CF & Flash (crazy idea?)

2003-07-08 Thread cottrellc
Hello all! I am having issues with my email so I am posting this from the archives.

Question:
Can I have multiple movie clips in one big umbrella movie calling different cfcs?

To get an idea of what I am talking about:

http://www.childrensdayton.org/CandaceTest/intraMovie.zip


I am trying to get the census data on the apps movie clip to populate. 
If you use the net connection debugger, I am seeing that the census.cfc gets called, 
but the method doesn't get called.

Is this because when the movie loads I am calling the articles.cfc in the load_mc? 

I tested the cfc on both a generic cf page as well as on the load_mc and it worked 
both times.

It's just that when I try to do this from the apps_frame mc it brings back nada.

Question 2.

Is there a way to get the combo box to autoresize to fit the width of the longest 
string?



I am at a loss here, so any help is greatly appreciated.





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Re: CF & Flash (crazy idea?)

2003-07-03 Thread Christian Cantrell
I'm a little late jumping in here, but I think this is an interesting 
idea, so I'll put in my two cents.  I actually built something similar 
to this as a prototype for the company I used to work for, although I 
built it all with DHTML and JSP.  I think the principle still applies, 
however.

The prototype I built was a frameset with two frames: in one frame, the 
user selected an HTML form element (text field, radio button, select 
box, etc) and specified its properties (length, options, name, etc).  
After clicking the "Add" button, the element would appear in the 
"whiteboard" frame where it could be dragged into place along with all 
the other elements that had previously been added.  When the author was 
happy with his layout, he would click save, and the X and Y coordinates 
of all the elements would be saved so that the look could be reproduced 
with dynamically generated and absolutely positioned DIV tags and form 
elements.

So I know for a fact it can be done with DHTML (and this was probably 
over two years ago, when DHTML support wasn't as good as it is now), 
and I suspect you could do something similar with Flash.  In a Flash 
UI, one would simply drag movie clips around the stage, and when the 
save button was clicked, the element type, properties, and X and Y 
coordinates could be stored on the server (via Flash Remoting, XML 
Sockets, or even loadVariables).  You could then use ColdFusion to 
dynamically build the CSS necessary to render something probably 
closely approximating the UI that was build in Flash.

In theory, anyway.  Hope this helps.

Christian

On Thursday, July 3, 2003, at 10:58 AM, Michael T. Tangorre wrote:

> Hi everyone.
>
> I have an idea and need to know if it is within the capabilities of 
> Flash and CF. What I would like to do is provide an interface for 
> users to come to, where they can create forms and position the form 
> elements and element labels wherever they wish (within a maximum 
> area). How I envision this working would be to provide within the 
> interface an area that contained a list of possible form elements to 
> choose from (text input, text area, radio, check). When a user dragged 
> one of these into the "form area" they could give it a label and fill 
> in the attributes of that element as well as position the element and 
> its label wherever they wanted (within the bounds of course). Now for 
> the crazy part...
>
> Would it be possible to take that Flash movie that the user interacted 
> with to create the initial form and process it into an HTML form where 
> the layout was almost identical if not exactly identical to how it was 
> created via the Flash interface (from a positioning and layout 
> standpoint)? I was thinking maybe there are some functions in flash to 
> get element coordinates, etc...
>
> The idea would be that this form could be used within an HTML email or 
> website to gather user feedback. The second part would be to build 
> some kind of container on the backend whereas those results/responses 
> could be stored.
>
> Obviously this is a complex idea, one in which is beyond the scope of 
> my abilities at this time.
>
> Anyone have thoughts, ideas, technologies to look at, etc... ?
>
> Mike

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Re: CF & Flash (crazy idea?)

2003-07-03 Thread Michael T. Tangorre
Thanks Jay!
Much appreciated.

Mike


- Original Message - 
From: "Jason Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 12:23 PM
Subject: Re: CF & Flash (crazy idea?)


> http://www.macromedia.com/software/dataconnection/demo/
> fire fly components
>
> May be of some help.. however more of a tool for you the developer than
> the end user. I'm currently looking for a link that had some form
> building type features on a flash list.. I'll be sure to forward if I
> can find it.
>
> Jay Miller
>
> Michael T. Tangorre wrote:
> > Stop trashing this thread! I am trying to get some feedback, not any BS.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> >
> >
> > - Original Message - 
> > From: "John Wilker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 12:04 PM
> > Subject: RE: CF & Flash (crazy idea?)
> >
> >
> >
> >>One of the best lines from that movie. Have a sound byte of it at home.
> >>
> >>-Original Message-
> >>From: Cantrell, Adam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 8:51 AM
> >>To: CF-Talk
> >>Subject: RE: CF & Flash (crazy idea?)
> >>
> >>
> >>When you subscribed to this list did you see a sign on the front of it
> >
> > that
> >
> >>said stupid &*&**%% jokes email list?
> >>
> >>You know why you didn't see that sign?
> >>
> >>Cause it ain't there, cause stupid &*&*%%# jokes ain't this lists
&%$#%$%
> >>business, that's why.
> >>
> >>;)
> >>
> >>Adam.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>-Original Message-
> >>>From: Jim Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 10:39 AM
> >>>To: CF-Talk
> >>>Subject: Re: CF & Flash (crazy idea?)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Vincent: You know what they call a programming methodology at
> >>>Macromedia?
> >>>Jules: They don't call it a programming methodology?
> >>>Vincent: No, they got a marketing department, they don't know
> >>>what the
> >>>&@$! a programming methodology is.
> >>>Jules: Then what do they call it?
> >>>Vincent: A "Royale Initiative"
> >>>Jules: "Royale Initiative!"  What do they call Flash Remoting?
> >>>Vincent: Flash Remoting's Flash Remoting, but they call it "Le Flash
> >>>Remoting".
> >>>Jules: "Le Flash Remoting... hahaha.  What do they call VML?
> >>>Vincent: Dunno, they don't use it.
> >>>
> >>>Ok, ok, sorry - it's almost a holiday and I'm not focusing
> >>>really well :)
> >>>
> >>>- Jim
> >>>
> >>>Benoit Hediard wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>It shoud be possible to do that with
> >>>
> >>>FlashMX/FlashRemotingMX/ColdFusionMX.
> >>>
> >>>>You have all the required features in FlashMX : drag&drop, pixel
> >>>>coordinates, remoting to generate the HTML form with ColdFusionMX...
> >>>>But you'll need a really good ActionScript developer to do
> >>>
> >>>the Flash UI...
> >>>
> >>>>It might be better to wait for Royale,
> >>>>http://www.macromedia.com/special/royale/ (even if it seems
> >>>
> >>>to be designed
> >>>
> >>>>for the contrary : to easily generate Flash forms from XML
> >>>
> >>>files, and not
> >>>
> >>>>HTML forms from Flash UI...).
> >>>>
> >>>>I agree with Bryan, why not using a flash Form instead of an
> >>>
> >>>HTML form?
> >>>
> >>>>Benoit Hediard
> >>>>www.benorama.com
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>-Message d'origine-
> >>>>>De : Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
> >>>>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>>>Envoye : jeudi 3 juillet 2003 17:04
> >>>>>A : CF-Talk
> >>>>>Objet : RE: CF & Flash (crazy idea?)
> >>>>>
> >>>>

