RE: Granular Security Model
Thanks for this Ben, I've been working on a similar principle of the groups, you're defiantly right that it makes life easier. I've also started to work on the idea that if a user belongs to a group, they can have additional rights granted or indeed revoked, this gives the same level of control then as simple permissions, but allows the ease of access that the group method does. The database plan I'm currently working on would use an additional column in the permission/user table which defines if it's an additional 'granted' permission of a 'revoked' one, it's still in the early stages and might not work how I want it too, but fingers crossed. Thanks, Rob -Original Message- From: Porter, Benjamin L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 24 May 2007 19:32 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Granular Security Model I prefer something similar to what James mentioned but with the addition of groups or roles. The groups or roles would have a member table joining them 1 group/role to many permissions. A user could have either roles, and or permissions. If they had the role they by proxy had all the permissions the role has. When you start to have dozens of different permissions having roles / groups simplifies the management of them. -Original Message- From: James Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 6:16 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Granular Security Model This could be normalised so that there is a user table, an enlitlement table and an m:n joining table between them (user_entitlement or similar). This way only a true (1) is indicated in the DB and you can assume false for everything else (inlcuding when initialising the struct in CF). On 5/24/07, Robert Rawlins - Think Blue wrote: The structs method work nicely from a ColdFusion point of view, but I felt the database was a little untidy as you had a separate database column for each 'entitlement' which was set to 0 or 1 dependant on the permissions, each user then had a row in this table. This was then stored in the struct as key/value pairs with each entitlement having its one struct element and a 'true' or 'false' value, you can then do something like cfif Session.User.Entitlements.DeleteUser to check if the user has that permission. -- mxAjax / CFAjax docs and other useful articles: http://www.bifrost.com.au/blog/ ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJQ Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:279181 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: SOT: How do you stay up on blogs?
On 5/24/07, Aaron Roberson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After a conversation I had with Sean Corfield the other day and being asked me, Don't you read my blog? and I had to admit that I hadn't in a long while, I starting thinking about how much I am missing by not having a good system in place for reading RSS feeds. I use NetNewsWire Pro ($25) on Mac which synchronizes with NewsGator online (I think FeedDemon does this too?). I have 193 individual blog feeds in NNW - I don't subscribe to aggregators because I like to be able to view an individual blog's posts. I have feeds grouped into about a dozen broad categories with a few uncategorized stragglers. Some groups I just briefly skim headlines, others I pay more attention to. Some of the stragglers are important feeds (like BART service advisories!). I check feeds about twice a days, flagging interesting sounding articles for when I have a bit more time. I go through flagged items every couple of days. To be fair, one thing in my favor is that I'm a speed reader with a semi-eidetic memory so I'm able to just see interesting phrases when I glance over a page. Even so, there are techniques that everyone can learn to improve there reading speed and observation skills which help with information management... -- Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/ If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive. -- Margaret Atwood ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 The most significant release in over 10 years. Upgrade see new features. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJR Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:279182 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: How do you stay up on blogs?
I just use Safari MD On 5/25/07, Qasim Rasheed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been using Abilon on Windows for the past few years. HTH Qasim On 5/24/07, Ryan, Terrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm a big fan of Sharpreader. It's desktop. It treats feeds similar to mail, in that you can read/delete individual entries. It will pop up notification of new feeds. Etc. But it doesn't make noise for you. Terrence Ryan Senior Systems Programmer Wharton Computing and Information Technology E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Create Web Applications With ColdFusion MX7 Flex 2. Build powerful, scalable RIAs. Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJS Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:279183 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: SOT: How do you stay up on blogs?
| On 5/24/07, Aaron Roberson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | What do you use that works for you? I use a plugin software for Outlook, that is called intraVnews, and it works quite ok. It stores all blog posts as individual items, and I have set it to download the full pages too, not only the snippets that are in (some) RSS feeds. Then these feed items are synchronized up to the Exchange server I have access to, and also down to my Pocket Pc/PDA (where I actually do most of the reading, off-line - so it is great to have the full pages) http://www.intravnews.com/ ~| Macromedia ColdFusion MX7 Upgrade to MX7 experience time-saving features, more productivity. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJW Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:279184 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: How do you stay up on blogs?
Google reader, which is sitting nicely in my iGoogle homepage... This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions. Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Mark Drew To: CF-Talk Sent: Fri May 25 07:44:09 2007 Subject: Re: How do you stay up on blogs? I just use Safari MD On 5/25/07, Qasim Rasheed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been using Abilon on Windows for the past few years. HTH Qasim On 5/24/07, Ryan, Terrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm a big fan of Sharpreader. It's desktop. It treats feeds similar to mail, in that you can read/delete individual entries. It will pop up notification of new feeds. Etc. But it doesn't make noise for you. Terrence Ryan Senior Systems Programmer Wharton Computing and Information Technology E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Create Web Applications With ColdFusion MX7 Flex 2. Build powerful, scalable RIAs. Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJS Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:279185 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: DataSource Help- Very Urgent
Also ensure you access it via IP and not machine name first. This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions. Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: D Suresh To: CF-Talk Sent: Fri May 25 06:41:53 2007 Subject: Re: DataSource Help- Very Urgent Thanks for your sugessions. I had check the SQL Server Utlity and TCP/IP is enabled and its default port is 1433 Still I am the same error... Kindly could any one help to Sort out this issue... From: Jim Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: cf-talk@houseoffusion.com To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: Re: DataSource Help Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 08:31:21 -0400 On 5/24/07, D Suresh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Error msg is: Connection verification failed for data source: TestDB java.sql.SQLException: [Macromedia][SQLServer JDBC Driver]Error establishing socket. Connection refused: connect The root cause was that: java.sql.SQLException: [Macromedia][SQLServer JDBC Driver]Error establishing socket. Connection refused: connect Make sure that you can reach the sql server on the correct port... from the CF server, try: telnet yoursqlserver 1433 at a command prompt...you should get a empty window if the port is open. If you don't... -is TCP/IP enabled on the sql server -is there a firewall that would be blocking port 1433 -is the SQL instance set up to listen on a port other than 1433 ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJP Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:279186 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Possibly OT: Google stopped indexing site
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Re: DataSource Help- Very Urgent
D Suresh wrote: Thanks for your sugessions. I had check the SQL Server Utlity and TCP/IP is enabled and its default port is 1433 Still I am the same error... What Jim wrote was not to use the SQL Server Utlity, but to use telnet to check: Make sure that you can reach the sql server on the correct port... from the CF server, try: telnet yoursqlserver 1433 at a command prompt...you should get a empty window if the port is open. What was the result of that test when you ran it from the server with CF? Jochem ~| ColdFusion MX7 and Flex 2 Build sales marketing dashboard RIAâs for your business. Upgrade now http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2?sdid=RVJT Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:279188 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: How to Fetch records from a Ref Cursor returned by a PL/SQL procedure
Dave O wrote: They call one of our stored procedures which dynamically builds a SQL statement and returns to them via a RefCursor. The problem we are having is that the query could possibly return hundreds of thousands, or maybe a million or more rows. From a pl/sql point of view, after opening a cursor you must FETCH the rows from the Cursor, using program logic to determine when to continue and when to stop fetching(threshhold hit or end of cursor), then close the cursor. I don't know if Oracle or the Oracle JDBC drivers do something extra, but standard cursors can work the same with CF. See for instance: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:49577#265064 They claim that once they open the cursor it automatically fetches all rows until the end of the cu rsor, then closes it. That is the default behaviour of the CF implementation of a stored procedure call. If you want something else, you need to write it yourself as a bunch of queries in a transaction instead of using the cfstoredproc tag. Since they had issues with too much data crashing the Coldfusion server (out of memory) they have code in the pls/sql procedure that builds the dynamic sql statment for the ref cursor, that only fetches 100 rows at a time for display, using a (rownum BETWEEN 1 and 100) where clause delimiter. When the user clicks page 2, they call the stored procedure again and use (rownum BETWEEN 101 and 200), click page 4 and another call using (rownum BETWEEN 301 and 400). Unfortunately, oracle must process everything all over again (group by, sort, etc.) just to return the next 100 rows. For the larger queries that take up to 90 seconds to compute the results, this hit happens for every page (100 rows a page) that is selected. I am in utter shock that they are processing data like this. Could someone please let me know if its possible to programatically fetch records from the ref cursor, fetching rows as needed, say 100 at a time, then closing the cursor after the user is finished browsing the data and exits. You are missing an important point of web applications: once the first page has loaded in the browser, the user is finished. There is no way of knowing whether there will be another request for the second page or not. Web applications do not have a persistent connection between the browser and the server like desktop applications, so every request stands on its own. Jochem PS Please use an email client that wraps your lines at some sensible number of characters, this is really hard to read. ~| Macromedia ColdFusion MX7 Upgrade to MX7 experience time-saving features, more productivity. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJW Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:279189 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
ComputerWorld declares CF dead
Someone might want to have a word: http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasicarticleId=9020942pageNumber=2 -- Tom Chiverton Helping to unleash the wrath of hades on: http://thefalken.livejournal.com This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJQ Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:279190 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: ComputerWorld declares CF dead
Read the archives and erm, ignore it. This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions. Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Tom Chiverton To: CF-Talk Sent: Fri May 25 09:08:13 2007 Subject: ComputerWorld declares CF dead Someone might want to have a word: http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasicarti cleId=9020942pageNumber=2 -- Tom Chiverton Helping to unleash the wrath of hades on: http://thefalken.livejournal.com This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| ColdFusion MX7 and Flex 2 Build sales marketing dashboard RIAâs for your business. Upgrade now http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2?sdid=RVJT Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:279191 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: ComputerWorld declares CF dead
Also not to mention a sensational title on a public list to be indexed by Google which will no doubt do more damage than good for CF. As others have, just ignore it for the tripe that it is... :-) This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions. Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Tom Chiverton To: CF-Talk Sent: Fri May 25 09:08:13 2007 Subject: ComputerWorld declares CF dead Someone might want to have a word: http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasicarti cleId=9020942pageNumber=2 -- Tom Chiverton Helping to unleash the wrath of hades on: http://thefalken.livejournal.com This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Macromedia ColdFusion MX7 Upgrade to MX7 experience time-saving features, more productivity. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJW Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:279192 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: ComputerWorld declares CF dead
On Friday 25 May 2007, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) wrote: ignore it. Oh no, I'm distributing it to as many CF programmers as I can find ! -- Tom Chiverton Helping to enormously supply back-end solutions on: http://thefalken.livejournal.com This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Deploy Web Applications Quickly across the enterprise with ColdFusion MX7 Flex 2 Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:279193 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: SOT: How do you stay up on blogs?
