CF8 server for intranet, which OS? what hardware? what network?

2008-05-31 Thread henry ho
To all server experts...

My situation is that since the DB of choice is MS-SQL, I need a windows server 
that host the CF8 (Standard), and MS-SQL Server 2005.

1. Which version of windows is appropriate for a CF  SQL server for a small 
Intranet ( 10 clients)?
 - Windows Server 2008?
 - Windows Server 2003 SP2?
 - Windows Vista Business version? is this enough???

2. Is 4GB on 32-bit OS enough?  Or should I go for 64-bit? (keep in mind I'll 
be using CF8 Standard with no 64bit Windows support)

3. Is ECC RAM necessary?  If not, when is it necessary?

4. When is using active directory on CF8 for authentication a good idea?

5. If I want the intranet to also have access to the internet, should they all 
go through the windows server by a hub/switch?  Or should they be connected 
directly to the internet router using another network cable?

6. Will there be any foreseeable problem with clients running Linux?


Thank you very much for your help. 

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Re: CFFEED and Google's data API

2008-05-31 Thread Dominic Watson
This may be of some help:

http://fusion.dominicwatson.co.uk/2008/03/xmlsearch-and-default-namespaces.html

My betterXml components. It is probably worth extending them and
creating a specific RSS application of the component.

Dominic

2008/5/31 Andy Matthews [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 A followup to my own post, it appears that Ray Camden noticed that CFFEED 
 doesn't appear to recognize custom namespaces, which Google uses:
 http://www.coldfusionjedi.com/index.cfm/2008/4/23/Ask-a-Jedi-Handling-RSS-feeds-with-custom-data

 Anyone have a way to get around this issue? It would suck to have this nice 
 shiny CFFEED tag which can pull in RSS feeds and convert them to query 
 objects or structures but not be able to use it.

 I've got a CFC published on RIAForge that manages reading, and
 displaying a feed from Picasa. Version 1 relies on actual RSS feeds
 and works great. Now that Le Goog is releasing APIs for many of their
 services (including Picasa), I'd like to convert this over.


 However I'm running into a real oddity with CFFEED and their API. When
 I view their test feed in IE7, it renders just fine. Viewing source, I
 see nodes such as numphotos, thumbnail link, etc.:
 http://picasaweb.google.com/data/feed/api/user/picasateam?kind=album


 However, when I suck that same URL into CFFEED , return a query object,
 then dump that query, all of that extra data is missing:
 cffeed source=#VARIABLES.picasaURL# name=galleryList


 However, when I add the xmlvar attribute and output THAT, I can see
 that the nodes I'm looking for are def there
 cffeed source=#VARIABLES.picasaURL.gallery# name=galleryList
 xmlVar =xmlVar


 So, I'm wondering...what's the deal? Why isn't CFFEED pulling all of
 the data from their feed like it says that it does?


 Anyone have input on this? Just FYI, I also tried returning a
 structure in addition to a query and that didn't help either, although
 it did return more information than the query object did.


 

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market rates

2008-05-31 Thread Richard White
hi,

we are based in the UK, does anyone know of anywhere we could go to fund out 
the current market rates for coldfusion and mysql web application developers?

thanks

richard 

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Feels kinda dumb to ask this, but...

2008-05-31 Thread Rick Faircloth
I can't quite figure out a test for determining if no radio input
has been selected...

Four radio inputs, none initially checked, all grouped by name.
Form submits back to the page it's on, so there will be a value for the input.

With a checkbox, I just check for its existence.

But what about a radio input... how to check if none were selected?

cfif not isSelected('form.purchase_time')

???

Thanks,

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Re: Best CF editor?

2008-05-31 Thread Aaron Rouse
It starts off as two double quotes next to one another, DW changes it to one
single double quote.

On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 10:29 PM, Eric Roberts 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I don't do a lot of xml so I guess I never saw anything like that.  Is that
 just 1 double quote or 2 single quotes?  If it is single quotes, you may
 have something (might even be a default) for xml files that changes that in
 accordance with some xml standard.

