Re: IIS not being recognized by CF 11 install

2014-09-17 Thread Dave Watts

> Yep, that's why I re installed IIS. Thanks Russ!

I think what Russ is getting at is that you can install individual IIS
components without uninstalling and reinstalling IIS itself, for
future reference.

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Re: cf incorrectly thinks compiled java byte code is correct

2014-09-17 Thread Byron Mann

Can you post the code for the set_first_name.cfm?

"firstName variable is undefined".

I have seen this type of error before when the variable is set to null.
 Something like a web service call that fails or really does not return
anything.  In this instance "setName" might be a function that returns
'void', so firstName would be null.


.


You could test this by checking isNull(firstname).

I would think if the byte code was incorrect you would not be getting CF
error details about what is going on and probably get some sort of java
servlet 503 error instead.

Byron



On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 5:07 PM, Dave Watts  wrote:

>
> > > How do you know this? What do you mean exactly by "incorrectly
> compiled"? What version of CF are you running?
> > > What are the exact error messages you're seeing?
> >
> > The reason I know it's not being compiled correctly is because when this
> issue occurs, the errors that happen are
> > indicative of the .cfm file being in place, but the byte code being
> empty.
> >
> > What I mean is, let's say page.cfm does a cfinclude on a high volume
> file called set_first_name.cfm which simply
> > sets a variable called "firstName".
> >
> > If that file is "corrupted" in the way I am describing, a "firstName
> variable is undefined" error would occur when
> > firstName was referenced back in page.cfm (after the cfinclude). Because
> even though the included
> > set_first_name.cfm file does indeed exist, the byte code that was
> generated is behaving as if it is "blank" (for lack
> > of a better term).
> >
> > I haven't personally examined the byte code, but 1) I don't have access
> to the live server, and 2) I wouldn't really
> > know how to read it.
>
> Well, my take on this is that you wouldn't see this problem if the
> file is corrupted. Instead, the entire page would simply fail to
> render unless you had the CFINCLUDE in a CFTRY/CFCATCH. The generated
> byte code has to be a fully-formed Java class that conforms to the
> Java Servlet API, and it seems to me to be unlikely that the class
> would be created correctly but just without your custom code. Again, I
> don't know enough about the internals of CF to guarantee this, but I
> do know a little bit about compilers and Java, and it seems unlikely.
>
> It would be useful if you could simply compare the bytecode size
> between "good" and "bad" versions of the same compiled class, if you
> could access those from the live server. They may be written to disk,
> in the cfclasses directory, if you have "Save cache files to disk"
> enabled in the CF Administrator.
>
> > > I've never seen this problem, even in many high-volume environments -
> some of which had their own problems.
> > > And it doesn't really make sense, given my (admittedly limited)
> knowledge of CF internals. So, I kind of think this
> > > is unlikely. Something else is probably happening.
> >
> > You may be right, but this is what we're experiencing. I also admit a
> limited knowledge of CF internals.
>
> I guess what I'm getting at here is: you definitely have a problem.
> But I don't think your description of the cause of the problem is
> accurate at all, and you could easily go down a rabbit-hole here by
> focusing on what you imagine is the cause of the problem, rather than
> the problem itself. The basic description of the problem is that
> you're not getting the output under load that you get without load,
> right?
>
> What happens if you block incoming traffic to the server, stop and
> restart the CF service, and rerun the same pages, with "Save cache
> files to disk" enabled? My guess is that you'll get the correct
> output.
>
> > > That article isn't really related, although it could solve the problem
> you describe. You can precompile CF code,
> > > then deploy that instead of the source code. You could try doing this
> to solve your problem, but again I don't
> > > think that's really the problem you're having.
> >
> > I agree that the article is only somewhat related, but it is related in
> the fact that, yes, there seems to be some sort of
> > problem with the compilation process. We have thought about deploying
> the compiled code, but wanted to see if anyone
> > else had experienced this problem first.
>
> You could certainly try to just deploy compiled classes and see what
> happens. It's generally a good thing to do in production anyway.
>
> Another approach you could try is to force the server to precompile
> everything by running a test script that generates an HTTP request for
> each CF file before you open access to users.
>
> Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> 1-202-527-9569
> http://www.figleaf.com/
> http://training.figleaf.com/
>
> Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on
> GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
> instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite.
>
> 

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Re: IIS not being recognized by CF 11 install

2014-09-17 Thread Gonzo Rock

Yep, that's why I re installed IIS. Thanks Russ!