On Friday 25 May 2007, Aaron Roberson wrote: I guess I'm looking for a desktop client dedicated to RSS feeds that will behave like Thunderbird Err, why not Thunderbird ? It's what I use at home - at work I've got the great Kontact KDE stuff. -- Tom Chiverton Helping to evangelistically introduce revolutionary design-patterns on: http://thefalken.livejournal.com This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| ColdFusion MX7 by Adobe® Dyncamically transform webcontent into Adobe PDF with new ColdFusion MX7. Free Trial. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJV Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:279194 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: SOT: How do you stay up on blogs?
Yeah, I use Thunderbird at home, iGoogle/Google Reader at work This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions. Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Tom Chiverton To: CF-Talk Sent: Fri May 25 09:19:39 2007 Subject: Re: SOT: How do you stay up on blogs? On Friday 25 May 2007, Aaron Roberson wrote: I guess I'm looking for a desktop client dedicated to RSS feeds that will behave like Thunderbird Err, why not Thunderbird ? It's what I use at home - at work I've got the great Kontact KDE stuff. -- Tom Chiverton Helping to evangelistically introduce revolutionary design-patterns on: http://thefalken.livejournal.com This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Macromedia ColdFusion MX7 Upgrade to MX7 experience time-saving features, more productivity. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJW Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:279195 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: ComputerWorld declares CF dead
You and I know it is a load of crap. But when my manager reads it he is going to think I am the one dishing out the B.S, not the 'reputable' magazine :-( On 5/25/07, Tom Chiverton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 25 May 2007, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) wrote: ignore it. Oh no, I'm distributing it to as many CF programmers as I can find ! -- Tom Chiverton Helping to enormously supply back-end solutions on: http://thefalken.livejournal.com This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Create Web Applications With ColdFusion MX7 Flex 2. Build powerful, scalable RIAs. Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJS Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:279196 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: ComputerWorld declares CF dead
Exactly... So it needs to be ignored and deleted. This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions. Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: AJ Mercer To: CF-Talk Sent: Fri May 25 09:28:15 2007 Subject: Re: ComputerWorld declares CF dead You and I know it is a load of crap. But when my manager reads it he is going to think I am the one dishing out the B.S, not the 'reputable' magazine :-( On 5/25/07, Tom Chiverton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 25 May 2007, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) wrote: ignore it. Oh no, I'm distributing it to as many CF programmers as I can find ! -- Tom Chiverton Helping to enormously supply back-end solutions on: http://thefalken.livejournal.com This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJP Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:279198 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: ComputerWorld declares CF dead
On Friday 25 May 2007, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) wrote: As others have, just ignore it for the tripe that it is... No, I think you need to, as others have suggested, leave a non-anonymous comment, and then go through all the other comments and click the thumbs up for a selection of pro-CF ones. Support ColdFusion, and ColdFusion will support you :-) -- Tom Chiverton Helping to synergistically streamline extensible ROI on: http://thefalken.livejournal.com This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJP Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:279197 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: ComputerWorld declares CF dead
On Friday 25 May 2007, AJ Mercer wrote: You and I know it is a load of crap. But when my manager reads it he is going to think I am the one dishing out the B.S, not the 'reputable' magazine :-( My manager has put a pro-CF comment on the article :-) -- Tom Chiverton Helping to quickly accelerate eligible architectures on: http://thefalken.livejournal.com This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJP Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:279199 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: insert error
On Thursday 24 May 2007, daniel kessler wrote: Oh man, how simple. Do I need to say that cfqueryparam takes care of that for you ? -- Tom Chiverton Helping to completely negotiate sticky platforms on: http://thefalken.livejournal.com This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| ColdFusion MX7 by Adobe® Dyncamically transform webcontent into Adobe PDF with new ColdFusion MX7. Free Trial. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJV Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:279200 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Possibly OT: Google stopped indexing site
Hi Will, You've quite a few problems here that need immediate attention: 1. Search engines can't follow javascript links. Each affect can be the same with a HTML/CSS combination 2. You've way too many keywords. They are pratically pointless keep it under 250 characters otherwise you may get flagged as spamming. 3. Something weird happens when you first go to the homepage. Forget about using the url session variables when the page loads. Also use URLSessionFormat() instead of keeping it in the URL. 4. You've pratically no content. You need to add some text or there is nothing for the spiders to go on There's plenty of other stuff you could do but this will get you back in and better positioned. You've a few inbound links but not many, if you change the above I reckon you will be reappearing/disappering in a few weeks. Then back in solidly in a couple of months. Good luck with it. ~| ColdFusion MX7 and Flex 2 Build sales marketing dashboard RIAâs for your business. Upgrade now http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2?sdid=RVJT Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:279201 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: ComputerWorld declares CF dead
I suggest if you really want to wake these people up send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] vice president/editor in chief Then maybe stupid stories will be edited correctly ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 The most significant release in over 10 years. Upgrade see new features. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJR Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:279202 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: How do you stay up on blogs?
After a conversation I had with Sean Corfield the other day and being asked me, Don't you read my blog? and I had to admit that I hadn't in a long while, I starting thinking about how much I am missing by not having a good system in place for reading RSS feeds. I actually quite like bloglines - its accessible on any computer anywhere I go and it does a fairly decent job of keeping track of what I have read so what I have read on one machine isn't marked new on another. It also makes it slightly easier to add feeds to my subscription in firefox. ~| Macromedia ColdFusion MX7 Upgrade to MX7 experience time-saving features, more productivity. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJW Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:279206 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: ComputerWorld declares CF dead
computerworld just write *premiums paid for ColdFusion programmers have dropped way off, according to Foote.* they did'nt mentioned no where that it's dead.may be the title is misleading. Thanks Srinivas * * On 5/25/07, Andrew Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Easy You get what you pay for. On 5/25/07, srinivas ganta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This may be true in countries where the Hr are cheap(less demand),i dont think this is true in US and Uk where employers always preferred to pay good sal to experianced programmers. Employers may not respect CF programmers(ie. salaries may not be as good as compared to java and other platforms) Since even cavemen can do CF...(is this true??) Employers may think that experianced and skilled programmers needed for working in platforms like Java and others, so they may pay higher than CF. what do you say? Thanks Srinivas On 5/25/07, Andrew Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I suggest if you really want to wake these people up send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] vice president/editor in chief Then maybe stupid stories will be edited correctly ~| Deploy Web Applications Quickly across the enterprise with ColdFusion MX7 Flex 2 Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:279208 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: ComputerWorld declares CF dead
Do you know what superceded means? On 5/25/07, srinivas ganta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: computerworld just write *premiums paid for ColdFusion programmers have dropped way off, according to Foote.* they did'nt mentioned no where that it's dead.may be the title is misleading. Thanks Srinivas * * On 5/25/07, Andrew Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Easy You get what you pay for. On 5/25/07, srinivas ganta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This may be true in countries where the Hr are cheap(less demand),i dont think this is true in US and Uk where employers always preferred to pay good sal to experianced programmers. Employers may not respect CF programmers(ie. salaries may not be as good as compared to java and other platforms) Since even cavemen can do CF...(is this true??) Employers may think that experianced and skilled programmers needed for working in platforms like Java and others, so they may pay higher than CF. what do you say? Thanks Srinivas On 5/25/07, Andrew Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I suggest if you really want to wake these people up send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] vice president/editor in chief Then maybe stupid stories will be edited correctly ~| Create Web Applications With ColdFusion MX7 Flex 2. Build powerful, scalable RIAs. Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJS Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:279209 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: [Macromedia][SequeLink JDBC Driver]Network problem, session aborted due to internal error in remote procedure call, connection closed
On Thursday 24 May 2007, Fernando Richter wrote: [Macromedia][SequeLink JDBC Driver]Network problem, session aborted due to internal error in remote procedure call, connection closed. Could there be a trigger or similar run by your SELECT ? Also, you really, really, want to cfqueryparam your parameters. Esp. ones the client sends like COOKIE. -- Tom Chiverton Helping to efficiently scale one-to-one e-tailers on: http://thefalken.livejournal.com This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 The most significant release in over 10 years. Upgrade see new features. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJR Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:279207 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: ComputerWorld declares CF dead
Easy You get what you pay for. On 5/25/07, srinivas ganta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This may be true in countries where the Hr are cheap(less demand),i dont think this is true in US and Uk where employers always preferred to pay good sal to experianced programmers. Employers may not respect CF programmers(ie. salaries may not be as good as compared to java and other platforms) Since even cavemen can do CF...(is this true??) Employers may think that experianced and skilled programmers needed for working in platforms like Java and others, so they may pay higher than CF. what do you say? Thanks Srinivas On 5/25/07, Andrew Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I suggest if you really want to wake these people up send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] vice president/editor in chief Then maybe stupid stories will be edited correctly ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJP Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:279205 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: ComputerWorld declares CF dead
This may be true in countries where the Hr are cheap(less demand),i dont think this is true in US and Uk where employers always preferred to pay good sal to experianced programmers. Employers may not respect CF programmers(ie. salaries may not be as good as compared to java and other platforms) Since even cavemen can do CF...(is this true??) Employers may think that experianced and skilled programmers needed for working in platforms like Java and others, so they may pay higher than CF. what do you say? Thanks Srinivas On 5/25/07, Andrew Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I suggest if you really want to wake these people up send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] vice president/editor in chief Then maybe stupid stories will be edited correctly ~| ColdFusion MX7 by Adobe® Dyncamically transform webcontent into Adobe PDF with new ColdFusion MX7. Free Trial. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJV Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:279203 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Possibly OT: Google stopped indexing site
Thanks Richard - I'll take a look at some of these issues, although we made the client aware of the content problem when they first commisioned the site - they were insistent it looks like it does! Appreciate the help. Regards Will -Original Message- From: Richard Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 25 May 2007 09:38 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Possibly OT: Google stopped indexing site Hi Will, You've quite a few problems here that need immediate attention: 1. Search engines can't follow javascript links. Each affect can be the same with a HTML/CSS combination 2. You've way too many keywords. They are pratically pointless keep it under 250 characters otherwise you may get flagged as spamming. 3. Something weird happens when you first go to the homepage. Forget about using the url session variables when the page loads. Also use URLSessionFormat() instead of keeping it in the URL. 4. You've pratically no content. You need to add some text or there is nothing for the spiders to go on There's plenty of other stuff you could do but this will get you back in and better positioned. You've a few inbound links but not many, if you change the above I reckon you will be reappearing/disappering in a few weeks. Then back in solidly in a couple of months. Good luck with it. ~| Create Web Applications With ColdFusion MX7 Flex 2. Build powerful, scalable RIAs. Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJS Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:279204 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: ComputerWorld declares CF dead
