Re: Another CFML app server...
On Thursday 04 Dec 2003 20:32 pm, Rick Root wrote: Looks to me like BlueDragon Server is a better free option for CFML. Heck, I'm probably gonna go with BlueDragon 6.1 JX when it is released rather than upgrading to CF 6.1 from 5.0 on my box... We're sorta roughly looking at it as a cheaper alternative than CFMX. -- Tom Chiverton Advanced ColdFusion Programmer Tel: +44(0)1749 834997 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] BlueFinger Limited Underwood Business Park Wookey Hole Road, WELLS. BA5 1AF Tel: +44 (0)1749 834900 Fax: +44 (0)1749 834901 web: www.bluefinger.com Company Reg No: 4209395 Registered Office: 2 Temple Back East, Temple Quay, BRISTOL. BS1 6EG. *** This E-mail contains confidential information for the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify us immediately. You should not use, disclose, distribute or copy this communication if received in error. No binding contract will result from this e-mail until such time as a written document is signed on behalf of the company. BlueFinger Limited cannot accept responsibility for the completeness or accuracy of this message as it has been transmitted over public networks.*** [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: Another CFML app server...
At first I was trying to be optimistic and polite, but their site is such a distraction due to its lack of style and the more I explore and read about Coral, the more I am not in favor at all... -Original Message- From: Adam Wayne Lehman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 4:02 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Another CFML app server... Sorry. This whole thing seems a little backwoods to me. I'll admit I'm superficial about this sort of thing, but I'm not about to use a webserver from a company who has such a crappy site. The information about the server so far is misleading at best. Not a single person on their staff is here to comment to the community? Or bother to make an official announcement? Adam Wayne Lehman Web Systems Developer Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health Distance Education Division -Original Message- From: Thane Sherrington [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 3:43 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Another CFML app server... At 03:24 PM 12/4/03 -0500, Adam Wayne Lehman wrote: Seriously though. they only support like 25 tags! You'd be better off just learning the ASP equivalents and calling it a day! 24 by my count (I'm ignoring cflock since it isn't needed.) cfabort cfapplication cfbreak cfcookie cfdirectory cfexecute cffile cfhttp cfif cfelse cfelseif cfinclude cflocation cflock not required in Coral cfloop cfmail cfoutput cfparam cfpop cfprocessingdirective cfquery cfscript cfset cftransaction cftry/cfcatch While it could be better, it is a start - we should be encouraging this sort of thing, I think. T Adam Wayne Lehman Web Systems Developer Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health Distance Education Division -Original Message- From: Dan Farmer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 12:34 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Another CFML app server... A the links seemed to work for me as well. I kinda like the idea of this... From: Greg Luce [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Another CFML app server... Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:36:44 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from houseoffusion.com ([64.118.64.245]) by mc5-f39.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Thu, 4 Dec 2003 08:41:33 -0800 Received: from LOCALHOST by LOCALHOSTwith ESMTP id 9EF0D689E3AD1E40A2C3F72EDF6FB058Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:39:33 -0500 X-Message-Info: JGTYoYF78jGZZGSE3Ub5y1wF09VcJMdd Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: bulk References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Dec 2003 16:41:41.0752 (UTC) FILETIME=[7ED08F80:01C3BA85] What doesn't work? I just bounced through it all and downloaded it. -Original Message- From: Gabriel Robichaud [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 10:11 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Another CFML app server... Chickens. -Original Message- From: Ryan Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 10:09 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Another CFML app server... I think its been removed :) On 4/12/03 3:04 pm, Gabriel Robichaud [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: wow... the site must be down, i was able to view it all this am. Gabriel -Original Message- From: Clint Tredway [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 10:03 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Another CFML app server... I would like to try it, but none of the links work on the site ;) Tim Blair wrote: Morning, Has anyone seen this before: http://www.pcaonline.com/coral/ http://www.pcaonline.com/coral/ It's a new one on me... Tim. --- RAWNET LTD - Internet, New Media and ebusiness Gurus. Visit our new website at http://www.rawnet.com http://www.rawnet.comfor more information about our company, or call us free anytime on 0800 294 24 24. --- Tim Blair Web Application Engineer, Rawnet Limited Direct Phone : +44 (0) 1344 393 441 Switchboard : +44 (0) 1344 393 040 --- This message may contain information which is legally privileged and/or confidential.If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorised disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this information is strictly prohibited. Such notification notwithstanding, any comments, opinions, information or conclusions expressed in this message are those of the originator, not of rawnet limited, unless otherwise explicitly and independently indicated by an authorised representative of rawnet limited. --- _ _ _ _ _ _ [Todays
RE: Another CFML app server...
I use switch/case tags and don't use Fusebox. Admittedly not very often but if logic dictates... Why is it bad to use them,is there a substantial overhead verses cfifs ? I must admit the one curious thing I have always though about Fusebox is that essentially boils down to a switch/case statment and I can't believe that for a big app it's that efficient. imho -Original Message- From: Adam Wayne Lehman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 December 2003 20:25 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Another CFML app server... Dear FuseBox Users, No one uses cfcase/cfswitch. So It's not supported in Coral. Seriously though. they only support like 25 tags! You'd be better off just learning the ASP equivalents and calling it a day! Adam Wayne Lehman Web Systems Developer Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health Distance Education Division -Original Message- From: Dan Farmer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 12:34 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Another CFML app server... A the links seemed to work for me as well. I kinda like the idea of this... From: Greg Luce [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Another CFML app server... Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:36:44 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from houseoffusion.com ([64.118.64.245]) by mc5-f39.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Thu, 4 Dec 2003 08:41:33 -0800 Received: from LOCALHOST by LOCALHOSTwith ESMTP id 9EF0D689E3AD1E40A2C3F72EDF6FB058Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:39:33 -0500 X-Message-Info: JGTYoYF78jGZZGSE3Ub5y1wF09VcJMdd Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: bulk References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Dec 2003 16:41:41.0752 (UTC) FILETIME=[7ED08F80:01C3BA85] What doesn't work? I just bounced through it all and downloaded it. -Original Message- From: Gabriel Robichaud [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 10:11 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Another CFML app server... Chickens. -Original Message- From: Ryan Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 10:09 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Another CFML app server... I think its been removed :) On 4/12/03 3:04 pm, Gabriel Robichaud [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: wow... the site must be down, i was able to view it all this am. Gabriel -Original Message- From: Clint Tredway [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 10:03 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Another CFML app server... I would like to try it, but none of the links work on the site ;) Tim Blair wrote: Morning, Has anyone seen this before: http://www.pcaonline.com/coral/ It's a new one on me... Tim. --- RAWNET LTD - Internet, New Media and ebusiness Gurus. Visit our new website at http://www.rawnet.com for more information about our company, or call us free anytime on 0800 294 24 24. --- Tim Blair Web Application Engineer, Rawnet Limited Direct Phone : +44 (0) 1344 393 441 Switchboard : +44 (0) 1344 393 040 --- This message may contain information which is legally privileged and/or confidential.If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorised disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this information is strictly prohibited. Such notification notwithstanding, any comments, opinions, information or conclusions expressed in this message are those of the originator, not of rawnet limited, unless otherwise explicitly and independently indicated by an authorised representative of rawnet limited. --- _ _ _ _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: Another CFML app server...
On Friday 05 Dec 2003 11:39 am, Tangorre, Michael wrote: [not a lot, but quoted everyone in full] Would it kill people to trim the quoted emails down a little ? Not directed at just you Michael ! -- Tom Chiverton Advanced ColdFusion Programmer Tel: +44(0)1749 834997 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] BlueFinger Limited Underwood Business Park Wookey Hole Road, WELLS. BA5 1AF Tel: +44 (0)1749 834900 Fax: +44 (0)1749 834901 web: www.bluefinger.com Company Reg No: 4209395 Registered Office: 2 Temple Back East, Temple Quay, BRISTOL. BS1 6EG. *** This E-mail contains confidential information for the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify us immediately. You should not use, disclose, distribute or copy this communication if received in error. No binding contract will result from this e-mail until such time as a written document is signed on behalf of the company. BlueFinger Limited cannot accept responsibility for the completeness or accuracy of this message as it has been transmitted over public networks.*** [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: Another CFML app server...
Interesting considering some people have 22 line signatures. :-) Would it kill people to trim the quoted emails down a little ? Not directed at just you Michael ! [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: Another CFML app server...
Would it kill people to trim the quoted emails down a little ? Not directed at just you Michael ! Interesting considering some people have 22 line signatures. :-) Required by company no doubt.. [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: Another CFML app server...
I use switch/case tags and don't use Fusebox. Admittedly not very often but if logic dictates... Why is it bad to use them,is there a substantial overhead verses cfifs ? I must admit the one curious thing I have always though about Fusebox is that essentially boils down to a switch/case statment and I can't believe that for a big app it's that efficient. imho CFSWITCH has an exponentially better performance than CFIF the more entries you use The reason for this is that the choices are hard coded into the CFCASE elements, while each entry in a CFIF has to be evaluated every time it runs the code FuseBox uses CFSWITCH a lot, so anything written in it would have to be re-written to work on this systems... But then again, just about any application would, as the tag list is very limited [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: Another CFML app server...
