Re: Windows 2003 + CF8 = 401.3 Error

2008-09-29 Thread Gus Denton
> > I have installed CF8 as a standalone server running it's own 
> webserver on a diffrent port 8501. My next
> > task is to individually connect IIS site definitions to CF 8 as 
> needed which I assumen can be acheived
> > by simply changing the application extensions associated with CF 6.1 
> to the CF8 install directory.
> 
> Well, not exactly. By default, CF 6.x and CF 8 use a combination of
> ISAPI filters and wildcard extensions; it's not as simple as changing
> file extension mappings. However, assuming that you want to have CF 6
> work with one IIS virtual server and CF 8 work with another, you can
> certainly do that. Just run the web server configuration utility for
> each, and map it to one IIS virtual server. You might find it useful
> to turn off CF 8 while you're setting IIS up with CF 6, and vice
> versa.
> 
> > I have to say the Adobe documentation could be more clear on the 
> differences between standalone
> > and multiserver which I do not really understand.. but here is my 
> stab at it..
> >
> > Can I assume that you use multiserver when you want multiple 
> instances of CF running on the same
> > instance of JRUN ? So my next question is why use this setup ?
> 
> There are lots of reasons why you might want to run multiple 
> instances
> of CF. Here are a couple:
> 
> 1. You can run different versions of CF simultaneously.
This is what I am trying to do ! but this is where I had the installation 
issues that started this thread..

I still am uneasy about not being able to get the multiserver setup to occur, 
maybe I am basically thick ! I get the impression that multiserver has be setup 
in advance that is the initial CF installation must be installed as multiserver 
 


> 2. You can map different CF instances to different applications or
> virtual web servers, providing isolation so that if one fails the
> others keep running.
> 3. You can work around the memory allocation limitations of 32-bit
> JVMs to more efficiently use the physical memory on your servers.
> 4. You can cluster multiple instances to provide failover within a
> single physical server.
> 5. You can build applications for deployment as EAR files, which is a
> nice Java standard for web applications.
> 
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Re: Windows 2003 + CF8 = 401.3 Error

2008-09-28 Thread Gus Denton
I have a resolution I think to this
I have installed CF8 as a standalone server running it's own webserver on a 
diffrent port 8501. My next task is to individually connect IIS site 
definitions to CF 8 as needed which I assumen can be acheived by simply 
changing the application extensions associated with CF 6.1 to the CF8 install 
directory.

I have to say the Adobe documentation could be more clear on the differences 
between standalone and multiserver which I do not really understand.. but here 
is my stab at it..

Can I assume that you use multiserver when you want multiple instances of CF 
running on the same instance of JRUN ? So my next question is why use this 
setup ?

If any of you rather kind persons can point me to pages or documents that shed 
more light on this then I would very appreciative

Gus

>> Here is a little more information..
>
>CF 8 doesn't support upgrading a single-server previous version of CF to a
>multi-server version. I recommend that you uninstall 6.1 before proceeding.
>
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Re: Sessions and more info

2008-09-25 Thread Gus Denton
no luck on that front either as we host a number of top level serices so the 
main uni cert would have to cover us. Trying to organise that.. well and end to 
poverty just might be easier to arrange ! 


>> No No cert server, and no wildcard cert for the institution 
>> though I am told that this has been under discussion for some 
>> mind numbingly extended period..
>
>As long as all your own sites are within a single subdomain, you could just
>get the wildcard cert yourself for that subdomain.
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Re: Windows 2003 server CF 8 Installation issue

2008-09-25 Thread Gus Denton
I think I have misunderstood what I am trying to do. In Adobes docs I am having 
trouble deciding between doing another "standalone" instalation and multiserver.

It appears that I can also run the standalone and it will also install a fresh 
copy of JRun with 1.6.x jre..

I have taken a few days off to do some handy work on my ouse so I can keep you 
posted on my installation adventures next week..