Re: CF & Flash (crazy idea?)

2003-07-03 Thread Jason Miller
http://www.macromedia.com/software/dataconnection/demo/
fire fly components

May be of some help.. however more of a tool for you the developer than 
the end user. I'm currently looking for a link that had some form 
building type features on a flash list.. I'll be sure to forward if I 
can find it.

Jay Miller

Michael T. Tangorre wrote:
> Stop trashing this thread! I am trying to get some feedback, not any BS.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "John Wilker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 12:04 PM
> Subject: RE: CF & Flash (crazy idea?)
> 
> 
> 
>>One of the best lines from that movie. Have a sound byte of it at home.
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Cantrell, Adam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 8:51 AM
>>To: CF-Talk
>>Subject: RE: CF & Flash (crazy idea?)
>>
>>
>>When you subscribed to this list did you see a sign on the front of it
> 
> that
> 
>>said stupid &*&**%% jokes email list?
>>
>>You know why you didn't see that sign?
>>
>>Cause it ain't there, cause stupid &*&*%%# jokes ain't this lists &%$#%$%
>>business, that's why.
>>
>>;)
>>
>>Adam.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>-Original Message-
>>>From: Jim Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 10:39 AM
>>>To: CF-Talk
>>>Subject: Re: CF & Flash (crazy idea?)
>>>
>>>
>>>Vincent: You know what they call a programming methodology at
>>>Macromedia?
>>>Jules: They don't call it a programming methodology?
>>>Vincent: No, they got a marketing department, they don't know
>>>what the
>>>&@$! a programming methodology is.
>>>Jules: Then what do they call it?
>>>Vincent: A "Royale Initiative"
>>>Jules: "Royale Initiative!"  What do they call Flash Remoting?
>>>Vincent: Flash Remoting's Flash Remoting, but they call it "Le Flash
>>>Remoting".
>>>Jules: "Le Flash Remoting... hahaha.  What do they call VML?
>>>Vincent: Dunno, they don't use it.
>>>
>>>Ok, ok, sorry - it's almost a holiday and I'm not focusing
>>>really well :)
>>>
>>>- Jim
>>>
>>>Benoit Hediard wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>It shoud be possible to do that with
>>>
>>>FlashMX/FlashRemotingMX/ColdFusionMX.
>>>
>>>>You have all the required features in FlashMX : drag&drop, pixel
>>>>coordinates, remoting to generate the HTML form with ColdFusionMX...
>>>>But you'll need a really good ActionScript developer to do
>>>
>>>the Flash UI...
>>>
>>>>It might be better to wait for Royale,
>>>>http://www.macromedia.com/special/royale/ (even if it seems
>>>
>>>to be designed
>>>
>>>>for the contrary : to easily generate Flash forms from XML
>>>
>>>files, and not
>>>
>>>>HTML forms from Flash UI...).
>>>>
>>>>I agree with Bryan, why not using a flash Form instead of an
>>>
>>>HTML form?
>>>
>>>>Benoit Hediard
>>>>www.benorama.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>-Message d'origine-
>>>>>De : Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
>>>>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>Envoye : jeudi 3 juillet 2003 17:04
>>>>>A : CF-Talk
>>>>>Objet : RE: CF & Flash (crazy idea?)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Dude, I have thought of the same and if you or anycan come
>>>>
>>>up with an idea
>>>
>>>>>solution...please post it.
>>>>>
>>>>>-Original Message-
>>>>>From: Michael T. Tangorre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>Sent: 03 July 2003 15:59
>>>>>To: CF-Talk
>>>>>Subject: CF & Flash (crazy idea?)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Hi everyone.
>>>>>
>>>>>I have an idea and need to know if it is within the
>>>>
>>>capabilities of Flash
>>>
>>>>>and CF. What I would like to do is provide an interface for
>>>>
>>>users to come
>>>
>>>>>to, wh

RE: CF & Flash (crazy idea?)

2003-07-03 Thread Haggerty, Mike
Michael - 

All of the things you mentioned are possible, and a lot more. 

I am currently hard at work on a product that features this capability. 

If you are interested in taking a look at (what will be) the beta version,
please feel free to contact me off list to receive an NDA.

M

-Original Message-
From: Michael T. Tangorre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 10:59 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CF & Flash (crazy idea?)


Hi everyone.

I have an idea and need to know if it is within the capabilities of Flash
and CF. What I would like to do is provide an interface for users to come
to, where they can create forms and position the form elements and element
labels wherever they wish (within a maximum area). How I envision this
working would be to provide within the interface an area that contained a
list of possible form elements to choose from (text input, text area, radio,
check). When a user dragged one of these into the "form area" they could
give it a label and fill in the attributes of that element as well as
position the element and its label wherever they wanted (within the bounds
of course). Now for the crazy part...

