RE: The Death of DevNet :-(
Sorry for that, stupid spell check. Is Macromedia closing the "doors" on DevNet? Jason L. West, Sr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message----- From: Jason L. West, Sr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 14:09 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: The Death of DevNet :-( I just picked up on this thread so I apologize. Is Macromedia closing the does on DevNet? If so can someone please send me a link on this. Thanks, Jason L. West, Sr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Ben Rogers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 13:59 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: The Death of DevNet :-( Just received mine. Ben Rogers http://www.c4.net v.508.240.0051 f.508.240.0057 > -Original Message- > From: Christian Cantrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 11:14 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: The Death of DevNet :-( > > On Jan 5, 2005, at 9:40 AM, Ben Rogers wrote: > > > I still have yet to receive anything from Macromedia notifying me that > > program was being phased out. They have my e-mail address. They have my > > mailing address. Do they need a blood sample before they'll tell me > > what the > > heck is going on? > > Emails were sent out over the last couple of days to all DevNet > subscribers. > > Anyway, I really really really encourage you guys to send feedback and > questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] All the right people are on that > list. All we can do on cf-talk is post URLs to information on the > website which you guys have probably already seen. > > Thanks, > Christian > > > ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:189426 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: The Death of DevNet :-(
I just picked up on this thread so I apologize. Is Macromedia closing the does on DevNet? If so can someone please send me a link on this. Thanks, Jason L. West, Sr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Ben Rogers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 13:59 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: The Death of DevNet :-( Just received mine. Ben Rogers http://www.c4.net v.508.240.0051 f.508.240.0057 > -Original Message- > From: Christian Cantrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 11:14 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: The Death of DevNet :-( > > On Jan 5, 2005, at 9:40 AM, Ben Rogers wrote: > > > I still have yet to receive anything from Macromedia notifying me that > > program was being phased out. They have my e-mail address. They have my > > mailing address. Do they need a blood sample before they'll tell me > > what the > > heck is going on? > > Emails were sent out over the last couple of days to all DevNet > subscribers. > > Anyway, I really really really encourage you guys to send feedback and > questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] All the right people are on that > list. All we can do on cf-talk is post URLs to information on the > website which you guys have probably already seen. > > Thanks, > Christian > > > ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:189420 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CF tags work inside of CSS
Actually if you have control of the Web server that host the CFML server you could modify the server to have the CFMX server process the .css extensions. We have done this in the past with .js and .css plus adding some new mime types of our own like .whatever that is processed by CFMX. Jason L. West, Sr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Stuart Kidd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2004 10:16 To: CF-Talk Subject: CF tags work inside of CSS Hi, I have a colour theme which changes each month. Instead of having 12 different stylesheets to cover for the year i wanted to have some CF code at top of my CSS page, something like: So when I get down to the part in the stylesheet which says: a.preferences:hover { color: #FF; background-color: #8DC63F; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 6px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 6px; border: 1px solid #myColour#; margin: 5px 4px; text-decoration: none; font-size: 10px; } I've never tried this, do CF tags work in CSS? Thanks for you time, Saturday ps: for those North Americans... ;) (it's actually looks weird seeing it written as 'colour' nowadays). ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:189403 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Eclipse plug-ins
It is an annual renewal from what I understand. One other thing, with the MyEclipse IDE I am able to develop applications just as I would with IBM's WebSphere Site Developer. All the tools are closely the same without the binding of having to use IBM's environments. Jason L. West, Sr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Damien McKenna [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 16:37 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Eclipse plug-ins Is the MyEclipse plugin time-based, i.e. does it stop working if you don't renew your subscription? If I can get Eclipse working the way I want then I'm strongly considering getting it for work and home. -- Damien McKenna - Web Developer - [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Limu Company - http://www.thelimucompany.com/ - 407-804-1014 #include > -Original Message- > From: Jason L. West, Sr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 4:35 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Eclipse plug-ins > > I use the MyEclipse IDE along with CFEclipse because it comes > with all the latest tools that I need. This keeps me from > having to go around and find plugins and updates. > > http://www.myeclipseide.com > > You do have to pay for it after the trial but it is well > worth the money. > Trust me I am a big "Free" person (if it isn't free I don't > use it), but this is one purchase I don't regret. ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Silver Sponsor - RUWebby http://www.ruwebby.com Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:188082 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Eclipse plug-ins
