RE: CFUNITED? What's the deal??
Although I attended CFUN last year (and it was definitely value for money), lets not forget, for those of us living in England, the price of the flight etc. also needs to be factored in to the overall price of attending (unless of course we get a discount :) ) Kola -Original Message- From: Jared Rypka-Hauer - CMG, LLC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 25 January 2005 07:47 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFUNITED? What's the deal?? http://www.cfunited.org/ It's in DC this year... J On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 01:00:16 -0500, Dwayne Cole [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where is it? -- Original Message -- From: Michael Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 22:07:22 -0500 Yes we are planning on providing lunch all 3 days and an open bar reception on Wed night. It is 50% longer and 75% bigger. Also we have moved to a hotel that is about 3 times bigger and much nicer that the DoubleTree (not that the DoubleTree is bad but it is too small for CFUNITED-05. With a 1000 people coming we want this to be the premier ColdFusion event of the year, bar none! - Michael Smith, TeraTech -- Continuum Media Group LLC Burnsville, MN 55337 http://www.web-relevant.com http://cfobjective.blogspot.com ~| Logware: a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:191661 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CFUNITED? What's the deal??
Hey, I second that ;) - You're looking at about $1500-2000 at least, on top of the spend for the day. However, I'm really quite keen to go.. Should be a gas. Martin Parry Macromedia Certified Developer http://www.BeetrootStreet.co.uk -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 25 January 2005 09:51 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFUNITED? What's the deal?? Although I attended CFUN last year (and it was definitely value for money), lets not forget, for those of us living in England, the price of the flight etc. also needs to be factored in to the overall price of attending (unless of course we get a discount :) ) ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:191663 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CFUNITED? What's the deal??
I just flew to Heathrow (plus a connection to Warsaw) in October for $700 on British Airways. I've seen better deals than that with more notice. Greg On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 09:43:05 -, Martin Parry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, I second that ;) - You're looking at about $1500-2000 at least, on top of the spend for the day. However, I'm really quite keen to go.. Should be a gas. Martin Parry Macromedia Certified Developer http://www.BeetrootStreet.co.uk -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 25 January 2005 09:51 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFUNITED? What's the deal?? Although I attended CFUN last year (and it was definitely value for money), lets not forget, for those of us living in England, the price of the flight etc. also needs to be factored in to the overall price of attending (unless of course we get a discount :) ) ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:191681 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CFUNITED? What's the deal??
Cool - I'll do some investigating. Martin Parry Macromedia Certified Developer http://www.BeetrootStreet.co.uk -Original Message- From: Greg Luce [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 25 January 2005 12:30 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFUNITED? What's the deal?? I just flew to Heathrow (plus a connection to Warsaw) in October for $700 on British Airways. I've seen better deals than that with more notice. Greg ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:191683 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CFUNITED? What's the deal??
I looked on Expedia the other night, a return flight was going to cost about £700!! Probably down to being right at the start of the summer holidays - i flew to Washington for a weekend in Sept and it cost me £200!! jb. Cool - I'll do some investigating. Martin Parry Macromedia Certified Developer http://www.BeetrootStreet.co.uk -Original Message- From: Greg Luce [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 25 January 2005 12:30 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFUNITED? What's the deal?? I just flew to Heathrow (plus a connection to Warsaw) in October for $700 on British Airways. I've seen better deals than that with more notice. Greg ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:191685 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CFUNITED? What's the deal??
Hey Michael, You do know that you have two different early early bird deadlines listed - one of which is Monday. I'm assuming that's the incorrect one, since there's no hotel information or anything yet. - Original Message - From: Michael Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 9:07 PM Subject: Re: CFUNITED? What's the deal?? Yes we are planning on providing lunch all 3 days and an open bar reception on Wed night. It is 50% longer and 75% bigger. Also we have moved to a hotel that is about 3 times bigger and much nicer that the DoubleTree (not that the DoubleTree is bad but it is too small for CFUNITED-05. With a 1000 people coming we want this to be the premier ColdFusion event of the year, bar none! - Michael Smith, TeraTech ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:191688 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CFUNITED? What's the deal??