Meaning of superceded in their terms might be it's not up to the expectations or imaginations when it was introduced. so they might be used that word On 5/25/07, Andrew Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you know what superceded means? On 5/25/07, srinivas ganta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: computerworld just write *premiums paid for ColdFusion programmers have dropped way off, according to Foote.* they did'nt mentioned no where that it's dead.may be the title is misleading. Thanks Srinivas * * On 5/25/07, Andrew Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Easy You get what you pay for. On 5/25/07, srinivas ganta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This may be true in countries where the Hr are cheap(less demand),i dont think this is true in US and Uk where employers always preferred to pay good sal to experianced programmers. Employers may not respect CF programmers(ie. salaries may not be as good as compared to java and other platforms) Since even cavemen can do CF...(is this true??) Employers may think that experianced and skilled programmers needed for working in platforms like Java and others, so they may pay higher than CF. what do you say? Thanks Srinivas On 5/25/07, Andrew Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I suggest if you really want to wake these people up send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] vice president/editor in chief Then maybe stupid stories will be edited correctly ~| Macromedia ColdFusion MX7 Upgrade to MX7 experience time-saving features, more productivity. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJW Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:279211 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
PDF Creation
I need to create pdf's using CF 6.1 mx, does anyone have a favouritw tag for this, please? Jenny ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJP Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:279212 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: [Macromedia][SequeLink JDBC Driver]Network problem, session aborted due to internal error in remote procedure call, connection closed
Fernando Richter wrote: I have the same problem that you.. When I try execute the query, I see [Macromedia][SequeLink JDBC Driver]Network problem, session aborted due to internal error in remote procedure call, connection closed. Are you up to date with your JDBC hotfixes from Adobe? The last one fixed a bunch of these errors. Jochem ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 The most significant release in over 10 years. Upgrade see new features. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJR Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:279213 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: ComputerWorld declares CF dead
ok whatever, the paragraph is very clear. On 5/25/07, srinivas ganta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Meaning of superceded in their terms might be it's not up to the expectations or imaginations when it was introduced. so they might be used that word ~| Deploy Web Applications Quickly across the enterprise with ColdFusion MX7 Flex 2 Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:279214 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: PDF Creation
Jenny, There is many out there, but what do you want to create them from? Have a look at iText (is that what it is) which is the version that is embeded into CF, or is cfdocument in 6.1 i really can't remember... On 5/25/07, Jenny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I need to create pdf's using CF 6.1 mx, does anyone have a favouritw tag for this, please? Jenny ~| ColdFusion MX7 and Flex 2 Build sales marketing dashboard RIAâs for your business. Upgrade now http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2?sdid=RVJT Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:279215 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: ComputerWorld declares CF dead
Be sure and ask why VB6 and ASP classic are not listed ;-) -Original Message- From: Andrew Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 25 May 2007 09:50 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: ComputerWorld declares CF dead I suggest if you really want to wake these people up send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] vice president/editor in chief Then maybe stupid stories will be edited correctly ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 The most significant release in over 10 years. Upgrade see new features. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJR Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:279210 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: ComputerWorld declares CF dead
ComputerWorld may not know the inner and outer things of CF.only they might know that once microsoft like to buy the CF product.after allaire did'nt show any interest on the deal then only they went for ASP. so the world had great expectations on CF.but now atleast 80% of webmarket is belongs to other techs. so they may write like that.nothing is serious.pls just ignore this. Thanks On 5/25/07, Andrew Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ok whatever, the paragraph is very clear. On 5/25/07, srinivas ganta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Meaning of superceded in their terms might be it's not up to the expectations or imaginations when it was introduced. so they might be used that word ~| ColdFusion MX7 and Flex 2 Build sales marketing dashboard RIAâs for your business. Upgrade now http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2?sdid=RVJT Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:279216 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: ComputerWorld declares CF dead
On Friday 25 May 2007, srinivas ganta wrote: ComputerWorld may not know the inner and outer things of CF. Probably not. As Adobe spend, roughly, zero on marketing CF, a glossy hasn't landed on the authors desk recently. Ergo, it must be dead. Just like all the other non-glossy languages, such as C, in which his entire operating system is written, and will continue to be written :-) -- Tom Chiverton Helping to widespreadedly grow synergistic technologies on: http://thefalken.livejournal.com This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Deploy Web Applications Quickly across the enterprise with ColdFusion MX7 Flex 2 Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:279217 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: ComputerWorld declares CF dead
I think this also needs to move to CF-Community -Original Message- From: srinivas ganta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 25 May 2007 11:26 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: ComputerWorld declares CF dead ComputerWorld may not know the inner and outer things of CF.only they might know that once microsoft like to buy the CF product.after allaire did'nt show any interest on the deal then only they went for ASP. so the world had great expectations on CF.but now atleast 80% of webmarket is belongs to other techs. so they may write like that.nothing is serious.pls just ignore this. Thanks On 5/25/07, Andrew Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ok whatever, the paragraph is very clear. On 5/25/07, srinivas ganta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Meaning of superceded in their terms might be it's not up to the expectations or imaginations when it was introduced. so they might be used that word ~| Create Web Applications With ColdFusion MX7 Flex 2. Build powerful, scalable RIAs. Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJS Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:279218 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: ComputerWorld declares CF dead
On 5/25/07, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Be sure and ask why VB6 and ASP classic are not listed ;-) While I'm no huge fan of either, if you look at objective metrics like Tiobe http://www.tiobe.com/tpci.htm (VB6 #5 vs CF #32) or the latest info from Tim O'Reilly's book sales information http://radar.oreilly.com/archives/2007/05/state_of_the_co_10.html (10% market share among the major language sellers) you'll see that CF is by those two metrics not very popular. It's still a poorly researched, sensational, and idiotic article in ComputerWolrd (eg using the quote from an AS/400 shop to talk about the PC network being dead? An *AS/400* shop?) but I think we're all fooling ourselves if we think ColdFusion is poised for huge growth. The other interesting thing to take away from the O'Reilly article is the growth of *Actionscript* (I'll confirm w/ my buddy there that they include Flex there) but that's pretty solidly growing which is good for Adobe and good for our community. The Flex session/BOF at RailsConf in Portland last week overflowed into the hall which was interesting to say the least. -Original Message- From: Andrew Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 25 May 2007 09:50 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: ComputerWorld declares CF dead I suggest if you really want to wake these people up send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] vice president/editor in chief Then maybe stupid stories will be edited correctly ~| Macromedia ColdFusion MX7 Upgrade to MX7 experience time-saving features, more productivity. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJW Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:279220 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: ComputerWorld declares CF dead, the fools
As it looks like this thread is going to last some time, I thought I'd change the subject to something a little more appropriate should somebody chance upon it in a search. ;) ~| ColdFusion MX7 by Adobe® Dyncamically transform webcontent into Adobe PDF with new ColdFusion MX7. Free Trial. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJV Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:279219 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
insert error
Use to_date(#datevar#,'DD-MON-) replaceing #datvar# wtht he variable creating that time stamp. I originally had it that way, mainly cause to_date was something that I learned recently and I wanted to use my new trick and solidify it in my head - it also would've have been much simpler. I removed it because I was having the errors that I didn't understand and thought to make the code as clear to myself as I could - it's own form of simplification. I'm just getting to coding for the day, but I suspect adding the quotes around text items will cure it. thank you. daniel ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJP Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:279221 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: ComputerWorld declares CF dead
God bless Ben, Tim and the team for NOT plugging Scorpio across the USA. We would welcome them downunder! It appears you did not appreciate their efforts! ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 The most significant release in over 10 years. Upgrade see new features. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJR Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:279222 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: PDF Creation
cfdocument format=pdf scale=100 fontembed= pagetype=A4 orientation=portrait /cfdocument On 5/25/07, Jenny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I need to create pdf's using CF 6.1 mx, does anyone have a favouritw tag for this, please? Jenny ~| Create Web Applications With ColdFusion MX7 Flex 2. Build powerful, scalable RIAs. Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJS Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:279223 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: ComputerWorld declares CF dead
My paycheck would have to disagree with you on that. The company I work for also does a lot of java development and I am paid higher than they are paid. Eric -Original Message- From: srinivas ganta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 4:11 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: ComputerWorld declares CF dead This may be true in countries where the Hr are cheap(less demand),i dont think this is true in US and Uk where employers always preferred to pay good sal to experianced programmers. Employers may not respect CF programmers(ie. salaries may not be as good as compared to java and other platforms) Since even cavemen can do CF...(is this true??) Employers may think that experianced and skilled programmers needed for working in platforms like Java and others, so they may pay higher than CF. what do you say? Thanks Srinivas On 5/25/07, Andrew Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I suggest if you really want to wake these people up send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] vice president/editor in chief Then maybe stupid stories will be edited correctly ~| ColdFusion MX7 and Flex 2 Build sales marketing dashboard RIAâs for your business. Upgrade now http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2?sdid=RVJT Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:279224 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: ComputerWorld declares CF dead
When the title says dead or dying...that is not misleading...it is misinforming. Bt then again, wheat do you expect from a rag that has become the technical equivalent of the National Enquirer...much like PC Magazine and many other once reputable computer rags. Eric -Original Message- From: srinivas ganta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 4:45 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: ComputerWorld declares CF dead computerworld just write *premiums paid for ColdFusion programmers have dropped way off, according to Foote.* they did'nt mentioned no where that it's dead.may be the title is misleading. Thanks Srinivas * * On 5/25/07, Andrew Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Easy You get what you pay for. On 5/25/07, srinivas ganta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This may be true in countries where the Hr are cheap(less demand),i dont think this is true in US and Uk where employers always preferred to pay good sal to experianced programmers. Employers may not respect CF programmers(ie. salaries may not be as good as compared to java and other platforms) Since even cavemen can do CF...(is this true??) Employers may think that experianced and skilled programmers needed for working in platforms like Java and others, so they may pay higher than CF. what do you say? Thanks Srinivas On 5/25/07, Andrew Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I suggest if you really want to wake these people up send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] vice president/editor in chief Then maybe stupid stories will be edited correctly ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 The most significant release in over 10 years. Upgrade see new features. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJR Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:279225 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: How do you stay up on blogs?