On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 2:59 PM, Russ Michaels  wrote:

>
> I did actually ask earlier if you had installed all the required IIS
> features.
> As you have now stated that you did indeed not have these installed, simply
> installing these features as suggested would have resolved your problem,
> negating the need to re-install everything,.
>
> On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 10:41 PM, Gonzo Rock  wrote:
>
>


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Re: IIS not being recognized by CF 11 install

2014-09-17 Thread Russ Michaels

I did actually ask earlier if you had installed all the required IIS
features.
As you have now stated that you did indeed not have these installed, simply
installing these features as suggested would have resolved your problem,
negating the need to re-install everything,.

On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 10:41 PM, Gonzo Rock  wrote:

>
> Okay it's running now... I will detail what I did and the order I did it in
> so that others can find this in the future.
> CF11 connector install problems trouble failure
> CF 11 connector install problems trouble failure
>
> I took Dave's advice above and installed the web server that comes with
> CF11 and it ended up on port 8500 by default as expected.
>
> Next I successfully ran the coldfusion admin tool and goofed around with it
> for a bit...indicating I had a good CF11 install
>
> Next I ran wsconfig.exe as Administrator to connect to IIS... still no luck
> as detailed above.
>
> Next I completely removed the Web Server Role and Restarted the Windows
> Server 2008 R2 machine.
>
> Next I added Web Services back in...
>
> The default install does not check off the Application Development boxes so
> this time I chose ALL the Application Development options... with the
> exception of Server Side Includes.
>
> The last time I installed Web Services I only added in ASP, CGI, ISAPI
> Extensions and ISAPI filters. I found that as the required list in my
> google searching. This time I added in ASP.Net and .NET Extensibility to
> the mix.
>
> Success! Now the wsconfig.exe runs and gives me the choice of "Default Web
> Site"
>
> Now the cfadmin tool runs properly on port 80
>
> Next I uninstalled CF11
> Restarted the box
> Installed CF11 without incident.
> Ran the cfadmin tool without incident.
>
> Thanks to everyone for pitching in!
> And Russ... yes... spot on.
> Never had an install go so badly before but customer is so glad it's
> running.
> Thank you again!
>
> On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 11:41 AM, Russ Michaels 
> wrote:
>
> >
> > have you installed the following REQUIRED IIS components ?
> >
> >
> >- ASP.NET
> >- .NET Extensibility
> >- CGI
> >- ISAPI Extensions
> >- ISAPI Filters
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 5:51 PM, Gonzo Rock  wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > I have just opened up wide all the permission on the Default Web Site
> in
> > > IIS... I am still not getting CF 11 Std Install to see that IIS is
> > running.
> > > wsconfig.exe is not seeing it either.
> > >
> > > What am I doing wrong? Totally baffled now.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 3:51 PM, Gonzo Rock 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Yep... that idea was outlined in the link I shared... I also tried
> the
> > > > install that way as well.
> > > >
> > > > Then I uninstalled IIS on the 2008 box ... rebooted it and then
> > installed
> > > > IIS again. No luck with that either.
> > > >
> > > > from the cf logs...
> > > > Sep 16, 2014 17:49:10 PM Information [localhost-startStop-1] -
> Starting
> > > > WebSocket...
> > > > Sep 16, 2014 17:49:10 PM Information [localhost-startStop-1] -
> > WebSocket
> > > > server listens on port: 8577
> > > > Sep 16, 2014 17:49:11 PM Information [localhost-startStop-1] -
> > ColdFusion
> > > > started
> > > > Sep 16, 2014 17:49:11 PM Information [localhost-startStop-1] -
> > > ColdFusion:
> > > > application services are now available
> > > >
> > > > this kinda looks like the internal CF webserver is running... s I
> > > just
> > > > tried this:
> > > > http://127.0.0.1:8577/CFIDE/administrator/index.cfm ... and this
> > seemed
> > > > to try to run and I got a 403 error.
> > > > http://127.0.0.1/CFIDE/administrator/index.cfm  ... this delivers
> > 404...
> > > > and of course CFIDE is Not in the IIS web root... not yet anyway
> > > >
> > > > I'm starting to think I don't know how to add IIS to a server... but
> > it's
> > > > pretty straight up.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 3:29 PM, Dave Watts 
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> > IIS not being recognized by CF 11 install... at least that is
> what I
> > > am
> > > >> > thinking now. It's there... it's running... it has a Default Web
> > Site
> > > >> with
> > > >> > a couple of user installed folders... which serve up .html files
> > > across
> > > >> the
> > > >> > net no problem.
> > > >>
> > > >> Are you explicitly right-clicking on wsconfig.exe and running it as
> > > >> administrator?
> > > >>
> > > >> Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> > > >> 1-202-527-9569
> > > >> http://www.figleaf.com/
> > > >> http://training.figleaf.com/
> > > >>
> > > >> Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on
> > > >> GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
> > > >> instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: IIS not being recognized by CF 11 install