On Friday 05 Dec 2003 13:07 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would it kill people to trim the quoted emails down a little ? Interesting considering some people have 22 line signatures. :-) Required by company no doubt.. Yup. And i've told them it's shite. And I've told them it's anti-netiquete. And I've told them I don't want my plain-text email address, postal details, phone and fax numbers dumped where any spam bot can find them. But *no* :-( -- Tom Chiverton Advanced ColdFusion Programmer Tel: +44(0)1749 834997 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] BlueFinger Limited Underwood Business Park Wookey Hole Road, WELLS. BA5 1AF Tel: +44 (0)1749 834900 Fax: +44 (0)1749 834901 web: www.bluefinger.com Company Reg No: 4209395 Registered Office: 2 Temple Back East, Temple Quay, BRISTOL. BS1 6EG. *** This E-mail contains confidential information for the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify us immediately. You should not use, disclose, distribute or copy this communication if received in error. No binding contract will result from this e-mail until such time as a written document is signed on behalf of the company. BlueFinger Limited cannot accept responsibility for the completeness or accuracy of this message as it has been transmitted over public networks.*** [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: Another CFML app server...
Tangorre, Michael wrote: Interesting considering some people have 22 line signatures. :-) Atleast they use a proper signature delimiter so the signature isn't quoted in the reply :-) Jochem -- When you don't want to be surprised by the revolution organize one yourself - Loesje [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: Another CFML app server...
Well you got me on that one I guess... what an email novice I must be. -Original Message- From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 8:12 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Another CFML app server... Tangorre, Michael wrote: Interesting considering some people have 22 line signatures. :-) Atleast they use a proper signature delimiter so the signature isn't quoted in the reply :-) Jochem -- When you don't want to be surprised by the revolution organize one yourself - Loesje _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: Another CFML app server...
Jochem, What is the proper signature delimiter? Steve -Original Message- From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 8:12 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Another CFML app server... Tangorre, Michael wrote: Interesting considering some people have 22 line signatures. :-) Atleast they use a proper signature delimiter so the signature isn't quoted in the reply :-) Jochem -- When you don't want to be surprised by the revolution organize one yourself - Loesje _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: Another CFML app server...
On Friday 05 Dec 2003 13:10 pm, Tangorre, Michael wrote: Well you got me on that one I guess... what an email novice I must be. -Original Message- Hmm, top quoting too :-) -- Tom Chiverton Advanced ColdFusion Programmer Tel: +44(0)1749 834997 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] BlueFinger Limited Underwood Business Park Wookey Hole Road, WELLS. BA5 1AF Tel: +44 (0)1749 834900 Fax: +44 (0)1749 834901 web: www.bluefinger.com Company Reg No: 4209395 Registered Office: 2 Temple Back East, Temple Quay, BRISTOL. BS1 6EG. *** This E-mail contains confidential information for the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify us immediately. You should not use, disclose, distribute or copy this communication if received in error. No binding contract will result from this e-mail until such time as a written document is signed on behalf of the company. BlueFinger Limited cannot accept responsibility for the completeness or accuracy of this message as it has been transmitted over public networks.*** [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: Another CFML app server...
DURETTE, STEVEN J (AIT) wrote: What is the proper signature delimiter? dash dash space on a line by itself. Mail clients should discard that line and everything below it when quoting a message in a reply. Jochem -- When you don't want to be surprised by the revolution organize one yourself - Loesje [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: Another CFML app server...
Hmmm...Outlook Express doesn't do that :) We all know how much you love MS email clients vbg -- Regards, Howie - Original Message - From: Jochem van Dieten To: CF-Talk Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 8:24 AM Subject: Re: Another CFML app server... dash dash space on a line by itself. Mail clients should discard that line and everything below it when quoting a message in a reply. Jochem -- When you don't want to be surprised by the revolution organize one yourself - Loesje [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: Another CFML app server...
phone and fax numbers dumped where any spam bot can find them Just out of curriosity, why attach it then? -Original Message- From: Thomas Chiverton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 December 2003 13:10 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Another CFML app server... On Friday 05 Dec 2003 13:07 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would it kill people to trim the quoted emails down a little ? Interesting considering some people have 22 line signatures. :-) Required by company no doubt.. Yup. And i've told them it's shite. And I've told them it's anti-netiquete. And I've told them I don't want my plain-text email address, postal details, phone and fax numbers dumped where any spam bot can find them. But *no* :-( -- Tom Chiverton Advanced ColdFusion Programmer Tel: +44(0)1749 834997 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] BlueFinger Limited Underwood Business Park Wookey Hole Road, WELLS. BA5 1AF Tel: +44 (0)1749 834900 Fax: +44 (0)1749 834901 web: www.bluefinger.com Company Reg No: 4209395 Registered Office: 2 Temple Back East, Temple Quay, BRISTOL. BS1 6EG. *** This E-mail contains confidential information for the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify us immediately. You should not use, disclose, distribute or copy this communication if received in error. No binding contract will result from this e-mail until such time as a written document is signed on behalf of the company. BlueFinger Limited cannot accept responsibility for the completeness or accuracy of this message as it has been transmitted over public networks.*** _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: Another CFML app server...
On Friday 05 Dec 2003 13:30 pm, Howie Hamlin wrote: Hmmm...Outlook Express doesn't do that :) have you seen OEQuoteFix ? -- Tom Chiverton Advanced ColdFusion Programmer Tel: +44(0)1749 834997 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] BlueFinger Limited Underwood Business Park Wookey Hole Road, WELLS. BA5 1AF Tel: +44 (0)1749 834900 Fax: +44 (0)1749 834901 web: www.bluefinger.com Company Reg No: 4209395 Registered Office: 2 Temple Back East, Temple Quay, BRISTOL. BS1 6EG. *** This E-mail contains confidential information for the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify us immediately. You should not use, disclose, distribute or copy this communication if received in error. No binding contract will result from this e-mail until such time as a written document is signed on behalf of the company. BlueFinger Limited cannot accept responsibility for the completeness or accuracy of this message as it has been transmitted over public networks.*** [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
BlueDragon (was Re: Another CFML app server...)
We're sorta roughly looking at it as a cheaper alternative than CFMX. While that is certainly one difference between BlueDragon and ColdFusion, it isn't the only one. There are many other reasons to chose BlueDragon over ColdFusion and vice versa. With the BlueDragon 6.1's availability around the corner I think it is now clear that at least from a CFML perspective, the two application servers are very similar and will remain that way into the future. Of course, there is a lot more to a CF application than just CFML and each of the respective products has functionality that they share and some that they don't. I think it is important for the CF community to understand these differences, so their CF applications can be deployed on the best possible platform for their needs. In some cases that may be ColdFusion and in other cases it may be BlueDragon, but the point is there is a choice and BlueDragon's strong showing as of 6.1 just made that choice a lot harder than it used to be by implemented much of CFMX. Matt Liotta President CEO Montara Software, Inc. http://www.MontaraSoftware.com (888) 408-0900 x901 [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: Another CFML app server...
Yep - and I have it installed.A stock version of OE doesn't detect sigs. Regards, Howie - Original Message - From: Thomas Chiverton To: CF-Talk Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 8:50 AM Subject: Re: Another CFML app server... On Friday 05 Dec 2003 13:30 pm, Howie Hamlin wrote: Hmmm...Outlook Express doesn't do that :) have you seen OEQuoteFix ? -- Tom Chiverton Advanced ColdFusion Programmer [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: Another CFML app server...
On Friday 05 Dec 2003 13:48 pm, John McCosker wrote: phone and fax numbers dumped where any spam bot can find them Just out of curriosity, why attach it then? Which bit of 'required by company, yup' passed you by ? -- Tom Chiverton Advanced ColdFusion Programmer Tel: +44(0)1749 834997 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] BlueFinger Limited Underwood Business Park Wookey Hole Road, WELLS. BA5 1AF Tel: +44 (0)1749 834900 Fax: +44 (0)1749 834901 web: www.bluefinger.com Company Reg No: 4209395 Registered Office: 2 Temple Back East, Temple Quay, BRISTOL. BS1 6EG. *** This E-mail contains confidential information for the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify us immediately. You should not use, disclose, distribute or copy this communication if received in error. No binding contract will result from this e-mail until such time as a written document is signed on behalf of the company. BlueFinger Limited cannot accept responsibility for the completeness or accuracy of this message as it has been transmitted over public networks.*** [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: BlueDragon (was Re: Another CFML app server...)