Would it be possible to take that Flash movie that the user interacted with
to create the initial form and process it into an HTML form where the layout
was almost identical if not exactly identical to how it was created via the
Flash interface (from a positioning and layout standpoint)? I was thinking
maybe there are some functions in flash to get element coordinates, etc...

The idea would be that this form could be used within an HTML email or
website to gather user feedback. The second part would be to build some kind
of container on the backend whereas those results/responses could be stored.

Obviously this is a complex idea, one in which is beyond the scope of my
abilities at this time. 

Anyone have thoughts, ideas, technologies to look at, etc... ?

Mike 
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Re: CF & Flash (crazy idea?)

2003-07-03 Thread Michael T. Tangorre
Stop trashing this thread! I am trying to get some feedback, not any BS.

Thanks!



- Original Message - 
From: "John Wilker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 12:04 PM
Subject: RE: CF & Flash (crazy idea?)


> One of the best lines from that movie. Have a sound byte of it at home.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Cantrell, Adam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 8:51 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: CF & Flash (crazy idea?)
>
>
> When you subscribed to this list did you see a sign on the front of it
that
> said stupid &*&**%% jokes email list?
>
> You know why you didn't see that sign?
>
> Cause it ain't there, cause stupid &*&*%%# jokes ain't this lists &%$#%$%
> business, that's why.
>
> ;)
>
> Adam.
>
>
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Jim Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 10:39 AM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Re: CF & Flash (crazy idea?)
> >
> >
> > Vincent: You know what they call a programming methodology at
> > Macromedia?
> > Jules: They don't call it a programming methodology?
> > Vincent: No, they got a marketing department, they don't know
> > what the
> > &@$! a programming methodology is.
> > Jules: Then what do they call it?
> > Vincent: A "Royale Initiative"
> > Jules: "Royale Initiative!"  What do they call Flash Remoting?
> > Vincent: Flash Remoting's Flash Remoting, but they call it "Le Flash
> > Remoting".
> > Jules: "Le Flash Remoting... hahaha.  What do they call VML?
> > Vincent: Dunno, they don't use it.
> >
> > Ok, ok, sorry - it's almost a holiday and I'm not focusing
> > really well :)
> >
> > - Jim
> >
> > Benoit Hediard wrote:
> >
> > >It shoud be possible to do that with
> > FlashMX/FlashRemotingMX/ColdFusionMX.
> > >You have all the required features in FlashMX : drag&drop, pixel
> > >coordinates, remoting to generate the HTML form with ColdFusionMX...
> > >But you'll need a really good ActionScript developer to do
> > the Flash UI...
> > >
> > >It might be better to wait for Royale,
> > >http://www.macromedia.com/special/royale/ (even if it seems
> > to be designed
> > >for the contrary : to easily generate Flash forms from XML
> > files, and not
> > >HTML forms from Flash UI...).
> > >
> > >I agree with Bryan, why not using a flash Form instead of an
> > HTML form?
> > >
> > >Benoit Hediard
> > >www.benorama.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >>-Message d'origine-
> > >>De : Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
> > >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>Envoye : jeudi 3 juillet 2003 17:04
> > >>A : CF-Talk
> > >>Objet : RE: CF & Flash (crazy idea?)
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>Dude, I have thought of the same and if you or anycan come
> > up with an idea
> > >>solution...please post it.
> > >>
> > >>-Original Message-
> > >>From: Michael T. Tangorre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>Sent: 03 July 2003 15:59
> > >>To: CF-Talk
> > >>Subject: CF & Flash (crazy idea?)
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>Hi everyone.
> > >>
> > >>I have an idea and need to know if it is within the
> > capabilities of Flash
> > >>and CF. What I would like to do is provide an interface for
> > users to come
> > >>to, where they can create forms and position the form
> > elements and element
> > >>labels wherever they wish (within a maximum area). How I
> > envision this
> > >>working would be to provide within the interface an area
> > that contained a
> > >>list of possible form elements to choose from (text input, text
> > >>area, radio,
> > >>check). When a user dragged one of these into the "form
> > area" they could
> > >>give it a label and fill in the attributes of that element
> > as well as
> > >>position the element and its label wherever they wanted
> > (within the bounds
> > >>of course). Now for the crazy part...
> > >>
> > >>Would it be possible to take that Flash movie that the user
> > >>interacted with
> > >>

RE: CF & Flash (crazy idea?)

2003-07-03 Thread John Wilker
One of the best lines from that movie. Have a sound byte of it at home. 

-Original Message-
From: Cantrell, Adam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 8:51 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF & Flash (crazy idea?)


When you subscribed to this list did you see a sign on the front of it that
said stupid &*&**%% jokes email list?

You know why you didn't see that sign?

Cause it ain't there, cause stupid &*&*%%# jokes ain't this lists &%$#%$%
business, that's why.

;)

Adam.