I have to say I REALLY appreciate this forum and all the suggestions that have 
come from it, you guys are great and generous with your time

Gus 

>> I have IIS 6 and CF6.1 On a dev server I want to experiment 
>
>I would recommend that you either 
>- just uninstall 6.1 and move your development server to 8, 
>- or get a dedicated box for one or the other, 
>- or uninstall 6.1, install 8 multi-server, create a new JRun server
>instance, then install 6.1 into that using the J2EE installation option.
>
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Re: Windows 2003 server CF 8 Installation issue

2008-09-22 Thread Gus Denton
I have IIS 6 and CF6.1 On a dev server I want to experiment with 8 without 
pushing the sites we are currently developing and that also are running under 
6.1 on the production server through 8.

CF 8 runs the JRE 1.6 whilst CF6.1 uses java 1.4.2
For 8 to co exist it must run on it's own Jrun instance and the only option to 
do this is the multi server set up.

I can then selectively connect individual sites through IIS 6 to either CF8 or 
6.1 by simply changing the file extension mappings within the site 
definitions.. This is my logic...

You are supposed to be able to do this at least have multiple instances of Jrun 
running

Have you ever tried this ?

>Gus, I don't know that you truly can deploy multi-server without a web 
>server. I do know that it's not suggested to use the built in, outside 
>of single instance dev. On the swing side, I connect to the built in 
>nearly every time I'm accessing the one of my instance CF admins.
>
>Just out of curiosity, why are you using the built in, and not using 
>something like Apache?
>
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>
>Gus Denton wrote:
>> 

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Re: Windows 2003 + CF8 = 401.3 Error

2008-09-22 Thread Gus Denton
Sorry no I made a posting on this thread before I worked out how to start a new 
thread !! Which I did with an apology for multiple postings



>Plesk is a control panel, are you the person who made the original question?
>
>Because the original question mentioned plesk!
>
>
>
>
>
>> 

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Re: Windows 2003 server CF 8 Installation issue

2008-09-22 Thread Gus Denton
> 
Doing a standalone installation using builtin webserver available with the 
installation


If not IIS, then what webserver are you connecting it to? Apache?
> 
> Steve "Cutter" Blades
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> _
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> 
> Gus Denton wrote:
> > Sorry for posting twice but I am a bit of a newbie at this..
> > 
> > I am have a really hard time installing CF 8 on Win 2003 SP2, I have 
> changed permissions on the directories, turned off DEP, Installed on 
> an old Win 2000 box and the same problem keeps poping up.. I am try to 
> do the multiserver installation  without linking to IIS and every time 
> there is a single error in the install log about ANT not being able to 
> find a single directory 
> xxx\servers\cfusion\coldfusionwar\coldfusionear\webinf\something\lib 
> I have changed permissions cleared temp directories and anything else 
> I can see on the web but to no avail.. I have even pulled down a fresh 
> copy of the Win 801 installer but no love.. Just an incomplete install 
> without any of the CF directories or a wwwroot Short of covering 
> myself in Chicken blood and dancing around a fire naked whilst 
> offering votive offerings to IT gods I am out of ideas ! can anyone 
> spare from an embarasing night in a paddock ! Gus 
> > 
> > 


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Re: Sessions and more info

2008-09-22 Thread Gus Denton
No No cert server, and no wildcard cert for the institution though I am told 
that this has been under discussion for some mind numbingly extended period..


>> I am working in a uni and we have multiple sites (on the same 
>
>Your university might have a certificate server. This would let you get your
>certs for free.
>
>You can also get wildcard certs, which can be applied to multiple hosts
>within a domain.
>
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Re: Windows 2003 + CF8 = 401.3 Error

2008-09-22 Thread Gus Denton
32 Bit not 64 bit is where we are at

What is Plex ? How do I find out about that ?

>This may seem obvious to some
>
>But Windows 2003 (32bit or 64bit), if 64bit are you using the 64bit version?
>These are known issues when trying to install a 32bit version onto the 64bot
>O/S
>
>Apart from that not 100% sure with plex, but there were some questions asked
>in another group about plex and Coldfusion 8. But first check that Windows
>is either 32/64 and grab the right version.
>
>I am assuming that you are running in 32bit for Windows 2003, but it needs
>to be asked. Also make sure you grab ColdFusion 8.01 for 64bit if you need
>to download it.
>
>You say you have cfmx6.1 so it sounds like it is an issue that was described
>awhile ago about getting it to run with plex, which really sounds like the
>issue. But I have seen the connector problem time and time again, when
>people try to install 32bit version onto a 64bit OS. It won't happen;-( well
>not with CF anyway.
>
>Lets us know what OS version (number of biys for OS), what version of plex
>and ColdFusion etc.
>
>
>
>
>
>> 

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Re: Windows 2003 + CF8 = 401.3 Error

2008-09-21 Thread Gus Denton
Here is a little more information..
The server already has CFMX6.1 installed on it in a directory c:\CFusionMX\

CF8 Installer creates a c:\JRun4 directory and proceeds with the installation 
in this directory...

