Re: Java now available on Google App engine - how long til CFML?

2009-04-08 Thread Gerald Guido

Yeah, what Dave said.

Cloud Computing is truly fascinating. It really captures my imagination. I
watch it with a keen interest. And as Dave said Amazon is a big player. BTW
There are Amazon VMs for both Railo and Open BD.  You can build a monster
server farm in a matter of minutes.

G!

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>
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Re: Stumped by cfexchange integration

2009-04-08 Thread Victor Moore

Hi James,

Yes, I have seen that one. My problem is a little bit different in the
sens that I can't even connect.
I have even applied the patch that Matt pointed out and still no luck.
I can connect fine from IE using the same credentials I have in the
cfexchangeconnect tag ...

Very frustrating to say the least..

Thanks
Victor

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>
> 2009/4/9 Victor Moore :
>>
>> Am I the only person in the CF universe that is trying to use
>> cfexchange tag with Exchange 2007 (and has a problem)?
>
> No:
>
> http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:53211

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Re: Stumped by cfexchange integration

2009-04-08 Thread James Holmes

2009/4/9 Victor Moore :
>
> Am I the only person in the CF universe that is trying to use
> cfexchange tag with Exchange 2007 (and has a problem)?

No:

http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:53211

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Re: encrypt database column

2009-04-08 Thread Dave Watts

> In fact, yes i know we are both thinking 'if someone
> is good enough to hack into the backend database
> then they will be good enough to decrypt the data if
> they really wanted'
>
> so the cf app would definitely be sufficient enough

The problem with encrypting data from within your application is that
the same application will often also decrypt the data, so if your
application itself has a vulnerability - which is by far the most
likely security problem you'd have - this won't actually protect your
data. It would, however, perhaps protect your data from untrustworthy
database administrators, but that's probably not the threat profile
you're facing.

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Re: Java now available on Google App engine - how long til CFML?

2009-04-08 Thread Dave Watts

> How long til we get CFML on there?

My guess - and as a Google App Engine developer and Google Enterprise
partner, I like to think it's an educated guess - is never. There are
a couple of reasons for this. First, it's largely proprietary. Second,
it's not used by Google itself for anything else, as Python and Java
are. Third, many of the things that are nice about CF simply wouldn't
apply in App Engine. For example, you don't have relational databases
as such in App Engine.

In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if App Engine never expands beyond
those two languages.

But, as Gerald mentions, App Engine isn't the only game in town when
it comes to cloud computing platforms. The other big player is Amazon,
and you can host any app server you like on EC2. There's even a
community of vendors making this process even easier, like Stax.

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Re: Java now available on Google App engine - how long til CFML?

2009-04-08 Thread Gerald Guido

>>How long til we get CFML on there?

Donno.

But both the Aptana cloud  and Stax.net offer Java cloud hosting. Stax even
mentions Adobe CF by name.  http://www.stax.net/index.jsp

I read a blog this week about someone getting Railo working on Aptana. IIRC
They had issues with Railo running within their plans memory limit.

None the less it is a good sign. I am sure ppl with be trying to get various
CF disrtos working on the Google cloud.

Huh... I said "CF distros". That has a nice ring to it.

G!

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>
> How long til we get CFML on there?
>
> http://jeffgladnick.instantspot.com/blog
>
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Java now available on Google App engine - how long til CFML?

2009-04-08 Thread Jeff Gladnick

How long til we get CFML on there?

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Re: How do they do ' ... also bought ..?

2009-04-08 Thread Matthew

Ok I stand corrected it was just too surreal for me to believe.

On 8 Apr 2009, at 17:09, "Robert Harrison"  wrote:


I believe it was Amazon that got in trouble when in recommended that
people who were interested in Black history documentaries might also be
interested in the Planet of the Apes films.
C'mon! I bet you just made that up:-) first time of hearing about it. 

Actually, it's true, but it was Walmart.  But it was not driven by a
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claims it was an 'innocent' mistake, but I'd bet that's now a former Walmart
employee. 

It's all over the web if you care to Google it.