I use the MyEclipse IDE along with CFEclipse because it comes with all the latest tools that I need. This keeps me from having to go around and find plugins and updates. http://www.myeclipseide.com You do have to pay for it after the trial but it is well worth the money. Trust me I am a big "Free" person (if it isn't free I don't use it), but this is one purchase I don't regret. Hope this helps. Jason L. West, Sr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Donna French [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 16:27 To: CF-Talk Subject: SOT: Eclipse plug-ins Okay, I primarily use CF 5 and MX, SQL 2000, and CSS - and I'm just wondering what plug-ins or added functionality are the Eclipse users getting the most bang from? So far, I'm becoming more and more hooked on CFEclipse, but I'm sure there is LOTS more I could be doing with it. I'm still in the process of checking out the resources but wondered what you guys are using and really seeing the greatest efficiency with? TIA, ~ Donna -- Donna French [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blog: http://dgfrench.blogspot.com Site: http://www.dgfrenchdesigns.com ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Gold Sponsor - CFHosting.net http://www.cfhosting.net Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:188077 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CF vs ASP.NET! GET YOUR FRESH POPCORRRRN!!
I agree whole heartedly!!! --- QUOTE --- Maybe I'm the only one that feels this way, but I vote to take this topic somewhere else. Macromedia Forums is usually the best place to have the "I hate ColdFusion" debates. --- END QUOTE --- These types of discussions are the reason I quit mailing list. Please, lets move this to someplace else. Jason L. West, Sr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Dawson, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 14:39 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF vs ASP.NET! GET YOUR FRESH POPCON!! Maybe I'm the only one that feels this way, but I vote to take this topic somewhere else. Macromedia Forums is usually the best place to have the "I hate ColdFusion" debates. I, personally, stopped using the forums mainly because of these religious wars. We all know CF rocks, but it's not the be-all-end-all of web app development. Also, I consider this list a great resource for learning and sharing CF, and web, techniques. There has been nothing beneficial from this thread. It has only served to waste my valuable time when I could be bashing .NET on another mailing list. Thanks M!ke ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Gold Sponsor - CFHosting.net http://www.cfhosting.net Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:187556 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Application framework - examples
My apologies BarneyB. After further investigation this is a quote from the following URL: http://farcry.daemon.com.au/go/spectra Well the Farcry fourQ COAPI was originally born of a need to move away from Spectra to a purely CFMX code base. fourQ effectively represents a COAPI that functions in a similar vein to the way Spectra operated. Obviously that is where the comparison ends but nevertheless we have a bunch of code that Spectra hacks might find useful. In any event, these Spectra snippets may keep you occupied until you can build up the courage to migrate the Spectra objectstores to fourQ! It has been a while since I looked into this frame work and I now stand corrected. Although, if you wanted to use the open source of Spectra you can download it from here and hack away. :-) http://spectrasource.macromedia.com Thanks, Jason L. West, Sr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Barney Boisvert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 12:20 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Application framework - examples Farcry isn't Spectra, and has been around a lot longer than since MM released the Spectra source. It happens to share a lot of architectual similarities, but is completely separate. cheers, barneyb On Thu, 4 Nov 2004 11:46:43 -0500, Jason L. West, Sr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Farcry (http://farcry.daemon.com.au) is a good one to use for out of the box > implementation of a website. It was originally Spectra before it Macromedia > released the source code and made it open source. > > If this is the avenue your wanting to go down you might also consider > CF_Nuke (http://www.mycfnuke.com). This is the cfml version of phpnuke > which is also a community supported CMS application. > > Hope this helps. > > Thanks, > > Jason L. West, Sr. > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- Barney Boisvert [EMAIL PROTECTED] 360.319.6145 http://www.barneyb.com/blog/ I currently have 0 GMail invites for the taking ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Gold Sponsor - CFHosting.net http://www.cfhosting.net Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:183428 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Application framework - examples