Could we possibly move this to CF-Community as airfare isn't really CF related any more? Thanks, .pjf ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:191702 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CFUNITED? What's the deal??
Deanna The correct date is 2/25/05. We are in the middle of moving the site to its own domain and forgot to update the date. Sorry about that We plan to have the hotel code up next week too. - Michael Smith, TeraTech, Inc http://www.teratech.com/ Deanna Schneider wrote: Hey Michael, You do know that you have two different early early bird deadlines listed - one of which is Monday. I'm assuming that's the incorrect one, since there's no hotel information or anything yet. - Original Message - From: Michael Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 9:07 PM Subject: Re: CFUNITED? What's the deal?? Yes we are planning on providing lunch all 3 days and an open bar reception on Wed night. It is 50% longer and 75% bigger. Also we have moved to a hotel that is about 3 times bigger and much nicer that the DoubleTree (not that the DoubleTree is bad but it is too small for CFUNITED-05. With a 1000 people coming we want this to be the premier ColdFusion event of the year, bar none! - Michael Smith, TeraTech ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:191706 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CFUNITED? What's the deal??
Sean Corfield wrote:
The early bird price for Software Development West is over $530 a day.
php{con was nearly $500 a day (early bird). JavaOne is about $400 a
day I think. ASP.NET Connections is around $350 a day (early bird). So
it doesn't seem to matter whether we're talking 'free' technology or
'proprietary'.
Macromedia MAX is conspicuously missing from this breakdown. MAX breaks
down to about $725 per day. I personally like MAX, and would rather
attend it than CFFUN. But that was when MACR would allow attendees to
have MGM or Universal Studios to themselves on of the nights!
What about training courses? Cheaper? More expensive? TeraTech courses
are about $350 a day (very reasonable). Figleaf? About $500 a day. I
searched around and most ColdFusion training seems to range from $400
upward. Hal's Mach II course is about $600 a day (and well worth it,
BTW).
IMHO, Figleaf is worth every damned penny and then some. When I was just
starting out in '97 - '98, I had Steve Drucker, Charlie Aerhart, Simon
Horowith and Dave Watts as instructors for a wide range of courses. I've
never taken a class at TeraTech, but if I were in DC to take another,
I'd go to FigLeaf. I took a class at FigLeaf called CF Top Gun that
taught some cool techniques that some longtime developers don't even
think to use today!
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Re: CFUNITED? What's the deal??
Yes we are planning on providing lunch all 3 days and an open bar reception on Wed night. It is 50% longer and 75% bigger. Also we have moved to a hotel that is about 3 times bigger and much nicer that the DoubleTree (not that the DoubleTree is bad but it is too small for CFUNITED-05. With a 1000 people coming we want this to be the premier ColdFusion event of the year, bar none! - Michael Smith, TeraTech Rick Root wrote: I don't have a problem at all with CFUNITED's increased price. Last year it was overcrowded and too short... So now it's a day longer, which immediately adds 50% to the cost. And I think from the surveys last year, a lot of people were hoping to see some kind of food and drinks available in the morning... coffee, donuts, juice, etc... maybe they'll tack that on too. CFUN at $250 was a great deal. CFUNITED at $450 is still gonna be a great deal. - Rick -- Due to TeraTech's growth we are seeking winning sales people to sell custom software. For more details: http://www.teratech.com/index.cfm?go=About.JobDetailJobID=3 Michael Smith, TeraTech, Inc 405 E Gude Dr Ste 207, Rockville MD 20850 Voice: +1-301-424-3903 x110 Fax:301-762-8185 Web: http://www.teratech.com/sig/ Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 66057682 Winner in CFDJ awards Best Consulting. Member Team Fusebox. ~| Logware: a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:191642 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CFUNITED? What's the deal??