Google reader (reader.google.com) is the shiznit. Makes it super easy to keep up with my blogs, and all the data is stored on google's server so it knows what I've read and what I haven't no matter what computer I'm reading from. Rick ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJP Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:279226 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
insert error
Oh man, how simple. Do I need to say that cfqueryparam takes care of that for you ? Sure, point out that it would've been easy for me to do that ;-) Thing is, I was just trying to do a one-time move of data from a text file to a database and then was going to not use the code again. They never should have had their data written to a text file for use. So, I thought, no need to go with all the usual precautions - just write it and be done with the task. I often get knocked for taking the time to do what I consider the right thing instead of getting the job done. Clearly in this instance, it wasted most of a day and was in no way a time saver. Big-doh. daniel ~| Create Web Applications With ColdFusion MX7 Flex 2. Build powerful, scalable RIAs. Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJS Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:279229 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: insert error
On Friday 25 May 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thing is, I was just trying to do a one-time move of data from a text file to a database and then was going to not use the code again. They never CFQueryParam would have speed it up, at the very least, even in one-time jobs. -- Tom Chiverton Helping to synergistically conquer synergistic clusters on: http://thefalken.livejournal.com This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| ColdFusion MX7 and Flex 2 Build sales marketing dashboard RIAâs for your business. Upgrade now http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2?sdid=RVJT Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:279231 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: ComputerWorld declares CF dead
For comments on the computerworld article, please email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Have at it! ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJQ Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:279230 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: ComputerWorld declares CF dead
We actually had this discussion about Tiobe and O'rielly. One of the main reasons books sales are low is that CFWACK and the Advanced book are about all we need. Ben, Ray, and the other authors did such a great job...we don't really need O'Rielly's book (I actually thought their book was quite useless...I bought the CFMX7 book and it is just collecting dust on my shelf) I am not sure where Tiobe gets their info, but I sure see a lot of large corps using CF. Using book sales to determine the popularity of a language is about as useful as asking a shop that still uses as/400. ColdFusion may neer be a giant thanks to lackluster marketing by Allaire, Macromedia, and now Adobe,but it certainly is not in it's death throes. I get calls almost every day for contracts dealing with ColdFusion and I get paid quit well for them. Eric -Original Message- From: John Paul Ashenfelter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 5:49 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: ComputerWorld declares CF dead On 5/25/07, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Be sure and ask why VB6 and ASP classic are not listed ;-) While I'm no huge fan of either, if you look at objective metrics like Tiobe http://www.tiobe.com/tpci.htm (VB6 #5 vs CF #32) or the latest info from Tim O'Reilly's book sales information http://radar.oreilly.com/archives/2007/05/state_of_the_co_10.html (10% market share among the major language sellers) you'll see that CF is by those two metrics not very popular. It's still a poorly researched, sensational, and idiotic article in ComputerWolrd (eg using the quote from an AS/400 shop to talk about the PC network being dead? An *AS/400* shop?) but I think we're all fooling ourselves if we think ColdFusion is poised for huge growth. The other interesting thing to take away from the O'Reilly article is the growth of *Actionscript* (I'll confirm w/ my buddy there that they include Flex there) but that's pretty solidly growing which is good for Adobe and good for our community. The Flex session/BOF at RailsConf in Portland last week overflowed into the hall which was interesting to say the least. -Original Message- From: Andrew Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 25 May 2007 09:50 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: ComputerWorld declares CF dead I suggest if you really want to wake these people up send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] vice president/editor in chief Then maybe stupid stories will be edited correctly ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 The most significant release in over 10 years. Upgrade see new features. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJR Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:279228 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: ComputerWorld declares CF dead
it seems you are a consultant(contractor) to ur Employer On 5/25/07, Eric Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My paycheck would have to disagree with you on that. The company I work for also does a lot of java development and I am paid higher than they are paid. Eric -Original Message- From: srinivas ganta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 4:11 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: ComputerWorld declares CF dead This may be true in countries where the Hr are cheap(less demand),i dont think this is true in US and Uk where employers always preferred to pay good sal to experianced programmers. Employers may not respect CF programmers(ie. salaries may not be as good as compared to java and other platforms) Since even cavemen can do CF...(is this true??) Employers may think that experianced and skilled programmers needed for working in platforms like Java and others, so they may pay higher than CF. what do you say? Thanks Srinivas On 5/25/07, Andrew Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I suggest if you really want to wake these people up send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] vice president/editor in chief Then maybe stupid stories will be edited correctly ~| Macromedia ColdFusion MX7 Upgrade to MX7 experience time-saving features, more productivity. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJW Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:279227 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: ComputerWorld declares CF dead
It means that the writer didn't use a spell-checker, It's superseded. -Original Message- From: Andrew Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 4:49 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: ComputerWorld declares CF dead Do you know what superceded means? On 5/25/07, srinivas ganta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: computerworld just write *premiums paid for ColdFusion programmers have dropped way off, according to Foote.* they did'nt mentioned no where that it's dead.may be the title is misleading. Thanks Srinivas * * On 5/25/07, Andrew Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Easy You get what you pay for. On 5/25/07, srinivas ganta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This may be true in countries where the Hr are cheap(less demand),i dont think this is true in US and Uk where employers always preferred to pay good sal to experianced programmers. Employers may not respect CF programmers(ie. salaries may not be as good as compared to java and other platforms) Since even cavemen can do CF...(is this true??) Employers may think that experianced and skilled programmers needed for working in platforms like Java and others, so they may pay higher than CF. what do you say? Thanks Srinivas On 5/25/07, Andrew Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I suggest if you really want to wake these people up send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] vice president/editor in chief Then maybe stupid stories will be edited correctly ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJP Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:279232 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Absolutely amazing article - who the hell writes this stuff?
But you'd never see an OS written in PHP or Ruby either. That argument doesn't hold water. -Original Message- From: Russ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 12:48 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Absolutely amazing article - who the hell writes this stuff? ColdFusion would definitely be a bad idea to teach in college as a first language, specifically because it is so radically different from other languages. ColdFusion should be taught as an elective or as part of a web programming course. Colleges teach theory. ColdFusion doesn't contain much theory, it's mostly implementation details. Whatever theory ColdFusion has is what Adobe has adapted from Java. ColdFusion does not do everything other languages do. It does a lot of the things that other languages do, and it makes those things easier to do. For things which are not possible in ColdFusion, you can just right to Java, and either write your code in Java using CF, or just write straight Java classes and call them from CF. There are things, however, that ColdFusion does not do, and will never do. For example, you will never see an operating system written in ColdFusion. We all love CF, but let's stay in touch with reality. Just my $0.02, Russ -Original Message- From: Ravi Gehlot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 12:46 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Absolutely amazing article - who the hell writes this stuff? Whoever wrote that article doesn't really understand how powerful ColdFusion really is and how easy it is to learn ColdFusion. In fact, it is so much easier than other languages that it might even be one of the major languages thought in colleges for newbies. Yet easier than other languages it does everything else the other languages also do. Ravi. Les Mizzell wrote: http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=printArticleBas ica rticleId=9020942 We're smart people. Somebody else write a counter article and submit it for publication!!! ~| Macromedia ColdFusion MX7 Upgrade to MX7 experience time-saving features, more productivity. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJW Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:279235 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: SOT: How do you stay up on blogs?
Jerry... That sounds really interesting. Care to offer up a screenshot of your iGoogle? I suspect that I'm not using anyhwere NEAR the power for my home page. -Original Message- From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 10:24 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: SOT: How do you stay up on blogs? i use google custom pages, now called iGoogle. I have tabs and sets of feeds for different disciplines, like coding,news business, woodworking, hiking/kayaking/outdoors, green architectures, etc. On 5/24/07, Aaron Roberson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After a conversation I had with Sean Corfield the other day and being asked me, Don't you read my blog? and I had to admit that I hadn't in a long while, I starting thinking about how much I am missing by not having a good system in place for reading RSS feeds. I have tried using the built in readers in FF and IE7, but they don't really cater to my madness (mainly because I have to manually check the live bookmarks for new feeds). I also tried some online readers but I have to log in and manually check the feeds. The closest thing to working for me was the RSS reader built into Thunderbird, but it cluttered my folder pain (I have too many folders cluttering it as it is). I guess I'm looking for a desktop client dedicated to RSS feeds that will behave like Thunderbird but would play a sound in Windows and in Mac animate the icon (and play a sound, optionally) when a feed is updated. In order to be effective for my lack of aggressiveness, it would be nice if the client started on boot. What do you use that works for you? ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJP Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:279234 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: How do you stay up on blogs?
I personally use Google homepage. It does everything that I need, and since I have it set as my start page, I get to read updates each time I load a browser window. -Original Message- From: Aaron Roberson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 9:59 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: SOT: How do you stay up on blogs? After a conversation I had with Sean Corfield the other day and being asked me, Don't you read my blog? and I had to admit that I hadn't in a long while, I starting thinking about how much I am missing by not having a good system in place for reading RSS feeds. I have tried using the built in readers in FF and IE7, but they don't really cater to my madness (mainly because I have to manually check the live bookmarks for new feeds). I also tried some online readers but I have to log in and manually check the feeds. The closest thing to working for me was the RSS reader built into Thunderbird, but it cluttered my folder pain (I have too many folders cluttering it as it is). I guess I'm looking for a desktop client dedicated to RSS feeds that will behave like Thunderbird but would play a sound in Windows and in Mac animate the icon (and play a sound, optionally) when a feed is updated. In order to be effective for my lack of aggressiveness, it would be nice if the client started on boot. What do you use that works for you? ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJQ Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:279233 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
ComputerWorld, CF, and reality...