Farcry (http://farcry.daemon.com.au) is a good one to use for out of the box implementation of a website. It was originally Spectra before it Macromedia released the source code and made it open source. If this is the avenue your wanting to go down you might also consider CF_Nuke (http://www.mycfnuke.com). This is the cfml version of phpnuke which is also a community supported CMS application. Hope this helps. Thanks, Jason L. West, Sr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Marco Antonio C. Santos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 17:47 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Application framework - examples Thanx Damien but I'm looking for application framework - design side - and don't CF application.cfm framework... More design side, like contract menu, Admin framework Do you know Farcry? Farcry haves a good application framework... Thanx. Marco On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 17:40:36 -0400, Damien McKenna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Marco Antonio C. Santos wrote: > > >I'm looking for application frameworks for our CF application. Don't > >talk about CF application.cfm but models to construct navigations, > >menus like Farcry Admin, SmartCMS Admin, BlueShoes PHP framework, etc. > > > > > What are your requirements? There are architectural frameworks like > Fusebox, Mach-II which give you a loose structure to your code > architecture, then there are some that also wrap content management into > the equation, like some of the ones you mention. > -- > *Damien McKenna* - Web Developer - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > The Limu Company - http://www.thelimucompany.com/ - 407-804-1014 > "Nothing endures but change." - Heraclitus > > ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Gold Sponsor - CFHosting.net http://www.cfhosting.net Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:183372 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Anyone know what to do about this please? Error establishing socket
You might want to check to see if the authentication to the datasource is correct. Thanks, Jason L. West, Sr. WezBiz Technologies [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wezbiz.com From: Mike Kear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 10:03 To: CF-Talk Subject: Anyone know what to do about this please? Error establishing socket We're getting the error as follows: [Macromedia][SQLServer JDBC Driver]Error establishing socket. Connection refused: connect I think this is to do with the hosting company - is there anything we might do as site owners and developers to cause this? I think its something we're going to have to get WebCentral onto fixing, but is there anything else we can look at in our own code that might cause this error? Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com .com,.net,.org domains from AUD$20/Year [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: Best method holding form data.
Okay, there it is. I just overlooked the first time. I am impressed, I think this could also be implemented in the FB4 structure as well. I will get with you off this list with my code that I come up with. Thanks, Jason L. West, Sr. WezBiz Technologies [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wezbiz.com From: Kay Smoljak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 00:50 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Best method holding form data. OK, it works like this: - the add/edit fuseaction is called, with the id of the record to be edited. qry_widget.cfm checks for the existence of a structure or recordset with the same name first, and if it's not found, it then populates a recordset based on that id. If the id is not 0, the database is queried for the record. If the id is 0, querysim is called to create a blank recordset. Either way, this recordset is copied into the attributes scope. - the form fuse displays the populated form. All variables are in the form #attributes.queryname.fieldname#. If the id is 0, - the form is submitted to the validation fuse. If validation passes, the processing fuses are called (and will perform an insert if the id is 0 and an update if it's not). If validation fails, cfmodule is used to call the form display fuseaction again, with the layout suppressed. The entire attributes scope is passed into the cfmodule call with the same name as the query in the first step. The qry_widget.cfm fuse doesn't overwrite the passed in structure because it checks for it's existence before running the cfquery/querysim. - When the form display fuse is called, the variables are displayed because they're in the right format - #attributes.queryname.fieldname# - although in this case it's a structure not a recordset. At step one, you could use the querynew functions instead of querysim, but I think the custom tag is a nicer abstraction. Make sense? I think the code is a lot easier to understand than the explanation! -- Kay Smoljak http://kay.smoljak.com/ On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 00:27:50 -0400, Jason L. West, Sr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have scanned through your code over the past couple of minutes but am > unable to see where the querySim comes into play. Can you enlighten me? [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: Best method holding form data.