 Eric

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 /*Massimo(sp?) gave an example that I believe others were able to repeat
 /*where
 /*DW rewrites and XML file.  I have seen DW do this for one of ours, here
 is
 /*what the files have prior to opening them:
 /*
 /*StyleSearch/StyleSearch
 /*
 /*When opened up in DW the display shows this instead:
 /*
 /*StyleSearch/StyleSearch
 /*
 /*If you make some change in the file then save it, you unknowingly have
 /*saved
 /*it with that change but you quickly find out because I frame work throws
 /*an
 /*error on that.  I just tested it in DW 8 and it happened as I explained.
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 /*On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 9:25 PM, Eric Roberts 


 

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Re: Feels kinda dumb to ask this, but...

2008-05-31 Thread Dominic Watson
 I can't quite figure out a test for determining if no radio input
 has been selected

;) The same as a checkbox:

cfif not StructKeyExists(form, 'radioName')
cfset error = Select a radio button you numpty!
cfelse
 cfset valueOfSelectedRadio = form.radioName
/cfif

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Sybase 10.0

2008-05-31 Thread Duane Boudreau
Does anyone here have experience with Sybase? 

 

I need to create a development environment that uses Sybase 10.0 as the
database but it's been ages since I touched anything Sybase (since 6.5). The
client has given me the unload files from the database but I'm unsure where
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RE: CF8 server for intranet, which OS? what hardware? what network?

2008-05-31 Thread Mark Kruger
Henry,

Your question is really broad and a lot of answers could be right. I would
buy based on cost. For less than 10 clients it is not going to matter a
great deal whether your RAM is one type or another. A 4GB windows server
(2003r2) should be fine - buy what you can afford. Heck, buy a desktop and
an OEM copy of 2003r2 - as long as you have a good backup you would be ok. 

As for the networking question - you should have  router/firewall that is
used for internet access. You should not be using windows as a router or
firewall. Even though it's possible saying windows firewall sort of makes
most of us cringe a bit :)

When you say clients running Linux - if you mean your desktops are Linux
then you probably have other problems (ha)  - but connecting to the cf8
server is done via the browser - so no, no problems. File sharing is also
doable.

By the sound of your questions you might be in over your head just a
little bit. Go slow. You sound like someone who knows how to gather
information though - so you should be ok. Good luck.

-Mark


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-Original Message-
From: henry ho [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2008 3:47 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CF8 server for intranet, which OS? what hardware? what network?

To all server experts...

My situation is that since the DB of choice is MS-SQL, I need a windows
server that host the CF8 (Standard), and MS-SQL Server 2005.

1. Which version of windows is appropriate for a CF  SQL server for a small
Intranet ( 10 clients)?
 - Windows Server 2008?
 - Windows Server 2003 SP2?
 - Windows Vista Business version? is this enough???

2. Is 4GB on 32-bit OS enough?  Or should I go for 64-bit? (keep in mind
I'll be using CF8 Standard with no 64bit Windows support)

3. Is ECC RAM necessary?  If not, when is it necessary?

4. When is using active directory on CF8 for authentication a good idea?

5. If I want the intranet to also have access to the internet, should they
all go through the windows server by a hub/switch?  Or should they be
connected directly to the internet router using another network cable?

6. Will there be any foreseeable problem with clients running Linux?




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Re: CF8 server for intranet, which OS? what hardware? what network?

2008-05-31 Thread James Holmes
If at all possible, put the DB on a different machine.

Stick with 32 bit for now. 4 GB will be fine.

If you value your data and really want a reliable server, get ECC RAM.

AD (or any LDAP solution)  is good for hundreds or thousands of users.
For 10 users it may be overkill.



On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 4:47 PM, henry ho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 To all server experts...

 My situation is that since the DB of choice is MS-SQL, I need a windows 
 server that host the CF8 (Standard), and MS-SQL Server 2005.

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RE: Feels kinda dumb to ask this, but...

2008-05-31 Thread Bobby Hartsfield
Just do it the same way you would a checkbox. Radio buttons don't exist in
the scope unless one was selected either.

..:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.
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-Original Message-
From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2008 8:56 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Feels kinda dumb to ask this, but...

I can't quite figure out a test for determining if no radio input
has been selected...

Four radio inputs, none initially checked, all grouped by name.
Form submits back to the page it's on, so there will be a value for the
input.

With a checkbox, I just check for its existence.

But what about a radio input... how to check if none were selected?

cfif not isSelected('form.purchase_time')

???

Thanks,

Rick




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Re: Best CF editor?