(Title changed to protect the search engines;) I also agree that someone doesn't have an understanding of the ColdFusion job market. I recently had updated my resume on some of the job sites, and received literally hundreds of opportunities: http://blog.cutterscrossing.com/index.cfm/2007/4/17/The-Current-ColdFusion-Job-Market I would also say that Adobe's marketing of CF is a heavy step up from the efforts of Allaire or Macromedia. Most of us do not see the heavy one-on-one behind the scenes stuff that's been going on with Adobe and the federal sector, which probably accounts for a large percentage of new server licenses (in the overall picture, but I'm speculating). I also think you will see a very large increase in ColdFusion marketing from Adobe when Scorpio is released. And, if you read through all of the posts following the Scorpio Tour stops, I'm pretty sure that Adobe will have quite a lot to say about their newest server product offering once it goes public. http://blog.cutterscrossing.com/index.cfm/2007/5/10/Scorpio-Tour-Nashville-Final-Wrapup It's a great time to be a ColdFusion developer, and it's only getting better. Steve Cutter Blades Adobe Certified Professional Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer _ http://blog.cutterscrossing.com Eric Roberts wrote: We actually had this discussion about Tiobe and O'rielly. One of the main reasons books sales are low is that CFWACK and the Advanced book are about all we need. Ben, Ray, and the other authors did such a great job...we don't really need O'Rielly's book (I actually thought their book was quite useless...I bought the CFMX7 book and it is just collecting dust on my shelf) I am not sure where Tiobe gets their info, but I sure see a lot of large corps using CF. Using book sales to determine the popularity of a language is about as useful as asking a shop that still uses as/400. ColdFusion may neer be a giant thanks to lackluster marketing by Allaire, Macromedia, and now Adobe,but it certainly is not in it's death throes. I get calls almost every day for contracts dealing with ColdFusion and I get paid quit well for them. Eric -Original Message- From: John Paul Ashenfelter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 5:49 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: ComputerWorld declares CF dead On 5/25/07, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Be sure and ask why VB6 and ASP classic are not listed ;-) While I'm no huge fan of either, if you look at objective metrics like Tiobe http://www.tiobe.com/tpci.htm (VB6 #5 vs CF #32) or the latest info from Tim O'Reilly's book sales information http://radar.oreilly.com/archives/2007/05/state_of_the_co_10.html (10% market share among the major language sellers) you'll see that CF is by those two metrics not very popular. It's still a poorly researched, sensational, and idiotic article in ComputerWolrd (eg using the quote from an AS/400 shop to talk about the PC network being dead? An *AS/400* shop?) but I think we're all fooling ourselves if we think ColdFusion is poised for huge growth. The other interesting thing to take away from the O'Reilly article is the growth of *Actionscript* (I'll confirm w/ my buddy there that they include Flex there) but that's pretty solidly growing which is good for Adobe and good for our community. The Flex session/BOF at RailsConf in Portland last week overflowed into the hall which was interesting to say the least. -Original Message- From: Andrew Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 25 May 2007 09:50 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: ComputerWorld declares CF dead I suggest if you really want to wake these people up send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] vice president/editor in chief Then maybe stupid stories will be edited correctly ~| Create Web Applications With ColdFusion MX7 Flex 2. Build powerful, scalable RIAs. Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJS Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:279236 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Tiobe, O'Reilly Radar, and niches [WAS Re: ComputerWorld declares CF dead]
On 5/25/07, Eric Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We actually had this discussion about Tiobe and O'rielly. One of the main reasons books sales are low is that CFWACK and the Advanced book are about all we need. Ben, Ray, and the other authors did such a great job...we don't really need O'Rielly's book (I actually thought their book was quite useless...I bought the CFMX7 book and it is just collecting dust on my shelf) O'Reilly's data is sourced from *Bookscan* -- _all_ the books in print, not from their own sales. Tim's been doing this report for about 3 years to look at the overall book market and historically it's actually a fairly good indicator of what's up and coming (eg saw the Ruby bubble just before Rails hit mainstream). But it is what it is -- sales of books, no more and no less. Personally, I'd be terrified to hire a programmer who's sole instruction in CF and programming was the CFWACK book -- nothing against the book per se, but it's certainly not a book for developing a high-end programmer, nor does it seem intended to be. It's an intro to ColdFusion, but no more useful to producing a good programmer than HeadFirst PHP+MySQL or Java in 24 hours or any introductory book, and frankly there aren't any advanced and current books on CF outside of a few self-published ones. Having written a few books (including ColdFusion ones) I'd suggest that the reason you don't see the ColdFusion books is that there's not a market for them. Note that in the O'Reilly numbers, ActionScript is way up there (and rightly so between Flash, Flex, and Apollo). There's a market there. I am not sure where Tiobe gets their info, http://www.tiobe.com/tiobe_index/tpci_definition.htm explains it all. Not necessarily the best metric, but it's definable, reproducible, and clear but I sure see a lot of large corps using CF. And RPG. And COBOL. And SmallTalk (which tracks containers on most of the container ships in the world, among other things). And Ruby/Rails. And Java. And .NET. etc That really doesn't mean much. Using book sales to determine the popularity of a language is about as useful as asking a shop that still uses as/400. I'd doubt that. Sales of books are requests for information -- whether that's a personal request (hey, I need to learn a new language), problem request (there's got to be a better way for me to do this flash stuff), or business request (train everybody on python) a sale is a sale. It's one measure of popularity. Bookscan is similar in most respects to Soundscan or whoever it is that tracks music sales. Personally, I think Avril Lavine's new album blows, but it's #3 and that says something about record sales, and potentially about music popularity. I can complain all I want about what a great band Trent Wagler and Steel Wheels is for example, but Avril Lavine still wins on record sales. I'm guessing lots of you have heard of Avril Lavine, but guessing most haven't heard of Trent -- doesn't make Trent bad, but it's a harder sell to book him at the Staples Center in LA than her. And I know who I'm gonna hear if I switch over to a Top20 radio station -- just like I know I'm going to see job postings for Java and .NET much more frequently than CF. ColdFusion may neer be a giant thanks to lackluster marketing by Allaire, Macromedia, and now Adobe,but it certainly is not in it's death throes. I get calls almost every day for contracts dealing with ColdFusion and I get paid quit well for them. I agree that CF is not in it's death throes -- but as I said, it's also not poised for huge growth. I do plenty of ColdFusion work, but I see more and more request for Rails and some specific PHP app/platforms like Drupal and Joomla!. And I'm getting more and more requests for CF-Rails conversions. *And* I'm not getting anywhere near the requests for Java web applications (Struts/Tapestry/etc) -- and this experience jibes with a lot of the small/mid shops that I work with/thru. There's still a solid market for COBOL programmers. And Smalltalk programmers. And ADA programmers. And so on. Ironically, as the pool of programmers for some of these languages go down, the pay correspondingly goes up (just as lots of good java programmers drove the price of good java programmers down). In a market economy skills are rewarded by the need for that skill, not always it's usefulness or external value. Chad Fowler's book My Job Went to India and All I Got Was This Book has some great discussions about improving your career by becoming an expert in the *trailing* edge -- picking software that is being passed over by new programmers but still in demand (eg COBOL) but realizing when it's time to broaden your market potential before the wave crashes into the beach. This is the converse of jumping on the leading edge and possibly getting crushed by making the wrong choice (eg Groovy) but possibly riding high (eg Rails). There's plenty of interesting stuff out there -- Lua, Erlang, D, Ragel, etc, etc and
Re: SOT: How do you stay up on blogs?
On 5/25/07, Sean Corfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/24/07, Aaron Roberson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After a conversation I had with Sean Corfield the other day and being asked me, Don't you read my blog? and I had to admit that I hadn't in a long while, I starting thinking about how much I am missing by not having a good system in place for reading RSS feeds. I use NetNewsWire Pro ($25) on Mac which synchronizes with NewsGator online (I think FeedDemon does this too?). FeedDemon syncs with NewsGator as well. Newsgator built web and Outlook clients for RSS aggregation and then bought the best of breed on PC (FeedDemon) and Mac (NetNewsWire). I've used both and FeedDemon is one of three apps that I still run under Parallels on my Mac b/c I just can't live without it. NetNewsWire Pro was pretty hot too, and both have new versions out/beta but between the two clients and the online access it's hard to beat them. I have 193 individual blog feeds in NNW - I don't subscribe to aggregators because I like to be able to view an individual blog's posts. I have feeds grouped into about a dozen broad categories with a few uncategorized stragglers. Some groups I just briefly skim headlines, others I pay more attention to. Some of the stragglers are important feeds (like BART service advisories!). I check feeds about twice a days, flagging interesting sounding articles for when I have a bit more time. I go through flagged items every couple of days. I do a similar thing. FeedDemon also lets you set up searches and updates those everytime the feeds update, so you can search for something like Fusebox and all posts relating to that word get stored in the Search like it's a separate feed (basically it's a mini-aggregator using the search terms). To be fair, one thing in my favor is that I'm a speed reader with a semi-eidetic memory so I'm able to just see interesting phrases when I glance over a page. Even so, there are techniques that everyone can learn to improve there reading speed and observation skills which help with information management... I also find that over time, I know enough from the titles from a lot of my regular feeds whether it's going to be useful. Jeremy Zawodny has great info on MySQL and Y!, but a lot also about flying so I know now how to mentally filter it -- just like Sean and that stuff about cats ;) -- Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/ If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive. -- Margaret Atwood ~| Macromedia ColdFusion MX7 Upgrade to MX7 experience time-saving features, more productivity. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJW Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:279238 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: ComputerWorld, CF, and reality...