2014-09-17 Thread Gonzo Rock

Okay it's running now... I will detail what I did and the order I did it in
so that others can find this in the future.
CF11 connector install problems trouble failure
CF 11 connector install problems trouble failure

I took Dave's advice above and installed the web server that comes with
CF11 and it ended up on port 8500 by default as expected.

Next I successfully ran the coldfusion admin tool and goofed around with it
for a bit...indicating I had a good CF11 install

Next I ran wsconfig.exe as Administrator to connect to IIS... still no luck
as detailed above.

Next I completely removed the Web Server Role and Restarted the Windows
Server 2008 R2 machine.

Next I added Web Services back in...

The default install does not check off the Application Development boxes so
this time I chose ALL the Application Development options... with the
exception of Server Side Includes.

The last time I installed Web Services I only added in ASP, CGI, ISAPI
Extensions and ISAPI filters. I found that as the required list in my
google searching. This time I added in ASP.Net and .NET Extensibility to
the mix.

Success! Now the wsconfig.exe runs and gives me the choice of "Default Web
Site"

Now the cfadmin tool runs properly on port 80

Next I uninstalled CF11
Restarted the box
Installed CF11 without incident.
Ran the cfadmin tool without incident.

Thanks to everyone for pitching in!
And Russ... yes... spot on.
Never had an install go so badly before but customer is so glad it's
running.
Thank you again!

On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 11:41 AM, Russ Michaels  wrote:

>
> have you installed the following REQUIRED IIS components ?
>
>
>- ASP.NET
>- .NET Extensibility
>- CGI
>- ISAPI Extensions
>- ISAPI Filters
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 5:51 PM, Gonzo Rock  wrote:
>
> >
> > I have just opened up wide all the permission on the Default Web Site in
> > IIS... I am still not getting CF 11 Std Install to see that IIS is
> running.
> > wsconfig.exe is not seeing it either.
> >
> > What am I doing wrong? Totally baffled now.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 3:51 PM, Gonzo Rock  wrote:
> >
> > > Yep... that idea was outlined in the link I shared... I also tried the
> > > install that way as well.
> > >
> > > Then I uninstalled IIS on the 2008 box ... rebooted it and then
> installed
> > > IIS again. No luck with that either.
> > >
> > > from the cf logs...
> > > Sep 16, 2014 17:49:10 PM Information [localhost-startStop-1] - Starting
> > > WebSocket...
> > > Sep 16, 2014 17:49:10 PM Information [localhost-startStop-1] -
> WebSocket
> > > server listens on port: 8577
> > > Sep 16, 2014 17:49:11 PM Information [localhost-startStop-1] -
> ColdFusion
> > > started
> > > Sep 16, 2014 17:49:11 PM Information [localhost-startStop-1] -
> > ColdFusion:
> > > application services are now available
> > >
> > > this kinda looks like the internal CF webserver is running... s I
> > just
> > > tried this:
> > > http://127.0.0.1:8577/CFIDE/administrator/index.cfm ... and this
> seemed
> > > to try to run and I got a 403 error.
> > > http://127.0.0.1/CFIDE/administrator/index.cfm  ... this delivers
> 404...
> > > and of course CFIDE is Not in the IIS web root... not yet anyway
> > >
> > > I'm starting to think I don't know how to add IIS to a server... but
> it's
> > > pretty straight up.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 3:29 PM, Dave Watts 
> wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >> > IIS not being recognized by CF 11 install... at least that is what I
> > am
> > >> > thinking now. It's there... it's running... it has a Default Web
> Site
> > >> with
> > >> > a couple of user installed folders... which serve up .html files
> > across
> > >> the
> > >> > net no problem.
> > >>
> > >> Are you explicitly right-clicking on wsconfig.exe and running it as
> > >> administrator?
> > >>
> > >> Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> > >> 1-202-527-9569
> > >> http://www.figleaf.com/
> > >> http://training.figleaf.com/
> > >>
> > >> Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on
> > >> GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
> > >> instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite.
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: cf incorrectly thinks compiled java byte code is correct