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GoogleCalendar.cfc troubles

2009-04-08 Thread Matt Blatchley

I've recently downloaded Ray Camden's GoogleCalendar.cfc and I'm having a
heck of time understanding how the timezone offset is supposed to work.  I'm
calling to the CFC using the following code:





And the dates that come back in the query results are sometimes 5 hours
behind.  But I've tried to make changes within the CFC by setting the  and a few other things, but I can't seem to get
anything to work.

Has anyone worked with this at all?  Do I have the startMin and startMax
formatted incorrectly cause I've played with that too with no success
I'm sure it's something I'm not doing right...

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GoogleCalendar.cfc troubles

2009-04-08 Thread Matt Blatchley

I've recently downloaded Ray Camden's GoogleCalendar.cfc and I'm having a
heck of time understanding how the timezone offset is supposed to work.  I'm
calling to the CFC using the following code:



And the dates that come back in the query results are sometimes 5 hours
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Has anyone worked with this at all?  Do I have the startMin and startMax
formatted incorrectly cause I've played with that too with no success
I'm sure it's something I'm not doing right...

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Re: encrypt database column

2009-04-08 Thread Richard White

2 excellent points claude

thanks again for your help with this

richard

>>>what do you think about this?
>
>First point: if your database is correctly stored in a safe area not 
>accessible by HTTP, the risk is really low.
>If is is stored in an area vieable by HTTP, then so is your template to 
>decrypt and view data any way.
>It's like hanging the key of your house on the entrance door ;-)
>
>Second point, if is was really a concern and an issue, there would be 
>some tool available on your database system to handle it. Database 
>systems provide with other protection schemes. The best option is to use 
>them.
>Database systems are develop by professionals who know what they are 
>doing, not by customers who think they know where the danger is. 

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Re: encrypt database column

2009-04-08 Thread Claude Schneegans

 >>what do you think about this?

First point: if your database is correctly stored in a safe area not 
accessible by HTTP, the risk is really low.
If is is stored in an area vieable by HTTP, then so is your template to 
decrypt and view data any way.
It's like hanging the key of your house on the entrance door ;-)

Second point, if is was really a concern and an issue, there would be 
some tool available on your database system to handle it. Database 
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them.
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Re: Stumped by cfexchange integration

2009-04-08 Thread Victor Moore

The fix that Matt mentioned it's not part of the CF 8.1 Cumulative hotfix 2.

Am I the only person in the CF universe that is trying to use
cfexchange tag with Exchange 2007 (and has a problem)?

Thanks
Victor

On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 11:22 AM, James Holmes  wrote:
>
> Yes, for some reason Adobe only lists cf8 hot fixes here:
>
> http://kb.adobe.com/selfservice/viewContent.do?externalId=kb402604
>
> mxAjax / CFAjax docs and other useful articles:
> http://www.bifrost.com.au/blog/
>
> 2009/4/8 Frew, Matthew :
>>
>> Same goes for CF 8.1 Cumulative hotfix 2 - try finding it on the hotfixes 
>> and updaters site...  
>> (http://www.adobe.com/support/coldfusion/downloads_updates.html)
>>
>> Heck, 8.1 CHF 1 isn't even listed, let alone 2 (which contains hotfix for a 
>> memory leak with CFCs stored in memory scopes!) 
>> http://www.adobe.com/go/kb403781
>
>
> 

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Re: How do they do ' ... also bought ..?

2009-04-08 Thread Phillip Vector

Agreed.

On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 8:46 AM, Matthew  wrote:
>
> C'mon! I bet you just made that up:-) first time of hearing about it.
>
> On 8 Apr 2009, at 16:32, John Drake  wrote:
>
>
> Just a note of caution regarding this functionality - especially if you don't 
> have a lot of previous purchase data.
>
> I believe it was Amazon that got in trouble when in recommended that people 
> who were interested in Black history documentaries might also be interested 
> in the Planet of the Apes films.
>
> Showing things in the same category/accessories/etc. is a safer bet.
>
>
>
> 

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RE: How do they do ' ... also bought ..?

2009-04-08 Thread Robert Harrison

>> I believe it was Amazon that got in trouble when in recommended that
people who were interested in Black history documentaries might also be
interested in the Planet of the Apes films.
> C'mon! I bet you just made that up:-) first time of hearing about it. 

Actually, it's true, but it was Walmart.  But it was not driven by a
computer program. It was intentionally done by a Walmart employee. Walmart
claims it was an 'innocent' mistake, but I'd bet that's now a former Walmart
employee. 