Kay, I have scanned through your code over the past couple of minutes but am unable to see where the querySim comes into play. Can you enlighten me? Thanks, Jason L. West, Sr. WezBiz Technologies [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wezbiz.com From: Kay Smoljak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 00:12 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Best method holding form data. On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 21:07:58 -0700, Matt Robertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In that article you mention "client variables have the storage issue". > > What issue is that? Well, I just meant you have to store them somewhere. Cookie, registry, database etc. Obviously database is the best option, but sometimes shared hosting companies will take issue with that. -- Kay Smoljak http://kay.smoljak.com/ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Best method holding form data.
I know there is a current thread going on about transferring and holding form data into the confirmation page, but I would like to get some feedback on what people think is the best practice for storing the form data into the session scope and the process of doing so. Note that the form should be able to populate if in edit mode as well as be reused for new entries. Then the data should be stored into the session scope once the form has been submitted. Again, I am just inquiring on how other developers are accomplishing this, so I might hopefully reduce the amount of code that I am using to accomplish this same task. Thanks, Jason L. West, Sr. WezBiz Technologies [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wezbiz.com --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.742 / Virus Database: 495 - Release Date: 08/19/2004 [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: exporting to csv or excel spreadsheet
Matt, Is there any documentation that goes along with the files to be downloaded from the OpenXCF site at SourceForge? My interest is in the javacfx.jar. Thanks, Jason L. West, Sr. WezBiz Technologies [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wezbiz.com From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 14:59 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: exporting to csv or excel spreadsheet Using the CFX_ExcelQuery tag at OpenXCF allows you to read and write real XLS files. -Matt > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of cf coder > Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 12:32 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: exporting to csv or excel spreadsheet > > Hello everybody, > > I've written this code that exports the search results to a csv file. Here > is the code: > > > FILE="searchResults.csv" > ADDNEWLINE="Yes" > OUTPUT="Date, Ref, Name #Chr(10)##Chr(10)#"> > > > > > & QUOTE & Reference & QUOTE & "," > & QUOTE & FirstName & QUOTE> > > > FILE="searchResults.csv" > ADDNEWLINE="Yes" > OUTPUT="#log_string#"> > > > > > > deletefile="Yes"> > > > I was wondering if its possible that when the display the header > information (Date, Ref, Name) > with some background colour formatting to the text. > > So for example when the above code is executed, the .csv file opens up > with 3 columns: > > Date Ref Name > 20/08/2004 T123345 Joe Bloggs > > Can I specify something in the code to for example make the header text > colour to blue. If yes, > can someone please show me the code or give me some tips. > > Best regards > cfcoder > > [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: Cold Fusion-based blog
Raymond, Check your blog, the only thing I am getting is a blank page. Jason Raymond Camden wrote on 7/30/2004, 09:46: > This thread seems familiar > > Anyway, you can download my blog at > www.camdenfamily.com/morpheus/blog. It supports SQL Server, MS Access, > and MySQL. A new version (3.5) should be released soon. [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: Creating XL spreadsheet
Matt, Do you a URL where the CustomTag can be downloaded? Thanks, Jason Matt Liotta wrote on 7/22/2004, 11:42: > > > Then just send the file to the user, cfcontent would work. > > -Matt > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On Behalf Of Dave F > > Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 11:14 AM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: Creating XL spreadsheet > > > > Please, can anyone get me started on how to create an MS Excel file > > from a > > db query(and then open it in a browser) from CF5.0/IIS/Server2000 > > > > Happy to read doc's/ref manuals if I can find 'em. > > > > TIA > > Dave > > > > > > [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: webroot level?
> isn't there a way to specify something like: > > img src=""> Yes this does pull from the root of your url: ex: http://www.site.com/images/image.gif [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE...