2014-09-17 Thread Dave Watts

> > How do you know this? What do you mean exactly by "incorrectly compiled"? 
> > What version of CF are you running?
> > What are the exact error messages you're seeing?
>
> The reason I know it's not being compiled correctly is because when this 
> issue occurs, the errors that happen are
> indicative of the .cfm file being in place, but the byte code being empty.
>
> What I mean is, let's say page.cfm does a cfinclude on a high volume file 
> called set_first_name.cfm which simply
> sets a variable called "firstName".
>
> If that file is "corrupted" in the way I am describing, a "firstName variable 
> is undefined" error would occur when
> firstName was referenced back in page.cfm (after the cfinclude). Because even 
> though the included
> set_first_name.cfm file does indeed exist, the byte code that was generated 
> is behaving as if it is "blank" (for lack
> of a better term).
>
> I haven't personally examined the byte code, but 1) I don't have access to 
> the live server, and 2) I wouldn't really
> know how to read it.

Well, my take on this is that you wouldn't see this problem if the
file is corrupted. Instead, the entire page would simply fail to
render unless you had the CFINCLUDE in a CFTRY/CFCATCH. The generated
byte code has to be a fully-formed Java class that conforms to the
Java Servlet API, and it seems to me to be unlikely that the class
would be created correctly but just without your custom code. Again, I
don't know enough about the internals of CF to guarantee this, but I
do know a little bit about compilers and Java, and it seems unlikely.

It would be useful if you could simply compare the bytecode size
between "good" and "bad" versions of the same compiled class, if you
could access those from the live server. They may be written to disk,
in the cfclasses directory, if you have "Save cache files to disk"
enabled in the CF Administrator.

> > I've never seen this problem, even in many high-volume environments - some 
> > of which had their own problems.
> > And it doesn't really make sense, given my (admittedly limited) knowledge 
> > of CF internals. So, I kind of think this
> > is unlikely. Something else is probably happening.
>
> You may be right, but this is what we're experiencing. I also admit a limited 
> knowledge of CF internals.

I guess what I'm getting at here is: you definitely have a problem.
But I don't think your description of the cause of the problem is
accurate at all, and you could easily go down a rabbit-hole here by
focusing on what you imagine is the cause of the problem, rather than
the problem itself. The basic description of the problem is that
you're not getting the output under load that you get without load,
right?

What happens if you block incoming traffic to the server, stop and
restart the CF service, and rerun the same pages, with "Save cache
files to disk" enabled? My guess is that you'll get the correct
output.

> > That article isn't really related, although it could solve the problem you 
> > describe. You can precompile CF code,
> > then deploy that instead of the source code. You could try doing this to 
> > solve your problem, but again I don't
> > think that's really the problem you're having.
>
> I agree that the article is only somewhat related, but it is related in the 
> fact that, yes, there seems to be some sort of
> problem with the compilation process. We have thought about deploying the 
> compiled code, but wanted to see if anyone
> else had experienced this problem first.

