-load servlet: ColdFusionStartUpServlet
> 05/17 17:57:09 info coldfusion.bootstrap.BootstrapServlet
> 05/17 17:57:09 error Could not pre-load servlet: CfmServlet
> 05/17 17:57:09 info coldfusion.bootstrap.BootstrapServlet
> 05/17 17:57:09 error Could not pre-load servlet: CFSwfServlet
> 05/17 17:57:09 info coldfusion.bootstrap.BootstrapServlet
> 05/17 17:57:09 error Could not pre-load servlet: CFCServlet
> 05/17 17:57:09 info coldfusion.bootstrap.BootstrapServlet
> 05/17 17:57:09 error Could not pre-load servlet: Fl

Re: ISDEFINED for list member

2006-06-04 Thread Tony
are you just looking for a PARTICULAR value? or looking for the
existence of a value
in a PARTICULAR spot?

tony

On 6/4/06, Richard Colman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Anyone know the proper syntax for checking whether a list member exists,
> like:
>
> 
>
> Which does not work, BTW.
>
> TNX if you can help.
>
> Rick Colman
>
>
>
>
> 

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RE: CF Studio 5

2006-06-04 Thread Russ
As I've said before, I think the ftp support is better in the latest nightly
builds then it is in the latest stable release.  I've used it for months and
the only issue I've had was that after it times out, CFE doesn't handle it
very gracefully, but I think even that has improved in the latest version.
In any case, you should try to stay away from ftp anyway and use subversion
instead for deployments. 

Russ

> -Original Message-
> From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 8:39 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: CF Studio 5
> 
> No, ftp is a problem with eclipse.
> 
> " Eclipse on the other hand isn't as great with FTP from the few
> times I've tried. That's primarily why I've never converted."
> Exactly what I am saying...
> 
> ~Dave the disruptor~
> 
> 
> From: "Greg Luce" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 8:31 PM
> To: CF-Talk 
> Subject: Re: CF Studio 5
> 
> FTP is a problem with Homesite? Please elaborate on the HS FTP issues.
> I've
> worked mainly through FTP in Studio and Homesite for 5+ years without any
> problems. Eclipse on the other hand isn't as great with FTP from the few
> times I've tried. That's primarily why I've never converted.
> 
> Greg
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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Large cfserver.log file a performance issue?

2006-06-04 Thread James Holmes
Lately our production server has been throwing null null errors on
line -1 and requests have been timing out. TOP shows that the CF
process is taking up a lot of CPU when this happens.

I poked around and found that the cfserver.log file is huge (over
150MB). Is this a likely contributor to these problems or should I
have the admins look elsewhere? I couldn't actually find the errors
mentioned above anywhere in the logs.

It's CF 6.1 Ent on Sun/Solaris.

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ISDEFINED for list member

2006-06-04 Thread Richard Colman
Anyone know the proper syntax for checking whether a list member exists,
like:
 

 
Which does not work, BTW.
 
TNX if you can help.
 
Rick Colman




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Re: CF Studio 5

2006-06-04 Thread dave
No, ftp is a problem with eclipse.

" Eclipse on the other hand isn't as great with FTP from the few
times I've tried. That's primarily why I've never converted."
Exactly what I am saying...

~Dave the disruptor~ 


From: "Greg Luce" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 8:31 PM
To: CF-Talk 
Subject: Re: CF Studio 5 

FTP is a problem with Homesite? Please elaborate on the HS FTP issues. I've
worked mainly through FTP in Studio and Homesite for 5+ years without any
problems. Eclipse on the other hand isn't as great with FTP from the few
times I've tried. That's primarily why I've never converted.

Greg





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Re: How to convert a number into date?

2006-06-04 Thread Johnny Le
Wow, David, that works.  Thank you.

Wonder why they chose 1/1/1601 as the starting point.

Johnny


> Remember the EPOCH times for Unix and Windows are different.
> 
> Try this, read the comments I have included for you:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> // parse value into minutes
> variables.calcLastLogon = variables.lastlogon / (60*1000);
> 
> 
> //add minutes from WINDOWS EPOCH TIME
> variables.finalResult.ts = DateAdd('n',variables.calcLastLogon,
> '1/1/1601');
> 
> variables.finalResult.date = Dateformat(variables.finalResult.ts,', 
>  dd, ');
> variables.finalResult.time = Timeformat(variables.finalResult.ts,'h:mm 
> tt');
> 
> //some basic output   
> writeoutput('the last logon date was on ' & variables.finalResult.date 
> &' at  ' & variables.finalResult.time);
> 

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Re: CF Studio 5

2006-06-04 Thread Greg Luce
FTP is a problem with Homesite? Please elaborate on the HS FTP issues. I've
worked mainly through FTP in Studio and Homesite for 5+ years without any
problems. Eclipse on the other hand isn't as great with FTP from the few
times I've tried. That's primarily why I've never converted.

Greg


On 6/3/06, dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Ok well there would be more than 13 but the point is just as you say, they
> won't be doing something that they lose a ton of money on which pretty much
> means there aren't enough people buying it to justify it.
>
> Personally, I thought setting hs up was a pita kinda like how eclipse is
> now and to me they both have similar problems, the main one for me is that
> if i am doing css stuff then I gotta upload every change and then go browse
> it to see wtf is going on and then I gotta go to a pc to see how bad ie
> broke it. At least in dw it cuts most of that out.
>
> And ftp is such a problem with both
>
> ~Dave the disruptor~
>
> 
> From: Rey Bango <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 7:50 PM
> To: CF-Talk 
> Subject: Re: CF Studio 5
>
> dave wrote:
> > And why would Adobe add it? It's done, gone and I doubt they will bring
> it back for the 13 people who want it.
>
> I would venture to say that there are quite a bit more than 13 people
> that use it. I know of plenty that still love it. But I don't see Adobe
> ever restarting development on a non-money making product.
>
> Rey...
>
>
>
> 

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Re: CF Studio 5

2006-06-04 Thread Rey Bango
;o)



dave wrote:
> lol no kidding!!!
> I like your new nickname!
> 
> ~Dave the disruptor~ 
> 
> 
> From: Rey Bango <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 7:17 PM
> To: CF-Talk 
> Subject: Re: CF Studio 5 
> 
> hahahahaha! I'm just floored how this has blossomed into a full on 
> debate about operating systems & version control systems.
> 
> Man, I should ask simple questions more often!!!
> 
> hahahahaaha!
> 
> ~Rey the impaler~
> http://www.reybango.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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Re: CF Studio 5

2006-06-04 Thread dave
lol no kidding!!!
I like your new nickname!

~Dave the disruptor~ 


From: Rey Bango <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 7:17 PM
To: CF-Talk 
Subject: Re: CF Studio 5 

hahahahaha! I'm just floored how this has blossomed into a full on 
debate about operating systems & version control systems.

Man, I should ask simple questions more often!!!

hahahahaaha!

~Rey the impaler~
http://www.reybango.com





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Re: CF Studio 5

2006-06-04 Thread Rey Bango
hahahahaha! I'm just floored how this has blossomed into a full on 
debate about operating systems & version control systems.

Man, I should ask simple questions more often!!!

hahahahaaha!

~Rey the impaler~
http://www.reybango.com


dave wrote:
> no one said u didnt, my god
> the point was it doesnt run on anything but winblows and other people choose 
> to use other os's, lets see how much you like windows when/if vista comes out 
> and you cant even run hs anymore or half your other tools and you are still 
> left with a half ass imitaion of osx..
> 
> ~Dave the disruptor~ 
> 
> 
> From: "Snake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 6:34 PM
> To: CF-Talk 
> Subject: RE: CF Studio 5 
> 
> As I said, I have been using cfeclipse for 2 months now, so that hardly
> translate to "I am never going to change".
> Changing your IDE is one thing, but you can't expect everyone to change
> their OS as well, like most people I have years of time and money invested
> in windows and the associated software, so no I'm going to be changing that
> any time soon. I like windows.
> 
> Russ
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Mark Drew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: 04 June 2006 19:47
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: CF Studio 5
> 
> Why does some of the arguments about HomeS**te Vs CFEclipse sound exactly
> like OS X Vs Windows or Linux vs Windows or Vi vs Emacs?
> 
> I like CFEclipse so much I actually started making it a better product. So
> maybe I have a vested interest in being the minority, yes I use OS X and
> CFEclipse, sorry, I dont use Windows and HomeS**te. 
> but I am still working on a product for the community that uses Windows.
> Stop the madness and mud slinging. I shall try to do my best to show to
> people why CFEclipse is different and why you might like it after the
> initial trial of learning it, but if you arent going to change, even if
> CFEclipse writes the code for you whilst it makes you coffee and gives you a
> back-rub, I would see this as a waste of time, that would be better spend on
> making it a better product for people that use it.
> 
> At the end of the day, I get no benefit on "more" people using it, it isnt
> like I am selling the dammed thing.
> 
> MD
> 
> On 4 Jun 2006, at 13:43, Snake wrote:
> 
> 
>>There is no better OS than the one I am using as far as I am 
>>concerned.
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Sent: 04 June 2006 01:46
>>To: CF-Talk
>>Subject: RE: CF Studio 5
>>
>>some people do more than cfm editing and some ppl choose to use a 
>>better os as well
>>
>>~Dave the disruptor~
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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RE: CF Studio 5

2006-06-04 Thread dave
no one said u didnt, my god
the point was it doesnt run on anything but winblows and other people choose to 
use other os's, lets see how much you like windows when/if vista comes out and 
you cant even run hs anymore or half your other tools and you are still left 
with a half ass imitaion of osx..