I just wanted to make a quick comment on your development environment. WOW! Must be nice to have the money for all of that software. So what do you recommend to us 1099 people who are going from project to project ? Or the developers who have that idea for an application and are working to develop it out of there garage? Thanks Jason L. West, Sr Internet Application Specialist, Sr. Dave Watts wrote on 7/17/2004, 14:24: > I'm not sure what counts as intense. I'm running Windows Server 2003 > Enterprise Edition, with IIS 6, multiple instances of SQL Server 2000, > multiple instances of JRun 4 with CFMX, Flex, Generator 2 (!) and > other things. I also have Apache 2, Tomcat 5, and some other server > odds and ends. > > I occasionally use VMware, within which I run Windows 2000, RH Linux > 9, and Windows Server 2003. > > The key is not to turn all these things on at once! Especially not the > VMware. > > I use Dreamweaver MX 2004, MS Office 2003, and Adobe Acrobat > Professional 6 on a pretty regular basis. My mail client is Outlook > 2003, with a local OST mirror of my Exchange mailbox. This local OST > is approximately 2GB. I also have about 3GB of PST content on here > that I access occasionally. I use VS.NET 2003 pretty regularly now, as > I'm very interested in .NET Compact Framework stuff right now. > Fortunately, I don't have to use all these things at once either, > although Outlook is pretty much running 24/7. > > Since getting this laptop, I've upgraded the memory to 512MB, and > upgraded the hard disk to 60GB. [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE...
Okay, I think we had lost focus on the subject of this discussion and that would be if the ROI would be there to develop cross platform applications for developers. Restricting most developers to on operating system to develop with your product is a poor choice. Developers are another bread of users to build applications for. Building applications for all other marketplaces is different when it comes to the general population. The funny thing is when you are developing application that are web based the end user has no care on whether it comes from a Unix, Sun, Windows, or Linux server. They are mainly concern whether the application gets the work done. (Business perspective) As for me I do care about whether or not an IDE has multiple builds for other platforms other than Windows. All though this is were the bigger share of the market is currently, will it be for the future? I mean as developers become more skilled and wiser to the abilities of other technologies, do you really want to restrict them to one operating platform in order to use your product? Thanks, Jason L. West, Sr Internet Application Specialist, Sr. [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE...
Dave Watts wrote on 7/17/2004, 13:34: > Because it might be more work to do this? Because it might not be > worth the time on the part of the developer to spend this extra time? I disagree. If you are wanting to hit a particular market with a product, should you provide the extra time to provide the product in something that in cross platform? Although MS has cornered the market with it platform, I am seeing more and more distributions of the Unix/Linux workstations in Enterprises and other countries. So if you were serious about producing something that developers would want to use in their production and would want to promote to other developers, wouldn't restricting the product to one operating system hinder you marketability? > That's funny. I've been working with Windows for the last ten years, > with very little stress to my poor old computer. I've been using the > same laptop for the last four years or so, actually, just replacing > the hard disk when it failed. I rarely reinstall my operating system - > again, only when I have a hardware failure, or when a new version > comes out that I want to use. Wow, that is great, good for you! I have had similar results, but only after Windows 2K/Windows XP came out. By the way, if you wanted to use Windows XP for developing web applications do you realize that IIS will only allow one instance of a web server? That means that you would have to go with something like Apache HTTPD in order setup multiple web servers on different ports. BTW, Windows 2K still allows multiple http servers. > I suspect that many developers use Linux or OS X because they're > different, or may have a greater perceived "coolness" factor. I don't > necessarily see higher productivity from those developers, though. Really, that is interesting. I always figured that developers developed on these platforms because a greater flexibility to create "Cross OS Platform" applications. Plus I have always found that Linux provides less stress on hardware while it is running. Plus, I am able to always have at my disposal code in the back end of the applications to tweak what I see necessary in order to create more robust applications both web and desktop. This is just my opinion though. ;-) Jason L. West, Sr. Internet Application Specialist, Sr. [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE...[ENCRYPTED]