On Friday 05 Dec 2003 13:56 pm, Matt Liotta wrote: We're sorta roughly looking at it as a cheaper alternative than CFMX. choice and BlueDragon's strong showing as of 6.1 just made that choice a lot harder than it used to be by implemented much of CFMX. :nods That's one of the things that has made us look at it again (we first did when MX was in beta). We may have to deploy CF servers to customer sites in future, so the per-server costs are more important now. -- Tom Chiverton Advanced ColdFusion Programmer Tel: +44(0)1749 834997 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] BlueFinger Limited Underwood Business Park Wookey Hole Road, WELLS. BA5 1AF Tel: +44 (0)1749 834900 Fax: +44 (0)1749 834901 web: www.bluefinger.com Company Reg No: 4209395 Registered Office: 2 Temple Back East, Temple Quay, BRISTOL. BS1 6EG. *** This E-mail contains confidential information for the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify us immediately. You should not use, disclose, distribute or copy this communication if received in error. No binding contract will result from this e-mail until such time as a written document is signed on behalf of the company. BlueFinger Limited cannot accept responsibility for the completeness or accuracy of this message as it has been transmitted over public networks.*** [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: BlueDragon (was Re: Another CFML app server...)
Matt wrote: ColdFusion, it isn't the only one. There are many other reasons to chose BlueDragon over ColdFusion and vice versa. With the BlueDragon Any chance of elaboration on that point?Main advantages/disadvantages? -dc [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: BlueDragon (was Re: Another CFML app server...)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matt wrote: ColdFusion, it isn't the only one. There are many other reasons to chose BlueDragon over ColdFusion and vice versa. With the BlueDragon Any chance of elaboration on that point?Main advantages/disadvantages? The cost advantage is even larger if you want to run JSPs and servlets as will as CFML.From what I can tell, BlueDragon JX 6.1 will allow you to do that for $549 while Cold Fusion Professional at $1299 will not.. you have to get Enterprise to actually be able to use CFMX as a JSP/Servlet engine, right?(I could be way off here) - Rick [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: BlueDragon (was Re: Another CFML app server...)
Any chance of elaboration on that point? Main advantages/disadvantages? That is an interesting question and partially why I brought it up. I'm not sure that I know all the advantages and disadvantages. I could certainly start listing things off the top of my head, but I don't know that would cover things. However, maybe if others chime in we can all get a more thorough list. The disadvantages list is pretty easy I think. Anything CFMX does that BlueDragon doesn't would be on that list. I believe the BlueDragon compatibility guide does a good job of explaining that. For advantages I would list the following: * price * standard deployment to any Servlet engine/J2EE app server * deployment without source code * upcoming support for .NET deployment * cfimap * cfimage * CFC enhancements (will be released in beta 2) * full-text search uses Lucene and includes a spider (will be released in beta 2) * web service consumption is fully dynamic i.e. there is no stub caching issue * disk space and memory requirements are much lower Again, I am sure there are others, but that was just off the top of my head. One major thing I don't think many people have thought about is the release cycle of BlueDragon. It seems to me New Atlanta is able to release about two versions of BlueDragon for every version released of ColdFusion by Macromedia. IMHO, that means that all the things we as a community look for in a new release happens more often such as bug fixes and feature enhancements. Matt Liotta President CEO Montara Software, Inc. http://www.MontaraSoftware.com (888) 408-0900 x901 [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: BlueDragon (was Re: Another CFML app server...)
I was hoping to present a Flex or Central presentation at the next meeting on December 10. Of course I was one of the many not accepted to the beta and the NDA would no doubt be problematic. Instead I have chosed to present BlueDragon 6.1 (beta). We need to keep CFML alive and BlueDragon will go along way to helping us do this for people with little or no budget. I am lucky enough to be able to host with a MX 6.1 provider (AFP Webworks - www.afpwebworks.com). With more time I might even find the time to get Flash Remoting working :) Kudos to BlueDragon 6.1 (beta). Peter Tilbrook ColdFusion Applications Developer ColdGen Internet Solutions Manager, ACT and Region ColdFusion Users Group - http://www.actcfug.com 4/73 Tharwa Road Queanbeyan, NSW, 2620 AUSTRALIA Telephone: +61-2-6284-2727 Mobile: +61-0439-401-823 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Another CFML app server...
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Re: Another CFML app server...
They emailed me directly and we were going to talk. After some investigation, I found at least one major problem with it. All CF code has to be on its own line, one tag per line. I think that describes maybe 1 persons code in all the community. I'll interview them but they don't 'feel' like something terribly big. Morning, Has anyone seen this before: http://www.pcaonline.com/coral/ It's a new one on me... Tim. --- RAWNET LTD - Internet, New Media and ebusiness Gurus. Visit our new website at http://www.rawnet.com for more information about our company, or call us free anytime on 0800 294 24 24. --- Tim Blair Web Application Engineer, Rawnet Limited Direct Phone : +44 (0) 1344 393 441 Switchboard : +44 (0) 1344 393 040 --- This message may contain information which is legally privileged and/or confidential.If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorised disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this information is strictly prohibited. Such notification notwithstanding, any comments, opinions, information or conclusions expressed in this message are those of the originator, not of rawnet limited, unless otherwise explicitly and independently indicated by an authorised representative of rawnet limited. [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: Another CFML app server...
Michael Dinowitz wrote: They emailed me directly and we were going to talk. After some investigation, I found at least one major problem with it. All CF code has to be on its own line, one tag per line. I think that describes maybe 1 persons code in all the community. ReplaceNoCase(template, cf,#chr(13)##chr(10)#cf,All) I'll interview them but they don't 'feel' like something terribly big. Neither did NewAtlanta two years ago. Jochem -- Who needs virtual reality if you can just dream? - Loesje [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: Another CFML app server...
Good point. I like the idea.Lets see if they can do something with it. -Original Message- From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 7:32 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Another CFML app server... Michael Dinowitz wrote: They emailed me directly and we were going to talk. After some investigation, I found at least one major problem with it. All CF code has to be on its own line, one tag per line. I think that describes maybe 1 persons code in all the community. ReplaceNoCase(template, cf,#chr(13)##chr(10)#cf,All) I'll interview them but they don't 'feel' like something terribly big. Neither did NewAtlanta two years ago. Jochem -- Who needs virtual reality if you can just dream? - Loesje [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
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I think the fact that their engine requires each CF tag be on it's own line is indicative of a structure problem.Parsers have been around pretty much as long as computers have been and techniques for building parsers are pretty well established.Structural requirements like this are pretty rare. If they built coral without a proper parser, what else is done improperly? Scares me off quite a bit. And besides, what about code like this: tr bgcolor=cfif conditionredcfelsegreen/cfif It's horrible code that I wouldn't write in a new app but it exists in pretty much every app i'm maintaining. Sam -- Blog:http://www.rewindlife.com Chart: http://www.blinex.com/products/charting -- -Original Message- From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 7:32 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Another CFML app server... Michael Dinowitz wrote: They emailed me directly and we were going to talk. After some investigation, I found at least one major problem with it. All CF code has to be on its own line, one tag per line. I think that describes maybe 1 persons code in all the community. ReplaceNoCase(template, cf,#chr(13)##chr(10)#cf,All) I'll interview them but they don't 'feel' like something terribly big. Neither did NewAtlanta two years ago. Jochem [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
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large glaring missing thing cfcomponent ...tony tony weeg senior web applications architect navtrak, inc. www.navtrak.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] 410.548.2337 -Original Message- From: Tim Heald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 7:39 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Another CFML app server... Good point. I like the idea.Lets see if they can do something with it. -Original Message- From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 7:32 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Another CFML app server... Michael Dinowitz wrote: They emailed me directly and we were going to talk. After some investigation, I found at least one major problem with it. All CF code has to be on its own line, one tag per line. I think that describes maybe 1 persons code in all the community. ReplaceNoCase(template, cf,#chr(13)##chr(10)#cf,All) I'll interview them but they don't 'feel' like something terribly big. Neither did NewAtlanta two years ago. Jochem -- Who needs virtual reality if you can just dream? - Loesje [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
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Yeah, I'm in agreement here with the downsides, however, lets be encouraging.:-) -Original Message- From: Samuel Neff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 8:45 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Another CFML app server... I think the fact that their engine requires each CF tag be on it's own line is indicative of a structure problem.Parsers have been around pretty much as long as computers have been and techniques for building parsers are pretty well established.Structural requirements like this are pretty rare. If they built coral without a proper parser, what else is done improperly? Scares me off quite a bit. And besides, what about code like this: tr bgcolor=cfif conditionredcfelsegreen/cfif It's horrible code that I wouldn't write in a new app but it exists in pretty much every app i'm maintaining. Sam -- Blog:http://www.rewindlife.com http://www.rewindlife.com Chart: http://www.blinex.com/products/charting http://www.blinex.com/products/charting -- -Original Message- From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 7:32 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Another CFML app server... Michael Dinowitz wrote: They emailed me directly and we were going to talk. After some investigation, I found at least one major problem with it. All CF code has to be on its own line, one tag per line. I think that describes maybe 1 persons code in all the community. ReplaceNoCase(template, cf,#chr(13)##chr(10)#cf,All) I'll interview them but they don't 'feel' like something terribly big. Neither did NewAtlanta two years ago. Jochem _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