~Dave the disruptor~ 


From: "Snake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 6:34 PM
To: CF-Talk 
Subject: RE: CF Studio 5 

As I said, I have been using cfeclipse for 2 months now, so that hardly
translate to "I am never going to change".
Changing your IDE is one thing, but you can't expect everyone to change
their OS as well, like most people I have years of time and money invested
in windows and the associated software, so no I'm going to be changing that
any time soon. I like windows.

Russ

-Original Message-
From: Mark Drew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 04 June 2006 19:47
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF Studio 5

Why does some of the arguments about HomeS**te Vs CFEclipse sound exactly
like OS X Vs Windows or Linux vs Windows or Vi vs Emacs?

I like CFEclipse so much I actually started making it a better product. So
maybe I have a vested interest in being the minority, yes I use OS X and
CFEclipse, sorry, I dont use Windows and HomeS**te. 
but I am still working on a product for the community that uses Windows.
Stop the madness and mud slinging. I shall try to do my best to show to
people why CFEclipse is different and why you might like it after the
initial trial of learning it, but if you arent going to change, even if
CFEclipse writes the code for you whilst it makes you coffee and gives you a
back-rub, I would see this as a waste of time, that would be better spend on
making it a better product for people that use it.

At the end of the day, I get no benefit on "more" people using it, it isnt
like I am selling the dammed thing.

MD

On 4 Jun 2006, at 13:43, Snake wrote:

> There is no better OS than the one I am using as far as I am 
> concerned.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 04 June 2006 01:46
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: CF Studio 5
>
> some people do more than cfm editing and some ppl choose to use a 
> better os as well
>
> ~Dave the disruptor~



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RE: CF Studio 5

2006-06-04 Thread Snake
As I said, I have been using cfeclipse for 2 months now, so that hardly
translate to  "I am never going to change".
Changing your IDE is one thing, but you can't expect everyone to change
their OS as well, like most people I have years of time and money invested
in windows and the associated software, so no I'm going to be changing that
any time soon. I like windows.

Russ

 

-Original Message-
From: Mark Drew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 04 June 2006 19:47
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF Studio 5

Why does some of the arguments about HomeS**te Vs CFEclipse sound exactly
like OS X Vs Windows or Linux vs Windows or Vi vs Emacs?

I like CFEclipse so much I actually started making it a better product. So
maybe I have a vested interest in being the minority, yes I use OS X and
CFEclipse, sorry, I dont use Windows and HomeS**te.  
but I am still working on a product for the community that uses Windows.
Stop the madness and mud slinging. I shall try to do my best to show to
people why CFEclipse is different and why you might like it after the
initial trial of learning it, but if you arent going to change, even if
CFEclipse writes the code for you whilst it makes you coffee and gives you a
back-rub, I would see this as a waste of time, that would be better spend on
making it a better product for people that use it.

At the end of the day, I get no benefit on "more" people using it, it isnt
like I am selling the dammed thing.


MD


On 4 Jun 2006, at 13:43, Snake wrote:

> There is no better OS than the one I am using as far as I am 
> concerned.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 04 June 2006 01:46
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: CF Studio 5
>
> some people do more than cfm editing and some ppl choose to use a 
> better os as well
>
> ~Dave the disruptor~



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Re: CF Studio 5

2006-06-04 Thread dave
Yeah one of the big things with it is that most of these people can't even 
afford what they get let alone all the good stuff.

Honestly, part of that problem for me is I don't really know enough about it to 
get into it. Is there any good links you have handy?

I wish I could just sit around for a day and figure it out but right now I'm 
currently working on 18 sites and I have an offer of well over 200 more and if 
i take those then I can see me taking a week off (when i get caught up) and 
really learning the other things such as this and really get into the 
model-glue, reactor, coldspring stuff.

~Dave the disruptor~ 


From: Jochem van Dieten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 6:15 PM
To: CF-Talk 
Subject: Re: CF Studio 5 

dave wrote:
> And thats great for people working in groups and in shops but there are 
> others out there who don't need all that.
> It depends on your situation but for me why do 5 things to get it to the 
> server when you can do 1?

It still is one thing: hit the deploy button.

> They way I roll out sites I don't need to do all the additional steps for 
> that stuff so why do it?

Because it allows you to better control the process. It doesn't matter 
if you work in a group, in a shop or alone. In all those cases scripting 
and instrumenting deployment has benefits. Even in the minimal scripts I 
use personally I have integrated backups of the new code, I use an 
encrypted connection for uploading and the scripts figure out which 
parts of the code is changed and upload only that. And writing the 
scripts for that really doesn't take all that long.

What we do at work goes way further. Part of the cycle is that we run 
all code through an HTML validator. We compile it into bytecode. We 
package it into an EAR file. We run both white and black box regression 
tests on everything. Building the infrastructure for that is indeed a 
lot of work and you probably don't want to do that for a simple project 
(or maybe it is more accurate to say that most small customers won't be 
willing to pay for that).

But in either case as a developer, I just communicate with source 
control. Everything after that is scripted.

Jochem



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Re: CF Studio 5

2006-06-04 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
An interesting point, my mother-in-law bought me a copy of CF Studio 5
(Macromedia) as a yard sale for a buck.

Had both books and the original CD so I assume it's legitimate.

On 6/3/06, Rey Bango <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So would I.
>
> Rey...
>
> Snake wrote:
> > I have to say, I would buy HS if they continued releasing it.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Rey Bango [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 04 June 2006 00:48
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Re: CF Studio 5
> >
> > dave wrote:
> >
> >>And why would Adobe add it? It's done, gone and I doubt they will bring it
> >
> > back for the 13 people who want it.
> >
> > I would venture to say that there are quite a bit more than 13 people that
> > use it. I know of plenty that still love it. But I don't see Adobe ever
> > restarting development on a non-money making product.
> >
> > Rey...
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: CF Studio 5

2006-06-04 Thread Jochem van Dieten
dave wrote:
> And thats great for people working in groups and in shops but there are 
> others out there who don't need all that.
> It depends on your situation but for me why do 5 things to get it to the 
> server when you can do 1?

It still is one thing: hit the deploy button.


> They way I roll out sites I don't need to do all the additional steps for 
> that stuff so why do it?


Because it allows you to better control the process. It doesn't matter 
if you work in a group, in a shop or alone. In all those cases scripting 
and instrumenting deployment has benefits. Even in the minimal scripts I 
use personally I have integrated backups of the new code, I use an 
encrypted connection for uploading and the scripts figure out which 
parts of the code is changed and upload only that. And writing the 
scripts for that really doesn't take all that long.

What we do at work goes way further. Part of the cycle is that we run 
all code through an HTML validator. We compile it into bytecode. We 
package it into an EAR file. We run both white and black box regression 
tests on everything. Building the infrastructure for that is indeed a 
lot of work and you probably don't want to do that for a simple project 
(or maybe it is more accurate to say that most small customers won't be 
willing to pay for that).

But in either case as a developer, I just communicate with source 
control. Everything after that is scripted.