It's a great time to be a ColdFusion developer, and it's only getting better. Just to pipe in on this thread - I'm working at a startup, a new web shop with good contact for a client base. We have made the decision to make our product line using CF with the concept that we will have other services accessing the system externally via webservice or stored procedures. However we're not turning away .NET work... we're simply outsourcing it to India. Our primary finanicial backer is an Indian company and their representative told us that .NET programmers are literally a dime a dozen. What this means to us is that we can make good money off .NET by outsourcing it and we can make good money off CF by building a solid, resellable product line internally. Happy Friday, everyone! ~| Create Web Applications With ColdFusion MX7 Flex 2. Build powerful, scalable RIAs. Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJS Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:279239 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
MS SQL 2000 and ntext
Hi there, I'm running CF7 and MS SQL 2000 on this project I'm working on. I'm using a simple cfquery to get a row of data. cfquery datasource=DB name=Data SELECT * FROM datatable WHERE id = 439 /cfquery Very, very simple query Now, one of these fields is of type ntext. It contains xml data. What I'm trying to do is to retrieve the xml data from this field... what seems to happen, is that the xml isn't returned in it's entirety. It's cut off at a certain point. Any ideas? This table is actually used by (and created with) a .NET program my employer purchased, and the data is used in this program without a problem. I know this is slightly vague Thanks, -- Yves Arsenault Love is the only force capable of transforming an enemy into a friend. --Martin Luther King, Jr. ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJP Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:279241 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: MS SQL 2000 and ntext
I also seem to reember that there is some kind of restriction on the database drivers that restricts the size of a string that can be returned? I will try to remember how I dealt this though it was a long time ago! -Original Message- From: Andy McShane [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 25 May 2007 15:14 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: MS SQL 2000 and ntext Check this link, I think this is the same as the problem you are having, I had the same thing in the past. http://www.cfcdeveloper.com/index.cfm/2007/1/9/XML-from-SQL -Original Message- From: Yves Arsenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 25 May 2007 15:00 To: CF-Talk Subject: MS SQL 2000 and ntext Hi there, I'm running CF7 and MS SQL 2000 on this project I'm working on. I'm using a simple cfquery to get a row of data. cfquery datasource=DB name=Data SELECT * FROM datatable WHERE id = 439 /cfquery Very, very simple query Now, one of these fields is of type ntext. It contains xml data. What I'm trying to do is to retrieve the xml data from this field... what seems to happen, is that the xml isn't returned in it's entirety. It's cut off at a certain point. Any ideas? This table is actually used by (and created with) a .NET program my employer purchased, and the data is used in this program without a problem. I know this is slightly vague Thanks, -- Yves Arsenault Love is the only force capable of transforming an enemy into a friend. --Martin Luther King, Jr. ~| ColdFusion MX7 and Flex 2 Build sales marketing dashboard RIAâs for your business. Upgrade now http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2?sdid=RVJT Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:279245 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: How do you stay up on blogs?
I've got my blogroll in a folder on my bookmarks bar in Safari, e.g.: Boomarks Bar - Blogs - Personal - Dreamhost Status - xkcd - The Lactivist - Cute Overload - Order of the Stick - ColdFusion - CF Updates - Sean Corfield - Ben Forta - etc - Web Dev - Eric Meyer - Creative Bits - Creative Guy - Script.aculo.us - Prototype - RedMine releases - Mac - Textmate - Adium - Apple Insider - Computers - BS Blog - StorageMojo - MozillaZine - AnandTech (the full list is much longer) Every half-hour (or something) Safari polls all of the RSS feeds to see if any articles have updated, and if they do it adds/updates a counter beside the item. That itself is cool, but Safari takes it one step further and shows you at the folder level how many unread articles there are on all of the items in that folder, and this totals back up through the folder hierarchy so that the Blogs item on my bookmarks bar will show me the running count. When I get to work in the morning it'll typically have 100 or more, most of which are pretty quick to glance through. Damien McKenna Web Developer The LIMU Company ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJQ Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:279246 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: How do you stay up on blogs?
I use Flock as my RSS aggregator. It's a great tool. -Original Message- From: Aaron Roberson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 9:59 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: SOT: How do you stay up on blogs? After a conversation I had with Sean Corfield the other day and being asked me, Don't you read my blog? and I had to admit that I hadn't in a long while, I starting thinking about how much I am missing by not having a good system in place for reading RSS feeds. I have tried using the built in readers in FF and IE7, but they don't really cater to my madness (mainly because I have to manually check the live bookmarks for new feeds). I also tried some online readers but I have to log in and manually check the feeds. The closest thing to working for me was the RSS reader built into Thunderbird, but it cluttered my folder pain (I have too many folders cluttering it as it is). I guess I'm looking for a desktop client dedicated to RSS feeds that will behave like Thunderbird but would play a sound in Windows and in Mac animate the icon (and play a sound, optionally) when a feed is updated. In order to be effective for my lack of aggressiveness, it would be nice if the client started on boot. What do you use that works for you? ~| Deploy Web Applications Quickly across the enterprise with ColdFusion MX7 Flex 2 Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:279247 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Conditiial form requirements
I am writing a form has a Project Type radio selection. Values being New or Existing. If the Project type is Existing a text field needs to be required with that would contain the existing projects code, if it is a New project that field should not be required. I'm having trouble figuring this one out. ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJP Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:279242 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: ComputerWorld, CF, and reality...
On 5/25/07, Cutter (CFRelated) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (Title changed to protect the search engines;) I also agree that someone doesn't have an understanding of the ColdFusion job market. I recently had updated my resume on some of the job sites, and received literally hundreds of opportunities: http://blog.cutterscrossing.com/index.cfm/2007/4/17/The-Current-ColdFusion-Job-Market I have a pretty good idea of the mid-Atlantic region, having dealt with finding/hiring/vetting CF folks for a couple of clients over the past two years. I agree, it's hard to find a good one so we responded to just about anyone who sent in a resume with CF on it. The percentage of resumes than were worth a call was barely 20% and the number of qualified candidates was more like 5%. If I were a recruiter, I'd desperately contact any new person with CF on their resume to fill the pool of open slots. Personally, I think there's a pool of open CF jobs that's bigger than the qualified candidates, so from that perspective it's a programmer's market which is good for any of us with ColdFusion skills. But from a more absolute perspective, as far as total number of job postings (Tiobe for instance is a proxy for that) go, there's a fairly small pool of CF jobs on the *absolute* scale. Of course there was a very small number of jobs for Ruby programmers a year ago :) At least there's no doubting the passion of the ColdFusion community :) -- John Paul Ashenfelter CTO/Transitionpoint (blog) http://www.ashenfelter.com (email) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| ColdFusion MX7 by Adobe® Dyncamically transform webcontent into Adobe PDF with new ColdFusion MX7. Free Trial. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJV Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:279240 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: MS SQL 2000 and ntext
On Friday 25 May 2007, Yves Arsenault wrote: It's cut off at a certain point. Is there a CF admin datasource setting for that ? -- Tom Chiverton Helping to autoschediastically seize mission-critical environments on: http://thefalken.livejournal.com This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Deploy Web Applications Quickly across the enterprise with ColdFusion MX7 Flex 2 Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:279244 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: MS SQL 2000 and ntext
Hi there, I'm running CF7 and MS SQL 2000 on this project I'm working on. I'm using a simple cfquery to get a row of data. Now, one of these fields is of type ntext. It contains xml data. What I'm trying to do is to retrieve the xml data from this field... what seems to happen, is that the xml isn't returned in it's entirety. It's cut off at a certain point. Any ideas? You need to enabled CLOBs and BLOBs in the advanced section of the datasource. Open up your CFAdmin web UI. Edit the datasource. Click advanced. You will see two checkboxes (CLOBs and BLOBs). Check them both. Update. Voila. ~| Macromedia ColdFusion MX7 Upgrade to MX7 experience time-saving features, more productivity. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJW Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:279248 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: dreamweaver 8
M!ke that worked great. I always forget about snippets. ~Terry -Original Message- From: Dawson, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 16:21 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: dreamweaver 8 Create a snippet, then reassign the keyboard shortcut. M!ke -Original Message- From: Bader, Terrence C CTR MARMC, 231 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 1:23 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: dreamweaver 8 ok, recently started working with DW 8 vs 7/mx that I have used for a long while now. In the old version I could hit my surround # key and type with the cursor on the inside of the #s, but now in 8 it puts the cursor outside of the #s. I find this quite annoying. Does anyone know if I missed a preference somewhere to get that particular functionality back? ~Terry ~| Macromedia ColdFusion MX7 Upgrade to MX7 experience time-saving features, more productivity. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJW Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:279249 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: MS SQL 2000 and ntext
Wasn't quite what I was looking for although, this will certainly be VERY useful! Thanks Andy! Yves On 5/25/07, Andy McShane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Check this link, I think this is the same as the problem you are having, I had the same thing in the past. http://www.cfcdeveloper.com/index.cfm/2007/1/9/XML-from-SQL -Original Message- From: Yves Arsenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 25 May 2007 15:00 To: CF-Talk Subject: MS SQL 2000 and ntext Hi there, I'm running CF7 and MS SQL 2000 on this project I'm working on. I'm using a simple cfquery to get a row of data. cfquery datasource=DB name=Data SELECT * FROM datatable WHERE id = 439 /cfquery Very, very simple query Now, one of these fields is of type ntext. It contains xml data. What I'm trying to do is to retrieve the xml data from this field... what seems to happen, is that the xml isn't returned in it's entirety. It's cut off at a certain point. Any ideas? This table is actually used by (and created with) a .NET program my employer purchased, and the data is used in this program without a problem. I know this is slightly vague Thanks, -- Yves Arsenault Love is the only force capable of transforming an enemy into a friend. --Martin Luther King, Jr. ~| Macromedia ColdFusion MX7 Upgrade to MX7 experience time-saving features, more productivity. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJW Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:279250 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: MS SQL 2000 and ntext
Just as I got this email I had just enabled them. Thanks James! And Tom also, who gave me the hint to look there! Thanks all, Yves On 5/25/07, James Wolfe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there, I'm running CF7 and MS SQL 2000 on this project I'm working on. I'm using a simple cfquery to get a row of data. Now, one of these fields is of type ntext. It contains xml data. What I'm trying to do is to retrieve the xml data from this field... what seems to happen, is that the xml isn't returned in it's entirety. It's cut off at a certain point. Any ideas? You need to enabled CLOBs and BLOBs in the advanced section of the datasource. Open up your CFAdmin web UI. Edit the datasource. Click advanced. You will see two checkboxes (CLOBs and BLOBs). Check them both. Update. Voila. ~| Macromedia ColdFusion MX7 Upgrade to MX7 experience time-saving features, more productivity. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJW Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:279251 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Tiobe, O'Reilly Radar, and niches [WAS Re: ComputerWorld decl ares CF dead]
Having written a few books (including ColdFusion ones) I'd suggest that the reason you don't see the ColdFusion books is that there's not a market for them. Note that in the O'Reilly numbers, ActionScript is way up there (and rightly so between Flash, Flex, and Apollo). There's a market there. I think that the reason there isn't much of a marked for CF books is that CF is very easy. If you know ASP[.NET]/JSP/PHP/etc, it is very easy to learn CF. but I sure see a lot of large corps using CF. And RPG. And COBOL. And SmallTalk (which tracks containers on most of the container ships in the world, among other things). And Ruby/Rails. And Java. And .NET. etc That really doesn't mean much. I see large organizations (government, nonprofits and corporate) using CF to build new applications. Sometimes, these are even line-of-business applications. That does mean something. To the extent that you're web-enabling application infrastructure, CF is just as good and valid a choice today as it was in its youth. But it's a niche. Of course it is! It always has been. It's good for exactly one thing - developing web applications. However, I strongly suspect that it will be around in significant amounts long after the cool kids have dropped Ruby/Rails for the next big thing. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! This email has been processed by SmoothZap - www.smoothwall.net ~| Macromedia ColdFusion MX7 Upgrade to MX7 experience time-saving features, more productivity. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJW Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:279253 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Absolutely amazing article - who the hell writes this stuff?