> -Original Message-
> From: Jim Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 10:39 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: CF & Flash (crazy idea?)
> 
> 
> Vincent: You know what they call a programming methodology at 
> Macromedia?
> Jules: They don't call it a programming methodology?
> Vincent: No, they got a marketing department, they don't know 
> what the 
> &@$! a programming methodology is.
> Jules: Then what do they call it?
> Vincent: A "Royale Initiative"
> Jules: "Royale Initiative!"  What do they call Flash Remoting?
> Vincent: Flash Remoting's Flash Remoting, but they call it "Le Flash 
> Remoting".
> Jules: "Le Flash Remoting... hahaha.  What do they call VML?
> Vincent: Dunno, they don't use it.
> 
> Ok, ok, sorry - it's almost a holiday and I'm not focusing 
> really well :)
> 
> - Jim
> 
> Benoit Hediard wrote:
> 
> >It shoud be possible to do that with 
> FlashMX/FlashRemotingMX/ColdFusionMX.
> >You have all the required features in FlashMX : drag&drop, pixel
> >coordinates, remoting to generate the HTML form with ColdFusionMX...
> >But you'll need a really good ActionScript developer to do 
> the Flash UI...
> >
> >It might be better to wait for Royale,
> >http://www.macromedia.com/special/royale/ (even if it seems 
> to be designed
> >for the contrary : to easily generate Flash forms from XML 
> files, and not
> >HTML forms from Flash UI...).
> >
> >I agree with Bryan, why not using a flash Form instead of an 
> HTML form?
> >
> >Benoit Hediard
> >www.benorama.com
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> >>-Message d'origine-
> >>De : Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
> >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>Envoye : jeudi 3 juillet 2003 17:04
> >>A : CF-Talk
> >>Objet : RE: CF & Flash (crazy idea?)
> >>
> >>
> >>Dude, I have thought of the same and if you or anycan come 
> up with an idea
> >>solution...please post it.
> >>
> >>-Original Message-
> >>From: Michael T. Tangorre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>Sent: 03 July 2003 15:59
> >>To: CF-Talk
> >>Subject: CF & Flash (crazy idea?)
> >>
> >>
> >>Hi everyone.
> >>
> >>I have an idea and need to know if it is within the 
> capabilities of Flash
> >>and CF. What I would like to do is provide an interface for 
> users to come
> >>to, where they can create forms and position the form 
> elements and element
> >>labels wherever they wish (within a maximum area). How I 
> envision this
> >>working would be to provide within the interface an area 
> that contained a
> >>list of possible form elements to choose from (text input, text
> >>area, radio,
> >>check). When a user dragged one of these into the "form 
> area" they could
> >>give it a label and fill in the attributes of that element 
> as well as
> >>position the element and its label wherever they wanted 
> (within the bounds
> >>of course). Now for the crazy part...
> >>
> >>Would it be possible to take that Flash movie that the user
> >>interacted with
> >>to create the initial form and process it into an HTML form where
> >>the layout
> >>was almost identical if not exactly identical to how it was
> >>created via the
> >>Flash interface (from a positioning and layout standpoint)? 
> I was thinking
> >>maybe there are some functions in flash to get element 
> coordinates, etc...
> >>
> >>The idea would be that this form could be used within an 
> HTML email or
> >>website to gather user feedback. The second part would be to
> >>build some kind
> >>of container on the backend whereas those results/responses could
> >>be stored.
> >>
> >>Obviously this is a complex idea, one in which is beyond 
> the scope of my
> >>abilities at this time.
> >>
> >>Anyone have thoughts, ideas, technologies to look at, etc... ?
> >>
> >>Mike
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> 

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Re: CF & Flash (crazy idea?)

2003-07-03 Thread Jim Campbell
Bring out the GIMP.

- Jim

Cantrell, Adam wrote:

>When you subscribed to this list did you see a sign on the front of it that
>said stupid &*&**%% jokes email list?
>
>You know why you didn't see that sign?
>
>Cause it ain't there, cause stupid &*&*%%# jokes ain't this lists &%$#%$%
>business, that's why.
>
>;)
>
>Adam.
>
>
>
>
>  
>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Jim Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 10:39 AM
>>To: CF-Talk
>>Subject: Re: CF & Flash (crazy idea?)
>>
>>
>>Vincent: You know what they call a programming methodology at 
>>Macromedia?
>>Jules: They don't call it a programming methodology?
>>Vincent: No, they got a marketing department, they don't know 
>>what the 
>>&@$! a programming methodology is.
>>Jules: Then what do they call it?
>>Vincent: A "Royale Initiative"
>>Jules: "Royale Initiative!"  What do they call Flash Remoting?
>>Vincent: Flash Remoting's Flash Remoting, but they call it "Le Flash 
>>Remoting".
>>Jules: "Le Flash Remoting... hahaha.  What do they call VML?
>>Vincent: Dunno, they don't use it.
>>
>>Ok, ok, sorry - it's almost a holiday and I'm not focusing 
>>really well :)
>>
>>- Jim
>>
>>Benoit Hediard wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>It shoud be possible to do that with 
>>>  
>>>
>>FlashMX/FlashRemotingMX/ColdFusionMX.
>>
>>
>>>You have all the required features in FlashMX : drag&drop, pixel
>>>coordinates, remoting to generate the HTML form with ColdFusionMX...
>>>But you'll need a really good ActionScript developer to do 
>>>  
>>>
>>the Flash UI...
>>
>>
>>>It might be better to wait for Royale,
>>>http://www.macromedia.com/special/royale/ (even if it seems 
>>>  
>>>
>>to be designed
>>    
>>
>>>for the contrary : to easily generate Flash forms from XML 
>>>  
>>>
>>files, and not
>>
>>
>>>HTML forms from Flash UI...).
>>>
>>>I agree with Bryan, why not using a flash Form instead of an 
>>>      
>>>
>>HTML form?
>>
>>
>>>Benoit Hediard
>>>www.benorama.com
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>>-Message d'origine-
>>>>De : Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
>>>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>Envoye : jeudi 3 juillet 2003 17:04
>>>>A : CF-Talk
>>>>Objet : RE: CF & Flash (crazy idea?)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Dude, I have thought of the same and if you or anycan come 
>>>>
>>>>
>>up with an idea
>>
>>
>>>>solution...please post it.
>>>>
>>>>-Original Message-
>>>>From: Michael T. Tangorre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>Sent: 03 July 2003 15:59
>>>>To: CF-Talk
>>>>Subject: CF & Flash (crazy idea?)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Hi everyone.
>>>>
>>>>I have an idea and need to know if it is within the 
>>>>
>>>>
>>capabilities of Flash
>>
>>
>>>>and CF. What I would like to do is provide an interface for 
>>>>
>>>>
>>users to come
>>
>>
>>>>to, where they can create forms and position the form 
>>>>
>>>>
>>elements and element
>>
>>
>>>>labels wherever they wish (within a maximum area). How I 
>>>>
>>>>
>>envision this
>>
>>
>>>>working would be to provide within the interface an area 
>>>>
>>>>
>>that contained a
>>
>>
>>>>list of possible form elements to choose from (text input, text
>>>>area, radio,
>>>>check). When a user dragged one of these into the "form 
>>>>
>>>>
>>area" they could
>>
>>
>>>>give it a label and fill in the attributes of that element 
>>>>
>>>>
>>as well as
>>
>>
>>>>position the element and its label wherever they wanted 
>>>>
>>>>
>>(within the bounds
>>
>>
>>>&

RE: CF & Flash (crazy idea?)