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-Original Message- From: Samuel Neff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 7:45 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Another CFML app server... I think the fact that their engine requires each CF tag be on it's own line is indicative of a structure problem.Parsers have been around pretty much as long as computers have been and techniques for building parsers are pretty well established.Structural requirements like this are pretty rare. If they built coral without a proper parser, what else is done improperly? Scares me off quite a bit. Ditto. While I don't think I'm nearly smart enough to build my own parser, finding multiple cf tags on one line is not any more difficult than finding a cf tag by itself on one line. Shoot, the only difference between cf cf and cf /cf is that the first one has a space between it and the second one has a newline between it. [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
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Yeah, true.And you can't beat the price.$150. Sam -Original Message- From: Tangorre, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 8:50 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Another CFML app server... Yeah, I'm in agreement here with the downsides, however, lets be encouraging.:-) -Original Message- From: Samuel Neff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 8:45 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Another CFML app server... I think the fact that their engine requires each CF tag be on it's own line is indicative of a structure problem.Parsers have been around pretty much as long as computers have been and techniques for building parsers are pretty well established.Structural requirements like this are pretty rare. If they built coral without a proper parser, what else is done improperly? Scares me off quite a bit. And besides, what about code like this: tr bgcolor=cfif conditionredcfelsegreen/cfif It's horrible code that I wouldn't write in a new app but it exists in pretty much every app i'm maintaining. Sam [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
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well, when your not the man, you are always trying to be the man.or the woman for that matter and try as they may, they will probably never be cfmx 6.1 or blackstone or whatever else themm team comes up with.its good for us, it will always make mm work towards staying ahead of their competition but, im not sure its something to worry about.companies that are educated and really are dedicated to investing in their web solution shouldn't really have a problem spending 1200 on cfmx server or whatever it costs now, that's chump change for the GREAT things we can do with it. its all about the sale and managing expectations.if cf developers were better at selling themselves and their creations, that cost of the server wouldn't even be a blink in the eye of their clients. ...tony tony weeg senior web applications architect navtrak, inc. www.navtrak.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] 410.548.2337 -Original Message- From: Samuel Neff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 8:45 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Another CFML app server... I think the fact that their engine requires each CF tag be on it's own line is indicative of a structure problem.Parsers have been around pretty much as long as computers have been and techniques for building parsers are pretty well established.Structural requirements like this are pretty rare. If they built coral without a proper parser, what else is done improperly? Scares me off quite a bit. And besides, what about code like this: tr bgcolor=cfif conditionredcfelsegreen/cfif It's horrible code that I wouldn't write in a new app but it exists in pretty much every app i'm maintaining. Sam -- Blog:http://www.rewindlife.com Chart: http://www.blinex.com/products/charting -- -Original Message- From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 7:32 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Another CFML app server... Michael Dinowitz wrote: They emailed me directly and we were going to talk. After some investigation, I found at least one major problem with it. All CF code has to be on its own line, one tag per line. I think that describes maybe 1 persons code in all the community. ReplaceNoCase(template, cf,#chr(13)##chr(10)#cf,All) I'll interview them but they don't 'feel' like something terribly big. Neither did NewAtlanta two years ago. Jochem [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
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I would like to try it, but none of the links work on the site ;) Tim Blair wrote: Morning, Has anyone seen this before: http://www.pcaonline.com/coral/ It's a new one on me... Tim. --- RAWNET LTD - Internet, New Media and ebusiness Gurus. Visit our new website at http://www.rawnet.com for more information about our company, or call us free anytime on 0800 294 24 24. --- Tim Blair Web Application Engineer, Rawnet Limited Direct Phone : +44 (0) 1344 393 441 Switchboard : +44 (0) 1344 393 040 --- This message may contain information which is legally privileged and/or confidential.If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorised disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this information is strictly prohibited. Such notification notwithstanding, any comments, opinions, information or conclusions expressed in this message are those of the originator, not of rawnet limited, unless otherwise explicitly and independently indicated by an authorised representative of rawnet limited. --- [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
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wow... the site must be down, i was able to view it all this am. Gabriel -Original Message- From: Clint Tredway [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 10:03 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Another CFML app server... I would like to try it, but none of the links work on the site ;) Tim Blair wrote: Morning, Has anyone seen this before: http://www.pcaonline.com/coral/ It's a new one on me... Tim. --- RAWNET LTD - Internet, New Media and ebusiness Gurus. Visit our new website at http://www.rawnet.com for more information about our company, or call us free anytime on 0800 294 24 24. --- Tim Blair Web Application Engineer, Rawnet Limited Direct Phone : +44 (0) 1344 393 441 Switchboard : +44 (0) 1344 393 040 --- This message may contain information which is legally privileged and/or confidential.If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorised disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this information is strictly prohibited. Such notification notwithstanding, any comments, opinions, information or conclusions expressed in this message are those of the originator, not of rawnet limited, unless otherwise explicitly and independently indicated by an authorised representative of rawnet limited. --- _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
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I think its been removed :) On 4/12/03 3:04 pm, Gabriel Robichaud [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: wow... the site must be down, i was able to view it all this am. Gabriel -Original Message- From: Clint Tredway [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 10:03 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Another CFML app server... I would like to try it, but none of the links work on the site ;) Tim Blair wrote: Morning, Has anyone seen this before: http://www.pcaonline.com/coral/ It's a new one on me... Tim. --- RAWNET LTD - Internet, New Media and ebusiness Gurus. Visit our new website at http://www.rawnet.com for more information about our company, or call us free anytime on 0800 294 24 24. --- Tim Blair Web Application Engineer, Rawnet Limited Direct Phone : +44 (0) 1344 393 441 Switchboard : +44 (0) 1344 393 040 --- This message may contain information which is legally privileged and/or confidential.If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorised disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this information is strictly prohibited. Such notification notwithstanding, any comments, opinions, information or conclusions expressed in this message are those of the originator, not of rawnet limited, unless otherwise explicitly and independently indicated by an authorised representative of rawnet limited. --- _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
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Chickens. -Original Message- From: Ryan Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 10:09 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Another CFML app server... I think its been removed :) On 4/12/03 3:04 pm, Gabriel Robichaud [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: wow... the site must be down, i was able to view it all this am. Gabriel -Original Message- From: Clint Tredway [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 10:03 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Another CFML app server... I would like to try it, but none of the links work on the site ;) Tim Blair wrote: Morning, Has anyone seen this before: http://www.pcaonline.com/coral/ It's a new one on me... Tim. --- RAWNET LTD - Internet, New Media and ebusiness Gurus. Visit our new website at http://www.rawnet.com for more information about our company, or call us free anytime on 0800 294 24 24. --- Tim Blair Web Application Engineer, Rawnet Limited Direct Phone : +44 (0) 1344 393 441 Switchboard : +44 (0) 1344 393 040 --- This message may contain information which is legally privileged and/or confidential.If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorised disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this information is strictly prohibited. Such notification notwithstanding, any comments, opinions, information or conclusions expressed in this message are those of the originator, not of rawnet limited, unless otherwise explicitly and independently indicated by an authorised representative of rawnet limited. --- _ _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
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I think its been removed :) Hmm, I just get a directory listing denied message now...We got informed of it's existence by someone sending us a message through the contact form on our company site: ---8 My name is Roger Samuel representing Coral Web Application Builder. It's a new product that allows you to run Cold Fusion, (CFML) and portions of (ASP), in a stand-alone application without Cold Fusion or ASP or a pre-installed Web Server, and without paying ANY run-time or server license fees. It's an exciting new product that's finally going to allow web developers to have what Windows developers have always had. The ability to deliver stand-alone applications royalty free to consumers or small business workgroups! ---8 Very strange that it just be removed after they've started telling people about it... Tim. --- RAWNET LTD - Internet, New Media and ebusiness Gurus. Visit our new website at http://www.rawnet.com for more information about our company, or call us free anytime on 0800 294 24 24. --- Tim Blair Web Application Engineer, Rawnet Limited Direct Phone : +44 (0) 1344 393 441 Switchboard : +44 (0) 1344 393 040 --- This message may contain information which is legally privileged and/or confidential.If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorised disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this information is strictly prohibited. Such notification notwithstanding, any comments, opinions, information or conclusions expressed in this message are those of the originator, not of rawnet limited, unless otherwise explicitly and independently indicated by an authorised representative of rawnet limited. --- [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