It's all over the web if you care to Google it.


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Re: How do they do ' ... also bought ..?

2009-04-08 Thread Matthew

C'mon! I bet you just made that up:-) first time of hearing about it.

On 8 Apr 2009, at 16:32, John Drake  wrote:


Just a note of caution regarding this functionality - especially if you don't 
have a lot of previous purchase data.

I believe it was Amazon that got in trouble when in recommended that people who 
were interested in Black history documentaries might also be interested in the 
Planet of the Apes films.

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Re: encrypt database column

2009-04-08 Thread Richard White

In fact, yes i know we are both thinking 'if someone is good enough to hack 
into the backend database then they will be good enough to decrypt the data if 
they really wanted'

so the cf app would definitely be sufficient enough

thanks for your help claude, very much appreciated :)



> :) thanks claude, yes it is a good point, but what if someone was to 
> hack into the database... 
> 
> i'm sure we are both thinking the same thing at this point 'well if 
> someone is good enough to hack into a database then they will be good 
> enough to decrypt the data if they really wanted' 
> 
> but we have to satisfy the people that dont understand information 
> systems that there is as much security as possible and they do want 
> something to answer this question! (being, what can we do if someone 
> does get into the database!)
> 
> what do you think about this?
> 
> thanks again for your feedback
> 
> 
> 
> >>>i am now wondering whether there is really a need to encrypt the 
> >columns, but instead just to control the access to that data through 
> the 
> >cf application.
> >
> >You are telling yourself exactly what I was thinking ;-) 


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Re: Twitter oAuth

2009-04-08 Thread Michael J. Sprague

+1 I'd also be interested in the details

On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 11:41 AM, Tony  wrote:

>
> id love to read it if you could put that together.
>
> tw
>
> On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 8:40 PM, Philip Kaplan  wrote:
> >
> > In case anyone's interested, I figured it all out with the help of some
> > off-list folks.  Contact me if you need help with this.
> > Perhaps I will write a quick Twitter/ColdFusion/oAuth manual in the
> future.
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 7:00 PM, Philip Kaplan  wrote:
> >
> >> Anyone here have any experience with oAuth?  Or better yet with
> Twitter's
> >> oAuth implementation?
> >> I'm just not making any headway.  I've downloaded this:
> >> http://oauth.riaforge.org/
> >>
> >> But there's very little documentation on the CF oAuth side or on the
> >> Twitter side.
> >>
> >> Anyone ever get oAuth to work?  I don't really know where to start.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: encrypt database column

2009-04-08 Thread Richard White

:) thanks claude, yes it is a good point, but what if someone was to hack into 
the database... 

i'm sure we are both thinking the same thing at this point 'well if someone is 
good enough to hack into a database then they will be good enough to decrypt 
the data if they really wanted' 

but we have to satisfy the people that dont understand information systems that 
there is as much security as possible and they do want something to answer this 
question! (being, what can we do if someone does get into the database!)

what do you think about this?

thanks again for your feedback



>>>i am now wondering whether there is really a need to encrypt the 
>columns, but instead just to control the access to that data through the 
>cf application.
>
>You are telling yourself exactly what I was thinking ;-) 

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Re: Twitter oAuth

2009-04-08 Thread Tony

id love to read it if you could put that together.

tw

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>
> In case anyone's interested, I figured it all out with the help of some
> off-list folks.  Contact me if you need help with this.
> Perhaps I will write a quick Twitter/ColdFusion/oAuth manual in the future.
>
> On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 7:00 PM, Philip Kaplan  wrote:
>
>> Anyone here have any experience with oAuth?  Or better yet with Twitter's
>> oAuth implementation?
>> I'm just not making any headway.  I've downloaded this:
>> http://oauth.riaforge.org/
>>
>> But there's very little documentation on the CF oAuth side or on the
>> Twitter side.
>>
>> Anyone ever get oAuth to work?  I don't really know where to start.
>>
>>
>
>
> 

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Some Possible CF Freelance

2009-04-08 Thread Robert Harrison

I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this or not.  If not, please
direct me to the right place and I'll post there.

I have a few routines that I need written  but I'm swamped and can't get to
them right now. 