Jochem


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Re: CF Studio 5

2006-06-04 Thread Denny Valliant
On 6/4/06, Dawson, Michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I just want to say that I like the concept of CFE and what Mark has done
> with it so far.  I just don't care much for Eclipse's interface and the
> amazing breadth and depth of that product.  It can easily overwhelm a
> person.  That has nothing to do with Mark's CFE commitment.
>
> M!ke


Someone could create a dumbed down workspace, package it with
the JVM and new HS-esk toolbars enabled, and I bet that would help
a little.  Maybe throw in 1 or 2 of the nifty-er plugins out there...
**
The curious may want to check out MyEclipse, it has nifty stuff.
**
I'll take a look at the html preview idea, I was checking out custom todos,
and html wysiwyg.  I'm not very good at java though. =]
:denny


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RE: CF Studio 5

2006-06-04 Thread Dawson, Michael
I just want to say that I like the concept of CFE and what Mark has done
with it so far.  I just don't care much for Eclipse's interface and the
amazing breadth and depth of that product.  It can easily overwhelm a
person.  That has nothing to do with Mark's CFE commitment.

M!ke 

-Original Message-
From: Mark Drew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 1:47 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF Studio 5

Why does some of the arguments about HomeS**te Vs CFEclipse sound
exactly like OS X Vs Windows or Linux vs Windows or Vi vs Emacs?

I like CFEclipse so much I actually started making it a better product.
So maybe I have a vested interest in being the minority, yes I use OS X
and CFEclipse, sorry, I dont use Windows and HomeS**te.  
but I am still working on a product for the community that uses Windows.
Stop the madness and mud slinging. I shall try to do my best to show to
people why CFEclipse is different and why you might like it after the
initial trial of learning it, but if you arent going to change, even if
CFEclipse writes the code for you whilst it makes you coffee and gives
you a back-rub, I would see this as a waste of time, that would be
better spend on making it a better product for people that use it.

At the end of the day, I get no benefit on "more" people using it, it
isnt like I am selling the dammed thing.


MD

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Re: Create keyboard shortcuts???

2006-06-04 Thread andy
Then yeah, you need to capture the keypress using javascript. This should do for
you:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=capture+keypress%2C+javascript



> Guys, he knows about the access keys.  What he is talking about is not
> an access key, you do not have to hit alt with the key, just the key
> itself.  gmail users are used to this within gmail, it allows you to
> hit c and the page changes for you to write an email, inside of an
> email you can hit j or k to go to the next or previous message, etc.
> But there is not alt keypress.
> 
> Again, you are looking for a javascript solution.
> 
> On 6/4/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Johnny...
> >
> > You're looking for the accesskey attribute.
> >
> > 
> >
> > With that in one of your forms you can hit ALT and S and it will submit
> the
> > form.
> >
> > Same goes for a link:
> > contact us
> >
> > Hitting ALT and C will activate the link, taking you to the contact.cfm.
> >
> > Hope that helps.
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Do you know how to create gmail-like keyboard shortcuts? I mean I know
> how to
> > > create shortcuts with Alt+..., but I don't know how to create shortcuts
> with
> > > one letter like "C" for compose.  I searched google for "create shortcuts
> for
> > > website" but I got nothing.
> > >
> > > Johnny
> > >
> > >
> >
> > 
> 
> 

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RE: How to convert a number into date?

2006-06-04 Thread Dawson, Michael
Now, you have asked the right question.  ;-)  See if this helps:

http://www.cflib.org/udf.cfm?ID=1339 

M!ke

-Original Message-
From: Johnny Le [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 12:35 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: How to convert a number into date?

Someone must have epxerienced this problem before.  The number is the
lastlogon date produced by the Active Directory (Windows 2000) when I
used LDAP to query it.  Let me know if you know how to parse it now.

Johnny

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Re: CF Studio 5

2006-06-04 Thread dave
And thats great for people working in groups and in shops but there are others 
out there who don't need all that.
It depends on your situation but for me why do 5 things to get it to the server 
when you can do 1?

" FTPing to a server for testing is plain ol' 1998"
You mean like using hs?

They way I roll out sites I don't need to do all the additional steps for that 
stuff so why do it?

I guess its the same reason people still use old programs like hs, eh.
~Dave the disruptor~ 


From: Peter J. Farrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 4:39 PM
To: CF-Talk 
Subject: Re: CF Studio 5 

> Mark,
> I am not asking you to do it for me but it seems like a huge issue for 
> a lot of people. If you ask most people what they think of ftp in 
> ecplise their responce is "it just sucks" and it's kind of an 
> important part and quite frankly I am still amazed that ecplise has 
> come this far without a good ftp system.

Probably because a lot of people that use Eclipse are using some sort of SCM 
(like Subversion) and run a local development environment (like running CF and 
your RDBMS locally). Also, I assume a lot of enterprise places use some sort of 
development schedule that creates builds/snapshots of the repository for upload 
to a staging server instead of using your staging/production as a development 
environment. I never need FTP in Eclipse because that is the type of 
environment we use here at work. All developers use their local environment - 
FTPing to a server for testing is plain ol' 1998.



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Re: How to convert a number into date?

2006-06-04 Thread David Strong
Remember the EPOCH times for Unix and Windows are different.

Try this, read the comments I have included for you:







// parse value into minutes
variables.calcLastLogon = variables.lastlogon / (60*1000);


//add minutes from WINDOWS EPOCH TIME
variables.finalResult.ts = DateAdd('n',variables.calcLastLogon,'1/1/1601');

variables.finalResult.date = Dateformat(variables.finalResult.ts,',  
dd, ');
variables.finalResult.time = Timeformat(variables.finalResult.ts,'h:mm tt');

//some basic output 
writeoutput('the last logon date was on ' & variables.finalResult.date &' at  ' 
& variables.finalResult.time);



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Re: CF Studio 5

2006-06-04 Thread Peter J . Farrell
> Mark,
> I am not asking you to do it for me but it seems like a huge issue for 
> a lot of people. If you ask most people what they think of ftp in 
> ecplise their responce is "it just sucks" and it's kind of an 
> important part and quite frankly I am still amazed that ecplise has 
> come this far without a good ftp system.

Probably because a lot of people that use Eclipse are using some sort of SCM 
(like Subversion) and run a local development environment (like running CF and 
your RDBMS locally).  Also, I assume a lot of enterprise places use some sort 
of development schedule that creates builds/snapshots of the repository for 
upload to a staging server  instead of using your staging/production as a 
development environment.  I never need FTP in Eclipse because that is the type 
of environment we use here at work.  All developers use their local environment 
- FTPing to a server for testing is plain ol' 1998.

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Re: Create keyboard shortcuts???

2006-06-04 Thread Ryan Guill
Guys, he knows about the access keys.  What he is talking about is not
an access key, you do not have to hit alt with the key, just the key
itself.  gmail users are used to this within gmail, it allows you to
hit c and the page changes for you to write an email, inside of an
email you can hit j or k to go to the next or previous message, etc.
But there is not alt keypress.

Again, you are looking for a javascript solution.

On 6/4/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Johnny...
>
> You're looking for the accesskey attribute.
>
> 
>
> With that in one of your forms you can hit ALT and S and it will submit the
> form.
>
> Same goes for a link:
> contact us
>
> Hitting ALT and C will activate the link, taking you to the contact.cfm.
>
> Hope that helps.
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Do you know how to create gmail-like keyboard shortcuts? I mean I know how 
> > to
> > create shortcuts with Alt+..., but I don't know how to create shortcuts with
> > one letter like "C" for compose.  I searched google for "create shortcuts 
> > for
> > website" but I got nothing.
> >
> > Johnny
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: Create keyboard shortcuts???

2006-06-04 Thread andy
Johnny...

You're looking for the accesskey attribute.



With that in one of your forms you can hit ALT and S and it will submit the
form.

Same goes for a link:
contact us

Hitting ALT and C will activate the link, taking you to the contact.cfm.

Hope that helps.

> Hi,
> 
> Do you know how to create gmail-like keyboard shortcuts? I mean I know how to
> create shortcuts with Alt+..., but I don't know how to create shortcuts with
> one letter like "C" for compose.  I searched google for "create shortcuts for
> website" but I got nothing.
> 
> Johnny
> 
> 

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Re: Session Variables lost when moving from http to https - Please help!

2006-06-04 Thread Matt Robertson
>Just carry it over with the
>urltoken var to be sure.

Yikes.  I wouldn't recommend that for security reasons.  You shouldn't need to 
make the application name a variable under most circumstances.  How often does 
something like that change?  Best to hardcode it and make it something that 
isn't likely to be guessed.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Janitor, MSB Web Systems
http://mysecretbase.com

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Re: CF Studio 5

2006-06-04 Thread dave
Mark,
I am not asking you to do it for me but it seems like a huge issue for a lot of 
people. If you ask most people what they think of ftp in ecplise their responce 
is "it just sucks" and it's kind of an important part and quite frankly I am 
still amazed that ecplise has come this far without a good ftp system.