2003-07-03 Thread Cantrell, Adam
When you subscribed to this list did you see a sign on the front of it that
said stupid &*&**%% jokes email list?

You know why you didn't see that sign?

Cause it ain't there, cause stupid &*&*%%# jokes ain't this lists &%$#%$%
business, that's why.

;)

Adam.




> -Original Message-
> From: Jim Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 10:39 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: CF & Flash (crazy idea?)
> 
> 
> Vincent: You know what they call a programming methodology at 
> Macromedia?
> Jules: They don't call it a programming methodology?
> Vincent: No, they got a marketing department, they don't know 
> what the 
> &@$! a programming methodology is.
> Jules: Then what do they call it?
> Vincent: A "Royale Initiative"
> Jules: "Royale Initiative!"  What do they call Flash Remoting?
> Vincent: Flash Remoting's Flash Remoting, but they call it "Le Flash 
> Remoting".
> Jules: "Le Flash Remoting... hahaha.  What do they call VML?
> Vincent: Dunno, they don't use it.
> 
> Ok, ok, sorry - it's almost a holiday and I'm not focusing 
> really well :)
> 
> - Jim
> 
> Benoit Hediard wrote:
> 
> >It shoud be possible to do that with 
> FlashMX/FlashRemotingMX/ColdFusionMX.
> >You have all the required features in FlashMX : drag&drop, pixel
> >coordinates, remoting to generate the HTML form with ColdFusionMX...
> >But you'll need a really good ActionScript developer to do 
> the Flash UI...
> >
> >It might be better to wait for Royale,
> >http://www.macromedia.com/special/royale/ (even if it seems 
> to be designed
> >for the contrary : to easily generate Flash forms from XML 
> files, and not
> >HTML forms from Flash UI...).
> >
> >I agree with Bryan, why not using a flash Form instead of an 
> HTML form?
> >
> >Benoit Hediard
> >www.benorama.com
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> >>-Message d'origine-
> >>De : Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
> >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>Envoye : jeudi 3 juillet 2003 17:04
> >>A : CF-Talk
> >>Objet : RE: CF & Flash (crazy idea?)
> >>
> >>
> >>Dude, I have thought of the same and if you or anycan come 
> up with an idea
> >>solution...please post it.
> >>
> >>-Original Message-
> >>From: Michael T. Tangorre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>Sent: 03 July 2003 15:59
> >>To: CF-Talk
> >>Subject: CF & Flash (crazy idea?)
> >>
> >>
> >>Hi everyone.
> >>
> >>I have an idea and need to know if it is within the 
> capabilities of Flash
> >>and CF. What I would like to do is provide an interface for 
> users to come
> >>to, where they can create forms and position the form 
> elements and element
> >>labels wherever they wish (within a maximum area). How I 
> envision this
> >>working would be to provide within the interface an area 
> that contained a
> >>list of possible form elements to choose from (text input, text
> >>area, radio,
> >>check). When a user dragged one of these into the "form 
> area" they could
> >>give it a label and fill in the attributes of that element 
> as well as
> >>position the element and its label wherever they wanted 
> (within the bounds
> >>of course). Now for the crazy part...
> >>
> >>Would it be possible to take that Flash movie that the user
> >>interacted with
> >>to create the initial form and process it into an HTML form where
> >>the layout
> >>was almost identical if not exactly identical to how it was
> >>created via the
> >>Flash interface (from a positioning and layout standpoint)? 
> I was thinking
> >>maybe there are some functions in flash to get element 
> coordinates, etc...
> >>
> >>The idea would be that this form could be used within an 
> HTML email or
> >>website to gather user feedback. The second part would be to
> >>build some kind
> >>of container on the backend whereas those results/responses could
> >>be stored.
> >>
> >>Obviously this is a complex idea, one in which is beyond 
> the scope of my
> >>abilities at this time.
> >>
> >>Anyone have thoughts, ideas, technologies to look at, etc... ?
> >>
> >>Mike
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> 
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Re: CF & Flash (crazy idea?)

2003-07-03 Thread Jim Campbell
Vincent: You know what they call a programming methodology at Macromedia?
Jules: They don't call it a programming methodology?
Vincent: No, they got a marketing department, they don't know what the 
&@$! a programming methodology is.
Jules: Then what do they call it?
Vincent: A "Royale Initiative"
Jules: "Royale Initiative!"  What do they call Flash Remoting?
Vincent: Flash Remoting's Flash Remoting, but they call it "Le Flash 
Remoting".
Jules: "Le Flash Remoting... hahaha.  What do they call VML?
Vincent: Dunno, they don't use it.