You could certainly try to just deploy compiled classes and see what
happens. It's generally a good thing to do in production anyway.

Another approach you could try is to force the server to precompile
everything by running a test script that generates an HTTP request for
each CF file before you open access to users.

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1-202-527-9569
http://www.figleaf.com/
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RE: IIS not being recognized by CF 11 install

2014-09-17 Thread Eric Roberts

I am sure someone has already suggested it, but have you created the jakarta
folder and pointed it to ColdFusion11\config\wsconfig\1?  I have had
instances where this and the CFIDE folder weren't automatically created in
the default web root...


-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 12:16 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: IIS not being recognized by CF 11 install


> from the cf logs...
> Sep 16, 2014 17:49:10 PM Information [localhost-startStop-1] - 
> Starting WebSocket...
> Sep 16, 2014 17:49:10 PM Information [localhost-startStop-1] - 
> WebSocket server listens on port: 8577 Sep 16, 2014 17:49:11 PM 
> Information [localhost-startStop-1] - ColdFusion started Sep 16, 2014 
> 17:49:11 PM Information [localhost-startStop-1] - ColdFusion:
> application services are now available
>
> this kinda looks like the internal CF webserver is running... s I 
> just tried this:
> http://127.0.0.1:8577/CFIDE/administrator/index.cfm ... and this 
> seemed to try to run and I got a 403 error.
> http://127.0.0.1/CFIDE/administrator/index.cfm  ... this delivers 404...
> and of course CFIDE is Not in the IIS web root... not yet anyway

Actually, this doesn't indicate anything about the internal CF web server.
CF 11 supports web sockets, which are listening on a separate port (8577).

But, in general, I do recommend that people install CF using its own web
server, then manually run the web server configuration tool as needed to
connect to IIS or Apache. This helps differentiate between CF problems and
web server problems.

Also, once you've run the web server configuration tool, you should be able
to look at a separate set of log files just for that.

Finally, by default, once you run the web server configuration tool
successfully, the CF Administrator URL you listed should work regardless of
whether CFIDE is in the web root, or you've set up a virtual directory, etc.

> I'm starting to think I don't know how to add IIS to a server... but 
> it's pretty straight up.

There isn't that much to it, so I doubt it's your fault. An out-of-the-box
IIS install should work fine with CF 11.

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Re: cf incorrectly thinks compiled java byte code is correct

2014-09-17 Thread Brian FitzGerald

> How do you know this? What do you mean exactly by "incorrectly compiled"? 
> What version of CF are you running? What are the exact error messages you're 
> seeing?

The reason I know it's not being compiled correctly is because when this issue 
occurs, the errors that happen are indicative of the .cfm file being in place, 
but the byte code being empty.

What I mean is, let's say page.cfm does a cfinclude on a high volume file 
called set_first_name.cfm which simply sets a variable called "firstName".

If that file is "corrupted" in the way I am describing, a "firstName variable 
is undefined" error would occur when firstName was referenced back in page.cfm 
(after the cfinclude). Because even though the included set_first_name.cfm file 
does indeed exist, the byte code that was generated is behaving as if it is 
"blank" (for lack of a better term).

I haven't personally examined the byte code, but 1) I don't have access to the 
live server, and 2) I wouldn't really know how to read it.

> I've never seen this problem, even in many high-volume environments - some of 
> which had their own problems. And it doesn't really make sense, given my 
> (admittedly limited) knowledge of CF internals. So, I kind of think this is 
> unlikely. Something else is probably happening.

You may be right, but this is what we're experiencing. I also admit a limited 
knowledge of CF internals.

> That article isn't really related, although it could solve the 
> problem you describe. You can precompile CF code, then deploy that instead of
> the source code. You could try doing this to solve your problem, but
> again I don't think that's really the problem you're having.

I agree that the article is only somewhat related, but it is related in the 
fact that, yes, there seems to be some sort of problem with the compilation 
process. We have thought about deploying the compiled code, but wanted to see 
if anyone else had experienced this problem first. 