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They are back: CORAL News Thu, Dec, 4, 2003 - Wow! Over the past few days we've had hundreds of visitors to the Coral Web Site! Looks like many of you are looking for ways to deploy your CFML applications without paying for server licenses. Keep the comments coming, we want to hear from you! -Original Message- From: Tim Blair [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 10:16 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Another CFML app server... I think its been removed :) Hmm, I just get a directory listing denied message now...We got informed of it's existence by someone sending us a message through the contact form on our company site: ---8 My name is Roger Samuel representing Coral Web Application Builder. It's a new product that allows you to run Cold Fusion, (CFML) and portions of (ASP), in a stand-alone application without Cold Fusion or ASP or a pre-installed Web Server, and without paying ANY run-time or server license fees. It's an exciting new product that's finally going to allow web developers to have what Windows developers have always had. The ability to deliver stand-alone applications royalty free to consumers or small business workgroups! ---8 Very strange that it just be removed after they've started telling people about it... Tim. --- RAWNET LTD - Internet, New Media and ebusiness Gurus. Visit our new website at http://www.rawnet.com for more information about our company, or call us free anytime on 0800 294 24 24. --- Tim Blair Web Application Engineer, Rawnet Limited Direct Phone : +44 (0) 1344 393 441 Switchboard : +44 (0) 1344 393 040 --- This message may contain information which is legally privileged and/or confidential.If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorised disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this information is strictly prohibited. Such notification notwithstanding, any comments, opinions, information or conclusions expressed in this message are those of the originator, not of rawnet limited, unless otherwise explicitly and independently indicated by an authorised representative of rawnet limited. --- _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
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heh... no, it was just that we were all amused by the misspellings and broken links : ) - Original Message - From: Gabriel Robichaud To: CF-Talk Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 8:40 AM Subject: RE: Another CFML app server... They are back: CORAL News Thu, Dec, 4, 2003 - Wow! Over the past few days we've had hundreds of visitors to the Coral Web Site! Looks like many of you are looking for ways to deploy your CFML applications without paying for server licenses. Keep the comments coming, we want to hear from you! -Original Message- From: Tim Blair [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 10:16 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Another CFML app server... I think its been removed :) Hmm, I just get a directory listing denied message now...We got informed of it's existence by someone sending us a message through the contact form on our company site: ---8 My name is Roger Samuel representing Coral Web Application Builder. It's a new product that allows you to run Cold Fusion, (CFML) and portions of (ASP), in a stand-alone application without Cold Fusion or ASP or a pre-installed Web Server, and without paying ANY run-time or server license fees. It's an exciting new product that's finally going to allow web developers to have what Windows developers have always had. The ability to deliver stand-alone applications royalty free to consumers or small business workgroups! ---8 Very strange that it just be removed after they've started telling people about it... Tim. --- RAWNET LTD - Internet, New Media and ebusiness Gurus. Visit our new website at http://www.rawnet.com for more information about our company, or call us free anytime on 0800 294 24 24. --- Tim Blair Web Application Engineer, Rawnet Limited Direct Phone : +44 (0) 1344 393 441 Switchboard : +44 (0) 1344 393 040 --- This message may contain information which is legally privileged and/or confidential.If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorised disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this information is strictly prohibited. Such notification notwithstanding, any comments, opinions, information or conclusions expressed in this message are those of the originator, not of rawnet limited, unless otherwise explicitly and independently indicated by an authorised representative of rawnet limited. --- _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
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What doesn't work? I just bounced through it all and downloaded it. -Original Message- From: Gabriel Robichaud [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 10:11 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Another CFML app server... Chickens. -Original Message- From: Ryan Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 10:09 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Another CFML app server... I think its been removed :) On 4/12/03 3:04 pm, Gabriel Robichaud [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: wow... the site must be down, i was able to view it all this am. Gabriel -Original Message- From: Clint Tredway [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 10:03 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Another CFML app server... I would like to try it, but none of the links work on the site ;) Tim Blair wrote: Morning, Has anyone seen this before: http://www.pcaonline.com/coral/ It's a new one on me... Tim. --- RAWNET LTD - Internet, New Media and ebusiness Gurus. Visit our new website at http://www.rawnet.com for more information about our company, or call us free anytime on 0800 294 24 24. --- Tim Blair Web Application Engineer, Rawnet Limited Direct Phone : +44 (0) 1344 393 441 Switchboard : +44 (0) 1344 393 040 --- This message may contain information which is legally privileged and/or confidential.If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorised disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this information is strictly prohibited. Such notification notwithstanding, any comments, opinions, information or conclusions expressed in this message are those of the originator, not of rawnet limited, unless otherwise explicitly and independently indicated by an authorised representative of rawnet limited. --- _ _ _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
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A the links seemed to work for me as well. I kinda like the idea of this... From: Greg Luce [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Another CFML app server... Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:36:44 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from houseoffusion.com ([64.118.64.245]) by mc5-f39.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Thu, 4 Dec 2003 08:41:33 -0800 Received: from LOCALHOST by LOCALHOSTwith ESMTP id 9EF0D689E3AD1E40A2C3F72EDF6FB058Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:39:33 -0500 X-Message-Info: JGTYoYF78jGZZGSE3Ub5y1wF09VcJMdd Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: bulk References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Dec 2003 16:41:41.0752 (UTC) FILETIME=[7ED08F80:01C3BA85] What doesn't work? I just bounced through it all and downloaded it. -Original Message- From: Gabriel Robichaud [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 10:11 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Another CFML app server... Chickens. -Original Message- From: Ryan Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 10:09 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Another CFML app server... I think its been removed :) On 4/12/03 3:04 pm, Gabriel Robichaud [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: wow... the site must be down, i was able to view it all this am. Gabriel -Original Message- From: Clint Tredway [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 10:03 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Another CFML app server... I would like to try it, but none of the links work on the site ;) Tim Blair wrote: Morning, Has anyone seen this before: http://www.pcaonline.com/coral/ It's a new one on me... Tim. --- RAWNET LTD - Internet, New Media and ebusiness Gurus. Visit our new website at http://www.rawnet.com for more information about our company, or call us free anytime on 0800 294 24 24. --- Tim Blair Web Application Engineer, Rawnet Limited Direct Phone : +44 (0) 1344 393 441 Switchboard : +44 (0) 1344 393 040 --- This message may contain information which is legally privileged and/or confidential.If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorised disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this information is strictly prohibited. Such notification notwithstanding, any comments, opinions, information or conclusions expressed in this message are those of the originator, not of rawnet limited, unless otherwise explicitly and independently indicated by an authorised representative of rawnet limited. --- _ _ _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
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Dear FuseBox Users, No one uses cfcase/cfswitch. So It's not supported in Coral. Seriously though. they only support like 25 tags! You'd be better off just learning the ASP equivalents and calling it a day! Adam Wayne Lehman Web Systems Developer Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health Distance Education Division -Original Message- From: Dan Farmer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 12:34 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Another CFML app server... A the links seemed to work for me as well. I kinda like the idea of this... From: Greg Luce [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Another CFML app server... Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:36:44 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from houseoffusion.com ([64.118.64.245]) by mc5-f39.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Thu, 4 Dec 2003 08:41:33 -0800 Received: from LOCALHOST by LOCALHOSTwith ESMTP id 9EF0D689E3AD1E40A2C3F72EDF6FB058Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:39:33 -0500 X-Message-Info: JGTYoYF78jGZZGSE3Ub5y1wF09VcJMdd Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: bulk References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Dec 2003 16:41:41.0752 (UTC) FILETIME=[7ED08F80:01C3BA85] What doesn't work? I just bounced through it all and downloaded it. -Original Message- From: Gabriel Robichaud [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 10:11 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Another CFML app server... Chickens. -Original Message- From: Ryan Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 10:09 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Another CFML app server... I think its been removed :) On 4/12/03 3:04 pm, Gabriel Robichaud [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: wow... the site must be down, i was able to view it all this am. Gabriel -Original Message- From: Clint Tredway [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 10:03 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Another CFML app server... I would like to try it, but none of the links work on the site ;) Tim Blair wrote: Morning, Has anyone seen this before: http://www.pcaonline.com/coral/ It's a new one on me... Tim. --- RAWNET LTD - Internet, New Media and ebusiness Gurus. Visit our new website at http://www.rawnet.com for more information about our company, or call us free anytime on 0800 294 24 24. --- Tim Blair Web Application Engineer, Rawnet Limited Direct Phone : +44 (0) 1344 393 441 Switchboard : +44 (0) 1344 393 040 --- This message may contain information which is legally privileged and/or confidential.If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorised disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this information is strictly prohibited. Such notification notwithstanding, any comments, opinions, information or conclusions expressed in this message are those of the originator, not of rawnet limited, unless otherwise explicitly and independently indicated by an authorised representative of rawnet limited. --- _ _ _ _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
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Adam Wayne Lehman wrote: Seriously though. they only support like 25 tags! You'd be better off just learning the ASP equivalents and calling it a day! I noticed that they had checkboxes next to all the tags in the tag support listing... but I also noticed that they simply choose to NOT mention the tags they don't support, like CFFUNCTION, CFARGUMENT, CFOBJECT, etc. Looks to me like BlueDragon Server is a better free option for CFML. Heck, I'm probably gonna go with BlueDragon 6.1 JX when it is released rather than upgrading to CF 6.1 from 5.0 on my box... - Rick [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: Another CFML app server...