But you'd never see an OS written in PHP or Ruby either. That argument doesn't hold water. I don't think PHP would be a good choice for teaching basic programming, either. Ruby would be suitable for that, on the other hand. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! This email has been processed by SmoothZap - www.smoothwall.net ~| Macromedia ColdFusion MX7 Upgrade to MX7 experience time-saving features, more productivity. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJW Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:279252 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: SOT: How do you stay up on blogs?
I agree and I do pretty much the same thing. It makes for easy scanning of new items. There is also a Google Reader Gadget (that's what each of those portlets is called now) that will show up to 10 new posts of your Google Reader subscriptions. -Original Message- From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 11:24 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: SOT: How do you stay up on blogs? i use google custom pages, now called iGoogle. I have tabs and sets of feeds for different disciplines, like coding,news business, woodworking, hiking/kayaking/outdoors, green architectures, etc. ~| Macromedia ColdFusion MX7 Upgrade to MX7 experience time-saving features, more productivity. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJW Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:279254 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Tiobe, O'Reilly Radar, and niches [WAS Re: ComputerWorld decl ares CF dead]
Having written a few books (including ColdFusion ones) I'd suggest that the reason you don't see the ColdFusion books is that there's not a market for them. No offense to the books that you or Ben Forta have written, but I'm in the market for a good CF book. I just havent found even one good reference book written on MX7. By far the best language reference book that I have in my arsenal is the OReilly Javascript: The Definitive Guide (4th edition). If there was an equivalent CF book, I'd buy it in a minute. ~| Deploy Web Applications Quickly across the enterprise with ColdFusion MX7 Flex 2 Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:279255 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: MS SQL 2000 and ntext
Check this link, I think this is the same as the problem you are having, I had the same thing in the past. http://www.cfcdeveloper.com/index.cfm/2007/1/9/XML-from-SQL -Original Message- From: Yves Arsenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 25 May 2007 15:00 To: CF-Talk Subject: MS SQL 2000 and ntext Hi there, I'm running CF7 and MS SQL 2000 on this project I'm working on. I'm using a simple cfquery to get a row of data. cfquery datasource=DB name=Data SELECT * FROM datatable WHERE id = 439 /cfquery Very, very simple query Now, one of these fields is of type ntext. It contains xml data. What I'm trying to do is to retrieve the xml data from this field... what seems to happen, is that the xml isn't returned in it's entirety. It's cut off at a certain point. Any ideas? This table is actually used by (and created with) a .NET program my employer purchased, and the data is used in this program without a problem. I know this is slightly vague Thanks, -- Yves Arsenault Love is the only force capable of transforming an enemy into a friend. --Martin Luther King, Jr. ~| Deploy Web Applications Quickly across the enterprise with ColdFusion MX7 Flex 2 Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:279243 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Tiobe, O'Reilly Radar, and niches [WAS Re: ComputerWorld decl ares CF dead]
All I can suggest is the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. Issue 1 was all of the CF 7 features you have not been using but should (like application.cfc). Issue 2 was all CF-OOP and Frameworks. Issue 3 just came out dealing with business issues such as How to Avoid Unpaid Consulting, Deconstructing the Consulting Contact and Making Google Pay. The goal of the FAQU is to have up-to-date information that the community needs on their bookshelf. And we're the only CF journal in print as CFDJ has moved to PDF only. :) Having written a few books (including ColdFusion ones) I'd suggest that the reason you don't see the ColdFusion books is that there's not a market for them. No offense to the books that you or Ben Forta have written, but I'm in the market for a good CF book. I just havent found even one good reference book written on MX7. By far the best language reference book that I have in my arsenal is the OReilly Javascript: The Definitive Guide (4th edition). If there was an equivalent CF book, I'd buy it in a minute. ~| Macromedia ColdFusion MX7 Upgrade to MX7 experience time-saving features, more productivity. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJW Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:279257 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: MS SQL 2000 and ntext
I ran into something similar a week or so ago, don't know if this will work for your issue, but instead of SELECT *, try selecting the specific fields you need and put the ntext field as the very last in your select statement. Maybe maybe not shrug Bob Hi there, I'm running CF7 and MS SQL 2000 on this project I'm working on. I'm using a simple cfquery to get a row of data. cfquery datasource=DB name=Data SELECT * FROM datatable WHERE id = 439 /cfquery Very, very simple query Now, one of these fields is of type ntext. It contains xml data. What I'm trying to do is to retrieve the xml data from this field... what seems to happen, is that the xml isn't returned in it's entirety. It's cut off at a certain point. Any ideas? This table is actually used by (and created with) a .NET program my employer purchased, and the data is used in this program without a problem. I know this is slightly vague Thanks, -- Yves Arsenault Love is the only force capable of transforming an enemy into a friend. --Martin Luther King, Jr. ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJQ Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:279256 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Tiobe, O'Reilly Radar, and niches [WAS Re: ComputerWorld decl ares CF dead]
By far the best language reference book that I have in my arsenal is the OReilly Javascript: The Definitive Guide (4th edition). If there was an equivalent CF book, I'd buy it in a minute. There are few books on any language that approach the quality of this book. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! This email has been processed by SmoothZap - www.smoothwall.net ~| Deploy Web Applications Quickly across the enterprise with ColdFusion MX7 Flex 2 Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:279258 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Tiobe, O'Reilly Radar, and niches [WAS Re: ComputerWorld decl ares CF dead]
All I can suggest is the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. Issue 1 was all of the CF 7 features you have not been using but should (like application.cfc). Issue 2 was all CF-OOP and Frameworks. Issue 3 just came out dealing with business issues such as How to Avoid Unpaid Consulting, Deconstructing the Consulting Contact and Making Google Pay. The goal of the FAQU is to have up-to-date information that the community needs on their bookshelf. And we're the only CF journal in print as CFDJ has moved to PDF only. :) Having read your pamphlet in the past I can honestly say that it is informative and helpful. At the same time, barring shamelessly patting ourselves on the back, it seems to me that the fact that there are ZERO quality reference books on MX7 is doing serious damage to the image of CF and perhaps its actual adoption rate as well. How it reflects badly on CF is rather obvious after reading the articles of CF is dead: No one buys books on CF. However, I believe that one of the ways people learn and get excited about a new language is through the quality books written on the topic and I think that the real lack of any quality books really hurts CF adoption a great deal. On a personal level, I find the ULTRA slow online documentation that is more-than-rarely incorrent or incomplete is a massive annoyance. just my $0.02 ~| ColdFusion MX7 by Adobe® Dyncamically transform webcontent into Adobe PDF with new ColdFusion MX7. Free Trial. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJV Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:279259 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Help a Newbie?
From what I can see, you are never actually checking if the form is submitted before doing anything. From your example, you could use: cfif structkeyexists(form, submit) A form was submitted, get the userInfo, put it in the db cfelse A form was not submitted, do nothing /cfif Also not sure why you have commented out the cfparam's ~| Macromedia ColdFusion MX7 Upgrade to MX7 experience time-saving features, more productivity. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJW Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:279260 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: ComputerWorld declares CF dead
-Original Message- From: Andrew Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 5:19 AM Subject: Re: ComputerWorld declares CF dead You get what you pay for. No you don't. Just because something is expensive doesn't make it the best (Oracle), and just because something is free doesn't make it the worst (PostgreSQL). Do research and pick what works best for you for the given situation, then decide if it is within budget; if not go to your next best fit, and so on. If it were the case everyone would be buying my $50,000 CMS. Damien McKenna Web Developer The LIMU Company ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 The most significant release in over 10 years. Upgrade see new features. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJR Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:279261 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: SOT: How do you stay up on blogs?
On 5/24/07, Sean Corfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have 193 individual blog feeds in NNW If anyone is interested, my feed list is always available (with groups) at this URL: http://corfield.org/articles/MySubscriptions.opml Be warned: there are a couple of unusual blogs in the Personal group that some people may find offensive... -- Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/ If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive. -- Margaret Atwood ~| ColdFusion MX7 and Flex 2 Build sales marketing dashboard RIAâs for your business. Upgrade now http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2?sdid=RVJT Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:279262 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Tiobe, O'Reilly Radar, and niches [WAS Re: ComputerWorld decl ares CF dead]
On 5/25/07, Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course it is! It always has been. It's good for exactly one thing - developing web applications. I'm going to take issue with that because pretty much all of the CF projects I've been involved with for the last few years have been middleware: web services, scheduled tasks and event gateways with hardly ever an actual web UI (beyond some minimal admin console). I suspect there's much more of that going on, hidden inside corporate firewalls, than we might imagine... -- Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/ If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive. -- Margaret Atwood ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 The most significant release in over 10 years. Upgrade see new features. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJR Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:279263 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Newbie!! Cookies/CFADMIN
I have been just handed over an application (existing production environment), we are having some issues, but in short this is what I need to do. 1) Remove all cfid/cftoken from URLS, make use of cookies. 2) Check to see if user has cookies turned on/of If off, redirect user to a new page that is being created to guide them to turn on cookies. 3) In The CFADMIN, i noticed that session is being maintained in the registry. I changed to an existing data source, and the data source has the cdata and cglobal tables. But I am looking in the tables, but do not see any data. Is that normal. How can I identify what method is being used to ensure that the Database is being used. Thanks. ~| ColdFusion MX7 and Flex 2 Build sales marketing dashboard RIAâs for your business. Upgrade now http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2?sdid=RVJT Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:279265 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Raymond's Sounding Chart Problem
Running cfmx 6.1 on windows 2000. I can't get stats page to display the charts. With format set to flash, no display. With format set to jpg, i get the image missing icon. Can anyone help? ~| Create Web Applications With ColdFusion MX7 Flex 2. Build powerful, scalable RIAs. Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJS Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:279264 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: SOT: How do you stay up on blogs?