Mark, I am more than willing to help with anything I can.

~Dave the disruptor~ 


From: Mark Drew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 2:38 PM
To: CF-Talk 
Subject: Re: CF Studio 5 

I shall see what I can do about that just for you Dave

MD

On 4 Jun 2006, at 03:59, dave wrote:

> I cant get it to work right and thats a major deal for me.
>
> ~Dave the disruptor~
>
> 
> From: "Eric Roberts" 
> Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 10:13 PM
> To: CF-Talk 
> Subject: RE: CF Studio 5
>
> I never could get the FTP to work on cfeclipse. I always has to use 
> an ftp
> program to upload my files if they were on a remote machine. Has 
> that been
> fixed/improved mark?
>
> Eric
>
>
>
>
>
> 



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Re: CF Studio 5

2006-06-04 Thread dave
Mark,
I have always voiced what issues I have with ecplise, right now I have none 
with cfe, hell you are doing one hella job on it and that's why I stick up for 
it.

Again, the only issues I have with ECLIPSE are:
1. A design view, which doesn't mean a drag and drop interface wwysiwyg 
interface, just to be able to see what my css is doing, nothing more, nothing 
less.

2. FTP that is simple and works, if it was like dw where it can upload on save 
that would be big shiny tits.
Jared has some info on his site about getting ftp to work but for me its too 
much head ache.

3. Ok 1 more and that would be a better way to load up plugins, maybe its just 
me or maybe some of these things have issues with intel macs but the only one I 
can get to reliably work is CFE. The css ones don't and ftp don't.

4. ok and another thing I don't like about eclipse (which might be 
configurable, i dunno) and someone mentioned this before is that in dw i really 
like it closing my tag after the first part where eclipse closes it basically 
when u r almost done anyways. In both it would be cool if it closed the tag as 
soon as you narrow it down but lets you keep typing in the attributes. 

And with this particular thread my beef with OS's is that hs is a windows only 
and god 4 bid if i am going to go back to windows to use a ancient program.

One of the good things about eclipse is that it is the same across platforms.

~Dave the disruptor~ 


From: Mark Drew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 2:41 PM
To: CF-Talk 
Subject: Re: CF Studio 5 

Good enough? not good enough? Why didnt you like it? what would be 
better?

I mean, apart from all the Open Source arguments etc, CFEclipse is a 
developer's tool, and we are here to help developers, we listen we 
try to add good features to help you develop.

Do you want it *just* like homesite? Will that make lots of people 
change? or *just* like dreamweaver? which one would make people happier?

And would it make you feel better if we charged for CFEclipse? Would 
that remove the stigma of it being Open Source?

MD

On 4 Jun 2006, at 04:13, dave wrote:

> yup
>
> ~Dave the disruptor~
>
> 
> From: "Denny Valliant" 
> Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 11:11 PM
> To: CF-Talk 
> Subject: Re: CF Studio 5
>
> Have you guys tried the Eclipse FTP / webDAV stuff?
>
> It uses team, so it's got to be good.
>
> If it works.
> :)en
>
> On 6/3/06, dave wrote:
>>
>> I cant get it to work right and thats a major deal for me.
>>
>> ~Dave the disruptor~
>>
>> 
>> From: "Eric Roberts"
>> Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 10:13 PM
>> To: CF-Talk
>> Subject: RE: CF Studio 5
>>
>> I never could get the FTP to work on cfeclipse. I always has to 
>> use an ftp
>> program to upload my files if they were on a remote machine. Has 
>> that been
>> fixed/improved mark?
>>
>> Eric
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> 



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Re: CF Studio 5

2006-06-04 Thread Mark Drew
Why does some of the arguments about HomeS**te Vs CFEclipse sound  
exactly like OS X Vs Windows or Linux vs Windows or Vi vs Emacs?

I like CFEclipse so much I actually started making it a better  
product. So maybe I have a vested interest in being the minority, yes  
I use OS X and CFEclipse, sorry, I dont use Windows and HomeS**te.  
but I am still working on a product for the community that uses  
Windows. Stop the madness and mud slinging. I shall try to do my best  
to show to people why CFEclipse is different and why you might like  
it after the initial trial of learning it, but if you arent going to  
change, even if CFEclipse writes the code for you whilst it makes you  
coffee and gives you a back-rub, I would see this as a waste of time,  
that would be better spend on making it a better product for people  
that use it.

At the end of the day, I get no benefit on "more" people using it, it  
isnt like I am selling the dammed thing.


MD


On 4 Jun 2006, at 13:43, Snake wrote:

> There is no better OS than the one I am using as far as I am  
> concerned.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 04 June 2006 01:46
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: CF Studio 5
>
> some people do more than cfm editing and some ppl choose to use a  
> better os
> as well
>
> ~Dave the disruptor~

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RE: CF Studio 5

2006-06-04 Thread Snake
That's more like it Mark,  I may yet be converted :-)
I will have a look at the dictionary's next week and see if I can't
customise CFE to not annoy me :-)

Russ

-Original Message-
From: Mark Drew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 04 June 2006 19:35
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF Studio 5

The next version of CFE has toolbars
http://www.markdrew.co.uk/blog/index.cfm/2005/12/19/More-on-the-new-
CFEclipse-Toolbars

You can add whatever tags you want by using snippets. CFE is a CF editor by
trade but we do provide html syntax too.



You can edit the dictionary you are in , in the next version of CFE you have
a choice of which dictionary you use, we have tried to keep the dictionary
as accurate as possible with regards to which tags close and which dont, and
yes if you want to change it you can edit whichever is your default
dictionary (Cfmx7, 6 , 5 or whatever) and change whether they close or not.


You have been enlightened?

MD


On 4 Jun 2006, at 13:33, Snake wrote:

> I also miss the HomeSite customizable toolbar too. Not just for the 
> default buttons (the table wizard was very handy), but the ability to 
> add my own and create VTML tag editor for my own tags and what not.
>
> CFE has very few CFML/HTML options on the toolbar.
>
> But perhaps you could also enlighten me as to some tags are auto 
> completed and some are not, is this editable somewhere?
>
>
>
> Russ
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mark Drew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 04 June 2006 00:58
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: CF Studio 5
>
> Those are two features that are rather requested and I have already 
> added them (not sure if they are in the stable yet but definately will 
> be in the next release)
>
> If you have a Dictionary View you can double click and enter functions 
> and tags. Also I have (in the nightly) a version of right clicking on 
> a tag and being able to edit it. its pretty neat.
>
> So I am trying to make the product work well as requested by most 
> people.
>
> MD
>
> On 4 Jun 2006, at 00:48, Snake wrote:
>
>> I have been using CFE for nearly 2 months now, and I still miss 
>> Homesite. In fact I keep it open at the same time for the quick 
>> reference to tag editor, function/tag insert and quick help.
>> CFE has a way to go before it beats CFStudio/homesite for CFML 
>> editing.
>>
>> russ
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Rey Bango [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: 04 June 2006 00:32
>> To: CF-Talk
>> Subject: Re: CF Studio 5
>>
>> Definitely do the videos. I'm fairly open to new ideas but again, as 
>> I mentioned in an earlier post, I don't just jump to the next tool 
>> because its the "in" thing. If you're videos do a good job of showing 
>> me the benefits, I'd be more than happy to use CFE.
>>
>> Rey...
>>
>> Mark Drew wrote:
>>> I think if you dont have the time to learn a new tool, no matter the 
>>> size of the site, you just wont.
>>>
>>> Nothing anyone can say will help you switch from one tool to 
>>> another, I would have to show you (ahh, yes people, I will be doing 
>>> some video's of using CFEclipse)
>>>
>>> MD
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2 Jun 2006, at 20:55, Rey Bango wrote:
>>>
>>>
> you're serious about development and want integration with 
> subversion, then CFEclipse is the best editor for you.

 Sorry, I didn't realize that people developing small sites weren't 
 serious about development. ;)

 Rey...



>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> 



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Re: CF Studio 5

2006-06-04 Thread Mark Drew
Good enough? not good enough? Why didnt you like it? what would be  
better?

I mean, apart from all the Open Source arguments etc, CFEclipse is a  
developer's tool, and we are here to help developers, we listen we  
try to add good features to help you develop.

Do you want it *just* like homesite? Will that make lots of people  
change? or *just* like dreamweaver? which one would make people happier?

And would it make you feel better if we charged for CFEclipse? Would  
that remove the stigma of it being Open Source?