Where is it? -- Original Message -- From: Michael Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 22:07:22 -0500 Yes we are planning on providing lunch all 3 days and an open bar reception on Wed night. It is 50% longer and 75% bigger. Also we have moved to a hotel that is about 3 times bigger and much nicer that the DoubleTree (not that the DoubleTree is bad but it is too small for CFUNITED-05. With a 1000 people coming we want this to be the premier ColdFusion event of the year, bar none! - Michael Smith, TeraTech Rick Root wrote: I don't have a problem at all with CFUNITED's increased price. Last year it was overcrowded and too short... So now it's a day longer, which immediately adds 50% to the cost. And I think from the surveys last year, a lot of people were hoping to see some kind of food and drinks available in the morning... coffee, donuts, juice, etc... maybe they'll tack that on too. CFUN at $250 was a great deal. CFUNITED at $450 is still gonna be a great deal. - Rick -- Due to TeraTech's growth we are seeking winning sales people to sell custom software. For more details: http://www.teratech.com/index.cfm?go=About.JobDetailJobID=3 Michael Smith, TeraTech, Inc 405 E Gude Dr Ste 207, Rockville MD 20850 Voice: +1-301-424-3903 x110 Fax:301-762-8185 Web: http://www.teratech.com/sig/ Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 66057682 Winner in CFDJ awards Best Consulting. Member Team Fusebox. ~| Logware: a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:191652 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CFUNITED? What's the deal??
http://www.cfunited.org/ It's in DC this year... J On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 01:00:16 -0500, Dwayne Cole [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where is it? -- Original Message -- From: Michael Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 22:07:22 -0500 Yes we are planning on providing lunch all 3 days and an open bar reception on Wed night. It is 50% longer and 75% bigger. Also we have moved to a hotel that is about 3 times bigger and much nicer that the DoubleTree (not that the DoubleTree is bad but it is too small for CFUNITED-05. With a 1000 people coming we want this to be the premier ColdFusion event of the year, bar none! - Michael Smith, TeraTech -- Continuum Media Group LLC Burnsville, MN 55337 http://www.web-relevant.com http://cfobjective.blogspot.com ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:191655 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CFUNITED? What's the deal??
Does not seem like a bad deal to me, actually since I probably qualify
for student then it seems like a great deal to me ;) Too bad it
spans two days of school, one being the last day of the summer session
and then the other being the day of finals.
On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 12:17:46 -0500, Alex Sherwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sean Corfield wrote:
The early bird price for Software Development West is over $530 a day.
php{con was nearly $500 a day (early bird). JavaOne is about $400 a
day I think. ASP.NET Connections is around $350 a day (early bird). So
it doesn't seem to matter whether we're talking 'free' technology or
'proprietary'.
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RE: CFUNITED? What's the deal??
How do you get $725 per day? 3 days at $895 (early registration) should be
less than $725
-Original Message-
From: Alex Sherwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 12:18 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFUNITED? What's the deal??
Sean Corfield wrote:
The early bird price for Software Development West is over $530 a day.
php{con was nearly $500 a day (early bird). JavaOne is about $400 a
day I think. ASP.NET Connections is around $350 a day (early bird). So
it doesn't seem to matter whether we're talking 'free' technology or
'proprietary'.
Macromedia MAX is conspicuously missing from this breakdown. MAX breaks
down to about $725 per day. I personally like MAX, and would rather
attend it than CFFUN. But that was when MACR would allow attendees to
have MGM or Universal Studios to themselves on of the nights!
What about training courses? Cheaper? More expensive? TeraTech courses
are about $350 a day (very reasonable). Figleaf? About $500 a day. I
searched around and most ColdFusion training seems to range from $400
upward. Hal's Mach II course is about $600 a day (and well worth it,
BTW).
IMHO, Figleaf is worth every damned penny and then some. When I was just
starting out in '97 - '98, I had Steve Drucker, Charlie Aerhart, Simon
Horowith and Dave Watts as instructors for a wide range of courses. I've
never taken a class at TeraTech, but if I were in DC to take another,
I'd go to FigLeaf. I took a class at FigLeaf called CF Top Gun that
taught some cool techniques that some longtime developers don't even
think to use today!
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Re: CFUNITED? What's the deal??
Calvin Ward wrote:
How do you get $725 per day? 3 days at $895 (early registration) should be
less than $725
I used the regular registration price of $1100. About 1/2 of the
conference is CF-related, so I divided $1100 by 1.5 to get $725. The
math might be a little fuzzy, but you get the drift. I'd go to MAX over
CFFUN every year.