2008-05-31 Thread s. isaac dealey
  The only thing I had in CFEclipse that I'd like to see in Dreamweaver is
  the ability to get a list of methods in a CFC
 
 Available since 3 years on my website :-)
 http://www.massimocorner.com/dreamweaver/coldfusion/cf_function_nav.mxp

Thanks Massimo! Exactly what I was looking for. :) 

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Re: Session and Request variables are being shared between users

2008-05-31 Thread Mike Chabot
It is far more likely to share session variables than request
variables, so just focus on the session variable problem.
If you switch to using J2EE sessions, the problem might go away immediately.
If you are using traditional sessions, start logging cfide and cftoken
values and confirm that these values are identical for the people with
the issue.
Apply all the service packs and hotfixes to CF that you can.
You can try putting cache disabling code in the site.
You can try to make every URL unique for a user by putting a
user-specific variable in the query string of every link.
You can create your own secure session management code that doesn't
use the standard cookie values that CF creates.

Good luck,
Mike Chabot

On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 12:39 AM, Dustin Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hmmm...ok. So, how do I find out for sure if I have a proxy or cache between 
 users and then, of course, how would I fix such a problem? A caching issue is 
 what I thought it might be at one point but never really knew how to proceed 
 or how to test. How would a proxy or cache create this behavior exactly? 
 Thanks.

 You probably have a proxy or cache between your users and the servers,

 which is serving old data from the cache. You can control cache
 behavior with HTTP headers.

 On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 10:45 PM, Dustin Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  Here is an EXTREMELY strange issue I'm having with an application of
 mine: Session and Request variables are being shared between users.
 What I mean is this; we have many users accessing the application and
 when we do a dump of the Session and Request variables and the bottom
 of the screens, sometimes other user's data will be shown. For example,
 user 'A' is signed in but in the dump of the Session and Request
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Re: Feels kinda dumb to ask this, but...

2008-05-31 Thread Will Tomlinson
I can't quite figure out a test for determining if no radio input
has been selected...

What is a variable? (OUCH!)  

:)

Will 

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Re: Best CF editor?

2008-05-31 Thread s. isaac dealey
 That was back when DW was a design tool and didn't have the code view.  It
 also had the horrible Mac disembodied windows.  We also were not happy with
 the first version of it after MM dropped CfStudio.  It has improved greatly
 along the road to 8.  I still wish they would make a version of it without
 the wysiwyg part.  That would be awesome.
 
 Eric

Yeah, I know I wasn't happy with DW at the time they dropped CFS. These
days it's the most productive way for me to work, in spite of still
being imperfect in several ways like the wysiwyg popping open on me. (Which
I may have just fixed thanks to somebody here making me doulbe-check my
prefs - doh!) 

Personally I'm agnostic about the separate windows thing... I wasn't
enthused about the fact that GIMP had them, but it wasn't a turn off for
me either. What bugs me about GIMP is that the rest of its interface is
really unintuitive and challenging to learn. Someone the other day
mentioned to me the notion of a keyboard shortcut for send to back in
Unix versions instead of the Windows alt+tab bring to front as being a
better way of handling windowed interfaces and making the separate
windows a lot more sensible. I'd actually like to see that implemented
on Windows -- at least on hearing it, I thought it did sound like a good
design. But it's nowhere near compelling enough for me to start looking
for a Unix version I can install on one of my machines. 

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Re: Best CF editor?

2008-05-31 Thread Les Mizzell
 DW7 was better and DW8 was really nice...though as Ray pointed out...there
 was no SVN integration, which sucked.

There's a public beta of DW 9 out now, with some nice enhancements. A 
work saving feature for me is a related files panel that clearly shows 
any includes, imported files, blah, blah associated with the file you're 
working on - with one click access to open and toy with them too.

Grab it and let Adobe know what you think...

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RE: Best CF editor?

2008-05-31 Thread Eric Roberts
I guess I assumed it was 7...

eric

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RE: Best CF editor?

2008-05-31 Thread Eric Roberts
Yeah, but until 5, I really wouldn't call it code view...

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Re: Best CF editor?

2008-05-31 Thread Michael Christensen
Basically, it seems my choices come down to something like this;

HOMESITE
PROS: sturdy and reliable
CONS: not being updated

ECLIPSE
PROS: free, lots of good features, nice functions for CF
CONS: buggy, doesn't handle large files, even critical bugs seem to take a LONG 
time to get fixed

APTANA
PROS: free, very similar to Eclipse + option not to use working sets
CONS: same as for Eclipse

DREAMWEAVER
PROS: fast, similar to HomeSite in many ways
CONS: a bit steep on price, doesn't have the many nice feature of Eclipse

For the moment, it seems I might end up using Eclipse for most of my work and 
HomeSite for the large files (until I may eventually have time to split them 
up).
I am not at all happy about that solution, as I would really prefer using the 
same editor all the time and pouring all my energy into customizing and 
optimizing that particular editor.