Curiously the point where the error (in the log)occurs the installer (ant) is 
trying to call a non existant directory in the c:\CFusionMX directory even 
through I have requested a standalone multiserver install

Could this be a hardwired fault in the installer ?

Gus

>> I am have a really hard time installing CF 8 on Win 2003 SP2, 
>
>Are you sure you're installing from an administrative account?
>
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Re: Windows 2003 + CF8 = 401.3 Error

2008-09-21 Thread Gus Denton
Yes


>> I am have a really hard time installing CF 8 on Win 2003 SP2, 
>
>Are you sure you're installing from an administrative account?
>
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Re: Windows 2003 + CF8 = 401.3 Error

2008-09-21 Thread Gus Denton
Yes

>> I am have a really hard time installing CF 8 on Win 2003 SP2, 
>
>Are you sure you're installing from an administrative account?
>
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Re: Sessions and more info

2008-09-21 Thread Gus Denton
It is the same application (with the same name).. It is the same directory on 
the same server runnig under IIS 6. There are two site 'definitions' within IIS
The first site runs (unsecured) on 1 ip and has has the application directory 
as it's home.
The second site is on a diffrent ip but has my application mapped as a virtual 
directory... It's the same app on two different ip's. Thirdly which I didn't 
mention before..We have turned off socket pooling on IIS 6

> Gus,
> The session variables would be specific to the application name on 
> the
> server, not just the server.
> 
> Some options:
> Log into every application on the main login page by writing a
> cfapplication tag, then set the session variables, then repeat for
> every application.
> Log into every application from the main login page using cfhttp to
> call hidden secondary login pages.
> Make every application name the same, which would mean they would
> share session and application scopes.
> You could make use of the server variable scope or the database to
> pass information between the various applications.
> 
> I would be surprised if it turned out to be cheaper to pay an 
> employee
> to code a work-around then it would be to buy some SSL certs. If you
> buy enough certs from a place like Thawte, they give you significant
> discounts, or you could go to a discount certificate reseller. I
> realize that many organizations pay employees and vendors out of
> different budgets, which I'm guessing is the problem.
> 
> Good luck,
> Mike Chabot
> 
> On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 12:57 AM, Gus Denton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > Here is my problem..
> > I am working in a uni and we have multiple sites (on the same 
> server) requiring authentication. We simmply cannot afford to purchase 
> a cert for each site (domain and separate IP), so my solution was to 
> created a single site with a cert which has the other sites available 
> as virtual directories, Authentication would be performed via ssl and 
> then the user would be redirected (using cflocation) back to the 
> insecure site along with the session (cfif, cftoken) appended to the 
> URL, however when I do this I cannot see the session variables 
> established during authentication even though the cfid and cftoken are 
> the same 
> >
> > Any ideas how I can acheive this 
? 

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Sessions and more info

2008-09-19 Thread Gus Denton
Here is my problem..
I am working in a uni and we have multiple sites (on the same server) requiring 
authentication. We simmply cannot afford to purchase a cert for each site 
(domain and separate IP), so my solution was to created a single site with a 
cert which has the other sites available as virtual directories, Authentication 
would be performed via ssl and then the user would be redirected (using 
cflocation) back to the insecure site along with the session (cfif, cftoken) 
appended to the URL, however when I do this I cannot see the session variables 
established during authentication even though the cfid and cftoken are the same 


Any ideas how I can acheive this ?

 

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Windows 2003 server CF 8 Installation issue

2008-09-19 Thread Gus Denton
Sorry for posting twice but I am a bit of a newbie at this..