Ok, ok, sorry - it's almost a holiday and I'm not focusing really well :)

- Jim

Benoit Hediard wrote:

>It shoud be possible to do that with FlashMX/FlashRemotingMX/ColdFusionMX.
>You have all the required features in FlashMX : drag&drop, pixel
>coordinates, remoting to generate the HTML form with ColdFusionMX...
>But you'll need a really good ActionScript developer to do the Flash UI...
>
>It might be better to wait for Royale,
>http://www.macromedia.com/special/royale/ (even if it seems to be designed
>for the contrary : to easily generate Flash forms from XML files, and not
>HTML forms from Flash UI...).
>
>I agree with Bryan, why not using a flash Form instead of an HTML form?
>
>Benoit Hediard
>www.benorama.com
>
>
>  
>
>>-Message d'origine-----
>>De : Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Envoyé : jeudi 3 juillet 2003 17:04
>>À : CF-Talk
>>Objet : RE: CF & Flash (crazy idea?)
>>
>>
>>Dude, I have thought of the same and if you or anycan come up with an idea
>>solution...please post it.
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Michael T. Tangorre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Sent: 03 July 2003 15:59
>>To: CF-Talk
>>Subject: CF & Flash (crazy idea?)
>>
>>
>>Hi everyone.
>>
>>I have an idea and need to know if it is within the capabilities of Flash
>>and CF. What I would like to do is provide an interface for users to come
>>to, where they can create forms and position the form elements and element
>>labels wherever they wish (within a maximum area). How I envision this
>>working would be to provide within the interface an area that contained a
>>list of possible form elements to choose from (text input, text
>>area, radio,
>>check). When a user dragged one of these into the "form area" they could
>>give it a label and fill in the attributes of that element as well as
>>position the element and its label wherever they wanted (within the bounds
>>of course). Now for the crazy part...
>>
>>Would it be possible to take that Flash movie that the user
>>interacted with
>>to create the initial form and process it into an HTML form where
>>the layout
>>was almost identical if not exactly identical to how it was
>>created via the
>>Flash interface (from a positioning and layout standpoint)? I was thinking
>>maybe there are some functions in flash to get element coordinates, etc...
>>
>>The idea would be that this form could be used within an HTML email or
>>website to gather user feedback. The second part would be to
>>build some kind
>>of container on the backend whereas those results/responses could
>>be stored.
>>
>>Obviously this is a complex idea, one in which is beyond the scope of my
>>abilities at this time.
>>
>>Anyone have thoughts, ideas, technologies to look at, etc... ?
>>
>>Mike
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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RE: CF & Flash (crazy idea?)

2003-07-03 Thread Andre Mohamed
Is there a particular reason why Flash is being mandated or needs to be
used? 

If not, it would be just as possible to build using DHTML though that
doesn't mean Flash shouldn't be used after all you'll have to deal with
cross browser issues with the DHTML approach - however I believe the
database interaction would be slightly easier.

I would perhaps implement this as a two step process:

1) The user builds up a list of form "elements" - no wysiwyg involved -
just normal web application stuff selecting from a pre-defined set. Then
they would set properties for each element they add. You could allow the
ability of setting maximum and minimum sizes, mandatory/non-mandatory,
look up values etc. This list is then persisted - perhaps to a database
of some sort. You can also create a table which would be able to hold
the contents of the form.

2) Step 2 allows the user to arrange the "elements" they selected in
step 1 on the screen via drag and drop techniques. In addition, you
could allow the appropriate "styling" of the elements at this stage.
Once this is done, the co-ordinates and positioning can be persisted -
again perhaps to a database.

It should then be feasible to build the form dynamically on-demand -
including client-side and server-side validation and also perform the
database insert into the newly created table by automatically creating
the appropriate SQL provided you captured enough data initially.

There doesn't seem to be any reason why this can't be done and indeed it
has been done to varying degrees e.g. CommonSpot's simple form builder
etc.

André


-Original Message-
From: Michael T. Tangorre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 03 July 2003 15:59
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CF & Flash (crazy idea?)

Hi everyone.

I have an idea and need to know if it is within the capabilities of
Flash and CF. What I would like to do is provide an interface for users
to come to, where they can create forms and position the form elements
and element labels wherever they wish (within a maximum area). How I
envision this working would be to provide within the interface an area
that contained a list of possible form elements to choose from (text
input, text area, radio, check). When a user dragged one of these into
the "form area" they could give it a label and fill in the attributes of
that element as well as position the element and its label wherever they
wanted (within the bounds of course). Now for the crazy part...

Would it be possible to take that Flash movie that the user interacted
with to create the initial form and process it into an HTML form where
the layout was almost identical if not exactly identical to how it was
created via the Flash interface (from a positioning and layout
standpoint)? I was thinking maybe there are some functions in flash to
get element coordinates, etc...

The idea would be that this form could be used within an HTML email or
website to gather user feedback. The second part would be to build some
kind of container on the backend whereas those results/responses could
be stored.

Obviously this is a complex idea, one in which is beyond the scope of my
abilities at this time. 

Anyone have thoughts, ideas, technologies to look at, etc... ?

Mike

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RE: CF & Flash (crazy idea?)

2003-07-03 Thread Benoit Hediard
It shoud be possible to do that with FlashMX/FlashRemotingMX/ColdFusionMX.
You have all the required features in FlashMX : drag&drop, pixel
coordinates, remoting to generate the HTML form with ColdFusionMX...
But you'll need a really good ActionScript developer to do the Flash UI...

It might be better to wait for Royale,
http://www.macromedia.com/special/royale/ (even if it seems to be designed
for the contrary : to easily generate Flash forms from XML files, and not
HTML forms from Flash UI...).

I agree with Bryan, why not using a flash Form instead of an HTML form?

Benoit Hediard
www.benorama.com


> -Message d'origine-
> De : Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Envoyé : jeudi 3 juillet 2003 17:04
> À : CF-Talk
> Objet : RE: CF & Flash (crazy idea?)
>
>
> Dude, I have thought of the same and if you or anycan come up with an idea
> solution...please post it.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Michael T. Tangorre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 03 July 2003 15:59
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: CF & Flash (crazy idea?)
>
>
> Hi everyone.
>
> I have an idea and need to know if it is within the capabilities of Flash
> and CF. What I would like to do is provide an interface for users to come
> to, where they can create forms and position the form elements and element
> labels wherever they wish (within a maximum area). How I envision this
> working would be to provide within the interface an area that contained a
> list of possible form elements to choose from (text input, text
> area, radio,
> check). When a user dragged one of these into the "form area" they could
> give it a label and fill in the attributes of that element as well as
> position the element and its label wherever they wanted (within the bounds
> of course). Now for the crazy part...
>
> Would it be possible to take that Flash movie that the user
> interacted with
> to create the initial form and process it into an HTML form where
> the layout
> was almost identical if not exactly identical to how it was
> created via the
> Flash interface (from a positioning and layout standpoint)? I was thinking
> maybe there are some functions in flash to get element coordinates, etc...
>
> The idea would be that this form could be used within an HTML email or
> website to gather user feedback. The second part would be to
> build some kind
> of container on the backend whereas those results/responses could
> be stored.
>
> Obviously this is a complex idea, one in which is beyond the scope of my
> abilities at this time.
>
> Anyone have thoughts, ideas, technologies to look at, etc... ?
>
> Mike
>
> 
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Re: CF & Flash (crazy idea?)

