Re: cfmail and exchange server
If you examine the headers for a few of the messages you should be able to tell where the slowdown was. Mailservers stamp datetimes on messages as they are processed so it should be easy enough to look back through the headers and see where in the process the slowdown occured. In Outlook, open the message, then View Options to see the headers information. Once you know where the slowdown is, you can start looking for problems there. -Cameron On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 18:14:41 -0800, Ken Ketsdever [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The operations side of the house has recently built a windows 2000 server with exchange server 2000. Its an outsourced box at a server farm in Texas (good place for a farm). I've written a simple piece of code that creates a maillist with my email address 1,000 times. cfset maillist = cfoutput cfloop condition=counter lt 1000 cfif listlen(maillist) cfset maillist = maillist , [EMAIL PROTECTED] cfset counter = counter +1 cfelse cfset maillist = [EMAIL PROTECTED] cfset counter = counter +1 /cfif /cfloop /cfoutput I then use cfmail to loop over the list and send me 1,000 messages. cfoutput cfloop list=#maillist# index=i cfmail to=#i# from= [EMAIL PROTECTED] subject=#getMessages.Subject# type=html server=MyExchangeServer p#getMessages.Title#/p #getMessages.Content# /cfmail The CF page runs in about 13 seconds. It then takes the exchange server about 17 minutes to send off the 1,000 messages. That's only 3529 messages an hour. There is no way in hell a spam house can be profitable sending out 3500 messages and hour. I get offers to send out 1 million emails for $150.00 all the time. At 3,500 an hour that would take over 285 hours (nearly 12 days). Something has got to be wrong. Note: I am not bulding this to send out spam. We are trying to send out a newsletter type email to 25,000 opt in users. Anyone got any ideas? Being the CF runs in 13 seconds I doubt it is on the cf side. Anyone familar with Windows Exchange server? Ken Ketsdever Web Developer www.BloodSource.org http://www.bloodsource.org/ (916) 453-3718 Confidentiality Notice: This message including any attachments is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete any copies of this message. ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Silver Sponsor - CFDynamics http://www.cfdynamics.com Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:188984 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: cfmail and exchange server
Also, you may want to double-check your mail spool settings in CF Administrator on the server. CF Server will spool the messages and send them to the mail server at that rate. So the page can be done processing, but the emails are still spooled _ April Orlofsky Web Application Developer RWD Technologies 410.869.1090 (Office phone) http://www.rwd.com -Original Message- From: Cameron Childress [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 5:13 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: cfmail and exchange server If you examine the headers for a few of the messages you should be able to tell where the slowdown was. Mailservers stamp datetimes on messages as they are processed so it should be easy enough to look back through the headers and see where in the process the slowdown occured. In Outlook, open the message, then View Options to see the headers information. Once you know where the slowdown is, you can start looking for problems there. -Cameron On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 18:14:41 -0800, Ken Ketsdever [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The operations side of the house has recently built a windows 2000 server with exchange server 2000. Its an outsourced box at a server farm in Texas (good place for a farm). I've written a simple piece of code that creates a maillist with my email address 1,000 times. cfset maillist = cfoutput cfloop condition=counter lt 1000 cfif listlen(maillist) cfset maillist = maillist , [EMAIL PROTECTED] cfset counter = counter +1 cfelse cfset maillist = [EMAIL PROTECTED] cfset counter = counter +1 /cfif /cfloop /cfoutput I then use cfmail to loop over the list and send me 1,000 messages. cfoutput cfloop list=#maillist# index=i cfmail to=#i# from= [EMAIL PROTECTED] subject=#getMessages.Subject# type=html server=MyExchangeServer p#getMessages.Title#/p #getMessages.Content# /cfmail The CF page runs in about 13 seconds. It then takes the exchange server about 17 minutes to send off the 1,000 messages. That's only 3529 messages an hour. There is no way in hell a spam house can be profitable sending out 3500 messages and hour. I get offers to send out 1 million emails for $150.00 all the time. At 3,500 an hour that would take over 285 hours (nearly 12 days). Something has got to be wrong. Note: I am not bulding this to send out spam. We are trying to send out a newsletter type email to 25,000 opt in users. Anyone got any ideas? Being the CF runs in 13 seconds I doubt it is on the cf side. Anyone familar with Windows Exchange server? Ken Ketsdever Web Developer www.BloodSource.org http://www.bloodsource.org/ (916) 453-3718 Confidentiality Notice: This message including any attachments is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete any copies of this message. ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Gold Sponsor - CFHosting.net http://www.cfhosting.net Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:188994 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: cfmail and exchange server