-Original Message-
From: Alex Sherwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 12:18 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFUNITED? What's the deal??
Sean Corfield wrote:
The early bird price for Software Development West is over $530 a day.
php{con was nearly $500 a day (early bird). JavaOne is about $400 a
day I think. ASP.NET Connections is around $350 a day (early bird). So
it doesn't seem to matter whether we're talking 'free' technology or
'proprietary'.
Macromedia MAX is conspicuously missing from this breakdown. MAX breaks
down to about $725 per day. I personally like MAX, and would rather
attend it than CFFUN. But that was when MACR would allow attendees to
have MGM or Universal Studios to themselves on of the nights!
What about training courses? Cheaper? More expensive? TeraTech courses
are about $350 a day (very reasonable). Figleaf? About $500 a day. I
searched around and most ColdFusion training seems to range from $400
upward. Hal's Mach II course is about $600 a day (and well worth it,
BTW).
IMHO, Figleaf is worth every damned penny and then some. When I was just
starting out in '97 - '98, I had Steve Drucker, Charlie Aerhart, Simon
Horowith and Dave Watts as instructors for a wide range of courses. I've
never taken a class at TeraTech, but if I were in DC to take another,
I'd go to FigLeaf. I took a class at FigLeaf called CF Top Gun that
taught some cool techniques that some longtime developers don't even
think to use today!
Just my unsolicited .02.
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Re: CFUNITED? What's the deal??
On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 14:09:44 -0500, Alex Sherwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Calvin Ward wrote: How do you get $725 per day? 3 days at $895 (early registration) should be less than $725 I used the regular registration price of $1100. About 1/2 of the conference is CF-related, so I divided $1100 by 1.5 to get $725. All the prices I quoted were early birds which makes MAX about $300 a day for all content. Bear in mind that parts of CFUN / CFUNITED also cover Flash / Flex so it isn't a 100% CF conference either. And, given the number of tracks at MAX, you can actually attend all CF, all the time which makes your 1/2 argument somewhat weaker. But thanx for adding MAX to the comparison - I was looking mostly at non-CF conferences by way of comparison. As for Figleaf, good to hear chops for them - I have no point of reference to compare them since I haven't attended their courses (nor TeraTech's). FWIW, I think $500 / day for training is a good deal anyway. -- Sean A Corfield -- http://www.corfield.org/ Team Fusebox -- http://www.fusebox.org/ Breeze Me! -- http://www.corfield.org/breezeme Got Gmail? -- I have 5 invites to give away! If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive. -- Margaret Atwood ~| Logware: a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:191573 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CFUNITED? What's the deal??
Well, since you've joined the .NET bus you wouldn't be interested in going anyway, right? Why don't you stop whining about ColdFusion and ColdFusion-related issues and crawl off into your Microsoft tent Will? On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 22:45:25 -0400, Will Tomlinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not usually a cheapo, and I've spent A LOT of money on my favorite profession. But has anyone seen what CFFUN 05 has become? I went last year and it was pretty good. Listened to Forta, Liotta, lots of great speakers. As I remember, it was about $250. Here's the price setup for this year. I definitely can't go this time. My budget will not allow it. :( Price Expires Cost 2/25/05 $449current price 4/31/05 $549 6/10/05 $649 Late$749 At the door $849 Am I wrong? or is this pure insanity?? ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:191476 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CFUNITED? What's the deal??
Well, since you've joined the .NET bus you wouldn't be interested in going anyway, right? Why don't you stop whining about ColdFusion and ColdFusion-related issues and crawl off into your Microsoft tent Will? I was told that I brought up some good valid points with my .NET post so there's no need to lash out at one of your own. It serves no purpose. Do you just want us to sit here silent? Never question anyone or anything? Never provoke something beyond group-think? I think that might be the problem here. You're so quickly offended, that there are no productive responses coming out. Will brings up controversial good point 1 attack him! Will brings up controversial good point 2 attack him. I'm a little guy, and there are a lot of little guys like me using CF. I'm just wondering who filled out the CF comment cards at CFFUN 04 and told them to double,triple, and quadruple the price next year. We little guys might not be able to make it! Instead of coming at me with a Red Herring attack, maybe you have some ideas on the matter? Will ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:191477 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CFUNITED? What's the deal??