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Re: cf incorrectly thinks compiled java byte code is correct

2014-09-17 Thread Russ Michaels

do you have cf set set to save compiled files to disk ? this is the default
so probably yes.
if so, then try disabling this and deleting all those compiled class files
from the server.
The only benefit having this option enabled gives you is that when CF is
restarted, it loads all those files into memory again so that they do not
need to be compiled the first time the page is executed. This is only
really helpful on BIG apps which take a long time to load/initialise, for
everything else, the compile overhead is minimal and barely noticeable.

It also causes cf to take longer to restart, a lot longer if you have a lot
of files and can cause timeouts. Unless you have a specific reason to
enable this, you are better off with it disabled.

Also in your cfadmin do you have trusted cache enabled ?


On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 4:19 PM, Dave Watts  wrote:

>
> > I am wondering if many others have run into this issue. Basically, when
> we deploy certain "high volume" .cfm
> > files (i.e. index.cfm), they are sometimes incorrectly compiled to java
> byte code.
>
> How do you know this? What do you mean exactly by "incorrectly
> compiled"? What version of CF are you running? What are the exact
> error messages you're seeing?
>
> > What I believe is happening is when several requests come in while
> ColdFusion is trying to compile the .cfm file
> > to java byte code, the byte code gets created, but the process bombs out
> before it is able to complete successfully.
> >
> > Since CF in fact DID generate the byte code (albeit not correctly), on
> subsequent requests, CF "thinks" it already
> > compiled the byte code successfully so it doesn't try to compile it on
> future requests. What we end up with is a .cfm
> > file on the server with all the source code in place, and some incorrect
> byte code somewhere.
>
> I've never seen this problem, even in many high-volume environments -
> some of which had their own problems. And it doesn't really make
> sense, given my (admittedly limited) knowledge of CF internals. So, I
> kind of think this is unlikely. Something else is probably happening.
>
> > In order to fix the problem, we need to deploy the file again (sometimes
> one or two more times) in order to "get lucky"
> > in that when the high traffic file is hit, another request doesn't come
> in just then and interrupt the compilation process.
> >
> > Has anyone else come across this problem?
> >
> > Here is a related article:
> http://www.neiland.net/blog/article/compile-cfml-to-java-bytecode-plus-fusebox-fix/
>
> That article isn't really related, although it could solve the problem
> you describe. You can precompile CF code, then deploy that instead of
> the source code. You could try doing this to solve your problem, but
> again I don't think that's really the problem you're having.
>
> Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> 1-202-527-9569
> http://www.figleaf.com/
> http://training.figleaf.com/
>
> Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on
> GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
> instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite.
>
> 

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Re: IIS not being recognized by CF 11 install

2014-09-17 Thread Russ Michaels

have you installed the following REQUIRED IIS components ?


   - ASP.NET
   - .NET Extensibility
   - CGI
   - ISAPI Extensions
   - ISAPI Filters


On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 5:51 PM, Gonzo Rock  wrote:

>
> I have just opened up wide all the permission on the Default Web Site in
> IIS... I am still not getting CF 11 Std Install to see that IIS is running.
> wsconfig.exe is not seeing it either.
>
> What am I doing wrong? Totally baffled now.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 3:51 PM, Gonzo Rock  wrote:
>
> > Yep... that idea was outlined in the link I shared... I also tried the
> > install that way as well.
> >
> > Then I uninstalled IIS on the 2008 box ... rebooted it and then installed
> > IIS again. No luck with that either.
> >
> > from the cf logs...
> > Sep 16, 2014 17:49:10 PM Information [localhost-startStop-1] - Starting
> > WebSocket...
> > Sep 16, 2014 17:49:10 PM Information [localhost-startStop-1] - WebSocket
> > server listens on port: 8577
> > Sep 16, 2014 17:49:11 PM Information [localhost-startStop-1] - ColdFusion
> > started
> > Sep 16, 2014 17:49:11 PM Information [localhost-startStop-1] -
> ColdFusion:
> > application services are now available
> >
> > this kinda looks like the internal CF webserver is running... s I
> just
> > tried this:
> > http://127.0.0.1:8577/CFIDE/administrator/index.cfm ... and this seemed
> > to try to run and I got a 403 error.
> > http://127.0.0.1/CFIDE/administrator/index.cfm  ... this delivers 404...
> > and of course CFIDE is Not in the IIS web root... not yet anyway
> >
> > I'm starting to think I don't know how to add IIS to a server... but it's
> > pretty straight up.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 3:29 PM, Dave Watts  wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> > IIS not being recognized by CF 11 install... at least that is what I
> am
> >> > thinking now. It's there... it's running... it has a Default Web Site
> >> with
> >> > a couple of user installed folders... which serve up .html files
> across
> >> the
> >> > net no problem.
> >>
> >> Are you explicitly right-clicking on wsconfig.exe and running it as
> >> administrator?
> >>
> >> Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> >> 1-202-527-9569
> >> http://www.figleaf.com/
> >> http://training.figleaf.com/
> >>
> >> Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on
> >> GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
> >> instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite.
> >>
> >>
>
> 