MD

On 4 Jun 2006, at 04:13, dave wrote:

> yup
>
> ~Dave the disruptor~
>
> 
> From: "Denny Valliant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 11:11 PM
> To: CF-Talk 
> Subject: Re: CF Studio 5
>
> Have you guys tried the Eclipse FTP / webDAV stuff?
>
> It uses team, so it's got to be good.
>
> If it works.
> :)en
>
> On 6/3/06, dave  wrote:
>>
>> I cant get it to work right and thats a major deal for me.
>>
>> ~Dave the disruptor~
>>
>> 
>> From: "Eric Roberts"
>> Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 10:13 PM
>> To: CF-Talk
>> Subject: RE: CF Studio 5
>>
>> I never could get the FTP to work on cfeclipse. I always has to  
>> use an ftp
>> program to upload my files if they were on a remote machine. Has  
>> that been
>> fixed/improved mark?
>>
>> Eric
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> 

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Re: CF Studio 5

2006-06-04 Thread Mark Drew
I shall see what I can do about that just for you Dave


MD

On 4 Jun 2006, at 03:59, dave wrote:

> I cant get it to work right and thats a major deal for me.
>
> ~Dave the disruptor~
>
> 
> From: "Eric Roberts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 10:13 PM
> To: CF-Talk 
> Subject: RE: CF Studio 5
>
> I never could get the FTP to work on cfeclipse. I always has to use  
> an ftp
> program to upload my files if they were on a remote machine. Has  
> that been
> fixed/improved mark?
>
> Eric
>
>
>
>
>
> 

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Re: CF Studio 5

2006-06-04 Thread Mark Drew
The next version of CFE has toolbars
http://www.markdrew.co.uk/blog/index.cfm/2005/12/19/More-on-the-new- 
CFEclipse-Toolbars

You can add whatever tags you want by using snippets. CFE is a CF  
editor by trade but we do provide html syntax too.



You can edit the dictionary you are in , in the next version of CFE  
you have a choice of which dictionary you use, we have tried to keep  
the dictionary as accurate as possible with regards to which tags  
close and which dont, and yes if you want to change it you can edit  
whichever is your default dictionary (Cfmx7, 6 , 5 or whatever) and  
change whether they close or not.


You have been enlightened?

MD


On 4 Jun 2006, at 13:33, Snake wrote:

> I also miss the HomeSite customizable toolbar too. Not just for the  
> default
> buttons (the table wizard was very handy), but the ability to add  
> my own and
> create VTML tag editor for my own tags and what not.
>
> CFE has very few CFML/HTML options on the toolbar.
>
> But perhaps you could also enlighten me as to some tags are auto  
> completed
> and some are not, is this editable somewhere?
>
>
>
> Russ
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mark Drew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 04 June 2006 00:58
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: CF Studio 5
>
> Those are two features that are rather requested and I have already  
> added
> them (not sure if they are in the stable yet but definately will be  
> in the
> next release)
>
> If you have a Dictionary View you can double click and enter  
> functions and
> tags. Also I have (in the nightly) a version of right clicking on a  
> tag and
> being able to edit it. its pretty neat.
>
> So I am trying to make the product work well as requested by most  
> people.
>
> MD
>
> On 4 Jun 2006, at 00:48, Snake wrote:
>
>> I have been using CFE for nearly 2 months now, and I still miss
>> Homesite. In fact I keep it open at the same time for the quick
>> reference to tag editor, function/tag insert and quick help.
>> CFE has a way to go before it beats CFStudio/homesite for CFML
>> editing.
>>
>> russ
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Rey Bango [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: 04 June 2006 00:32
>> To: CF-Talk
>> Subject: Re: CF Studio 5
>>
>> Definitely do the videos. I'm fairly open to new ideas but again,  
>> as I
>> mentioned in an earlier post, I don't just jump to the next tool
>> because its
>> the "in" thing. If you're videos do a good job of showing me the
>> benefits,
>> I'd be more than happy to use CFE.
>>
>> Rey...
>>
>> Mark Drew wrote:
>>> I think if you dont have the time to learn a new tool, no matter the
>>> size of the site, you just wont.
>>>
>>> Nothing anyone can say will help you switch from one tool to  
>>> another,
>>> I would have to show you (ahh, yes people, I will be doing some
>>> video's of using CFEclipse)
>>>
>>> MD
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2 Jun 2006, at 20:55, Rey Bango wrote:
>>>
>>>
> you're serious about development and want integration with
> subversion, then CFEclipse is the best editor for you.

 Sorry, I didn't realize that people developing small sites weren't
 serious about development. ;)

 Rey...



>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> 

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Re: Create keyboard shortcuts???

2006-06-04 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Johnny Le wrote:
> 
> Do you know how to create gmail-like keyboard shortcuts? I mean I know how to 
> create shortcuts with Alt+..., but I don't know how to create shortcuts with 
> one letter like "C" for compose.  I searched google for "create shortcuts for 
> website" but I got nothing.

http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/interact/forms.html#access-keys

Jochem

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Re: Cross referential database integrity

2006-06-04 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Tom Kitta wrote:
> Note sure when you should use federated tables as far as MySQL and DB2 are
> concerned - didn't use anything but simple MySQL and never used DB2. For
> most part its MS SQL and Oracle.
> 
> Maybe someone else knows usage criteria for federated tables?

Don't use the MySQL version for this: they don't support transactions so 
they don't support referential integrity.

Jochem

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Re: Create keyboard shortcuts???

2006-06-04 Thread Ryan Guill
They are done with javascript, you will have to create an event
listener to listen for the keystroke and check to see what has focus,
if nothing has focus on the page or if nothing that matters has focus
then apply the action.

But you want to make sure the user does not have a text field focused
or the user could hit a C meaning to type it in and you change the
screen on them.

On 6/4/06, Johnny Le <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Do you know how to create gmail-like keyboard shortcuts? I mean I know how to 
> create shortcuts with Alt+..., but I don't know how to create shortcuts with 
> one letter like "C" for compose.  I searched google for "create shortcuts for 
> website" but I got nothing.
>
> Johnny
>
> 

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Create keyboard shortcuts???

2006-06-04 Thread Johnny Le
Hi,

Do you know how to create gmail-like keyboard shortcuts? I mean I know how to 
create shortcuts with Alt+..., but I don't know how to create shortcuts with 
one letter like "C" for compose.  I searched google for "create shortcuts for 
website" but I got nothing.

Johnny

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RE: CF Studio 5

2006-06-04 Thread dave
im sure

~Dave the disruptor~ 


From: "Snake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 8:44 AM
To: CF-Talk 
Subject: RE: CF Studio 5 

There is no better OS than the one I am using as far as I am concerned. 

-Original Message-
From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 04 June 2006 01:46
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF Studio 5

some people do more than cfm editing and some ppl choose to use a better os
as well

~Dave the disruptor~ 


From: "Snake" 
Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 7:50 PM
To: CF-Talk 
Subject: RE: CF Studio 5 

I have been using CFE for nearly 2 months now, and I still miss Homesite. In
fact I keep it open at the same time for the quick reference to tag editor,
function/tag insert and quick help.
CFE has a way to go before it beats CFStudio/homesite for CFML editing.

russ 

-Original Message-
From: Rey Bango [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 04 June 2006 00:32
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF Studio 5

Definitely do the videos. I'm fairly open to new ideas but again, as I
mentioned in an earlier post, I don't just jump to the next tool because its
the "in" thing. If you're videos do a good job of showing me the benefits,
I'd be more than happy to use CFE.

Rey...

Mark Drew wrote:
> I think if you dont have the time to learn a new tool, no matter the 
> size of the site, you just wont.
> 
> Nothing anyone can say will help you switch from one tool to another, 
> I would have to show you (ahh, yes people, I will be doing some 
> video's of using CFEclipse)
> 
> MD
> 
> 
> On 2 Jun 2006, at 20:55, Rey Bango wrote:
> 
> 
>>>you're serious about development and want integration with 
>>>subversion, then CFEclipse is the best editor for you.
>>
>>Sorry, I didn't realize that people developing small sites weren't 
>>serious about development. ;)
>>
>>Rey...
>>
>>
>>
> 
> 
> 



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RE: CF Studio 5

2006-06-04 Thread dave
i think they shaved it a little too deep 

~Dave the disruptor~ 


From: "Snake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 8:43 AM
To: CF-Talk 
Subject: RE: CF Studio 5 

I don't think you can turn a mohawk into a mullet. 