I don't have a problem at all with CFUNITED's increased price. Last year it was overcrowded and too short... So now it's a day longer, which immediately adds 50% to the cost. And I think from the surveys last year, a lot of people were hoping to see some kind of food and drinks available in the morning... coffee, donuts, juice, etc... maybe they'll tack that on too. CFUN at $250 was a great deal. CFUNITED at $450 is still gonna be a great deal. - Rick -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.2 - Release Date: 1/21/2005 ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:191479 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CFUNITED? What's the deal??
I'm not usually a cheapo, and I've spent A LOT of money on my favorite profession. But has anyone seen what CFFUN 05 has become? I went last year and it was pretty good. Listened to Forta, Liotta, lots of great speakers. As I remember, it was about $250. Here's the price setup for this year. I definitely can't go this time. My budget will not allow it. :( They've extended the programs, doubled up a number of the speakers, added a day and moved to a facility large enough to hold the number of people anticipated to attend. If you'll remeber, many of the talks were shoving room only if you were less than 5 minutes early to the presentation. I also seem to recall last year seeing something about scholarships and other breaks. While I don't plan on taking advantage of that, if you're interested and truly strapped for cash you might look at that route. The conference is well worth the money and time to go IMO. Hatton ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:191480 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CFUNITED? What's the deal??
There is a list Discount Rates that were below the pricing. Group Rates Press Pass Government Rates Student Rates CFUG Members CFUN alumni Granted there isn't information listed on it yet, but I guessing most everyone that was there last year probably would be able to use the CFUN alumni. If not, just being a member to your local CFUG will also get you a break. ~| Logware: a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:191481 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CFUNITED? What's the deal??
All, While I do admit to being a little surprised prices went up as much as they did, it won't stop me from going. I think it may hurt attendance more that it isn't over a weekend anymore. Everyone felt that it needed to be three days, none of the presentations were repeated and we all missed speakers that we wanted to hear. The discounts are posted on the site: 10% off Corporate Group Rate - You must have three or more people in your group. A coupon code must be assigned to you before registering. $50 off regular price if you belong to a CFUG or if you have attended any previous CFUN conference Government rate is 15% off Student rate is $199 Rick Mason On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 10:38:18 -0400, Dave Epler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is a list Discount Rates that were below the pricing. Group Rates Press Pass Government Rates Student Rates CFUG Members CFUN alumni Granted there isn't information listed on it yet, but I guessing most everyone that was there last year probably would be able to use the CFUN alumni. If not, just being a member to your local CFUG will also get you a break. ~| Logware: a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:191482 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CFUNITED? What's the deal??
On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 06:12:54 -0400, Will Tomlinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, since you've joined the .NET bus you wouldn't be interested in going anyway, right? Why don't you stop whining about ColdFusion and ColdFusion-related issues and crawl off into your Microsoft tent Will? I was told that I brought up some good valid points with my .NET post so there's no need to lash out at one of your own. It serves no purpose. (Crawling out of my C# tent for some CF-Talk reading) One of the things that was mentioned on the .NET thread was that this is a list for CF users who have technical issues discuss. CF-Community is a perfect place to put messages, like this one, that concern CF but are not of a technical nature. If you post a message like this over there, you're likely to get a gentler reaction. -- For Tabs, Trees, and more, use the jComponents: http://clearsoftware.net/client/jComponents.cfm ~| Logware: a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:191483 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CFUNITED? What's the deal??
One of the things that was mentioned on the .NET thread was that this is a list for CF users who have technical issues discuss. CF-Community is a perfect place to put messages, like this one, that concern CF but are not of a technical nature. If you post a message like this over there, you're likely to get a gentler reaction. Joe, I just can't sign up with cf-community. I'm sorry for posting topics such as this in cf-talk, but I think it's close enough to technical to post here. Plus, I can't get past this statement from HoF. DO NOT subscribe to CF-Community unless you want a lot of mail talking about muffins, games, politics, cars, news or other strange things. Will ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:191484 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CFUNITED? What's the deal??