Man I am loving this "Flame War". I wanted to respond to this particular post because it seems Sean has caught the most heat for his opinion on the products whether they are bias or not. I had some issues getting first setup with the He3, I had been forced to use the Eclipse plugin install method instead of the ".exe" install. (Which was not easy as well) Seems the installer is having issues finding the Java that I have installed on my Win XP. Oh well, all for the best. With that said, I also have the latest version of CFEclipse installed. That's right, both He3 and CFEclipse are complimenting each other with different features. For instance I use the Perspectives and MachII editor of He3 while editing my CFC and CFM files in the CFE. The insight for the tags is pulled from CFE. So if any one wants to download a zipped up version of what I got to use as their IDE please drop me an email and I will provide a way for you to download it. FAMOUS LINE "Can't we all just get along?" LOL Thanks, Jason L. West, Sr. Internet Application Specialist, Sr. Sean Corfield wrote on 7/15/2004, 02:02: > > Wrong. CFE has always had a cfml perspective. > > That was pointed out in the comments on that blog entry (which is why > I specifically mentioned the comments were interesting). It isn't the > default perspective after installing CFE and, unless you're familiar > with the way Eclipse works, it isn't obvious how to change that at > first. Quoting from one of my posts in the comments: > > "OK, I found the CFML perspective in CFEclipse. Yes, that makes the > workspace much better since it surfaces the snip tree view and the CFC > methods view." > > > That is just plain non-sense. First you can just close the view if you > > want - making it a "cleaner" (read less work put into it) interface. > > Again, assuming you are familiar enough with how Eclipse works. It's > obvious how to minimize / maximize views but not obvious at first how > to makes views go away altogether (or how to restore them later). Yes, > I figured it out after a while but this all goes to how Eclipse + CFE > behaves out of the box vs how He3 behaves out of the box - CFE relies > on users knowing a fair bit about Eclipse, He3 doesn't (or at least > doesn't rely as much on it). A lot of CFers who've tried Eclipse say > they don't like how complex it is (or appears to be) - it definitely > takes some getting used to. > > > CFEclipse has preferences - it always has. > > Again, read the comments where Spike points out how to find the CFE > prefs and I respond "Preferences. Thanx. I was looking for a dedicated > CFEclipse preference section (like He3 has) so I didn't notice that. I > can now set the insight delay to match what I have on He3!". It's > another Eclipse complexity that is just easier to find in He3. > > > Again this is silly - it's one line of code - a good thing about cfe > > is that it does number coloring?! Do you even write cf code Sean? > > Er, yeah, quite a bit actually... So even when I praise CFE (it's > color-coding is better than He3's) I still get flamed? The comparison > needs revisiting when He3 have fixed their color-coding of course but > right now it's much easier to read code in CFE. > > > There are key bindings that go with those that, of course, but you > > didn't even look for them (because they are with all the other key > > bindings in Eclipse) > > Right, so not knowing Eclipse, I wouldn't know where to look - if CFE > had all its prefs in one place in a separate prefs group, I'd probably > have found that and been happier. Having said that, I don't use > shortcuts for snippets anyway in DW (set it up, tried it, found I was > still usually quicker at just typing code instead of typing a mixture > of code and special keystrokes... years of writing code with 'vi' is > to blame for that I suspect). > > > date inserter that inserts the date to where your cursor is in the file > > Er, I never insert the date into a file... Why would I need to? > > > Can anyone say re-invent the wheel? There are at least 2 other plug > > ins for eclipse that do just that. > > Ease of use - He3 bundles a bunch of useful stuff that works well > together whereas you're recommending that I spend time locating > plugins and evaluating them to see which one suits me best. Again, > it's the Eclipse-is-complex-and-I-need-to-learn-it-to-be-productive > thing. If I can be productive without spending a lot of time and > effort 'building' my IDE, I
Re: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE...[ENCRYPTED]