-Original Message-
From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 04 June 2006 01:44
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF Studio 5

You'd also get a mullett if they'd do it 4 ya ;)

~Dave the disruptor~ 


From: "Snake" 
Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 7:52 PM
To: CF-Talk 
Subject: RE: CF Studio 5 

I have to say, I would buy HS if they continued releasing it. 

-Original Message-
From: Rey Bango [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 04 June 2006 00:48
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF Studio 5

dave wrote:
> And why would Adobe add it? It's done, gone and I doubt they will 
> bring it
back for the 13 people who want it.

I would venture to say that there are quite a bit more than 13 people that
use it. I know of plenty that still love it. But I don't see Adobe ever
restarting development on a non-money making product.

Rey...



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RE: Cross referential database integrity

2006-06-04 Thread Tom Kitta
Note sure when you should use federated tables as far as MySQL and DB2 are
concerned - didn't use anything but simple MySQL and never used DB2. For
most part its MS SQL and Oracle.

Maybe someone else knows usage criteria for federated tables?

TK

-Original Message-
From: Denny Valliant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 7:56 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Cross referential database integrity


Out of curiosity, is this a good example of where you'd use federated tables
maybe,
if'n yer using mysql?
:d

On 6/2/06, Tom Kitta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Peter,
>
> Yes, referential integrity is frequently forgotten by people who design
> DBs,
> don't know why, maybe its sloppiness or they want to be hired later on to
> "clean up" the database?
>
> Since the tables don't change often I am planning to have a copy of them
> in
> a every child database. Later on triggers can be created on both child and
> master copies that would accommodate data updates and insertions. RI for
> the
> child tables that link to data in their own DB can be enforced using
> foreign
> key constraints.
>
> Probably best understood with example table "states", placed in DB
> "company". Another DB, "marketing" will also have table "states" that is a
> copy of the table in "company" DB. Other tables in "marketing" DB will
> have
> foreign keys in local copy of "states" table. In case a state name changes
> (Quebec province code changed few years ago) then the table "states" in
> "company" DB gets updated - if we want to the change can be reflected in
> its
> copy in "marketing" DB automatically via triggers.
>
> As for DBAs using triggers for RI on local DB tables - this is old school,
> not needed for something like 10 years with large DBs (don't know about
> MySQL & 10 years). As mentioned by you, declarative RI is the way to go.
>
> TK
>
>




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RE: Session Variables lost when moving from http to https - Please help!

2006-06-04 Thread Phillip Holmes
The cfapplication name in the application.cfm must be the same (presuming
the secure ssl area is on the same server). Just carry it over with the
urltoken var to be sure. I use urltoken on every post / url just in case
users don't have cookies on.

i.e.



Warmest Regards,
 
Phillip B. Holmes
http://phillipholmes.com

 

-Original Message-
From: cf coder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 12:30 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Session Variables lost when moving from http to https - Please
help!

I added a cfdump tag to dump the server and application strucutre and saw
the server dump but got an error for outputting the application dump:





I'll have to contact the hosting provider to see what's going on. It is not
making sense. I've probably got to undestand how the website is set up and
get some answers from the hosting provider. Thank you all for your help

- cfcoder



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Re: Session Variables lost when moving from http to https - Please help!

2006-06-04 Thread Matt Robertson
cf_coder wrote:
> I added a cfdump tag to dump the server and application strucutre and 
> saw the server dump but got an error for outputting the application 
> dump

I think if there's no application scope then that means you are running code 
without a cfapplication statement.  That would mean, off the top of my head, 
that the application, session and client scopes wouldn't exist.

HtH,

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Re: Session Variables lost when moving from http to https - Please help!

2006-06-04 Thread Matt Robertson
ColdFusion wrote:
>I thought the session variables are applied to the application 
>Which is mapped to the url of http://www.mysite.com
>
>Since https is a different protocol, I did not think you could in theory
>share those variables.

No thats not correct.  The session variables are mapped to an application which 
has a specific name, where that name is set with a cfapplication tag, typically 
in /Application.cfm.  This is a server side operation.  The protocol you use to 
reach the domain is client side and doesn't have anything to do with the 
picture with respect to the application, its identity, the session vars 
belonging to users within it etc.

Its the domain you have to match up to.  If you look at the client side cookie 
file (which contains the CFID and CFTOKEN that CF uses to maintain state) its 
named 'www.domain.com' or 'domain.com' and contains nothing inside to indicate 
any sort of  specific protocol.  You get one cookie file per domain.  Cross 
domains and you get a different CFID and CFTOKEN.

So by telling CF what the desired CFID and CFTOKEN is when the user crosses 
into secureland (via the query string; and you only need to do it once) either 
CF will match up the other scopes (client, cookie, session) for you or you need 
to do it yourself -- I forget which at the moment to be honest.  If CF doesn't 
do it then something like this in /Application.cfm would be in order:

if (isdefined ("url.CFID")) {
 if (CompareNoCase(client.CFID,url.CFID)) {
 client.CFID=url.CFID;
 client.CFTOKEN=url.CFTOKEN;
 cookie.CFID=url.CFID;
 cookie.CFTOKEN=url.CFTOKEN;
 }
}

I pulled the above from some old code.  Again it may not be even necessary. 

Where cf_coder is probably running into trouble is there is probably an 
Application.cfm in the mix somewhere on the secure side that is controlling the 
show and contradicting what s/he wants to do.  If you can't even dump the 
session scope, then I would take that to mean there is a cfapplication tag 
somewhere that is denying session management.  As a general rule, both client 
and session management must be enabled unless you want to do a lot of extra 
work, which I bet you don't.

1. Find that tag.  Search for the string "cfapplication" throughout the code 
and that will bring up all potential sources of trouble.

2. Correct the discrepancy in cfapplication settings.

3. Make sure the affected cfapplication statements have the same application 
name.  Without that you will have separate sessions no matter what other hoops 
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Re: How to convert a number into date?

2006-06-04 Thread Johnny Le
Someone must have epxerienced this problem before.  The number is the lastlogon 
date produced by the Active Directory (Windows 2000) when I used LDAP to query 
it.  Let me know if you know how to parse it now.

Johnny



>The number can be a misinterpreted representation of the Unix Epoch time.
>(The number of seconds passed since January 1 1970 00:00:00).
>
>But I believe your number is way too big.
>
>Please we need more info on the origins of your number.

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Re: Session Variables lost when moving from http to https - Please help!

2006-06-04 Thread cf coder
I added a cfdump tag to dump the server and application strucutre and saw the 
server dump but got an error for outputting the application dump:





I'll have to contact the hosting provider to see what's going on. It is not 
making sense. I've probably got to undestand how the website is set up and get 
some answers from the hosting provider. Thank you all for your help

- cfcoder

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Re: Generic database management tool

2006-06-04 Thread Jim Wright
On 6/4/06, Claude Schneegans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  >>I feel like these toolkit projects are probably more attuned to
> performance and stability issues, as they are being used for some
> fairly intense apps.
>
> Make no mistake, these tool kits (at least my ODBCMyAdmin) use a lot of
> Javascript,
> but what they produce is plain vanilla CFM and HTML code.
>

Understood...but the toolkits I was referring to in that message were
the AJAX/DHTML javascript libraries like dojo and rico, not database
toolkits like you are developing.

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RE: Session Variables lost when moving from http to https - Please help!

2006-06-04 Thread Snake

 

-Original Message-
From: cf coder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 04 June 2006 15:24
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Session Variables lost when moving from http to https - Please
help!

Is there a ColdFusion I can use on the https site to return the server
settings i.e webserver version, application name, etc etc.




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Re: Session Variables lost when moving from http to https - Please help!

2006-06-04 Thread James Holmes
I do secure logins on non-secure sites using a single SSl cert, by
passing the URLTOKEN in the URL, and all works well. As long as the
session ids are available in the URL, it should work whether it's http
or https.

On 6/4/06, Coldfusion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Correct me if I am wrong but I thought the session variables are applied to
> the application
> Which is mapped to the url of http://www.mysite.com
>
> Since https is a different protocol, I did not think you could in theory
> share those variables.
>
> What I did was shared the DSN and such. Passed a URL variable to the secured
> site such as the
> Basket ID and then pulled the data on the secured site and handled it
> accordingly.
>
> Everything was pulled from the DB and not in a session scope.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: James Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 9:40 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Session Variables lost when moving from http to https - Please
> help!
>
> If the session isn't available on that form post URL, using the same
> application name, something strange is going on. It's definitely the same
> physical server?
>
> On 6/4/06, cf coder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On viewbasket.cfm (wwwroot\order\viewbasket.cfm) I added the following
> code:
> >
> >  > action="https://securesite/proceedToSecuresite.cfm?#session.URLToken#";
> > method="post"> > border="0">
> >
> > I didn't include it in every single page. I thought I'll first test if
> this works.
>
> --
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> http://jr-holmes.coldfusionjournal.com/
>
>
>
> 

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Re: Generic database management tool

2006-06-04 Thread Claude Schneegans
 >>I feel like these toolkit projects are probably more attuned to
performance and stability issues, as they are being used for some
fairly intense apps.