2003-07-03 Thread CF Dude
This most likely won't work because of the client's security settings.  Sometimes, in 
outlook express I'll send web
pages to coworkers for proofs.  The pages that contain any sort of flash content 
doesn't work because of security.

If somebody could get around that, then it'd probably work just fine.

This idea is a great idea, but not a new one.  It sounds a lot like designing forms in 
the Remedy admin tool, or forms
in access.

E

- Original Message - 
From: "Bryan Stevenson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

If you're sending it via e-mail can't you just send the HTML that embeds the 
SWFthat way the user can fill the form
out in Flash??

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Re: CF & Flash (crazy idea?)

2003-07-03 Thread Michael T. Tangorre
I did think of that... however, I came across some discussions in my
research about email clients blocking embedded flash and such.. I have not
confirmed this yet, but the downside is that you would have to ensure your
recipient had the flash plugin, etc

Mike


- Original Message - 
From: "Bryan Stevenson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 11:20 AM
Subject: Re: CF & Flash (crazy idea?)


> I'd say part one is definately possible, but part 2 is pushing it.
>
> Here's a questionWhy does it have to be an HTML form?  If you're
sending
> it via e-mail can't you just send the HTML that embeds the SWFthat way
> the user can fill the form out in Flash??
>
> It just sounds like mabye you've overthought this one and made it more
> complex than it has to be ;-)
>
> HTH
>
> Cheers
>
> Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
> VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
> Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
> t. 250.920.8830
> e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> -
> Macromedia Associate Partner
> www.macromedia.com
> -
> Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group
> Founder & Director
> www.cfug-vancouverisland.com
> - Original Message -----
> From: "Michael T. Tangorre" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 7:58 AM
> Subject: CF & Flash (crazy idea?)
>
>
> > Hi everyone.
> >
> > I have an idea and need to know if it is within the capabilities of
Flash
> and CF. What I would like to do is provide an interface for users to come
> to, where they can create forms and position the form elements and element
> labels wherever they wish (within a maximum area). How I envision this
> working would be to provide within the interface an area that contained a
> list of possible form elements to choose from (text input, text area,
radio,
> check). When a user dragged one of these into the "form area" they could
> give it a label and fill in the attributes of that element as well as
> position the element and its label wherever they wanted (within the bounds
> of course). Now for the crazy part...
> >
> > Would it be possible to take that Flash movie that the user interacted
> with to create the initial form and process it into an HTML form where the
> layout was almost identical if not exactly identical to how it was created
> via the Flash interface (from a positioning and layout standpoint)? I was
> thinking maybe there are some functions in flash to get element
coordinates,
> etc...
> >
> > The idea would be that this form could be used within an HTML email or
> website to gather user feedback. The second part would be to build some
kind
> of container on the backend whereas those results/responses could be
stored.
> >
> > Obviously this is a complex idea, one in which is beyond the scope of my
> abilities at this time.
> >
> > Anyone have thoughts, ideas, technologies to look at, etc... ?
> >
> > Mike
> >
> 
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Re: CF & Flash (crazy idea?)

2003-07-03 Thread Bryan Stevenson
Show me the money!! ;-)

Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
t. 250.920.8830
e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

-
Macromedia Associate Partner
www.macromedia.com
-
Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group
Founder & Director
www.cfug-vancouverisland.com
- Original Message -
From: "Michael T. Tangorre" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 8:05 AM
Subject: Re: CF & Flash (crazy idea?)


> Yeah, if someone could develop this, they could help alot of people out
and
> make a good deal of $ at the same time :-)
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 11:03 AM
> Subject: RE: CF & Flash (crazy idea?)
>
>
> > Dude, I have thought of the same and if you or anycan come up with an
idea
> > solution...please post it.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Michael T. Tangorre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 03 July 2003 15:59
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: CF & Flash (crazy idea?)
> >
> >
> > Hi everyone.
> >
> > I have an idea and need to know if it is within the capabilities of
Flash
> > and CF. What I would like to do is provide an interface for users to
come
> > to, where they can create forms and position the form elements and
element
> > labels wherever they wish (within a maximum area). How I envision this
> > working would be to provide within the interface an area that contained
a
> > list of possible form elements to choose from (text input, text area,
> radio,
> > check). When a user dragged one of these into the "form area" they could
> > give it a label and fill in the attributes of that element as well as
> > position the element and its label wherever they wanted (within the
bounds
> > of course). Now for the crazy part...
> >
> > Would it be possible to take that Flash movie that the user interacted
> with
> > to create the initial form and process it into an HTML form where the
> layout
> > was almost identical if not exactly identical to how it was created via
> the
> > Flash interface (from a positioning and layout standpoint)? I was
thinking
> > maybe there are some functions in flash to get element coordinates,
etc...
> >
> > The idea would be that this form could be used within an HTML email or
> > website to gather user feedback. The second part would be to build some
> kind
> > of container on the backend whereas those results/responses could be
> stored.
> >
> > Obviously this is a complex idea, one in which is beyond the scope of my
> > abilities at this time.
> >
> > Anyone have thoughts, ideas, technologies to look at, etc... ?
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> 
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Re: CF & Flash (crazy idea?)