If anyone from the Eclipse-gang is reading this - PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE fix the 
issue with the large files, which has been reported as a bug about 2 years 
ago... 

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RE: Feels kinda dumb to ask this, but...

2008-05-31 Thread Rick Faircloth
Well, Mr. Smarty Pants, my initial tests with no radio input
selected returned a variable, which I thought if shouldn't,
but there it was in cfdump.

But upon changing the value of the first radio input from no
to no, just looking, the radio input stopped showing up
in cfdump if no value was selected.

Something was just a little weird (and no, Will, it wasn't
my code!), but now all seems well in my CF world.

:oP

Rick

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 Subject: Re: Feels kinda dumb to ask this, but...
 
 I can't quite figure out a test for determining if no radio input
 has been selected...
 
 What is a variable? (OUCH!)
 
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(ot) Flex and RTMP streaming media

2008-05-31 Thread Dominic Watson
I'm just starting out with flex and trying to play video over rtmp.
I've been googling for *hours* with no joy.

Can it be done with mx:VideoDisplay?

Currently I am using the excellent JW media player @
http://www.jeroenwijering.com/?item=JW_FLV_Media_Player to play the
stream and I supply it with 'file' (the FMS app scope url) and id (the
subdirectory path to the flv). This all works great. I am using a 3rd
party streaming host (no direct server access).

However, I am completely lost coming into flex with this - any
guidance would be hugely appreciated.

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RE: Best CF editor?

2008-05-31 Thread Eric Roberts
The separate windows thing really bugged me...but then again I really
dislike Macs too.  It's one of the things I hate about gimp too, but
unfortunately I am forced to use that.
Eric

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/* That was back when DW was a design tool and didn't have the code view.
/*It
/* also had the horrible Mac disembodied windows.  We also were not happy
/*with
/* the first version of it after MM dropped CfStudio.  It has improved
/*greatly
/* along the road to 8.  I still wish they would make a version of it
/*without
/* the wysiwyg part.  That would be awesome.
/*
/* Eric
/*
/*Yeah, I know I wasn't happy with DW at the time they dropped CFS. These
/*days it's the most productive way for me to work, in spite of still
/*being imperfect in several ways like the wysiwyg popping open on me.
/*(Which
/*I may have just fixed thanks to somebody here making me doulbe-check my
/*prefs - doh!)
/*
/*Personally I'm agnostic about the separate windows thing... I wasn't
/*enthused about the fact that GIMP had them, but it wasn't a turn off for
/*me either. What bugs me about GIMP is that the rest of its interface is
/*really unintuitive and challenging to learn. Someone the other day
/*mentioned to me the notion of a keyboard shortcut for send to back in
/*Unix versions instead of the Windows alt+tab bring to front as being a
/*better way of handling windowed interfaces and making the separate
/*windows a lot more sensible. I'd actually like to see that implemented
/*on Windows -- at least on hearing it, I thought it did sound like a good
/*design. But it's nowhere near compelling enough for me to start looking
/*for a Unix version I can install on one of my machines.
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Re: Feels kinda dumb to ask this, but...

2008-05-31 Thread William Seiter
Whenever you are testing information on a website that is submitted by the 
browser (client-side code not doing what was expected, yet you are SURE your 
code is right)

clear your browser settings, close the browser, reopen the browser and then 
reopen your page. If the 'weird' functionality still exists, it is probably 
your code.  If it stops being weird, then there was probably a cross-over of 
old code to new code.

FYI, Checkbox, Radio Buttons and Select(dropdowns) that do not have an option 
checked or selected will not forward that form element to the server. You 
should do 2 things.  1= always select a default for them.  2= always check for 
their existence on the server and default them, if they don't exist.

William



Well, Mr. Smarty Pants, my initial tests with no radio input
selected returned a variable, which I thought if shouldn't,
but there it was in cfdump.

But upon changing the value of the first radio input from no
to no, just looking, the radio input stopped showing up
in cfdump if no value was selected.