To All: Man I am loving this "Flame War". I wanted to respond to this particular post because it seems Sean has caught the most heat for his opinion on the products whether they are bias or not. I had some issues getting first setup with the He3, I had been forced to use the Eclipse plugin install method instead of the ".exe" install. (Which was not easy as well) Seems the installer is having issues finding the Java that I have installed on my Win XP. Oh well, all for the best. With that said, I also have the latest version of CFEclipse installed. That's right, both He3 and CFEclipse are complimenting each other with different features. For instance I use the Perspectives and MachII editor of He3 while editing my CFC and CFM files in the CFE. The insight for the tags is pulled from CFE. So if any one wants to download a zipped up version of what I got to use as their IDE please drop me an email and I will provide a way for you to download it. FAMOUS LINE "Can't we all just get along?" LOL Thanks, Jason L. West, Sr. Internet Application Specialist, Sr. Sean Corfield wrote on 7/15/2004, 02:02: > > Wrong. CFE has always had a cfml perspective. > > That was pointed out in the comments on that blog entry (which is why > I specifically mentioned the comments were interesting). It isn't the > default perspective after installing CFE and, unless you're familiar > with the way Eclipse works, it isn't obvious how to change that at > first. Quoting from one of my posts in the comments: > > "OK, I found the CFML perspective in CFEclipse. Yes, that makes the > workspace much better since it surfaces the snip tree view and the CFC > methods view." > > > That is just plain non-sense. First you can just close the view if you > > want - making it a "cleaner" (read less work put into it) interface. > > Again, assuming you are familiar enough with how Eclipse works. It's > obvious how to minimize / maximize views but not obvious at first how > to makes views go away altogether (or how to restore them later). Yes, > I figured it out after a while but this all goes to how Eclipse + CFE > HAD TO TRIM THIS SO MY MESSAGE COULD POST ... [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: WOT but important[ENCRYPTED]
You are in my prayers and I wish you good luck. This comes from a veteran of the Persian Gulf War. God Bless, Jason L. West, Sr. Bruce Sorge wrote on 7/15/2004, 10:24: > Although I have not been a big contributor to this list, I have > learned a lot from it. I will have to unsubscribe though for a while > since I have just been told that I am going to Iraq with my national > guard unit. I am heading out next month for training and then should > be in country around January. Thanks to everyone who has helped answer > my questions and I look forward to returning and getting more great > tips and tricks from this list. > > Bruce Sorge [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: WOT but important
You are in my prayers and I wish you good luck. This comes from a veteran of the Persian Gulf War. God Bless, Jason L. West, Sr. Bruce Sorge wrote on 7/15/2004, 10:24: > Although I have not been a big contributor to this list, I have > learned a lot from it. I will have to unsubscribe though for a while > since I have just been told that I am going to Iraq with my national > guard unit. I am heading out next month for training and then should > be in country around January. Thanks to everyone who has helped answer > my questions and I look forward to returning and getting more great > tips and tricks from this list. > > Bruce Sorge [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE...
To All: Man I am loving this "Flame War". I wanted to respond to this particular post because it seems Sean has caught the most heat for his opinion on the products whether they are bias or not. I had some issues getting first setup with the He3, I had been forced to use the Eclipse plugin install method instead of the ".exe" install. (Which was not easy as well) Seems the installer is having issues finding the Java that I have installed on my Win XP. Oh well, all for the best. With that said, I also have the latest version of CFEclipse installed. That's right, both He3 and CFEclipse are complimenting each other with different features. For instance I use the Perspectives and MachII editor of He3 while editing my CFC and CFM files in the CFE. The insight for the tags is pulled from CFE. So if any one wants to download a zipped up version of what I got to use as their IDE please drop me an email and I will provide a way for you to download it. FAMOUS LINE "Can't we all just get along?" LOL Thanks, Jason L. West, Sr. Internet Application Specialist, Sr. Sean Corfield wrote on 7/15/2004, 02:02: > > Wrong. CFE has always had a cfml perspective. > > That was pointed out in the comments on that blog entry (which is why > I specifically mentioned the comments were interesting). It isn't the > default perspective after installing CFE and, unless you're familiar > with the way Eclipse works, it isn't obvious how to change that at > first. Quoting from one of my posts in the comments: > > "OK, I found the CFML perspective in CFEclipse. Yes, that makes the > workspace much better since it surfaces the snip tree view and the CFC > methods view." > > > That is just plain non-sense. First you can just close the view if you > > want - making it a "cleaner" (read less work put into it) interface. > > Again, assuming you are familiar enough with how Eclipse works. It's > obvious how to minimize / maximize views but not obvious at first how > to makes views go away altogether (or how to restore them later). Yes, > I figured it out after a while but this all goes to how Eclipse + CFE > HAD TO TRIM THIS SO MY MESSAGE COULD POST ... [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE...