I've posted a basic description of the projects at:
http://www.austin-williams.com/cf_specs.cfm. If anyone is interested in
possibly picking up some extra freelance work, take a look and see if any of
these project look like they may be of interest to you. 

Thanks,
Robert


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Re: Stumped by cfexchange integration

2009-04-08 Thread James Holmes

Yes, for some reason Adobe only lists cf8 hot fixes here:

http://kb.adobe.com/selfservice/viewContent.do?externalId=kb402604

mxAjax / CFAjax docs and other useful articles:
http://www.bifrost.com.au/blog/

2009/4/8 Frew, Matthew :
>
> Same goes for CF 8.1 Cumulative hotfix 2 - try finding it on the hotfixes and 
> updaters site...  
> (http://www.adobe.com/support/coldfusion/downloads_updates.html)
>
> Heck, 8.1 CHF 1 isn't even listed, let alone 2 (which contains hotfix for a 
> memory leak with CFCs stored in memory scopes!) 
> http://www.adobe.com/go/kb403781


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Re: encrypt database column

2009-04-08 Thread Claude Schneegans

 >>yes, a cf app that has alot of security. and only people that have 
been given rights to the secure data

Then what's the big idea to encrypt data, if they have the rights to see 
it anyway?
If there are columns they should not see, just not provide them with the 
possibility to display those columns in your CF template, no?

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Re: encrypt database column

2009-04-08 Thread Claude Schneegans

 >>i am now wondering whether there is really a need to encrypt the 
columns, but instead just to control the access to that data through the 
cf application.

You are telling yourself exactly what I was thinking ;-)

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RE: Stumped by cfexchange integration

2009-04-08 Thread Frew, Matthew

Same goes for CF 8.1 Cumulative hotfix 2 - try finding it on the hotfixes and 
updaters site...  
(http://www.adobe.com/support/coldfusion/downloads_updates.html) 

Heck, 8.1 CHF 1 isn't even listed, let alone 2 (which contains hotfix for a 
memory leak with CFCs stored in memory scopes!) http://www.adobe.com/go/kb403781
Matt Frew
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-Original Message-
From: Victor Moore [mailto:victor.mo...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 5:59 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Stumped by cfexchange integration


It's funny that Adobe has apparently a fix but it can't be found anywhere.

Thanks Matt.

On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 1:27 PM, Frew, Matthew  wrote:
>
> FYI - there was a hotfix for cfexchange using form based auth.  If you don't 
> want to do forms based auth, you'll have to enable webdav exchange server.  
> While I can't find the original e-mail, the hotfix is hf801-74297; it may be 
> worth contact Adobe support and referencing that hotfix, to see what they 
> have to say.  I did a quick google, and wasn't able to find any links, but 
> Adobe *is* aware of the issue.
>
> Hth,
>
> Matt Frew
> Sr. Systems Programmer - Core Systems
> The Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania
> 215-573-5924 / mf...@wharton.upenn.edu
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Victor Moore [mailto:victor.mo...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 11:59 AM
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: Stumped by cfexchange integration
>
>
> Hello,
>
> I'm trying to use the new cf8 exchange integration and I can't make it work.
> Our company system admin assures me that the following are set:
> # IIS  is set up and running on the Exchange Server.
> #  /Exchange virtual directory is created in IIS.
> # "Allow" access to "Microsoft Exchange Server" in the "Web Service
> Extension" of IIS is set
>
> I have tried every combination that I can think of to connect:
>     action="open"
>    username ="#username#"
>    password="#pass#"
>    server="#exchangeServer#"
>    protocol="https"
>    formBasedAuthentication="true"
>    formBasedAuthenticationURL="https://exchangeServer/owa";
>    connection="testCon">
>
> the username, pass and exchangeServer variables are correct and I can
> connect from CF server using a browser.
>
> I have tried with http and https, also with formBasedAuthentication and 
> without.
> The Exchange server's cert is in the cert store of CF.
>
> The error I get is:
> "Unable to connect to the Exchange server using HTTP/HTTPS protocol.
> HTTP response code : 440"
>
> I have searched for this error and tried all the solutions posted with no 
> luck.
> I'm running in circles and can't see what's going on.
> PLEASE HELP..
>
>
> Thank you
> Victor
>
>
>
> 



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Re: How do they do ' ... also bought ..?