I've tried playing wtih the Spool Interval anywhere from 1 - 60 seconds. I've also turned off the mail log (that seemed to help a little). I've also tried using the Spool mail messages for delivery both on and off. It is still taking just shy of one second per message to be sent out via the spool. The content of the message is about 2 paragraphs of text, no images. I've heard that Enterprise boasts the ability to punch out 1 million messages an hour. Can standard be that far behind or are there other settings that I am unaware of? Any help would be appreciated. Ken Confidentiality Notice: This message including any attachments is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete any copies of this message. ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Silver Sponsor - CFDynamics http://www.cfdynamics.com Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:189008 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
cfmail and exchange server
The operations side of the house has recently built a windows 2000 server with exchange server 2000. Its an outsourced box at a server farm in Texas (good place for a farm). I've written a simple piece of code that creates a maillist with my email address 1,000 times. cfset maillist = cfoutput cfloop condition=counter lt 1000 cfif listlen(maillist) cfset maillist = maillist , [EMAIL PROTECTED] cfset counter = counter +1 cfelse cfset maillist = [EMAIL PROTECTED] cfset counter = counter +1 /cfif /cfloop /cfoutput I then use cfmail to loop over the list and send me 1,000 messages. cfoutput cfloop list=#maillist# index=i cfmail to=#i# from= [EMAIL PROTECTED] subject=#getMessages.Subject# type=html server=MyExchangeServer p#getMessages.Title#/p #getMessages.Content# /cfmail The CF page runs in about 13 seconds. It then takes the exchange server about 17 minutes to send off the 1,000 messages. That's only 3529 messages an hour. There is no way in hell a spam house can be profitable sending out 3500 messages and hour. I get offers to send out 1 million emails for $150.00 all the time. At 3,500 an hour that would take over 285 hours (nearly 12 days). Something has got to be wrong. Note: I am not bulding this to send out spam. We are trying to send out a newsletter type email to 25,000 opt in users. Anyone got any ideas? Being the CF runs in 13 seconds I doubt it is on the cf side. Anyone familar with Windows Exchange server? Ken Ketsdever Web Developer www.BloodSource.org http://www.bloodsource.org/ (916) 453-3718 Confidentiality Notice: This message including any attachments is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete any copies of this message. ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Silver Sponsor - RUWebby http://www.ruwebby.com Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:188978 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CFMAIL and exchange server
Sorry to dredge up this old thread, but I was doing some work today that reminded me of the discussion. Now I'm more confused about this than ever. We mustn't be talking about the same thing. I was working on a cfmail template and sending myself dozens of email messages, one message per execution of the template (you guessed it, HTML formatted). In every case, I receive the message in my mail server's POP3 mailboxes INSTANTLY. So where's this inherent one minute delay? Is it new to CF 4.5? I'm running 4.0.1. Jim -Original Message- From: Howie Hamlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 8:13 PM Subject: Re: CFMAIL and exchange server ColdFusion checks the outgoing mail folder every minute...that's what the delay is. In 4.5 you can lower the checking interval to a minimum of 15 seconds. Regards, Howie - Original Message - From: Jim McAtee [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 8:39 PM Subject: Re: CFMAIL and exchange server Really? What is the one minute delay? I've always gotten mail almost instantly from templates using CFMAIL. (CF 3.x and 4.0.x) Jim -Original Message- From: Howie Hamlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 4:00 PM Subject: Re: CFMAIL and exchange server There's an inherent 1 minute delay in mail sending from CFMail (although in 4.5 you can lower the setting to 15 seconds). Add to that the delay for the mail server receiving and resending the mail and you could have a delay of 15 minutes. Also, CFMail sends mail serially which means that all queued mail is sent one at a time... Regards, Howie Hamlin -- inFusion Project Manager; On-Line Data Solutions, Inc. (631)737-4668 www.CoolFusion.com Please vote for iMS in the Most Innovative category here: *** http://www.sys-con.com/ColdFusion/readerschoice2000/ *** Check out inFusion Mail Server - the world's most configurable email server -- Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