Make no mistake, these tool kits (at least my ODBCMyAdmin) use a lot of 
Javascript,
but what they produce is plain vanilla CFM and HTML code.

-- 
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Re: Session Variables lost when moving from http to https - Please help!

2006-06-04 Thread cf coder
Is there a ColdFusion I can use on the https site to return the server settings 
i.e webserver version, application name, etc etc.


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Re: Session Variables lost when moving from http to https - Please help!

2006-06-04 Thread cf coder
Yes its definately the same physical server. I have no clue as to why the 
session, application, server, form, request scope variables are not available 
on the https domain.

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Re: how (the heck) to call functions on a jsp page?

2006-06-04 Thread Paul Hastings
stylo stylo wrote:
> Do you have a webpage with your address listed? I'd like to send a little 
> token of appreciation. 

there's a wishlist on my blog http://www.sustainablegis.com/blog/cfg11n/ 
otherwise the contact page on our website has the snail mail address.

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RE: Session Variables lost when moving from http to https - Please help!

2006-06-04 Thread Coldfusion
Correct me if I am wrong but I thought the session variables are applied to
the application
Which is mapped to the url of http://www.mysite.com

Since https is a different protocol, I did not think you could in theory
share those variables.

What I did was shared the DSN and such. Passed a URL variable to the secured
site such as the 
Basket ID and then pulled the data on the secured site and handled it
accordingly.

Everything was pulled from the DB and not in a session scope.


-Original Message-
From: James Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 9:40 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Session Variables lost when moving from http to https - Please
help!

If the session isn't available on that form post URL, using the same
application name, something strange is going on. It's definitely the same
physical server?

On 6/4/06, cf coder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On viewbasket.cfm (wwwroot\order\viewbasket.cfm) I added the following
code:
>
>  action="https://securesite/proceedToSecuresite.cfm?#session.URLToken#"; 
> method="post"> border="0">
>
> I didn't include it in every single page. I thought I'll first test if
this works.

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Re: Web Traffic Reports

2006-06-04 Thread Matt Williams
Thanks for the responses. I'll be checking into these. It looks like there
is still a waiting period for a Google Analytics account, unless I'm not
going to the rigtht place.


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Re: Session Variables lost when moving from http to https - Please help!

2006-06-04 Thread James Holmes
If the session isn't available on that form post URL, using the same
application name, something strange is going on. It's definitely the
same physical server?

On 6/4/06, cf coder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On viewbasket.cfm (wwwroot\order\viewbasket.cfm) I added the following code:
>
>  action="https://securesite/proceedToSecuresite.cfm?#session.URLToken#"; 
> method="post">
>
> I didn't include it in every single page. I thought I'll first test if this 
> works.

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Re: Session Variables lost when moving from http to https - Please help!

2006-06-04 Thread cf coder
On viewbasket.cfm (wwwroot\order\viewbasket.cfm) I added the following code:

https://securesite/proceedToSecuresite.cfm?#session.URLToken#"; 
method="post">

I didn't include it in every single page. I thought I'll first test if this 
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Re: Session Variables lost when moving from http to https - Please help!

2006-06-04 Thread James Holmes
Did you pass the token in every URL on the secure site?

On 6/4/06, cf coder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I tried that. I passed #session.URLToken# in the url query string but I still 
> got an error when I tried to dump the session scope variable,  var="#session#">
>
> Any ideas?
>
> PS: The main site domain and the secure site doamin names are not the same 
> although the codebase is the same.
>
> wwwroot\order\viewbasket.cfm (http)
> wwwroot\secure\proceedToSecuresite.cfm (https)
>
> Thanks
> - cfcoder
>
> 

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Re: Session Variables lost when moving from http to https - Please help!

2006-06-04 Thread cf coder
I tried that. I passed #session.URLToken# in the url query string but I still 
got an error when I tried to dump the session scope variable, 

Any ideas?

PS: The main site domain and the secure site doamin names are not the same 
although the codebase is the same.

wwwroot\order\viewbasket.cfm (http)
wwwroot\secure\proceedToSecuresite.cfm (https)

Thanks
- cfcoder

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RE: CF Studio 5

2006-06-04 Thread Snake
There is no better OS than the one I am using as far as I am concerned.  

-Original Message-
From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 04 June 2006 01:46
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF Studio 5

some people do more than cfm editing and some ppl choose to use a better os
as well

~Dave the disruptor~ 


From: "Snake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 7:50 PM
To: CF-Talk 
Subject: RE: CF Studio 5 

I have been using CFE for nearly 2 months now, and I still miss Homesite. In
fact I keep it open at the same time for the quick reference to tag editor,
function/tag insert and quick help.
CFE has a way to go before it beats CFStudio/homesite for CFML editing.

russ 

-Original Message-
From: Rey Bango [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 04 June 2006 00:32
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF Studio 5

Definitely do the videos. I'm fairly open to new ideas but again, as I
mentioned in an earlier post, I don't just jump to the next tool because its
the "in" thing. If you're videos do a good job of showing me the benefits,
I'd be more than happy to use CFE.

Rey...

Mark Drew wrote:
> I think if you dont have the time to learn a new tool, no matter the 
> size of the site, you just wont.
> 
> Nothing anyone can say will help you switch from one tool to another, 
> I would have to show you (ahh, yes people, I will be doing some 
> video's of using CFEclipse)
> 
> MD
> 
> 
> On 2 Jun 2006, at 20:55, Rey Bango wrote:
> 
> 
>>>you're serious about development and want integration with 
>>>subversion, then CFEclipse is the best editor for you.
>>
>>Sorry, I didn't realize that people developing small sites weren't 
>>serious about development. ;)
>>
>>Rey...
>>
>>
>>
> 
> 
> 





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RE: CF Studio 5

2006-06-04 Thread Snake
I don't think you can turn a mohawk into a mullet. 

-Original Message-
From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 04 June 2006 01:44
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF Studio 5

You'd also get a mullett if they'd do it 4 ya ;)

~Dave the disruptor~ 


From: "Snake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 7:52 PM
To: CF-Talk 
Subject: RE: CF Studio 5 

I have to say, I would buy HS if they continued releasing it. 

-Original Message-
From: Rey Bango [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 04 June 2006 00:48
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF Studio 5

dave wrote:
> And why would Adobe add it? It's done, gone and I doubt they will 
> bring it
back for the 13 people who want it.

I would venture to say that there are quite a bit more than 13 people that
use it. I know of plenty that still love it. But I don't see Adobe ever
restarting development on a non-money making product.

Rey...





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RE: CF Studio 5

2006-06-04 Thread Snake
I have to disagree with that.
Most developers (cf or otherwise) do not use every part of the language
every day, so therefore you do not know all the functions, methods,
attributes off the top of your head (unless your just a total nerd), this is
why editors like homesite are handy, so you do not have to pull your
manual/book out or search livedocs every time you forgot something.
The difference between using notepad or a good editor like homesite can the
difference between having adaquate code or great code because you had the
right tool for the job.

That's like saying if you can't build a house with no mechnical machinary
your not a real builder.

Russ
 
 

-Original Message-
From: Eric Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 04 June 2006 01:03
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF Studio 5

Homesite was originally designed for non-cf developers.  It was also used by
non-developers because it has a great interface.  HS+ was a bit of an
appeasement to the CF developers MM lied to when they trashed cf studio
after assuring us they wouldn't.  As far as open source goes, don't assume
that I don't see the trend.  I just don't like or agree that it is better.
Why is it that if I am not doing my code in some bloated text editor that I
am not really coding?  I would say the opposite is true.  If you can't do it
in notepad, then you don't know how to code.  You shouldn't rely on
crutches.  I make a lot of use out of the Jakarta Apache projects open
source code.  Like I said...most of the open source stuff is
inconsistent...most does not mean all...  If open source has won out, why
does MS and non-open source Unix have the greater market share?  In my 8
years of cf development, I have only run into 2 shops that use any open
source software in their production environment.  That doesn't sound like a
win for open source to me.