At 03:24 PM 12/4/03 -0500, Adam Wayne Lehman wrote: Seriously though. they only support like 25 tags! You'd be better off just learning the ASP equivalents and calling it a day! 24 by my count (I'm ignoring cflock since it isn't needed.) cfabort cfapplication cfbreak cfcookie cfdirectory cfexecute cffile cfhttp cfif cfelse cfelseif cfinclude cflocation cflock not required in Coral cfloop cfmail cfoutput cfparam cfpop cfprocessingdirective cfquery cfscript cfset cftransaction cftry/cfcatch While it could be better, it is a start - we should be encouraging this sort of thing, I think. T Adam Wayne Lehman Web Systems Developer Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health Distance Education Division -Original Message- From: Dan Farmer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 12:34 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Another CFML app server... A the links seemed to work for me as well. I kinda like the idea of this... From: Greg Luce [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Another CFML app server... Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:36:44 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from houseoffusion.com ([64.118.64.245]) by mc5-f39.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Thu, 4 Dec 2003 08:41:33 -0800 Received: from LOCALHOST by LOCALHOSTwith ESMTP id 9EF0D689E3AD1E40A2C3F72EDF6FB058Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:39:33 -0500 X-Message-Info: JGTYoYF78jGZZGSE3Ub5y1wF09VcJMdd Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: bulk References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Dec 2003 16:41:41.0752 (UTC) FILETIME=[7ED08F80:01C3BA85] What doesn't work? I just bounced through it all and downloaded it. -Original Message- From: Gabriel Robichaud [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 10:11 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Another CFML app server... Chickens. -Original Message- From: Ryan Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 10:09 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Another CFML app server... I think its been removed :) On 4/12/03 3:04 pm, Gabriel Robichaud [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: wow... the site must be down, i was able to view it all this am. Gabriel -Original Message- From: Clint Tredway [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 10:03 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Another CFML app server... I would like to try it, but none of the links work on the site ;) Tim Blair wrote: Morning, Has anyone seen this before: http://www.pcaonline.com/coral/ It's a new one on me... Tim. --- RAWNET LTD - Internet, New Media and ebusiness Gurus. Visit our new website at http://www.rawnet.com for more information about our company, or call us free anytime on 0800 294 24 24. --- Tim Blair Web Application Engineer, Rawnet Limited Direct Phone : +44 (0) 1344 393 441 Switchboard : +44 (0) 1344 393 040 --- This message may contain information which is legally privileged and/or confidential.If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorised disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this information is strictly prohibited. Such notification notwithstanding, any comments, opinions, information or conclusions expressed in this message are those of the originator, not of rawnet limited, unless otherwise explicitly and independently indicated by an authorised representative of rawnet limited. --- _ _ _ _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: Another CFML app server...
I agree! The kind of work that I do fits in well with their idea.Its enough work selling your product without having to up the price by a few thousand dollars just for server liscences. Gabriel -Original Message- From: Thane Sherrington [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 3:43 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Another CFML app server... At 03:24 PM 12/4/03 -0500, Adam Wayne Lehman wrote: Seriously though. they only support like 25 tags! You'd be better off just learning the ASP equivalents and calling it a day! 24 by my count (I'm ignoring cflock since it isn't needed.) cfabort cfapplication cfbreak cfcookie cfdirectory cfexecute cffile cfhttp cfif cfelse cfelseif cfinclude cflocation cflock not required in Coral cfloop cfmail cfoutput cfparam cfpop cfprocessingdirective cfquery cfscript cfset cftransaction cftry/cfcatch While it could be better, it is a start - we should be encouraging this sort of thing, I think. T Adam Wayne Lehman Web Systems Developer Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health Distance Education Division -Original Message- From: Dan Farmer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 12:34 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Another CFML app server... A the links seemed to work for me as well. I kinda like the idea of this... From: Greg Luce [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Another CFML app server... Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:36:44 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from houseoffusion.com ([64.118.64.245]) by mc5-f39.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Thu, 4 Dec 2003 08:41:33 -0800 Received: from LOCALHOST by LOCALHOSTwith ESMTP id 9EF0D689E3AD1E40A2C3F72EDF6FB058Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:39:33 -0500 X-Message-Info: JGTYoYF78jGZZGSE3Ub5y1wF09VcJMdd Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: bulk References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Dec 2003 16:41:41.0752 (UTC) FILETIME=[7ED08F80:01C3BA85] What doesn't work? I just bounced through it all and downloaded it. -Original Message- From: Gabriel Robichaud [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 10:11 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Another CFML app server... Chickens. -Original Message- From: Ryan Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 10:09 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Another CFML app server... I think its been removed :) On 4/12/03 3:04 pm, Gabriel Robichaud [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: wow... the site must be down, i was able to view it all this am. Gabriel -Original Message- From: Clint Tredway [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 10:03 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Another CFML app server... I would like to try it, but none of the links work on the site ;) Tim Blair wrote: Morning, Has anyone seen this before: http://www.pcaonline.com/coral/ It's a new one on me... Tim. --- RAWNET LTD - Internet, New Media and ebusiness Gurus. Visit our new website at http://www.rawnet.com for more information about our company, or call us free anytime on 0800 294 24 24. --- Tim Blair Web Application Engineer, Rawnet Limited Direct Phone : +44 (0) 1344 393 441 Switchboard : +44 (0) 1344 393 040 --- This message may contain information which is legally privileged and/or confidential.If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorised disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this information is strictly prohibited. Such notification notwithstanding, any comments, opinions, information or conclusions expressed in this message are those of the originator, not of rawnet limited, unless otherwise explicitly and independently indicated by an authorised representative of rawnet limited. --- _ _ _ _ _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: Another CFML app server...
It seems to me that there are a lot of better alternativesphp, asp.net, python, perl, etc.I guess I'm just trying to apply the old rule the right tool for the right job /slips on flameproof underwear marlon Thane Sherrington wrote: At 03:24 PM 12/4/03 -0500, Adam Wayne Lehman wrote: Seriously though. they only support like 25 tags! You'd be better off just learning the ASP equivalents and calling it a day! 24 by my count (I'm ignoring cflock since it isn't needed.) cfabort cfapplication cfbreak cfcookie cfdirectory cfexecute cffile cfhttp cfif cfelse cfelseif cfinclude cflocation cflock not required in Coral cfloop cfmail cfoutput cfparam cfpop cfprocessingdirective cfquery cfscript cfset cftransaction cftry/cfcatch While it could be better, it is a start - we should be encouraging this sort of thing, I think. T Adam Wayne Lehman Web Systems Developer Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health Distance Education Division -Original Message- From: Dan Farmer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 12:34 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Another CFML app server... A the links seemed to work for me as well. I kinda like the idea of this... From: Greg Luce [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Another CFML app server... Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:36:44 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from houseoffusion.com ([64.118.64.245]) by mc5-f39.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Thu, 4 Dec 2003 08:41:33 -0800 Received: from LOCALHOST by LOCALHOSTwith ESMTP id 9EF0D689E3AD1E40A2C3F72EDF6FB058Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:39:33 -0500 X-Message-Info: JGTYoYF78jGZZGSE3Ub5y1wF09VcJMdd Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: bulk References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Dec 2003 16:41:41.0752 (UTC) FILETIME=[7ED08F80:01C3BA85] What doesn't work? I just bounced through it all and downloaded it. -Original Message- From: Gabriel Robichaud [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 10:11 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Another CFML app server... Chickens. -Original Message- From: Ryan Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 10:09 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Another CFML app server... I think its been removed :) On 4/12/03 3:04 pm, Gabriel Robichaud [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: wow... the site must be down, i was able to view it all this am. Gabriel -Original Message- From: Clint Tredway [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 10:03 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Another CFML app server... I would like to try it, but none of the links work on the site ;) Tim Blair wrote: Morning, Has anyone seen this before: http://www.pcaonline.com/coral/ It's a new one on me... Tim. --- RAWNET LTD - Internet, New Media and ebusiness Gurus. Visit our new website at http://www.rawnet.com for more information about our company, or call us free anytime on 0800 294 24 24. --- Tim Blair Web Application Engineer, Rawnet Limited Direct Phone : +44 (0) 1344 393 441 Switchboard : +44 (0) 1344 393 040 --- This message may contain information which is legally privileged and/or confidential.If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorised disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this information is strictly prohibited. Such notification notwithstanding, any comments, opinions, information or conclusions expressed in this message are those of the originator, not of rawnet limited, unless otherwise explicitly and independently indicated by an authorised representative of rawnet limited. --- _ _ _ _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: Another CFML app server...
