Upgrading from CF 4.5 to 5
Has anyone here upgraded a server from CF 4.5 to 5 before? The situation is that we would like to upgrade a client but they have a custom built ecrypted app from a previous developer installed. The previous developer is no longer in business so I can not ask them anything and I would like to make sure there will be no compatibility problems if we upgrade the client to CF 5. To upgrade them and then have the app they have installed not work would be a bad thing. I can not find anything about backwards compatibility issues on Macromedia's site so I figured I would ask the seasoned veterans. Thanks in advance for your feedback. - Bryant __ Why Share? Dedicated Win 2000 Server · PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionc FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Upgrading from CF 4.5 to 5
Indeed, David, we would like so that we can install a new set of graphing elements to their site. I've seen a couple of third party solutions for 4.5 but noted that the built-in graphing functions of CF 5 seem to be more reliable and flexible. - Bryant On Fri, 15 Mar 2002, David Schmidt wrote: First, you say you would 'like' to perform the upgrade. Is this really a like instead of a need? Is there a feature that you need in 5 that is not offered in 4.5? If not, perhaps it is not worth the risk? -Original Message- From: Bryant Tyson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 7:44 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Upgrading from CF 4.5 to 5 Has anyone here upgraded a server from CF 4.5 to 5 before? The situation is that we would like to upgrade a client but they have a custom built ecrypted app from a previous developer installed. The previous developer is no longer in business so I can not ask them anything and I would like to make sure there will be no compatibility problems if we upgrade the client to CF 5. To upgrade them and then have the app they have installed not work would be a bad thing. I can not find anything about backwards compatibility issues on Macromedia's site so I figured I would ask the seasoned veterans. Thanks in advance for your feedback. - Bryant __ Get Your Own Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionb FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: javascript or html to crash netscape or IE
You can always throw an infinite loop in your code. That's always good for hosing the browser. ;) -- Bryant Tyson, WEB DEVELOPER http://webtys.com WebTY's, The Educated Choice. On Tue, 11 Dec 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I mean, put the browser in such a state that its window does not update and it can only be made to go away by using Task Manager to kill the process. It's ok if the crash doesn't kill the OS. -Original Message- From: Ron Hornbaker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 3:45 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: javascript or html to crash netscape or IE I need a snippet of javascript/html/dhtml/css/whatever that will cause Netscape or IE to crash reliably so I can test something. I have certainly managed to crash them in the past but can't find the code that did it. Any ideas? http://www.netscape.com/ usually does it for me. ;) Seriously, crash how? Throw a JS error? Lock up the application? Lock up the computer? Lock up the house, and cause your toilets to overflow and your wife's hairdryer to catch fire? Be specific, man. :) -Ron ¸_¸.·´¯) http://www.BookCrossing.com ~ Read and Release! (¯`·.¸_¸. ~~ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
SOLVED - Scheduler Question
CFMAIL seems to be the way to go. Thanks for the suggestions guys. I'll take a look for that log file as well. ~~ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Scheduler Question
I have a scheduled task that was put into the scheduler around 10am that
was set to go off at 6pm today. It's set to run once with no end date.
Start date is today. The actual line from the scheduler is:
send_newsletters
HTTPRequest
12/09/2001 - INDEFINITELY
One-time at 19:00:00.
Run
Now how can I tell if the event went off as scheduled? ('i'm not on
that portion of the mailing list) And should it delete itself from the
scheduler if it has already run the one time?
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RE: Why aren't there more CF programmers out there?
On Tue, 27 Nov 2001, Tony Gruen wrote: Give him the FrontPage CD and tell him he is correct... and to do it himself. Brilliance. -Original Message- From: Justin Hansen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 5:40 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Why aren't there more CF programmers out there? A higher up said If ColdFusion was so easy to learn why aren't there more CF programmers out there? So what do I tell him? Coldfusion costs money to get into. You either have to buy the server software or pay an ISP for space. There are no free CF options that I know of. Yes you can download a trial version of it. But what do you do after that? You pay for it. PHP however is free to download and develop on. ASP is free to develop with as long as you have access to a Windows box (which 90% of the world does). If there were a free developers version of CF (and if there is then i've never seen it), the numbers might be more noticable to your bonehead boss. Frontpage. *gag* The micro$oft marketing machine is a beautiful thing though. Gotta give them credit for that. - Bry ~~ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Why aren't there more CF programmers out there?