I am have a really hard time installing CF 8 on Win 2003 SP2, I have changed 
permissions on the directories, turned off DEP, Installed on an old Win 2000 
box and the same problem keeps poping up.. I am try to do the multiserver 
installation  without linking to IIS and every time there is a single error in 
the install log about ANT not being able to find a single directory 
xxx\servers\cfusion\coldfusionwar\coldfusionear\webinf\something\lib I have 
changed permissions cleared temp directories and anything else I can see on the 
web but to no avail.. I have even pulled down a fresh copy of the Win 801 
installer but no love.. Just an incomplete install without any of the CF 
directories or a wwwroot Short of covering myself in Chicken blood and dancing 
around a fire naked whilst offering votive offerings to IT gods I am out of 
ideas ! can anyone spare from an embarasing night in a paddock ! Gus 

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Re: Windows 2003 + CF8 = 401.3 Error

2008-09-18 Thread Gus Denton
I am have a really hard time installing CF 8 on Win 2003 SP2, I have changed 
permissions on the directories, turned off DEP, Installed on an old Win 2000 
box and the same problem keeps poping up..

I am try to do the multiserver installation  without linking to IIS and every 
time there is a single error in the install log about ANT not being able to 
find a single directory 
xxx\servers\cfusion\coldfusionwar\coldfusionear\webinf\something\lib

I have changed permissions cleared temp directories and anything else I can see 
on the web but to no avail.. I have even pulled down a fresh copy of the Win 
801 installer but no love.. Just an incomplete install without any of the CF 
directories or a wwwroot

Short of covering myself in Chicken blood and dancing around a fire naked 
whilst offering votive offerings to IT gods I am out of ideas ! can anyone 
spare from an embarasing night in a paddock !

Gus


> > Hi all,
> > 
> > I am hoping someone can help me out here. I have been trying to 
> > install CF8 on my new Windows 2003 virtual dedicated server. I use 
> the 
> > Standalone Server configuration, installed on all IIS websites. 
> After 
> > the install I am getting 401.3 errors when I try to access the CF 
> > Administrator or Plesk login.
> > 
> > I recently reprovisioned the server, so everything is back to the 
> > original state, before the CF install.
> > 
> > Here is the IP address of my server: http://208.109.83.61/
> > An example site hosted on my server: http://www.modologies.com/
> > 
> > It is a GoDaddy server, and it seems like it has to do with user 
> > permissions. Unfortunately, user permissions in Server 2003 is not 
> my 
> > strong suit.
> > 
> > There are some documented cases I found in a google search but none 
> of 
> > them really provided any results. I am hoping someone can point me 
> in 
> > the right direction. I think it is in regards to this problem: 
> > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/321390/en-us. It could also be 
> > something in regards to this as well: http://kb.adobe.
> > com/selfservice/viewContent.do?externalId=a9eb1bad&sliceId=1
> > 
> > Plesk and the one website I have setup in Plesk continue to work, 
> > until the CF8 install reaches this point: "Installing Web Server 
> > Connectors"
> > 
> > EDIT: I should note, if someone has experience installing CF8 in 
> > Windows 2003 Server, I will give you the details to Remote Desktop 
> to 
> > my server. If you describe the problem and how you fixed it i'll 
> > PayPal you some cash (like $50 or something)...
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > -Erik 
> 
> 
> First, uninstall any ColdFussion installation from your server. Next, 
> open the System Properties (i.e. right-click and choose Properties of 
> the My Computer icon) of the server, open the Advanced tab, click the 
> Performance Settings button, click the Data Execution Prevention tab, 
> and change the setting to "Turn on DEP for essential windows programs 
> and services only", click OK until you're back to the desktop and 
> restart the operating system.
> 
> This should be all you need to make it work, though the following tips 
> are a good idea anyway...
> 
> Make sure you have cleared everything you can out of the Windows Temp 
> folder (e.g. "C:\WINDOWS\Temp") and your own temp folder (e.g. 
> "C:\Documents and Settings\Your_Account_Name\Local Settins\Temp").
> 
> Run the installation at the console of the server, either physically 
> or via Remote Desktop (i.e. "mstsc.exe /console"), from the original 
> CD or from a folder on the server that does not have any spaces in its 
> name (e.g. "C:\CFMX7CD") -- not from a folder with spaces in the name, 
> and not from a UNC path.
> 
> I hope this helps.
> 
> -- Jeremy 


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