2003-07-03 Thread Bryan Stevenson
I'd say part one is definately possible, but part 2 is pushing it.

Here's a questionWhy does it have to be an HTML form?  If you're sending
it via e-mail can't you just send the HTML that embeds the SWFthat way
the user can fill the form out in Flash??

It just sounds like mabye you've overthought this one and made it more
complex than it has to be ;-)

HTH

Cheers

Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
t. 250.920.8830
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From: "Michael T. Tangorre" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 7:58 AM
Subject: CF & Flash (crazy idea?)


> Hi everyone.
>
> I have an idea and need to know if it is within the capabilities of Flash
and CF. What I would like to do is provide an interface for users to come
to, where they can create forms and position the form elements and element
labels wherever they wish (within a maximum area). How I envision this
working would be to provide within the interface an area that contained a
list of possible form elements to choose from (text input, text area, radio,
check). When a user dragged one of these into the "form area" they could
give it a label and fill in the attributes of that element as well as
position the element and its label wherever they wanted (within the bounds
of course). Now for the crazy part...
>
> Would it be possible to take that Flash movie that the user interacted
with to create the initial form and process it into an HTML form where the
layout was almost identical if not exactly identical to how it was created
via the Flash interface (from a positioning and layout standpoint)? I was
thinking maybe there are some functions in flash to get element coordinates,
etc...
>
> The idea would be that this form could be used within an HTML email or
website to gather user feedback. The second part would be to build some kind
of container on the backend whereas those results/responses could be stored.
>
> Obviously this is a complex idea, one in which is beyond the scope of my
abilities at this time.
>
> Anyone have thoughts, ideas, technologies to look at, etc... ?
>
> Mike
> 
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Re: CF & Flash (crazy idea?)

2003-07-03 Thread Michael T. Tangorre
Yeah, if someone could develop this, they could help alot of people out and
make a good deal of $ at the same time :-)


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From: "Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 11:03 AM
Subject: RE: CF & Flash (crazy idea?)


> Dude, I have thought of the same and if you or anycan come up with an idea
> solution...please post it.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Michael T. Tangorre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 03 July 2003 15:59
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: CF & Flash (crazy idea?)
>
>
> Hi everyone.
>
> I have an idea and need to know if it is within the capabilities of Flash
> and CF. What I would like to do is provide an interface for users to come
> to, where they can create forms and position the form elements and element
> labels wherever they wish (within a maximum area). How I envision this
> working would be to provide within the interface an area that contained a
> list of possible form elements to choose from (text input, text area,
radio,
> check). When a user dragged one of these into the "form area" they could
> give it a label and fill in the attributes of that element as well as
> position the element and its label wherever they wanted (within the bounds
> of course). Now for the crazy part...
>
> Would it be possible to take that Flash movie that the user interacted
with
> to create the initial form and process it into an HTML form where the
layout
> was almost identical if not exactly identical to how it was created via
the
> Flash interface (from a positioning and layout standpoint)? I was thinking
> maybe there are some functions in flash to get element coordinates, etc...
>
> The idea would be that this form could be used within an HTML email or
> website to gather user feedback. The second part would be to build some
kind
> of container on the backend whereas those results/responses could be
stored.
>
> Obviously this is a complex idea, one in which is beyond the scope of my
> abilities at this time.
>
> Anyone have thoughts, ideas, technologies to look at, etc... ?
>
> Mike
>
> 
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RE: CF & Flash (crazy idea?)

2003-07-03 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
Dude, I have thought of the same and if you or anycan come up with an idea
solution...please post it.

-Original Message-
From: Michael T. Tangorre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 03 July 2003 15:59
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CF & Flash (crazy idea?)


Hi everyone.

I have an idea and need to know if it is within the capabilities of Flash
and CF. What I would like to do is provide an interface for users to come
to, where they can create forms and position the form elements and element
labels wherever they wish (within a maximum area). How I envision this
working would be to provide within the interface an area that contained a
list of possible form elements to choose from (text input, text area, radio,
check). When a user dragged one of these into the "form area" they could
give it a label and fill in the attributes of that element as well as
position the element and its label wherever they wanted (within the bounds
of course). Now for the crazy part...

Would it be possible to take that Flash movie that the user interacted with
to create the initial form and process it into an HTML form where the layout
was almost identical if not exactly identical to how it was created via the
Flash interface (from a positioning and layout standpoint)? I was thinking
maybe there are some functions in flash to get element coordinates, etc...

The idea would be that this form could be used within an HTML email or
website to gather user feedback. The second part would be to build some kind
of container on the backend whereas those results/responses could be stored.

Obviously this is a complex idea, one in which is beyond the scope of my
abilities at this time. 

Anyone have thoughts, ideas, technologies to look at, etc... ?

Mike

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CF & Flash (crazy idea?)

2003-07-03 Thread Michael T. Tangorre
Hi everyone.

I have an idea and need to know if it is within the capabilities of Flash and CF. What 
I would like to do is provide an interface for users to come to, where they can create 
forms and position the form elements and element labels wherever they wish (within a 
maximum area). How I envision this working would be to provide within the interface an 
area that contained a list of possible form elements to choose from (text input, text 
area, radio, check). When a user dragged one of these into the "form area" they could 
give it a label and fill in the attributes of that element as well as position the 
element and its label wherever they wanted (within the bounds of course). Now for the 
crazy part...

Would it be possible to take that Flash movie that the user interacted with to create 
the initial form and process it into an HTML form where the layout was almost 
identical if not exactly identical to how it was created via the Flash interface (from 
a positioning and layout standpoint)? I was thinking maybe there are some functions in 
flash to get element coordinates, etc...

The idea would be that this form could be used within an HTML email or website to 
gather user feedback. The second part would be to build some kind of container on the 
backend whereas those results/responses could be stored.

Obviously this is a complex idea, one in which is beyond the scope of my abilities at 
this time. 

Anyone have thoughts, ideas, technologies to look at, etc... ?

Mike
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