On Tue, 27 Nov 2001, Paris Lundis wrote: Frontpage was nice when the web was 2 years old.. just like the pacifier your colleague no longer sticks in his whiney mouth or elsewhere... There was a time when FrontPage was nice? *has his mind boggled* -- Bryant Tyson, WEB DEVELOPER http://webtys.com WebTY's, The Educated Choice. ~~ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
CFMAIL cut-off
Has anyone ever had CFMAIL cut off their text? This is very odd. I have the code print out: HEADER #temp_newsletter# UNSUBSCRIBE INFORMATION Footer The header is fine. temp_newsletter gets cut off about 2 sentences from the end. The unsubscribe info and the footer both print out in their complete forms. So the test newsletter i'm getting in my inbox looks like someone stopped writing the newsletter at the end and then added the necessary footer info at the end. In preview mode on the web site (where I show what the newsletter is supposed to look like before it's mailed), the newsletter variable prints out to the screen in its entirety. CFMAIL never ceases to amaze me. I was thinking that there was a character limit on outgoing emails, but that can't be true since the footer info after the newsletter variable prints just fine. I'm stumped. -- Bryant Tyson, WEB DEVELOPER http://webtys.com WebTY's, The Educated Choice. ~~ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: CFMAIL cut-off
Also, there can't be a hidden character messing it up because the text gets cut off at random points. The only thing I can think of is that CFMAIL is sending the mail before the variable is done being written out. Wierd wierd wierd! On Sat, 10 Nov 2001, Bryant Tyson wrote: Has anyone ever had CFMAIL cut off their text? This is very odd. I have the code print out: HEADER #temp_newsletter# UNSUBSCRIBE INFORMATION Footer The header is fine. temp_newsletter gets cut off about 2 sentences from the end. The unsubscribe info and the footer both print out in their complete forms. So the test newsletter i'm getting in my inbox looks like someone stopped writing the newsletter at the end and then added the necessary footer info at the end. In preview mode on the web site (where I show what the newsletter is supposed to look like before it's mailed), the newsletter variable prints out to the screen in its entirety. CFMAIL never ceases to amaze me. I was thinking that there was a character limit on outgoing emails, but that can't be true since the footer info after the newsletter variable prints just fine. I'm stumped. -- Bryant Tyson, WEB DEVELOPER http://webtys.com WebTY's, The Educated Choice. ~~ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: cf_advancedemail version 2 beta testing
Jochem, You know what would make this even more useful? If there was a DELAY value somewhere in there. So when sending huge volume mailings we could break them down into timed chunks like we were talking about last week. So say: VOLUME= 2 DELAY = -1 Would send out 20k messages and then wait until the spool was empty to send the next 20k, all the way until the end of the query. VOLUME= 2 DELAY = 600 That would send out 20k messages every 600 seconds. Delay of 0 would just be no delay at all. Sound like something you could build in? I've been trying to do a custom version of this for the past week and failing miserably. =P -- Bryant Tyson, WEB DEVELOPER http://webtys.com WebTY's, The Educated Choice. On Sat, 3 Nov 2001, Paris Lundis wrote: something else kind of struck me when looking at your tag documentation... you are writing to the spool directory :) good... Now a lot of people have been on the list complaining about CF and its inability to manage large volume mailings... without disk issues, bugs, slowness, etc... I was wondering if you or anyone else had looked at the actual MAIL SPOOL on your mail server... Here is my next generation concept for your program and people developing mail stuff with regard to customized volume oriented programs... 1. Run the query.. 2. Construct the messages. 3. Rather than parsing to the spool directory: A. format the output to meet the standard mail specification. B. Parse the completed specification emailing to the mail servers outgoing directory... Anyone done anything like this? We run Mdaemon which is plain text files in directories just like CF... the specification would be simple to duplicate without documentation... Most of the other programs like SLMAIL and other 3rd party use text file format... not sure about Microsofts que... Anyone think such an approach might be worth investing time to attempt??? At any such point that this were to work, one would only be limited by the power of their email servers to send mail out... Maybe all that is obvious... Additionally, note, that this wouldn't work in situations where your email server is a shared resource of your hosting company/isp... I doubt they really support people parsing out volumes of email to their servers anyways :) -paris -Original Message- From: Paris Lundis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2001 14:49 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: cf_advancedemail version 2 beta testing looks good :) We will test it over this weekend likely... -paris -Original Message- From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2001 14:44 To: CF-Talk Subject: cf_advancedemail version 2 beta testing Hi all, just wanted to announce that cf_advancedemail version 2 has gone to beta and that I could use some help with testing. What is cf_advancedemail? cf_advancedemail is a custom tag that lets you send email in both plain text and HTML, and include images in the email message, so the images are also available when the reader is off-line. Does it work? From my server (CF 4.5.2 SP2 on NT) to Mozilla and Outlook it does. For the rest I don't know, and that is where I need help. How expensive is it? Free. BSD licence, so you are even allowed to use this tag in a project you sell to a customer without having to pay anything. (For version 1 you had to pay in the past, but no more.) How does it work? In its simplest form it works like this: cf_advancedemail from=me@domain to=you@domain cf_advancedemailparam URL=url tempdir=path /cf_advancedemail This would send an email in both plain text and HTML with all that is at the URL, and all images references at the URL. More advanced options include specifying a different plaintext and HTML text, cache control, advanced previewing etc. How can I help? Download the tag, install it and try it. I am especially looking for people who can test it on Solaris, HP-UX and Linux. The other thing is that if you have a really exotic email client you can send me an email (off-list) and I will send you a test message and you can tell me how it looks. Where to get it? http://jochem.vandieten.net/coldfusion/customtags/advancedemail/ Thanx, Jochem ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: CFmail Recount
On Mon, 29 Oct 2001, Justin Scott wrote: Eek! Sorry to hear about your bad luck! I can tell you that if you're sending out THAT many e-mails, you're better off... 1) Getting a separate server dedicated to handling SMTP spooling, then use CFFILE to write the messages directly to the spooler pickup directory instead of using CFMAIL. Hmm i'm wondering why you think CFFILE would be any better. If the corruption comes from writing the email message to the drive over and over again, I don't see how the situation would change. H. A different drive would get corrupted that way? :) Ok 3 new questions: 1 - What method does House of Fusion use? CFMAIL or CFFILE? 2 - Anyone from Macromedia have any light they can shed on this situation? 3 - Does anyone do a huge mailing list on their (a client's) server that hasn't corrupted the disk over time? 2) Outsource your mailings to a company that specializes in this type of thing, such as Postmaster General (http://www.postmastergeneral.com/). One of our clients used them to do a weekly mailing to about a million subcribers without a hitch. Thanks Justin, i'll keep this company for reference just in case this issue can't be solved on a local level. -- Bryant Tyson, WEB DEVELOPER http://webtys.com WebTY's, The Educated Choice. -Justin Scott, Lead Developer Sceiron Internet Services, Inc. http://www.sceiron.com - Original Message - From: Bryant Tyson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 12:43 AM Subject: CFmail Recount Thenks for the info Critter. Much appreciated. :) Now for a little story about what happened today. I created a newsletter page so that a registered base of 150,000+ subscribers would get it on what would most likely be a weekly basis. On its first run today however, it sent out approximately 2000 emails and then... exploded. It didn't just stop sending emails though, instead the entire server got fried! I called up the ISP and they say there's massive corruption throughout the harddrive!?!?! WTF? Since the only thing that happened out of the oridinary was the newsletter mailing today, they surmised that it was the cause of the meltdown. Once again I ask... WTF?! Is ColdFusion unstable to the point that sending out a newsletter would fry the server?!? One theory is that messages got bounced back to the server and it couldn't handle the load of outgoing and incoming. Ok fine, i'll buy that partially. Maybe it was indeed a wussy server. But corruption? File corruption from getting/sending emails? Hell the server wont even boot up now! Has anyone else had this happen to them? So here's a word of caution to anyone doing a newsletter from me. Try not to fry your server in the process. *laugh* I still can't believe this happened. Oh yeah, for those interrested in the code that allegedly melted down the server, here it is: cfquery datasource=zzz name=newsletter SELECT date, slug, content FROM newsletter WHERE newsletter_id=#form.tid# /cfquery cfquery datasource=zzz name=receivers SELECT email_address FROM members WHERE newsletter_flag=-1 /cfquery cfmail TO=#receivers.email_address# FROM=[EMAIL PROTECTED] BCC=[EMAIL PROTECTED] QUERY=receivers SUBJECT=#newsletter.slug# ZZZ Newsletter #DateFormat(newsletter.date, , D )# #receivers.email_address# = #newsletter.content# = UNSUBSCRIBE Here's how to unsubscribe or change your settings. http://www.zzz.com/updateprofile.asp /cfmail .. and yes, that's how I know 2000 emails got sent out, because I got 2000+ blind CC's. Left it in there from the testing phase. Ugh. -- Bryant Tyson, WEB DEVELOPER http://webtys.com WebTY's, The Educated Choice. ~~ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CFmail Recount