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Re: IIS not being recognized by CF 11 install

2014-09-17 Thread Dave Watts

> I have just opened up wide all the permission on the Default Web Site in
> IIS... I am still not getting CF 11 Std Install to see that IIS is running.
> wsconfig.exe is not seeing it either.
>
> What am I doing wrong? Totally baffled now.

My guess is that there's some sort of network port restriction in
place - a software firewall, perhaps - that's keeping wsconfig from
being able to see IIS.

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Re: IIS not being recognized by CF 11 install

2014-09-17 Thread Dave Watts

> from the cf logs...
> Sep 16, 2014 17:49:10 PM Information [localhost-startStop-1] - Starting
> WebSocket...
> Sep 16, 2014 17:49:10 PM Information [localhost-startStop-1] - WebSocket
> server listens on port: 8577
> Sep 16, 2014 17:49:11 PM Information [localhost-startStop-1] - ColdFusion
> started
> Sep 16, 2014 17:49:11 PM Information [localhost-startStop-1] - ColdFusion:
> application services are now available
>
> this kinda looks like the internal CF webserver is running... s I just
> tried this:
> http://127.0.0.1:8577/CFIDE/administrator/index.cfm ... and this seemed to
> try to run and I got a 403 error.
> http://127.0.0.1/CFIDE/administrator/index.cfm  ... this delivers 404...
> and of course CFIDE is Not in the IIS web root... not yet anyway

Actually, this doesn't indicate anything about the internal CF web
server. CF 11 supports web sockets, which are listening on a separate
port (8577).

But, in general, I do recommend that people install CF using its own
web server, then manually run the web server configuration tool as
needed to connect to IIS or Apache. This helps differentiate between
CF problems and web server problems.

Also, once you've run the web server configuration tool, you should be
able to look at a separate set of log files just for that.

Finally, by default, once you run the web server configuration tool
successfully, the CF Administrator URL you listed should work
regardless of whether CFIDE is in the web root, or you've set up a
virtual directory, etc.

> I'm starting to think I don't know how to add IIS to a server... but it's
> pretty straight up.

There isn't that much to it, so I doubt it's your fault. An
out-of-the-box IIS install should work fine with CF 11.

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Re: IIS not being recognized by CF 11 install

2014-09-17 Thread Gonzo Rock

I have just opened up wide all the permission on the Default Web Site in
IIS... I am still not getting CF 11 Std Install to see that IIS is running.
wsconfig.exe is not seeing it either.

What am I doing wrong? Totally baffled now.