They've extended the programs, doubled up a number of the speakers, added a day and moved to a facility large enough to hold the number of people anticipated to attend. Points well taken! I'm looking at $400 then. Maybe I should write them and tell them to make the improvements to the event more prominent on the site. I'll try to make it happen if I can. And no, if you see me there I WON'T be wearing a .NET t-shirt!! I promise!! :) Will ~| Logware: a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:191485 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CFUNITED? What's the deal??
Will Tomlinson wrote: Joe, I just can't sign up with cf-community. It is very easy: you sign up, confirm, log in, switch off receiving messages through mail and post and read your messages through the archives which allows you to ignore everything but the threads you started yourself. Jochem ~| Logware: a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:191486 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CFUNITED? What's the deal??
On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 06:12:54 -0400, Will Tomlinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Do you just want us to sit here silent? Never question anyone or anything?
No, but you seem to just complain about ColdFusion and
ColdFusion-related things. Instead of complaining that you can't
afford a few hundred dollars to improve your skills (really?) you come
out, guns blazing, implying the conference organizers are insane.
Let's look at those prices...
CFUNITED is a three day conference so the early bird price is $150 a
day and it offers seven tracks. Last year about 600 people attended
and the overall feedback from them was More! More! More! - more
space, more speakers, more topics. Even if you turn up on the day,
it's less than $300 a day.
The early bird price for Software Development West is over $530 a day.
php{con was nearly $500 a day (early bird). JavaOne is about $400 a
day I think. ASP.NET Connections is around $350 a day (early bird). So
it doesn't seem to matter whether we're talking 'free' technology or
'proprietary'.
What about training courses? Cheaper? More expensive? TeraTech courses
are about $350 a day (very reasonable). Figleaf? About $500 a day. I
searched around and most ColdFusion training seems to range from $400
upward. Hal's Mach II course is about $600 a day (and well worth it,
BTW).
I'm a little guy, and there are a lot of little guys like me using CF. I'm
just wondering who filled out the CF comment cards at CFFUN 04 and told them
to double,triple, and quadruple the price next year. We little guys might not
be able to make it!
You won't invest in improving your skills? Don't see any ROI on
training and conferences? Isn't that a little short-sighted?
What about the networking opportunities? Connecting with other CFers
opens up more work opportunities.
Instead of coming at me with a Red Herring attack, maybe you have some ideas
on the matter?
The price wasn't even a blip on the scale as far as I was concerned -
last year's price was just ridiculously low, in my opinion - so the
only idea I had on the matter was that it's a very reasonable
package.
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Re: CFUNITED? What's the deal??
Or simply read the archives. Will Tomlinson wrote: Joe, I just can't sign up with cf-community. It is very easy: you sign up, confirm, log in, switch off receiving messages through mail and post and read your messages through the archives which allows you to ignore everything but the threads you started yourself. Jochem ~| Logware: a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:191489 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CFUNITED? What's the deal??
On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 12:15:12 -0400, Will Tomlinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll try to make it happen if I can. And no, if you see me there I WON'T be wearing a .NET t-shirt!! I promise!! :) Heh, if you make it to CFUNITED I'll buy you a beer... -- Sean A Corfield -- http://www.corfield.org/ Team Fusebox -- http://www.fusebox.org/ Breeze Me! -- http://www.corfield.org/breezeme Got Gmail? -- I have 5 invites to give away! If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive. -- Margaret Atwood ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:191490 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CFUNITED? What's the deal??
My only complaint is that the early bird special ends in about a month and I have not see the tracks ect yet, I would be willing to bet I am just overlooking the link but none the less I can not talk Management into footing the bill unless I have something more than..I went there last year with my old company and walked away with a lot of cool knowledge, not to mention a pocekt knife that was taken away from me in the airport (just kidding I still have it somewhere). Adam H On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 11:26:48 -0800, Sean Corfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 12:15:12 -0400, Will Tomlinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll try to make it happen if I can. And no, if you see me there I WON'T be wearing a .NET t-shirt!! I promise!! :) Heh, if you make it to CFUNITED I'll buy you a beer... -- Sean A Corfield -- http://www.corfield.org/ Team Fusebox -- http://www.fusebox.org/ Breeze Me! -- http://www.corfield.org/breezeme Got Gmail? -- I have 5 invites to give away! If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive. -- Margaret Atwood ~| Logware: a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:191492 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CFUNITED? What's the deal??