2009-04-08 Thread John Drake

Just a note of caution regarding this functionality - especially if you don't 
have a lot of previous purchase data.

I believe it was Amazon that got in trouble when in recommended that people who 
were interested in Black history documentaries might also be interested in the 
Planet of the Apes films.

Showing things in the same category/accessories/etc. is a safer bet. 

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Re: How do they do ' ... also bought ..?

2009-04-08 Thread Casey Dougall

On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 9:34 AM, Justin Scott
wrote:

> I would agree with that.  Saying "other people who bought this also bought
> these other items" and then displaying items not based on purchase data is
> misleading at best.  If you don't have the data to do that feature, then
> don't do it.
>


But that is not to say that people who add products to cart without checking
out were not interested in purchasing. You could store user cart session
data and use that till a point where you have enough actual purchase data.

So in the mean time, you would use terms like..  People who were looking at
this were also looking at... bla bla bla

While it's still not the best, more than not, people add products to carts
they are interested in purchasing, check out the totals and then leave the
website so it's not far fetched to think other visitors would be interested
in those products.

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RE: How do they do ' ... also bought ..?

2009-04-08 Thread Justin Scott

> So Phillip,  you say that those "people who bought this also bought
> ..."   are based on ACTUAL purchases?

I would agree with that.  Saying "other people who bought this also bought
these other items" and then displaying items not based on purchase data is
misleading at best.  If you don't have the data to do that feature, then
don't do it.

Instead, do a "related items" or "we think you might also like..." type of
box and use keyword matching or click tracking analysis to determine which
products are related automatically.

I would highly recommend the book "Programming Collective Intelligence" from
O'Reilly if you're interested in this sort of thing.  It explains all of the
math and theories behind these types of features (and a lot more).  The code
samples it includes are in Python, but can be easily translated into
ColdFusion.


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Re: Question about hack

2009-04-08 Thread Tom Chiverton

On Monday 06 Apr 2009, Dave Watts wrote:
> > In that case, you can no longer trust the host, or it's
> > host (if it's visualised). In the latter case, all other
> > guests on the same box are also suspect.
> I've not heard of a remote exploit that can climb out of a VM.

It's trivial to do (look at Invisible Labs red pill / blue pill work for how 
it works on 'bare metal' hypervisors, and there was an exploit against VMWare 
the other year).
If I was targeting ecommerce sites, I'd want to tick that box in my malware's 
toolkit.

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Re: encrypt database column

2009-04-08 Thread Richard White

>Who will be able to open and read your database, and from which 
>application? Some CF app?

hmm, i am now wondering whether there is really a need to encrypt the columns, 
but instead just to control the access to that data through the cf application.

i suppose the thing we need to think about is if someone hacks into the 
database, we have personal data alongside other data, which the client doesnt 
want, so actually yes some form of encryption on the personal data is required

thanks 

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Re: encrypt database column

2009-04-08 Thread Richard White

>Who will be able to open and read your database, and from which 
>application? Some CF app?

yes, a cf app that has alot of security. and only people that have been given 
rights to the secure data 

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RE: How to "decode" e-mail subject ?

2009-04-08 Thread WebSite CFTalk

Thank you Paul,

That gave me something to work on.

Helge

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Subject: RE: How to "decode" e-mail subject ?


> 
> This:B?W1ZpZGVyZXNlbmR0IGZyYSBXUyBTdXBwb3J0XSBQYXlFeCDDuG5za2VyIGRl?=
>  =?utf-8?B?ZyBnb2QgcMOlc2tl?=
> 

I missed something... It's not quoted printable, it's binary encoded. Q for
quoted-printable and B for binary.

You need to look for =?B? Or =?Q? At the beginning of the string. If its
=?B? Then take everything between =?B? and ?= and base64 decode it.

W1ZpZGVyZXNlbmR0IGZyYSBXUyBTdXBwb3J0XSBQYXlFeCDDuG5za2VyIGRl decodes as
[Videresendt fra WS Support] PayEx ønsker de

ZyBnb2QgcMOlc2tl decodes as g god påske

To handle all eventualities, you will still need a quoted-printable decoder
to handle subjects that start with =?Q?











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