RSS Bandit was my Windows app of choice, but Google has Reader working exactly how I like reading RSS feeds, so Google Reader is my only RSS feed reader now days. ~| Macromedia ColdFusion MX7 Upgrade to MX7 experience time-saving features, more productivity. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJW Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:279266 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: SOT: How do you stay up on blogs?
Can I just add that the most surprising nice feature of Vista so far is the way it treats RSS feeds? It's all very slick. I have two monitors, so I've set my gadgets to the right-most monitor, with the news reader set to the top, and whenever I run across a feed in IE7, I like how I can subscribe to it and it's available system-wide. It shows up in my news reader gadget, and the new Outlook 2007's rss folder immediately. Prior to that, I was using Sage for Firefox, which was my all time favorite seamless way to integrate RSS into my daily reading habit. - Original Message - From: Terry Schmitt To: CF-Talk Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 12:51 PM Subject: Re: SOT: How do you stay up on blogs? RSS Bandit was my Windows app of choice, but Google has Reader working exactly how I like reading RSS feeds, so Google Reader is my only RSS feed reader now days. ~| ColdFusion MX7 and Flex 2 Build sales marketing dashboard RIAâs for your business. Upgrade now http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2?sdid=RVJT Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:279267 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: ComputerWorld declares CF dead
Damien, I think Andrew was referring to developers not the server language. Damien McKenna wrote: -Original Message- From: Andrew Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 5:19 AM Subject: Re: ComputerWorld declares CF dead You get what you pay for. No you don't. Just because something is expensive doesn't make it the best (Oracle), and just because something is free doesn't make it the worst (PostgreSQL). Do research and pick what works best for you for the given situation, then decide if it is within budget; if not go to your next best fit, and so on. If it were the case everyone would be buying my $50,000 CMS. Damien McKenna Web Developer The LIMU Company ~| ColdFusion MX7 by Adobe® Dyncamically transform webcontent into Adobe PDF with new ColdFusion MX7. Free Trial. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJV Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:279268 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Scope Memory
Is there any way (outside of getting CF8 in a few months) that I can access the amount of memory that a given scope is using? Thanks, Chris -- http://cjordan.us ~| ColdFusion MX7 by Adobe® Dyncamically transform webcontent into Adobe PDF with new ColdFusion MX7. Free Trial. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJV Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:279269 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Conditiial form requirements
Do you want the field to be locked/unlocked based on the selection, and do you want to do your validation client side or server side? Either way is possible, but you'll have to handle your validation manually, as opposed to via cfinput required... On 5/25/07, Michael Beins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am writing a form has a Project Type radio selection. Values being New or Existing. If the Project type is Existing a text field needs to be required with that would contain the existing projects code, if it is a New project that field should not be required. I'm having trouble figuring this one out. ~| Deploy Web Applications Quickly across the enterprise with ColdFusion MX7 Flex 2 Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:279270 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Scope Memory
You can dump out the scope to get a relative idea of its content. If a component is stored in a scope, you need to also take into account inheritance as well as it's internally stored variables as well as method overhead. All this will get you a relative idea of size. I do this with clients to find out if they've gone crazy with their sessions. A HUGE session stored per user for a long time can cause a memory spike if the site is heavily hit by bots and there is no adjustment for the bot hits. Is there any way (outside of getting CF8 in a few months) that I can access the amount of memory that a given scope is using? Thanks, Chris -- http://cjordan.us ~| ColdFusion MX7 and Flex 2 Build sales marketing dashboard RIAâs for your business. Upgrade now http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2?sdid=RVJT Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:279271 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Tiobe, O'Reilly Radar, and niches [WAS Re: ComputerWorld decl ares CF dead]
Of course it is! It always has been. It's good for exactly one thing - developing web applications. I'm going to take issue with that because pretty much all of the CF projects I've been involved with for the last few years have been middleware: web services, scheduled tasks and event gateways with hardly ever an actual web UI (beyond some minimal admin console). I suspect there's much more of that going on, hidden inside corporate firewalls, than we might imagine... I submit to you that (a) web services and other middleware are an integral part of web applications, and (b) you are not representative of the typical CF programmer, and those projects are not representative of the typical CF project. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! This email has been processed by SmoothZap - www.smoothwall.net ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJQ Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:279272 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Raymond's Sounding Chart Problem
Running cfmx 6.1 on windows 2000. I can't get stats page to display the charts. With format set to flash, no display. With format set to jpg, i get the image missing icon. Can anyone help? These are served up using virtual URLs, which have the pattern /CFIDE/GraphData.cfm if I recall correctly. Depending on your web server configuration, it may be rejecting these requests. I think you can fix this by simply creating a valid file (that doesn't do anything) at that path. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! This email has been processed by SmoothZap - www.smoothwall.net ~| ColdFusion MX7 and Flex 2 Build sales marketing dashboard RIAâs for your business. Upgrade now http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2?sdid=RVJT Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:279273 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Newbie!! Cookies/CFADMIN
3) In The CFADMIN, i noticed that session is being maintained in the registry. I changed to an existing data source, and the data source has the cdata and cglobal tables. Session variables are stored in server memory, not in the registry or anywhere else. Client variables are what you're looking at in the CF Administrator. Are you actually using client variables or session variables? Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! This email has been processed by SmoothZap - www.smoothwall.net ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 The most significant release in over 10 years. Upgrade see new features. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJR Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:279274 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Scope Memory
Is there any way (outside of getting CF8 in a few months) that I can access the amount of memory that a given scope is using? Not exactly, but you can fiddle around with the amount of memory allocated to different generations within the JVM. For example, information about compiled files is stored in the permanent generation, while regular variables are presumably stored in the young generation. I would assume that session and application variables would likely be stored in the tenured generation. http://www.petefreitag.com/articles/gctuning/ http://www.petefreitag.com/item/508.cfm http://www.robisen.com/ Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! This email has been processed by SmoothZap - www.smoothwall.net ~| ColdFusion MX7 and Flex 2 Build sales marketing dashboard RIAâs for your business. Upgrade now http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2?sdid=RVJT Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:279275 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
2 problems that I can figure out
This is a two part plee for help. 1) We are trying to develop a data entry site for an event that my school is fixing to host. Currently, we are trying to make a dynamic drop-down list that will populate with schools once a state is selected. For the time being we have the all of the States in one table and all of the schools in another table on an oracle server. The table that contains the Schools also contain the schools' name, state and city. Basically I want to be able to select a state from a drop-down list and have the schools' names populate another drop down list. 2) Currently we have a function on the site that would allow a person to enter their data then if they wanted, go back and change it. The problem is, the URL shows the record number (EX. Edit.cfm?ID=10488) I want that to either be a random variable or just hidden; so it would look like Edit.cfm or Edit.cfm?ID=145289689a699866548. I would appreciate any help that can be provided, Thanks. -- Robert Nunez II IS Technical Services Student Assistant ~| Deploy Web Applications Quickly across the enterprise with ColdFusion MX7 Flex 2 Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:279276 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Scope Memory
A good product like SeeFusion or Fusion-Reactor will allow you to see the overall size of Java's memory heap. In a controlled environment you could note the amount of memory used, load data into your scope, and then measure the delta. Might do good for getting a rough estimate. ~Brad -Original Message- From: Christopher Jordan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 12:35 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Scope Memory Is there any way (outside of getting CF8 in a few months) that I can access the amount of memory that a given scope is using? Thanks, Chris -- http://cjordan.us ~| Macromedia ColdFusion MX7 Upgrade to MX7 experience time-saving features, more productivity. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJW Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:279277 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Scope Memory
Thanks for responding Michael. I'm confused though: Michael Dinowitz wrote: You can dump out the scope to get a relative idea of its content. How does dumping the scope help me get a relative idea of the number of bytes? Am I supposed to count the number of characters in each string? What about numeric data? Should I count it as I count a string (since CF is typeless) or does a number take up more bytes the bigger it gets? If a component is stored in a scope, you need to also take into account inheritance as well as it's internally stored variables as well as method overhead. How do I go about taking these things into account? Thanks heaps! Chris -- http://cjordan.us ~| Macromedia ColdFusion MX7 Upgrade to MX7 experience time-saving features, more productivity. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJW Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:279278 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: 2 problems that I can figure out
We are trying to develop a data entry site for an event that my school is fixing to host. Currently, we are trying to make a dynamic drop-down list that will populate with schools once a state is selected. For the time being we have the all of the States in one table and all of the schools in another table on an oracle server. The table that contains the Schools also contain the schools' name, state and city. Basically I want to be able to select a state from a drop-down list and have the schools' names populate another drop down list. This is a pretty straightforward JavaScript thing. Here's a good example: http://www.mattkruse.com/javascript/dynamicoptionlist/ Currently we have a function on the site that would allow a person to enter their data then if they wanted, go back and change it. The problem is, the URL shows the record number (EX. Edit.cfm?ID=10488) I want that to either be a random variable or just hidden; so it would look like Edit.cfm or Edit.cfm?ID=145289689a699866548. Why? Instead of trying to obfuscate the value, why not just require authorization to make changes to specific records, based on the user's authentication? It shouldn't matter if I can put in another value, as long as your system checks to make sure I'm allowed to make changes to the corresponding record. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! This email has been processed by SmoothZap - www.smoothwall.net ~| Deploy Web Applications Quickly across the enterprise with ColdFusion MX7 Flex 2 Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:279279 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Scope Memory
Is there any way (outside of getting CF8 in a few months) that I can access the amount of memory that a given scope is using? Not exactly, but you can fiddle around with the amount of memory allocated to different generations within the JVM. For example, information about compiled files is stored in the permanent generation, while regular variables are presumably stored in the young generation. I would assume that session and application variables would likely be stored in the tenured generation. http://www.petefreitag.com/articles/gctuning/ http://www.petefreitag.com/item/508.cfm http://www.robisen.com/ Sorry, I thought you wrote that you wanted to allocate, not access. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! This email has been processed by SmoothZap - www.smoothwall.net ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 The most significant release in over 10 years. Upgrade see new features. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJR Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:279281 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