At 04:01 PM 1/23/2005, you wrote: I'm a little guy, and there are a lot of little guys like me using CF. I'm just wondering who filled out the CF comment cards at CFFUN 04 and told them to double,triple, and quadruple the price next year. We little guys might not be able to make it! You won't invest in improving your skills? Don't see any ROI on training and conferences? Isn't that a little short-sighted? Many people learn in different ways. I personally see very little ROI for conference lectures, because I don't learn well in class-room type situations. What about the networking opportunities? Connecting with other CFers opens up more work opportunities. Networking opportunities on the other hand are my favorite part of the conference without a doubt. -- Jeffry Houser, Web Developer, Writer, Songwriter, Recording Engineer AIM: Reboog711 | Phone: 1-203-379-0773 -- My Books: http://www.instantcoldfusion.com My Recording Studio: http://www.fcfstudios.com My Energetic Acoustic Rock Band: http://www.farcryfly.com -- When did Reality Become TV ~| Logware: a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:191493 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CFUNITED? What's the deal??
No, but you seem to just complain about ColdFusion and ColdFusion-related things. Instead of complaining that you can't afford a few hundred dollars to improve your skills (really?) you come out, guns blazing, implying the conference organizers are insane. I agree it looks like it's well worth the price. I hadn't read the fine print on the bottom of the page about the improvements to the event. I thought it was great last year, and sounds like it'll be better this year. Man, I invest so much in what I do, and I don't mind because to me, CF is an adrenaline rush. It's just that to a small-timer like me, $450 is a good chunk of change. Now I realize it will be $400 since I attended last year, and that helps. I'm just gonna have to hunker down and make some extra $$$ for this. Thank you for the info! Will ~| Logware: a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:191496 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CFUNITED? What's the deal??
I have never been to any of these meetings, just wondering.. 1. How many of these events are there? Names and locations? 2. Did CFFUN change Names to CFUNITED? Thanks, Joe Eugene -Original Message- From: Sean Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2005 2:27 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFUNITED? What's the deal?? On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 12:15:12 -0400, Will Tomlinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll try to make it happen if I can. And no, if you see me there I WON'T be wearing a .NET t-shirt!! I promise!! :) Heh, if you make it to CFUNITED I'll buy you a beer... -- Sean A Corfield -- http://www.corfield.org/ Team Fusebox -- http://www.fusebox.org/ Breeze Me! -- http://www.corfield.org/breezeme Got Gmail? -- I have 5 invites to give away! If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive. -- Margaret Atwood ~| Logware: a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:191497 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CFUNITED? What's the deal??
Heh, if you make it to CFUNITED I'll buy you a beer... Now we're talkin motivation!! Coors Light!hang onWhat about a long Island Tea? You good for it?? :) ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:191499 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CFUNITED? What's the deal??
I think the biggest thing that IRKED me about last year was they only gave Forta 45 minutes to speak! The man can talk about the subject of CF for 24 hours STRAIGHT! He got only 45 minutes? Better be longer this year. ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:191500 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CFUNITED? What's the deal??
another good reason to go to cfug is ben gets a few hours to speak ;) From: Will Tomlinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2005 9:53 PM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: Re: CFUNITED? What's the deal?? I think the biggest thing that IRKED me about last year was they only gave Forta 45 minutes to speak! The man can talk about the subject of CF for 24 hours STRAIGHT! He got only 45 minutes? Better be longer this year. ~| Logware: a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:191501 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CFUNITED? What's the deal??