Something was just a little weird (and no, Will, it wasn't
my code!), but now all seems well in my CF world.
 

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Re: (ot) Flex and RTMP streaming media

2008-05-31 Thread Dominic Watson
Always the way, as soon as you post the question you find the solution
;) I will post it here for posterity.

From my streaming host I was given the following information to work
with the JW media player:

file = rtmp.thestreamingserver.com/wizard/
id = {accountname}/{videoname} (no .flv extension)

mx:VideoDisplay only supplies a source attribute for the source of the
stream so a single url for the stream was required - finding out what
that single url was proved rather difficult but finally I got it:

'rtmp.thestreamingserver.com/wizard/' + '_definst_' +
'/accountname/videoname.flv'

Needed to sandwich the folder '_definst_' between the file and id info
I was given and add on the file extension - et voila.

I then stumbled on a new problem, the stream was playing back all
stuttery, indeed twice at once it seemed. To resolve this, the
autoBandWidthDetection attribute of the mx:VideoDisplay tag had to be
set to true. Apparently, some action script file has to be installed
in the correct place on the streaming server for this to work -
fortunately for me, this all seems to have been taken care of.

Cup of tea time while I wait for my hair to grow back (could be some time) ;)

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Re: Feels kinda dumb to ask this, but...

2008-05-31 Thread Will Tomlinson
Well, Mr. Smarty Pants, my initial tests with no radio input
selected returned a variable, which I thought if shouldn't,
but there it was in cfdump.

But upon changing the value of the first radio input from no
to no, just looking, the radio input stopped showing up
in cfdump if no value was selected.

Something was just a little weird (and no, Will, it wasn't
my code!), but now all seems well in my CF world.

Let me translate this. 

It was your code. lol! 

I'm just glad I've never done anything goofy like that. AHEM!  

:)



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ajaxCFC - JSON not defined error

2008-05-31 Thread James Buckingham
Hi there,

I've been trying to experiment with ajaxCFC a bit but keep getting this strange 
error  and I'm not really sure what I've done wrong.

I'm using AJAXCFCs jQuery tools for this and in the script below I'm trying to 
call a CFC which returns a query set.

$('#finance').ready(function(){
$.AjaxCFC({
url: com/ajaxGateway.cfc,
method: getPaymentRequests,
data:{},
serialization: json,
success: function(data){
$.dump(data); // dump is not part of AjaxCFC.
MyQueryName = eval(( + data + ));
}
});
});

If I run this though I get a JS error saying:
JSON is not defined on line 165 of jquery.AJAXCFC.js

I've seen this kind of structure on a few examples online but I'm not really 
sure what I'm doing wrong here.

Also,just for additional information, I can get the DWR version to work fine. I 
just think this method is a bit tidier to work with so I want to give it a try. 
I'm also using the latest version of the RiaForge site.

Thanks a lot,
James 

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RE: Feels kinda dumb to ask this, but...

2008-05-31 Thread Rick Faircloth
 It was your code. lol!

Not!  :o)

Rick

 -Original Message-
 From: Will Tomlinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2008 6:36 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Feels kinda dumb to ask this, but...
 
 Well, Mr. Smarty Pants, my initial tests with no radio input
 selected returned a variable, which I thought if shouldn't,
 but there it was in cfdump.
 
 But upon changing the value of the first radio input from no
 to no, just looking, the radio input stopped showing up
 in cfdump if no value was selected.
 
 Something was just a little weird (and no, Will, it wasn't
 my code!), but now all seems well in my CF world.
 
 Let me translate this.
 
 It was your code. lol!
 
 I'm just glad I've never done anything goofy like that. AHEM!
 
 :)
 
 
 
 

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RE: Feels kinda dumb to ask this, but...

2008-05-31 Thread Rick Faircloth
I think this has something to do with the fact that I have
several cfincludes involved and while the page calling the
includes was getting refreshed, perhaps the includes were not when
changes were made.

But that doesn't seem right, because my assumption was that
if an included page is called, it's an automatic refresh...perhaps not.

I had run into inconsistent responses from data/forms, etc.,
during development of this form and the includes, and sometimes had to close
the page and revisit the site to get consistent and expected
function.

Rick



 -Original Message-
 From: William Seiter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2008 6:31 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Feels kinda dumb to ask this, but...
 