On Mon, 29 Oct 2001, Rick Osborne [Mojo] wrote: Tom muck said: Unfortunately, ColdFusion doesn't give us the option to split the spool directory into mulitple directories, so the server will automatically write all the spool files out to that directory up to 65,535 files before crapping out. Then it only sifts through them at the rate of 400 per minute. We had a similar problem and got around it by making our code smart enough to only spool mail if there is less than 200 files in the spool directory. Otherwise, it waits a minute and tries again. Sure, you may not be getting optimal efficiency out of your mail spool, but you're also not crashing the server. :) Now that sounds like the perfect good fix. How easy was it to code and did you use any custom tags? I'm wondering if it's something that's within my coding capabilities. - Bryant One caveat, tho. There is a known bug in CF4.x (fixed in CF5) that will occasionally create a zero-byte file in the mail spool. Upon trying to read this file, your cf server will go down *hard*. If you bring up the server again without deleting the file, it will just crash again. I talked to Allaire support about it last week at DevCon and they admitted that they hadn't been able to even figure out what was causing it, much less provide a permanent fix for it. They've worked around it in CF5 by doing a size test against each file before it is read, but they are *not* planning on retro-ing the fix back to 4.x. Their advice was to write a daemon in something other than CF that periodically checked the spool file for zero-byte files and deleted them. Also check to see if your CF server has already crashed and restart it. That's a bit out of the range of the majority of their customers, but that was their solution. -R Rick Osborne Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer ~~ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
CF Return Symbol
Would anyone here happen to know about how I can insert a return into a document with CF without using P or BR? I'm sending out a newsletter via email, but it's not in HTML format so I have to strip out all the P's and BR's which I've done. However I don't know what to replace them with. The ASP version of what i'm looking for is vbCrLf if that helps any. Thanks. -- Bryant Tyson, WEB DEVELOPER http://webtys.com WebTY's, The Educated Choice. ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
CFmail Recount
Thenks for the info Critter. Much appreciated. :) Now for a little story about what happened today. I created a newsletter page so that a registered base of 150,000+ subscribers would get it on what would most likely be a weekly basis. On its first run today however, it sent out approximately 2000 emails and then... exploded. It didn't just stop sending emails though, instead the entire server got fried! I called up the ISP and they say there's massive corruption throughout the harddrive!?!?! WTF? Since the only thing that happened out of the oridinary was the newsletter mailing today, they surmised that it was the cause of the meltdown. Once again I ask... WTF?! Is ColdFusion unstable to the point that sending out a newsletter would fry the server?!? One theory is that messages got bounced back to the server and it couldn't handle the load of outgoing and incoming. Ok fine, i'll buy that partially. Maybe it was indeed a wussy server. But corruption? File corruption from getting/sending emails? Hell the server wont even boot up now! Has anyone else had this happen to them? So here's a word of caution to anyone doing a newsletter from me. Try not to fry your server in the process. *laugh* I still can't believe this happened. Oh yeah, for those interrested in the code that allegedly melted down the server, here it is: cfquery datasource=zzz name=newsletter SELECT date, slug, content FROM newsletter WHERE newsletter_id=#form.tid# /cfquery cfquery datasource=zzz name=receivers SELECT email_address FROM members WHERE newsletter_flag=-1 /cfquery cfmail TO=#receivers.email_address# FROM=[EMAIL PROTECTED] BCC=[EMAIL PROTECTED] QUERY=receivers SUBJECT=#newsletter.slug# ZZZ Newsletter #DateFormat(newsletter.date, , D )# #receivers.email_address# = #newsletter.content# = UNSUBSCRIBE Here's how to unsubscribe or change your settings. http://www.zzz.com/updateprofile.asp /cfmail .. and yes, that's how I know 2000 emails got sent out, because I got 2000+ blind CC's. Left it in there from the testing phase. Ugh. -- Bryant Tyson, WEB DEVELOPER http://webtys.com WebTY's, The Educated Choice. On Sun, 28 Oct 2001, Critz wrote: oi Bryant!! CHR(13) CHR(10) is carriage return, line feed -- Best regards, Critter [critz.org] ~~ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