Irked, huh? Thanks man. :-) Actually, to be very fair to Mike and his crew, part of the problem was I could not be their Saturday and the earliest flight Sunday was not as early as I'd have liked. So while I'd have loved to have more time, the fact that I showed up a few hours before CFUN ended did not help. But, with non weekend dates this year ... who knows. --- Ben -Original Message- From: Will Tomlinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2005 8:54 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFUNITED? What's the deal?? I think the biggest thing that IRKED me about last year was they only gave Forta 45 minutes to speak! The man can talk about the subject of CF for 24 hours STRAIGHT! He got only 45 minutes? Better be longer this year. ~| Logware: a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:191505 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CFUNITED? What's the deal??
On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 21:45:15 -0500, Joe Eugene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. How many of these events are there? Names and locations? The biggest CF event is CFUN / CFUNITED. Other non-MM conferences in the US tend to be mxitures of CF and Flash most often (Powered By Detroit, for example). There has been a Denver-based CF On The Rocks conference in the past I believe - anyone got any details of that? Jared Rypka-Hauer blogged that he's trying to pull together something in the Midwest in 2006 under the tentative name of cf.objective I think. 2. Did CFFUN change Names to CFUNITED? Yes, if you go to http://www.cfconf.org/CFUN-05/ you'll see the name change announced. -- Sean A Corfield -- http://www.corfield.org/ Team Fusebox -- http://www.fusebox.org/ Breeze Me! -- http://www.corfield.org/breezeme Got Gmail? -- I have 5 invites to give away! If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive. -- Margaret Atwood ~| Logware: a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:191510 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CFUNITED? What's the deal??
(blushing) Sean, plugging my pet project... how sweet of you! Yeah, I'm trying to assemble interest: speakers, attendees, sponsors. It's a dream, but I've actually had some positive response thus far. Positive, but limited. We've got a really strong CF community here, as Ben can attest. Ben and Hal Helms have both been here, probably among others of note in the ranks. So we've got enough local audience to put something together, I just want it to be somewhat more than that. So, cf.Objective 2006 would be slotted sometime during the year when either the conflict with other events would be at a minimum (CFUnited, MAX, fusebox 2005, etc.) or its coincidence with another local event. My focus for the conference is on CF and object-orientation (as the name would indicate), application design with a special CF-focus, frameworks, patterns, UML, modeling, etc., which are all things that the CF Community has a really growing interest in... I think it's important we foster that interest. I've set up a special gmail account at [EMAIL PROTECTED] for interested parties, and there's a couple entries on my blog at http://cfobjective.blogspot.com... so if you're interested or have something to say either comment me on the blog or email me at the account. I'll be setting up a central point of communication for it once I get a really good feel for how it will take off. I told my dad I'd hold it in the family room if I have to, so I know I must commited. Let me know what ya think... Laterz, J On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 20:27:11 -0800, Sean Corfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 21:45:15 -0500, Joe Eugene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. How many of these events are there? Names and locations? The biggest CF event is CFUN / CFUNITED. Other non-MM conferences in the US tend to be mxitures of CF and Flash most often (Powered By Detroit, for example). There has been a Denver-based CF On The Rocks conference in the past I believe - anyone got any details of that? Jared Rypka-Hauer blogged that he's trying to pull together something in the Midwest in 2006 under the tentative name of cf.objective I think. 2. Did CFFUN change Names to CFUNITED? Yes, if you go to http://www.cfconf.org/CFUN-05/ you'll see the name change announced. -- Sean A Corfield -- http://www.corfield.org/ Team Fusebox -- http://www.fusebox.org/ Breeze Me! -- http://www.corfield.org/breezeme Got Gmail? -- I have 5 invites to give away! If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive. -- Margaret Atwood -- Continuum Media Group LLC Burnsville, MN 55337 http://www.web-relevant.com http://cfobjective.blogspot.com ~| Logware: a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:191513 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
CFUNITED? What's the deal??
I'm not usually a cheapo, and I've spent A LOT of money on my favorite profession. But has anyone seen what CFFUN 05 has become? I went last year and it was pretty good. Listened to Forta, Liotta, lots of great speakers. As I remember, it was about $250. Here's the price setup for this year. I definitely can't go this time. My budget will not allow it. :( Price Expires Cost 2/25/05 $449current price 4/31/05 $549 6/10/05 $649 Late$749 At the door $849 Am I wrong? or is this pure insanity?? Will ~| Logware: a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:191473 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