Re: CFMAIL and exchange server
Hello Howie Am new to CF. I started this thread and still confused where I am getting a 15 minutue delay sending email from CF through Exchange. If you don't mind I have a couple of questions. 1st I Did a quick look for this 1 min setting your talking about.Could you tell me where it is for I check mine. I been through the admin and did not see it but have not search the docs or website to find if it's in some file out there. 2nd In on post you talk about the delay in exchange and about how in sends mail. Is it a fair test comparing CF to how mail goes from outlook express. From that software sending a message I get my messages in less then a minute. This is even the case when sending to address that is not part of the exchange server. So is it fair to compare the less then 1 minute for out look against the 15 minutes for my CF application. Thanks for the help learning lots David - Original Message - From: "Howie Hamlin" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 7:14 PM Subject: Re: CFMAIL and exchange server ColdFusion checks the outgoing mail folder every minute...that's what the delay is. In 4.5 you can lower the checking interval to a minimum of 15 seconds. Regards, Howie - Original Message - From: Jim McAtee [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 8:39 PM Subject: Re: CFMAIL and exchange server Really? What is the one minute delay? I've always gotten mail almost instantly from templates using CFMAIL. (CF 3.x and 4.0.x) Jim -Original Message- From: Howie Hamlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 4:00 PM Subject: Re: CFMAIL and exchange server There's an inherent 1 minute delay in mail sending from CFMail (although in 4.5 you can lower the setting to 15 seconds). Add to that the delay for the mail server receiving and resending the mail and you could have a delay of 15 minutes. Also, CFMail sends mail serially which means that all queued mail is sent one at a time... Regards, Howie Hamlin -- inFusion Project Manager; On-Line Data Solutions, Inc. (631)737-4668 www.CoolFusion.com Please vote for iMS in the Most Innovative category here: *** http://www.sys-con.com/ColdFusion/readerschoice2000/ *** Check out inFusion Mail Server - the world's most configurable email server -- Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
Re: CFMAIL and exchange server
- Original Message - From: David Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2000 10:54 AM Subject: Re: CFMAIL and exchange server Hello Howie Am new to CF. I started this thread and still confused where I am getting a 15 minutue delay sending email from CF through Exchange. If you don't mind I have a couple of questions. 1st I Did a quick look for this 1 min setting your talking about.Could you tell me where it is for I check mine. I been through the admin and did not see it but have not search the docs or website to find if it's in some file out there. This setting is only for cf4.5.1 (maybe 4.5 also but I'm not sure). It's under miscellaneous/mail/Spool Interval. 2nd In on post you talk about the delay in exchange and about how in sends mail. Is it a fair test comparing CF to how mail goes from outlook express. From that software sending a message I get my messages in less then a minute. This is even the case when sending to address that is not part of the exchange server. So is it fair to compare the less then 1 minute for out look against the 15 minutes for my CF application. Yes, that is a fair comparison. Both Outlook Express and CF would communicate with the Exchange server via SMTP. So, if you're only seeing a delay on CFMail then you would have to look at CFMail. Only deficiency with CFMail is that mail is sent from the mail spool serially using a single connection to the mail server. So, if you have a lot of mail in the spool then mail delivery would be delayed. It's the same as if you were sending a lot of outgoing mail from Outlook Express. Regards, Howie Thanks for the help learning lots David - Original Message - From: "Howie Hamlin" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 7:14 PM Subject: Re: CFMAIL and exchange server ColdFusion checks the outgoing mail folder every minute...that's what the delay is. In 4.5 you can lower the checking interval to a minimum of 15 seconds. Regards, Howie - Original Message - From: Jim McAtee [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 8:39 PM Subject: Re: CFMAIL and exchange server Really? What is the one minute delay? I've always gotten mail almost instantly from templates using CFMAIL. (CF 3.x and 4.0.x) Jim -Original Message- From: Howie Hamlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 4:00 PM Subject: Re: CFMAIL and exchange server There's an inherent 1 minute delay in mail sending from CFMail (although in 4.5 you can lower the setting to 15 seconds). Add to that the delay for the mail server receiving and resending the mail and you could have a delay of 15 minutes. Also, CFMail sends mail serially which means that all queued mail is sent one at a time... Regards, Howie Hamlin -- inFusion Project Manager; On-Line Data Solutions, Inc. (631)737-4668 www.CoolFusion.com Please vote for iMS in the Most Innovative category here: *** http://www.sys-con.com/ColdFusion/readerschoice2000/ *** Check out inFusion Mail Server - the world's most configurable email server -- Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