On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 3:51 PM, Gonzo Rock  wrote:

> Yep... that idea was outlined in the link I shared... I also tried the
> install that way as well.
>
> Then I uninstalled IIS on the 2008 box ... rebooted it and then installed
> IIS again. No luck with that either.
>
> from the cf logs...
> Sep 16, 2014 17:49:10 PM Information [localhost-startStop-1] - Starting
> WebSocket...
> Sep 16, 2014 17:49:10 PM Information [localhost-startStop-1] - WebSocket
> server listens on port: 8577
> Sep 16, 2014 17:49:11 PM Information [localhost-startStop-1] - ColdFusion
> started
> Sep 16, 2014 17:49:11 PM Information [localhost-startStop-1] - ColdFusion:
> application services are now available
>
> this kinda looks like the internal CF webserver is running... s I just
> tried this:
> http://127.0.0.1:8577/CFIDE/administrator/index.cfm ... and this seemed
> to try to run and I got a 403 error.
> http://127.0.0.1/CFIDE/administrator/index.cfm  ... this delivers 404...
> and of course CFIDE is Not in the IIS web root... not yet anyway
>
> I'm starting to think I don't know how to add IIS to a server... but it's
> pretty straight up.
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 3:29 PM, Dave Watts  wrote:
>
>>
>> > IIS not being recognized by CF 11 install... at least that is what I am
>> > thinking now. It's there... it's running... it has a Default Web Site
>> with
>> > a couple of user installed folders... which serve up .html files across
>> the
>> > net no problem.
>>
>> Are you explicitly right-clicking on wsconfig.exe and running it as
>> administrator?
>>
>> Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
>> 1-202-527-9569
>> http://www.figleaf.com/
>> http://training.figleaf.com/
>>
>> Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on
>> GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
>> instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite.
>>
>> 

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Re: cf incorrectly thinks compiled java byte code is correct

2014-09-17 Thread Dave Watts

> I am wondering if many others have run into this issue. Basically, when we 
> deploy certain "high volume" .cfm
> files (i.e. index.cfm), they are sometimes incorrectly compiled to java byte 
> code.

How do you know this? What do you mean exactly by "incorrectly
compiled"? What version of CF are you running? What are the exact
error messages you're seeing?

> What I believe is happening is when several requests come in while ColdFusion 
> is trying to compile the .cfm file
> to java byte code, the byte code gets created, but the process bombs out 
> before it is able to complete successfully.
>
> Since CF in fact DID generate the byte code (albeit not correctly), on 
> subsequent requests, CF "thinks" it already
> compiled the byte code successfully so it doesn't try to compile it on future 
> requests. What we end up with is a .cfm
> file on the server with all the source code in place, and some incorrect byte 
> code somewhere.

I've never seen this problem, even in many high-volume environments -
some of which had their own problems. And it doesn't really make
sense, given my (admittedly limited) knowledge of CF internals. So, I
kind of think this is unlikely. Something else is probably happening.

> In order to fix the problem, we need to deploy the file again (sometimes one 
> or two more times) in order to "get lucky"
> in that when the high traffic file is hit, another request doesn't come in 
> just then and interrupt the compilation process.
>
> Has anyone else come across this problem?
>
> Here is a related article: 
> http://www.neiland.net/blog/article/compile-cfml-to-java-bytecode-plus-fusebox-fix/

That article isn't really related, although it could solve the problem
you describe. You can precompile CF code, then deploy that instead of
the source code. You could try doing this to solve your problem, but
again I don't think that's really the problem you're having.

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cf incorrectly thinks compiled java byte code is correct

2014-09-17 Thread Brian FitzGerald

Hey guys,

I am wondering if many others have run into this issue. Basically, when we 
deploy certain "high volume" .cfm files (i.e. index.cfm), they are sometimes 
incorrectly compiled to java byte code.

What I believe is happening is when several requests come in while ColdFusion 
is trying to compile the .cfm file to java byte code, the byte code gets 
created, but the process bombs out before it is able to complete successfully.

Since CF in fact DID generate the byte code (albeit not correctly), on 
subsequent requests, CF "thinks" it already compiled the byte code successfully 
so it doesn't try to compile it on future requests. What we end up with is a 
.cfm file on the server with all the source code in place, and some incorrect 
byte code somewhere.

In order to fix the problem, we need to deploy the file again (sometimes one or 
two more times) in order to "get lucky" in that when the high traffic file is 
hit, another request doesn't come in just then and interrupt the compilation 
process.

Has anyone else come across this problem?

Here is a related article: 
http://www.neiland.net/blog/article/compile-cfml-to-java-bytecode-plus-fusebox-fix/

 

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