Man I am loving this "Flame War". I wanted to respond to this particular post because it seems Sean has caught the most heat for his opinion on the products whether they are bias or not. I had some issues getting first setup with the He3, I had been forced to use the Eclipse plugin install method instead of the ".exe" install. (Which was not easy as well) Seems the installer is having issues finding the Java that I have installed on my Win XP. Oh well, all for the best. With that said, I also have the latest version of CFEclipse installed. That's right, both He3 and CFEclipse are complimenting each other with different features. For instance I use the Perspectives and MachII editor of He3 while editing my CFC and CFM files in the CFE. The insight for the tags is pulled from CFE. So if any one wants to download a zipped up version of what I got to use as their IDE please drop me an email and I will provide a way for you to download it. FAMOUS LINE "Can't we all just get along?" LOL Thanks, Jason L. West, Sr. Internet Application Specialist, Sr. Sean Corfield wrote on 7/15/2004, 02:02: > > Wrong. CFE has always had a cfml perspective. > > That was pointed out in the comments on that blog entry (which is why > I specifically mentioned the comments were interesting). It isn't the > default perspective after installing CFE and, unless you're familiar > with the way Eclipse works, it isn't obvious how to change that at > first. Quoting from one of my posts in the comments: > > "OK, I found the CFML perspective in CFEclipse. Yes, that makes the > workspace much better since it surfaces the snip tree view and the CFC > methods view." > > > That is just plain non-sense. First you can just close the view if you > > want - making it a "cleaner" (read less work put into it) interface. > > Again, assuming you are familiar enough with how Eclipse works. It's > obvious how to minimize / maximize views but not obvious at first how > to makes views go away altogether (or how to restore them later). Yes, > I figured it out after a while but this all goes to how Eclipse + CFE > behaves out of the box vs how He3 behaves out of the box - CFE relies > on users knowing a fair bit about Eclipse, He3 doesn't (or at least > doesn't rely as much on it). A lot of CFers who've tried Eclipse say > they don't like how complex it is (or appears to be) - it definitely > takes some getting used to. > > > CFEclipse has preferences - it always has. > > Again, read the comments where Spike points out how to find the CFE > prefs and I respond "Preferences. Thanx. I was looking for a dedicated > CFEclipse preference section (like He3 has) so I didn't notice that. I > can now set the insight delay to match what I have on He3!". It's > another Eclipse complexity that is just easier to find in He3. > > > Again this is silly - it's one line of code - a good thing about cfe > > is that it does number coloring?! Do you even write cf code Sean? > > Er, yeah, quite a bit actually... So even when I praise CFE (it's > color-coding is better than He3's) I still get flamed? The comparison > needs revisiting when He3 have fixed their color-coding of course but > right now it's much easier to read code in CFE. > > > There are key bindings that go with those that, of course, but you > > didn't even look for them (because they are with all the other key > > bindings in Eclipse) > > Right, so not knowing Eclipse, I wouldn't know where to look - if CFE > had all its prefs in one place in a separate prefs group, I'd probably > have found that and been happier. Having said that, I don't use > shortcuts for snippets anyway in DW (set it up, tried it, found I was > still usually quicker at just typing code instead of typing a mixture > of code and special keystrokes... years of writing code with 'vi' is > to blame for that I suspect). > > > date inserter that inserts the date to where your cursor is in the file > > Er, I never insert the date into a file... Why would I need to? > > > Can anyone say re-invent the wheel? There are at least 2 other plug > > ins for eclipse that do just that. > > Ease of use - He3 bundles a bunch of useful stuff that works well > together whereas you're recommending that I spend time locating > plugins and evaluating them to see which one suits me best. Again, > it's the Eclipse-is-complex-and-I-need-to-learn-it-to-be-productive > thing. If I can be productive without spending a lot of time and > effort 'building' my IDE, I