 Whenever you are testing information on a website that is submitted by the 
 browser (client-side
code not
 doing what was expected, yet you are SURE your code is right)
 
 clear your browser settings, close the browser, reopen the browser and then 
 reopen your page. If
the
 'weird' functionality still exists, it is probably your code.  If it stops 
 being weird, then there
was
 probably a cross-over of old code to new code.
 
 FYI, Checkbox, Radio Buttons and Select(dropdowns) that do not have an option 
 checked or selected
will
 not forward that form element to the server. You should do 2 things.  1= 
 always select a default
for
 them.  2= always check for their existence on the server and default them, if 
 they don't exist.
 
 William
 
 
 
 Well, Mr. Smarty Pants, my initial tests with no radio input
 selected returned a variable, which I thought if shouldn't,
 but there it was in cfdump.
 
 But upon changing the value of the first radio input from no
 to no, just looking, the radio input stopped showing up
 in cfdump if no value was selected.
 
 Something was just a little weird (and no, Will, it wasn't
 my code!), but now all seems well in my CF world.
 
 
 

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Re: Best CF editor?

2008-05-31 Thread Kay Smoljak
On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 6:10 AM, Eric Roberts
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The separate windows thing really bugged me...but then again I really
 dislike Macs too.  It's one of the things I hate about gimp too, but
 unfortunately I am forced to use that.

DW has had a docked, full MDI since the MX2004 release. It hasn't been
floating windows since version 4.

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RE: Best CF editor?

2008-05-31 Thread Eric Roberts
Yeah...and that was a major improvement.  The separate windows kept me from
using DW prior to that.

Eric

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/*On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 6:10 AM, Eric Roberts
/*[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
/* The separate windows thing really bugged me...but then again I really
/* dislike Macs too.  It's one of the things I hate about gimp too, but
/* unfortunately I am forced to use that.
/*
/*DW has had a docked, full MDI since the MX2004 release. It hasn't been
/*floating windows since version 4.
/*
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Re: Best CF editor?

2008-05-31 Thread Kay Smoljak
On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 10:54 AM, Raymond Camden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Unless someone tells me the code view doesn't change code - I will
 never run DW. Period. I believe someone earlier in the thread said
 that it was indeed fixed, but who would want to use an editor w/o
 knowing if it will muck with your code??

I've never had DW change my code once I've set all the options properly.
I work mostly in Fusebox 4/5. Most of the problems reported seem to be
to do with complex XML.
*shrugs*

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Re: Best CF editor?

2008-05-31 Thread Aaron Rouse
How do you know with 100% certainty that some other editor is not going to
change the code on you in some odd ball case? I honestly think I have had
Notepad, if it was not this then it was some built-in editor on this Mac,
change a display character on me before, should I ban that from use and
label it as some horrific program because it could not render some oddball
scenario correctly and when I made changes to the file and saved it then I
unknowingly just saved its mistake.


On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 10:18 PM, Raymond Camden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ok, but if you KNOW that there is a 0.01% chance of DW messing with
 your code, that wouldn't worry you? I can just imagine the hours
 wasted trying to figure out why somehting isn't working and it turns
 out to be the editor messing with the file.

 Sorry - even if it is 1 in a 1000, or 1 in 1, I'd refrain from using
 DW.

 On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 10:08 PM, Kay Smoljak [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 10:54 AM, Raymond Camden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  Unless someone tells me the code view doesn't change code - I will
  never run DW. Period. I believe someone earlier in the thread said
  that it was indeed fixed, but who would want to use an editor w/o
  knowing if it will muck with your code??
 
  I've never had DW change my code once I've set all the options properly.
  I work mostly in Fusebox 4/5. Most of the problems reported seem to be
  to do with complex XML.
  *shrugs*
 

 

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Re: Best CF editor?

2008-05-31 Thread Aaron Rouse
My problem with it appears to have been fixed in CS3 and is not repeatable
in CS4. And as I pointed out before my problem is so insanely rare to happen
to us that it is damn near not worth even mentioning.

On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 9:54 PM, Raymond Camden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 11:20 AM, Les Mizzell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  Grab it and let Adobe know what you think...
 

 Unless someone tells me the code view doesn't change code - I will
 never run DW. Period. I believe someone earlier in the thread said
 that it was indeed fixed, but who would want to use an editor w/o
 knowing if it will muck with your code??

 

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Re: Best CF editor?