Sorry. This whole thing seems a little backwoods to me. I'll admit I'm superficial about this sort of thing, but I'm not about to use a webserver from a company who has such a crappy site. The information about the server so far is misleading at best. Not a single person on their staff is here to comment to the community? Or bother to make an official announcement? Adam Wayne Lehman Web Systems Developer Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health Distance Education Division -Original Message- From: Thane Sherrington [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 3:43 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Another CFML app server... At 03:24 PM 12/4/03 -0500, Adam Wayne Lehman wrote: Seriously though. they only support like 25 tags! You'd be better off just learning the ASP equivalents and calling it a day! 24 by my count (I'm ignoring cflock since it isn't needed.) cfabort cfapplication cfbreak cfcookie cfdirectory cfexecute cffile cfhttp cfif cfelse cfelseif cfinclude cflocation cflock not required in Coral cfloop cfmail cfoutput cfparam cfpop cfprocessingdirective cfquery cfscript cfset cftransaction cftry/cfcatch While it could be better, it is a start - we should be encouraging this sort of thing, I think. T Adam Wayne Lehman Web Systems Developer Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health Distance Education Division -Original Message- From: Dan Farmer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 12:34 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Another CFML app server... A the links seemed to work for me as well. I kinda like the idea of this... From: Greg Luce [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Another CFML app server... Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:36:44 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from houseoffusion.com ([64.118.64.245]) by mc5-f39.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Thu, 4 Dec 2003 08:41:33 -0800 Received: from LOCALHOST by LOCALHOSTwith ESMTP id 9EF0D689E3AD1E40A2C3F72EDF6FB058Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:39:33 -0500 X-Message-Info: JGTYoYF78jGZZGSE3Ub5y1wF09VcJMdd Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: bulk References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Dec 2003 16:41:41.0752 (UTC) FILETIME=[7ED08F80:01C3BA85] What doesn't work? I just bounced through it all and downloaded it. -Original Message- From: Gabriel Robichaud [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 10:11 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Another CFML app server... Chickens. -Original Message- From: Ryan Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 10:09 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Another CFML app server... I think its been removed :) On 4/12/03 3:04 pm, Gabriel Robichaud [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: wow... the site must be down, i was able to view it all this am. Gabriel -Original Message- From: Clint Tredway [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 10:03 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Another CFML app server... I would like to try it, but none of the links work on the site ;) Tim Blair wrote: Morning, Has anyone seen this before: http://www.pcaonline.com/coral/ It's a new one on me... Tim. --- RAWNET LTD - Internet, New Media and ebusiness Gurus. Visit our new website at http://www.rawnet.com for more information about our company, or call us free anytime on 0800 294 24 24. --- Tim Blair Web Application Engineer, Rawnet Limited Direct Phone : +44 (0) 1344 393 441 Switchboard : +44 (0) 1344 393 040 --- This message may contain information which is legally privileged and/or confidential.If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorised disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this information is strictly prohibited. Such notification notwithstanding, any comments, opinions, information or conclusions expressed in this message are those of the originator, not of rawnet limited, unless otherwise explicitly and independently indicated by an authorised representative of rawnet limited. --- _ _ _ _ _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: Another CFML app server...
Perl?And thats supposed tomake my life easier?might as well step into a time machine back into 1992.The reason i Like CFML as opposed to the others, is ease of use and coding simplicity. I would rather do a cfquery than try to open, manage, query and close my dbconnections.. etc etc etc etc etc. I wont even begin complaining about ASP and and micro$oft empire... php... well thats just as cryptic as perl IMHO. its all about KISS. (keep it simple stupid) Gabriel -Original Message- From: Marlon Moyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 3:50 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Another CFML app server... It seems to me that there are a lot of better alternativesphp, asp.net, python, perl, etc.I guess I'm just trying to apply the old rule the right tool for the right job /slips on flameproof underwear marlon Thane Sherrington wrote: At 03:24 PM 12/4/03 -0500, Adam Wayne Lehman wrote: Seriously though. they only support like 25 tags! You'd be better off just learning the ASP equivalents and calling it a day! 24 by my count (I'm ignoring cflock since it isn't needed.) cfabort cfapplication cfbreak cfcookie cfdirectory cfexecute cffile cfhttp cfif cfelse cfelseif cfinclude cflocation cflock not required in Coral cfloop cfmail cfoutput cfparam cfpop cfprocessingdirective cfquery cfscript cfset cftransaction cftry/cfcatch While it could be better, it is a start - we should be encouraging this sort of thing, I think. T Adam Wayne Lehman Web Systems Developer Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health Distance Education Division -Original Message- From: Dan Farmer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 12:34 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Another CFML app server... A the links seemed to work for me as well. I kinda like the idea of this... From: Greg Luce [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Another CFML app server... Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:36:44 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from houseoffusion.com ([64.118.64.245]) by mc5-f39.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Thu, 4 Dec 2003 08:41:33 -0800 Received: from LOCALHOST by LOCALHOSTwith ESMTP id 9EF0D689E3AD1E40A2C3F72EDF6FB058Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:39:33 -0500 X-Message-Info: JGTYoYF78jGZZGSE3Ub5y1wF09VcJMdd Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: bulk References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Dec 2003 16:41:41.0752 (UTC) FILETIME=[7ED08F80:01C3BA85] What doesn't work? I just bounced through it all and downloaded it. -Original Message- From: Gabriel Robichaud [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 10:11 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Another CFML app server... Chickens. -Original Message- From: Ryan Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 10:09 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Another CFML app server... I think its been removed :) On 4/12/03 3:04 pm, Gabriel Robichaud [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: wow... the site must be down, i was able to view it all this am. Gabriel -Original Message- From: Clint Tredway [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 10:03 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Another CFML app server... I would like to try it, but none of the links work on the site ;) Tim Blair wrote: Morning, Has anyone seen this before: http://www.pcaonline.com/coral/ It's a new one on me... Tim. --- RAWNET LTD - Internet, New Media and ebusiness Gurus. Visit our new website at http://www.rawnet.com for more information about our company, or call us free anytime on 0800 294 24 24. --- Tim Blair Web Application Engineer, Rawnet Limited Direct Phone : +44 (0) 1344 393 441 Switchboard : +44 (0) 1344 393 040 --- This message may contain information which is legally privileged and/or confidential.If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorised disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this information is strictly prohibited. Such notification notwithstanding, any comments, opinions, information or conclusions expressed in this message are those of the originator, not of rawnet limited, unless otherwise explicitly and independently indicated by an authorised representative of rawnet limited. --- _ _ _ _ _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription
Re: Another CFML app server...
Adam Wayne Lehman wrote: Sorry. This whole thing seems a little backwoods to me. I am pretty much connected everywhere nowadays, so the whole concept of a desktop server for localhost seems a bit weird to me. The ubiquitous network is really around the corner from my perspective. It is pretty obvious they have a long way to go before they are anywhere near feature completeness and that they are aiming for a niche market. But if they think they can make a buck out of it, good luck to them filling that niche. All the better for those developers amongst us who do have a use for this type of tool. And what is good for those developers, is good for the CF community at large. Jochem -- Who needs virtual reality if you can just dream? - Loesje [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: Another CFML app server...
Oh yee of little faith. 1977: Apple Computer moves from Jobs' garage to an office in Cupertino talk about backwoods :) [Gabriel Robichaud] -Original Message- From: Adam Wayne Lehman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 4:02 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Another CFML app server... Sorry. This whole thing seems a little backwoods to me. I'll admit I'm superficial about this sort of thing, but I'm not about to use a webserver from a company who has such a crappy site. The information about the server so far is misleading at best. Not a single person on their staff is here to comment to the community? Or bother to make an official announcement? Adam Wayne Lehman Web Systems Developer Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health Distance Education Division -Original Message- From: Thane Sherrington [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 3:43 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Another CFML app server... At 03:24 PM 12/4/03 -0500, Adam Wayne Lehman wrote: Seriously though. they only support like 25 tags! You'd be better off just learning the ASP equivalents and calling it a day! 24 by my count (I'm ignoring cflock since it isn't needed.) cfabort cfapplication cfbreak cfcookie cfdirectory cfexecute cffile cfhttp cfif cfelse cfelseif cfinclude cflocation cflock not required in Coral cfloop cfmail cfoutput cfparam cfpop cfprocessingdirective cfquery cfscript cfset cftransaction cftry/cfcatch While it could be better, it is a start - we should be encouraging this sort of thing, I think. T Adam Wayne Lehman Web Systems Developer Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health Distance Education Division -Original Message- From: Dan Farmer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 12:34 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Another CFML app server... A the links seemed to work for me as well. I kinda like the idea of this... From: Greg Luce [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Another CFML app server... Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:36:44 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from houseoffusion.com ([64.118.64.245]) by mc5-f39.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Thu, 4 Dec 2003 08:41:33 -0800 Received: from LOCALHOST by LOCALHOSTwith ESMTP id 9EF0D689E3AD1E40A2C3F72EDF6FB058Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:39:33 -0500 X-Message-Info: JGTYoYF78jGZZGSE3Ub5y1wF09VcJMdd Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: bulk References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Dec 2003 16:41:41.0752 (UTC) FILETIME=[7ED08F80:01C3BA85] What doesn't work? I just bounced through it all and downloaded it. -Original Message- From: Gabriel Robichaud [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 10:11 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Another CFML app server... Chickens. -Original Message- From: Ryan Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 10:09 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Another CFML app server... I think its been removed :) On 4/12/03 3:04 pm, Gabriel Robichaud [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: wow... the site must be down, i was able to view it all this am. Gabriel -Original Message- From: Clint Tredway [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 10:03 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Another CFML app server... I would like to try it, but none of the links work on the site ;) Tim Blair wrote: Morning, Has anyone seen this before: http://www.pcaonline.com/coral/ It's a new one on me... Tim. --- RAWNET LTD - Internet, New Media and ebusiness Gurus. Visit our new website at http://www.rawnet.com for more information about our company, or call us free anytime on 0800 294 24 24. --- Tim Blair Web Application Engineer, Rawnet Limited Direct Phone : +44 (0) 1344 393 441 Switchboard : +44 (0) 1344 393 040 --- This message may contain information which is legally privileged and/or confidential.If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorised disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this information is strictly prohibited. Such notification notwithstanding, any comments, opinions, information or conclusions expressed in this message are those of the originator, not of rawnet limited, unless otherwise explicitly and independently indicated by an authorised representative of rawnet limited. --- _ _ _ _ _ _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: Another CFML app server...