CFMAIL and exchange server
Hi all I have webbased email page and when the users creates a email everything works fine but there seems to be a 15 minute delay before the mail is sent. Right now my CF server and Exchange server on the same NT IIS box. My question is there a settings that is controlling this delay between the mail and CF servers. Thanks for all the help and useful information in the group. David Green -- Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
Re: CFMAIL and exchange server
There's an inherent 1 minute delay in mail sending from CFMail (although in 4.5 you can lower the setting to 15 seconds). Add to that the delay for the mail server receiving and resending the mail and you could have a delay of 15 minutes. Also, CFMail sends mail serially which means that all queued mail is sent one at a time... Regards, Howie Hamlin -- inFusion Project Manager; On-Line Data Solutions, Inc. (631)737-4668 www.CoolFusion.com Please vote for iMS in the Most Innovative category here: *** http://www.sys-con.com/ColdFusion/readerschoice2000/ *** Check out inFusion Mail Server - the world's most configurable email server - Original Message - From: David Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 1:00 PM Subject: CFMAIL and exchange server Hi all I have webbased email page and when the users creates a email everything works fine but there seems to be a 15 minute delay before the mail is sent. Right now my CF server and Exchange server on the same NT IIS box. My question is there a settings that is controlling this delay between the mail and CF servers. Thanks for all the help and useful information in the group. David Green -- Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
Re: CFMAIL and exchange server
Really? What is the one minute delay? I've always gotten mail almost instantly from templates using CFMAIL. (CF 3.x and 4.0.x) Jim -Original Message- From: Howie Hamlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 4:00 PM Subject: Re: CFMAIL and exchange server There's an inherent 1 minute delay in mail sending from CFMail (although in 4.5 you can lower the setting to 15 seconds). Add to that the delay for the mail server receiving and resending the mail and you could have a delay of 15 minutes. Also, CFMail sends mail serially which means that all queued mail is sent one at a time... Regards, Howie Hamlin -- inFusion Project Manager; On-Line Data Solutions, Inc. (631)737-4668 www.CoolFusion.com Please vote for iMS in the Most Innovative category here: *** http://www.sys-con.com/ColdFusion/readerschoice2000/ *** Check out inFusion Mail Server - the world's most configurable email server - Original Message - From: David Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 1:00 PM Subject: CFMAIL and exchange server Hi all I have webbased email page and when the users creates a email everything works fine but there seems to be a 15 minute delay before the mail is sent. Right now my CF server and Exchange server on the same NT IIS box. My question is there a settings that is controlling this delay between the mail and CF servers. Thanks for all the help and useful information in the group. David Green -- Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
Re: CFMAIL and exchange server
ColdFusion checks the outgoing mail folder every minute...that's what the delay is. In 4.5 you can lower the checking interval to a minimum of 15 seconds. Regards, Howie - Original Message - From: Jim McAtee [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 8:39 PM Subject: Re: CFMAIL and exchange server Really? What is the one minute delay? I've always gotten mail almost instantly from templates using CFMAIL. (CF 3.x and 4.0.x) Jim -Original Message- From: Howie Hamlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 4:00 PM Subject: Re: CFMAIL and exchange server There's an inherent 1 minute delay in mail sending from CFMail (although in 4.5 you can lower the setting to 15 seconds). Add to that the delay for the mail server receiving and resending the mail and you could have a delay of 15 minutes. Also, CFMail sends mail serially which means that all queued mail is sent one at a time... Regards, Howie Hamlin -- inFusion Project Manager; On-Line Data Solutions, Inc. (631)737-4668 www.CoolFusion.com Please vote for iMS in the Most Innovative category here: *** http://www.sys-con.com/ColdFusion/readerschoice2000/ *** Check out inFusion Mail Server - the world's most configurable email server -- Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