MMMPMMA,
Eric

-Original Message-
From: Denny Valliant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, 03 June 2006 16:49
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF Studio 5

On 6/3/06, Eric Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Its not an attitude...just an opinion.  I am also not a big fan of 
> open source products in general.  I have recommended cfeclipse to 
> people as it is not a bad product over all...I just don't like it.  I 
> couldn't get...or at least figure out how to get, the cf part to work 
> right.  I found the interface to be very non-intuitive and hard to 
> use.  It does have potential.
> I do like the fact that I can use it for multiple platforms...that is 
> pretty cool, though right now, I am not doing anything but cf, so that 
> does kill some of the cool factor for that.  Packaged installs would 
> be good.  I think a lot of us just don't like the whole Linux/open 
> source way of doing things when software is concerned.  I find most 
> gnu licensed products are more trouble that they are worth to install 
> and get running(mysql being an exception).  I find a lack of 
> consistency since you have multiple independent programmers working on 
> it.  The concept is great, but like many things, they look better on 
> paper.  Don't take it personally ;-)  You do have a strong following 
> that really like cfeclipse.
>
> Blessings,
> Eric


Hi Eric, blessed be!

  This is one of those age old arguments, Open vs Closed, and there are tons
of docs about development cycles and such, good reads.
They even have names for the types of cycles and whatnot.

I don't think your arguments hold water now adays tho.  If they ever did.
"Open" is so open, you'll find all types.  By definition.

Some are good, some not so good, but it's been a ton of fun watching the
evolution.

If you can't read the trends, you may still be thinking along old- school
lines of thought.  Old, biased lines of thought.

For years I've been using "open" solutions.  Just look at the Apache Group
for more examples of stuff that "just works", like MySQL.  Lots of examples.

Any large project will have multiple contributor's, or programmers, no
matter if it's open or closed.  I don't see "closed" as having some
intrinsic nature of consistency.  That's a MS meme; that for some reason,
people seem to buy into, even tho they USE MS products, and could obviously
see the fallacy of that idea.

OpenSource is the way of the future, and if you can't tell that by what's
been going on for the last bit, you haven't been paying attention.
I'm not saying everything will be free, but rather, that the people who
believed, for some time, in the ultimate power of "open" vs. "closed", have
been borne out, whereas, the folks who touted "closed is better", haven't.

If you're really "doing cf", you should LOVE the awesome power of eclipse
over HS+ or studio.  If you're just note-padding it, for all intents and
purposes, you aren't really coding.  Heh, that's a statement.

Seriously though, UML and all this nifty crap, made by coders, for coders,
beats the pants off of some corporate, "name it something friendly, like
'HOMEsite'" type method

RE: CF Studio 5

2006-06-04 Thread Snake
I also miss the HomeSite customizable toolbar too. Not just for the default
buttons (the table wizard was very handy), but the ability to add my own and
create VTML tag editor for my own tags and what not.

CFE has very few CFML/HTML options on the toolbar.

But perhaps you could also enlighten me as to some tags are auto completed
and some are not, is this editable somewhere?



Russ
 

-Original Message-
From: Mark Drew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 04 June 2006 00:58
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF Studio 5

Those are two features that are rather requested and I have already added
them (not sure if they are in the stable yet but definately will be in the
next release)

If you have a Dictionary View you can double click and enter functions and
tags. Also I have (in the nightly) a version of right clicking on a tag and
being able to edit it. its pretty neat.

So I am trying to make the product work well as requested by most people.

MD

On 4 Jun 2006, at 00:48, Snake wrote:

> I have been using CFE for nearly 2 months now, and I still miss 
> Homesite. In fact I keep it open at the same time for the quick 
> reference to tag editor, function/tag insert and quick help.
> CFE has a way to go before it beats CFStudio/homesite for CFML 
> editing.
>
> russ
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Rey Bango [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 04 June 2006 00:32
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: CF Studio 5
>
> Definitely do the videos. I'm fairly open to new ideas but again, as I
> mentioned in an earlier post, I don't just jump to the next tool  
> because its
> the "in" thing. If you're videos do a good job of showing me the  
> benefits,
> I'd be more than happy to use CFE.
>
> Rey...
>
> Mark Drew wrote:
>> I think if you dont have the time to learn a new tool, no matter the
>> size of the site, you just wont.
>>
>> Nothing anyone can say will help you switch from one tool to another,
>> I would have to show you (ahh, yes people, I will be doing some
>> video's of using CFEclipse)
>>
>> MD
>>
>>
>> On 2 Jun 2006, at 20:55, Rey Bango wrote:
>>
>>
 you're serious about development and want integration with
 subversion, then CFEclipse is the best editor for you.
>>>
>>> Sorry, I didn't realize that people developing small sites weren't
>>> serious about development. ;)
>>>
>>> Rey...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> 



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Re: how (the heck) to call functions on a jsp page?

2006-06-04 Thread stylo stylo
> i don't see where that code uses anything but java.util.zip. is there 
> more to this?

Two other pages, but they just call those two functions. Apparently whoever 
wrote it wasn't too swift in java.

It appears to be working in a quick test!

Thank you so much! Would have taken me forever to get all the syntax correct.

Do you have a webpage with your address listed? I'd like to send a little token 
of appreciation. 

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Re: Session Variables lost when moving from http to https - Please help!

2006-06-04 Thread James Holmes
No, you pass the SESSION.URLTOKEN in the URL, not the data. As long as
you are staying on the same machine, the session will then persist
across domains.

On 6/4/06, cf coder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello Will, I am storing query objects in request and session variables. I 
> can't send this info over the url query. The https link links to a different 
> domain because my site is hosted by a company that provides the access to 
> shared secure server.
>
> I understand the point made by someone earlier that the sessions are 
> associated with a single domain/server and there isn't a simple solution to 
> maintaining the sessions over multiple domains. I'm just not convinced that 
> the only way to keep the sessions over multiple domains is to pass the data 
> in url querystring or store the data in a temp table.


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Re: Session Variables lost when moving from http to https - Please help!

2006-06-04 Thread cf coder
Josh, its not just the request scope variables that are undefined, I tried 
dumping the application and session scope variables but got the same undefined 
error message.

-cfcoder

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Re: Session Variables lost when moving from http to https - Please help!

2006-06-04 Thread cf coder
Hello Will, I am storing query objects in request and session variables. I 
can't send this info over the url query. The https link links to a different 
domain because my site is hosted by a company that provides the access to 
shared secure server.

I understand the point made by someone earlier that the sessions are associated 
with a single domain/server and there isn't a simple solution to maintaining 
the sessions over multiple domains. I'm just not convinced that the only way to 
keep the sessions over multiple domains is to pass the data in url querystring 
or store the data in a temp table.

-cfcoder

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Re: CF Studio 5

2006-06-04 Thread Mark Drew
I must say I havent touched it, it used to work, I never needed it  
myself (different deployment process)

I want Adobe to release the API to the RDS plugin so I can do more of  
a team synchronising with RDS servers and the same with FTP. More  
like how Dreamweaver does it.

There are SO many features I am sure people want, if we get more  
contributors to the project then we can get it done.

MD


On 4 Jun 2006, at 02:56, Eric Roberts wrote:

> I never could get the FTP to work on cfeclipse.  I always has to  
> use an ftp
> program to upload my files if they were on a remote machine.  Has  
> that been
> fixed/improved mark?
>
> Eric
>
> -Original Message-
> From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, 03 June 2006 19:51
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: CF Studio 5
>
> Ok well there would be more than 13 but the point is just as you  
> say, they
> won't be doing something that they lose a ton of money on which  
> pretty much
> means there aren't enough people buying it to justify it.
>
> Personally, I thought setting hs up was a pita kinda like how  
> eclipse is now
> and to me they both have similar problems, the main one for me is  
> that if i
> am doing css stuff then I gotta upload every change and then go  
> browse it to
> see wtf is going on and then I gotta go to a pc to see how bad ie  
> broke it.
> At least in dw it cuts most of that out.
>
> And ftp is such a problem with both
>
> ~Dave the disruptor~
>
> 
> From: Rey Bango <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 7:50 PM
> To: CF-Talk 
> Subject: Re: CF Studio 5
>
> dave wrote:
>> And why would Adobe add it? It's done, gone and I doubt they will  
>> bring it
> back for the 13 people who want it.
>
> I would venture to say that there are quite a bit more than 13  
> people that
> use it. I know of plenty that still love it. But I don't see Adobe  
> ever
> restarting development on a non-money making product.
>
> Rey...
>
>
>
>
>
> 

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