I agree. As I see it Coral is means to creating a desktop app by either reusing code from a web site (which it can't do completely) or leveraging CF devs who don't know any other language. Either way, I think it's the wrong user experience. Web apps are a compromise for the user and developer already because of the limitations of the web. Why put a compromised app on the desktop where you could have leveraged the full capabilities of the platform? devil's advocate Because the client won't spend the money/time on creating a desktop version of what they've already got. /devil's advocate Basically I see it offering an option to accomodate a bad situation. It may not be a good option, but it's one more than before. -Kevin - Original Message - From: Marlon Moyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 2:50 PM Subject: Re: Another CFML app server... It seems to me that there are a lot of better alternativesphp, asp.net, python, perl, etc.I guess I'm just trying to apply the old rule the right tool for the right job /slips on flameproof underwear marlon Thane Sherrington wrote: At 03:24 PM 12/4/03 -0500, Adam Wayne Lehman wrote: Seriously though. they only support like 25 tags! You'd be better off just learning the ASP equivalents and calling it a day! 24 by my count (I'm ignoring cflock since it isn't needed.) cfabort cfapplication cfbreak cfcookie cfdirectory cfexecute cffile cfhttp cfif cfelse cfelseif cfinclude cflocation cflock not required in Coral cfloop cfmail cfoutput cfparam cfpop cfprocessingdirective cfquery cfscript cfset cftransaction cftry/cfcatch While it could be better, it is a start - we should be encouraging this sort of thing, I think. T Adam Wayne Lehman Web Systems Developer Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health Distance Education Division -Original Message- From: Dan Farmer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 12:34 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Another CFML app server... A the links seemed to work for me as well. I kinda like the idea of this... From: Greg Luce [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Another CFML app server... Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:36:44 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from houseoffusion.com ([64.118.64.245]) by mc5-f39.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Thu, 4 Dec 2003 08:41:33 -0800 Received: from LOCALHOST by LOCALHOSTwith ESMTP id 9EF0D689E3AD1E40A2C3F72EDF6FB058Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:39:33 -0500 X-Message-Info: JGTYoYF78jGZZGSE3Ub5y1wF09VcJMdd Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: bulk References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Dec 2003 16:41:41.0752 (UTC) FILETIME=[7ED08F80:01C3BA85] What doesn't work? I just bounced through it all and downloaded it. -Original Message- From: Gabriel Robichaud [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 10:11 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Another CFML app server... Chickens. -Original Message- From: Ryan Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 10:09 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Another CFML app server... I think its been removed :) On 4/12/03 3:04 pm, Gabriel Robichaud [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: wow... the site must be down, i was able to view it all this am. Gabriel -Original Message- From: Clint Tredway [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 10:03 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Another CFML app server... I would like to try it, but none of the links work on the site ;) Tim Blair wrote: Morning, Has anyone seen this before: http://www.pcaonline.com/coral/ It's a new one on me... Tim. --- RAWNET LTD - Internet, New Media and ebusiness Gurus. Visit our new website at http://www.rawnet.com for more information about our company, or call us free anytime on 0800 294 24 24. --- Tim Blair Web Application Engineer, Rawnet Limited Direct Phone : +44 (0) 1344 393 441 Switchboard : +44 (0) 1344 393 040 --- This message may contain information which is legally privileged and/or confidential.If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorised disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this information is strictly prohibited. Such notification notwithstanding, any comments, opinions
RE: Another CFML app server...
Well, saying cflock isn't needed just goes to show you that they don't understand what cflock does.It's not just there to protect against crashes, it's there to handle multi-threaded race coditions.Maybe their product isn't multi-threaded, but if it is, then cflock is needed.CFMX doesn't need cflock to prevent crashes but it is still needed for race conditions. http://www.macromedia.com/support/coldfusion/ts/documents/tn18235.htm So, cflock is important.. Sam -- Blog:http://www.rewindlife.com Chart: http://www.blinex.com/products/charting -- -Original Message- From: Thane Sherrington [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 3:43 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Another CFML app server... At 03:24 PM 12/4/03 -0500, Adam Wayne Lehman wrote: Seriously though. they only support like 25 tags! You'd be better off just learning the ASP equivalents and calling it a day! 24 by my count (I'm ignoring cflock since it isn't needed.) [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: Another CFML app server...
Maybe I've just sensitive to this because I'm doing something now. All I wanted to do was automate the creation of relative Playlists for my WMA library (by default Windows Media player saves playlists with absolute paths).So now (in my off hours) I'm learning enough Windows Scripting Host stuff to be able to do that.It's not super hard, but it would be much nicer to be able to build such a dealy-o in CFML. That being said I'm not sure that this is the right implementation for that.I love the idea of using CFML as the scripting glue for desktop automation chores but the concept of a full (even if hidden) webserver, application engine, etc does seem a bit heavy. I guess what I'm saying is that I wasn't seeing this tool as specifically an application development tool, but rather an automation scripting tool.CFML and CFOBJECT could do most, if not all, of what WSH does now - if it ran that way. Jim Davis _ From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 4:22 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Another CFML app server... I agree. As I see it Coral is means to creating a desktop app by either reusing code from a web site (which it can't do completely) or leveraging CF devs who don't know any other language. Either way, I think it's the wrong user experience. Web apps are a compromise for the user and developer already because of the limitations of the web. Why put a compromised app on the desktop where you could have leveraged the full capabilities of the platform? devil's advocate Because the client won't spend the money/time on creating a desktop version of what they've already got. /devil's advocate Basically I see it offering an option to accomodate a bad situation. It may not be a good option, but it's one more than before. -Kevin - Original Message - From: Marlon Moyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 2:50 PM Subject: Re: Another CFML app server... It seems to me that there are a lot of better alternativesphp, asp.net, python, perl, etc.I guess I'm just trying to apply the old rule the right tool for the right job /slips on flameproof underwear marlon Thane Sherrington wrote: At 03:24 PM 12/4/03 -0500, Adam Wayne Lehman wrote: Seriously though. they only support like 25 tags! You'd be better off just learning the ASP equivalents and calling it a day! 24 by my count (I'm ignoring cflock since it isn't needed.) cfabort cfapplication cfbreak cfcookie cfdirectory cfexecute cffile cfhttp cfif cfelse cfelseif cfinclude cflocation cflock not required in Coral cfloop cfmail cfoutput cfparam cfpop cfprocessingdirective cfquery cfscript cfset cftransaction cftry/cfcatch While it could be better, it is a start - we should be encouraging this sort of thing, I think. T Adam Wayne Lehman Web Systems Developer Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health Distance Education Division -Original Message- From: Dan Farmer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 12:34 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Another CFML app server... A the links seemed to work for me as well. I kinda like the idea of this... From: Greg Luce [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Another CFML app server... Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:36:44 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from houseoffusion.com ([64.118.64.245]) by mc5-f39.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Thu, 4 Dec 2003 08:41:33 -0800 Received: from LOCALHOST by LOCALHOSTwith ESMTP id 9EF0D689E3AD1E40A2C3F72EDF6FB058Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:39:33 -0500 X-Message-Info: JGTYoYF78jGZZGSE3Ub5y1wF09VcJMdd Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: bulk References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Dec 2003 16:41:41.0752 (UTC) FILETIME=[7ED08F80:01C3BA85] What doesn't work? I just bounced through it all and downloaded it. -Original Message- From: Gabriel Robichaud [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 10:11 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Another CFML app server... Chickens. -Original Message- From: Ryan Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 10:09 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Another CFML app server... I think its been removed :) On 4/12/03 3:04 pm, Gabriel Robichaud [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: wow... the site must be down, i was able to view it all this am. Gabriel -Original Message- From: Clint Tredway [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 10:03 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Another CFML app server... I would like to try it, but none of the links work on the site