2008-05-31 Thread Raymond Camden
Ok, but if you KNOW that there is a 0.01% chance of DW messing with
your code, that wouldn't worry you? I can just imagine the hours
wasted trying to figure out why somehting isn't working and it turns
out to be the editor messing with the file.

Sorry - even if it is 1 in a 1000, or 1 in 1, I'd refrain from using DW.

On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 10:08 PM, Kay Smoljak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 10:54 AM, Raymond Camden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Unless someone tells me the code view doesn't change code - I will
 never run DW. Period. I believe someone earlier in the thread said
 that it was indeed fixed, but who would want to use an editor w/o
 knowing if it will muck with your code??

 I've never had DW change my code once I've set all the options properly.
 I work mostly in Fusebox 4/5. Most of the problems reported seem to be
 to do with complex XML.
 *shrugs*


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Re: Best CF editor?

2008-05-31 Thread Raymond Camden
On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 11:20 AM, Les Mizzell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Grab it and let Adobe know what you think...


Unless someone tells me the code view doesn't change code - I will
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that it was indeed fixed, but who would want to use an editor w/o
knowing if it will muck with your code??

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RE: Best CF editor?

2008-05-31 Thread Eric Roberts
Not really.  In the 4 or 5 years (or however many it is) That DW because
MM's IDE of choice for CF, I never had a problem that didn't involve the
WYSIWYG interface.

Eric

/*-Original Message-
/*From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
/*Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2008 10:19 PM
/*To: CF-Talk
/*Subject: Re: Best CF editor?
/*
/*Ok, but if you KNOW that there is a 0.01% chance of DW messing with
/*your code, that wouldn't worry you? I can just imagine the hours
/*wasted trying to figure out why somehting isn't working and it turns
/*out to be the editor messing with the file.
/*
/*Sorry - even if it is 1 in a 1000, or 1 in 1, I'd refrain from using
/*DW.
/*
/*On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 10:08 PM, Kay Smoljak [EMAIL PROTECTED]
/*wrote:
/* On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 10:54 AM, Raymond Camden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
/*wrote:
/* Unless someone tells me the code view doesn't change code - I will
/* never run DW. Period. I believe someone earlier in the thread said
/* that it was indeed fixed, but who would want to use an editor w/o
/* knowing if it will muck with your code??
/*
/* I've never had DW change my code once I've set all the options properly.
/* I work mostly in Fusebox 4/5. Most of the problems reported seem to be
/* to do with complex XML.
/* *shrugs*
/*
/*
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Re: Best CF editor?

2008-05-31 Thread Aaron Rouse
Yes, but if we ignore that it happens with very specific things and just
hound and hound on the fact that it happens then it is more fuel to the fire
against DW.

On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 10:08 PM, Kay Smoljak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 10:54 AM, Raymond Camden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Unless someone tells me the code view doesn't change code - I will
  never run DW. Period. I believe someone earlier in the thread said
  that it was indeed fixed, but who would want to use an editor w/o
  knowing if it will muck with your code??

 I've never had DW change my code once I've set all the options properly.
 I work mostly in Fusebox 4/5. Most of the problems reported seem to be
 to do with complex XML.
 *shrugs*

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Re: Best CF editor?

2008-05-31 Thread Kay Smoljak
On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 11:18 AM, Raymond Camden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ok, but if you KNOW that there is a 0.01% chance of DW messing with
 your code, that wouldn't worry you? I can just imagine the hours
 wasted trying to figure out why somehting isn't working and it turns
 out to be the editor messing with the file.

 Sorry - even if it is 1 in a 1000, or 1 in 1, I'd refrain from using DW.

Well, the last time I used ColdFusion Studio it started overwriting
open files with other files of the same name (i.e. all my open
index.cfm from different folders files ended up with the same contents
after uploading). There is no program in the world without bugs. I
happen to find that the productivity boosts I get from DW outweigh the
0.1% chance of something bad happening.

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Re: CF Developers - Iraq

2008-05-31 Thread Larry C. Lyons
It isn' that bad, quite a few people have returned relatively
unscathed. Most civilian contractors who go over there never really
are exposed to any major risks.

On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 8:52 AM, Tom Chiverton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 2008/5/30 Paul Ihrig [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 whats the pay like?

 Seriously, how much is your life worth ?
 Working in *Iraq*... wtf... remote working at all. Geez.
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 Tom

 

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