Re: Coldfusion 10 automatic updates not working

2013-02-08 Thread Jeff Carpenter

Thanks for your help.  We have solved the issue, I will post the solution here 
if it helps anyone in the future. The error message logged in the hotfix log 
file  (Eg: C:\ColdFusion10\cfusion\hf-updates\hf-10-7) is the following:

Failed to copy hotfix files:C:\Users\xxx\002873.tmp\dist\cfusion
Status: FATAL ERROR
Additional Notes: FATAL ERROR - Failed to copy the hotfix files to the target 
location:C:\ColdFusion10\cfusion
FATAL ERROR - C:\ColdFusion10\cfusion\bin\coldfusion.exe (The process cannot 
access the file because it is being used by another process)

Several blog posts refer to permission problems, such as making sure the 
account under which CF10 runs has local admin access, or that the cfusion 
directory have appropriate permissions.  We had tried these solutions, and 
several variations without luck. We had also stopped all CF services and 
applied the HF manually but the same error persisted.

In our case, we renamed coldfusion.exe notated in the error log above, applied 
the hotfix, and everything worked. So, I don't believe it was really a 
permissions issue but rather (as the error log was trying to tell us), that the 
coldfusion.exe was in use.


> We are installing CF10 Enterprise on Windows 2008 RC2 with IIS 7.
> We installed using all default selections, straight-forward 
> installation, and applied the mandatory update. So far, so good. When 
> we go to the updates page for automatic updates for the latest current 
> hotfix 7 (at the time of this post), which is cumulative, the install 
> and download process runs fine, the instance restarts, but then when 
> we check again to see the available updates, it shows all the updates 
> from 1 to 7 again, as if we didn't apply the updates at all. Installed 
> updates tab shows no updates having been applied. However, looking at 
> the system info page, the udpate level shows HF7.
> 
> We tried a variation, applying one hotfix at a time. This worked 
> through hot fix 2, but after applying HF 4, it 'froze' there with the 
> same problem as described above, not showing any fixes having been 
> applied after HF 2. This is incredibly frustrating. I have no idea if 
> HF's have been applied, and am not sure what to think about the sys 
> info page indicating hotfix level. We are still living in CF update 
> hell. Any ideas appreciated!
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Jeff 

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Re: Coldfusion 10 automatic updates not working

2013-02-07 Thread Andrew Scott

Jeff, the fact that you are getting the file is in use tells you that the
ColdFusion Windows Service is still running. This means that you may have
to even stop every instance to apply the updates as well.


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On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 3:28 PM, Jeff Carpenter wrote:

>
> It is a test server, we are installing CF enterprise on Windows 2008 RC2.
>
> > That's exactly what I was suggesting you do.  After you set the
> > ColdFusion service to run as your account, did you stop and restart
> > the
> > service?  That is necessary for the Administrator permissions to be
> > granted to the ColdFusion service.  Then, after the updates are
> > installed (assuming they do install successfully), switch the service
> >
> > back to the local system account and stop/restart it again.
> >
> > Since you are running as local service, is this your local development
> >
> > machine or your production server?  Just curious.
> > -Carl V.
>


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Re: Coldfusion 10 automatic updates not working

2013-02-07 Thread Jeff Carpenter

It is a test server, we are installing CF enterprise on Windows 2008 RC2. 

> That's exactly what I was suggesting you do.  After you set the 
> ColdFusion service to run as your account, did you stop and restart 
> the 
> service?  That is necessary for the Administrator permissions to be 
> granted to the ColdFusion service.  Then, after the updates are 
> installed (assuming they do install successfully), switch the service 
> 
> back to the local system account and stop/restart it again.
> 
> Since you are running as local service, is this your local development 
> 
> machine or your production server?  Just curious.
> -Carl V.
> 
> On 2/7/2013 2:40 PM, Jeff Carpenter wrote:
> > I am not sure I follow.  The "ColdFusion 10 Application Server" 
> service is set to Log on with the local system account. I tried 
> changing this to log on as my own login account, which is a member of 
> the local administrators.  I still was not able to logon.
> >

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Re: Coldfusion 10 automatic updates not working

2013-02-07 Thread Andrew Scott

If you are getting the being used by another permission then it is related,
you will need to make sure ColdFusion is stopped and wait a bit.

To make sure check the Windows Service and wait until it has stopped before
trying again.

Is this a standard ColdFusion installation or is it multi server.

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On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 10:37 AM, Jeff Carpenter wrote:

>
> @Carl
> Thanks, yes I had done this earlier and restarted the service, still same
> issue.
> The HF log indicates the following:
>
>
> Failed to copy hotfix files:C:\Users\xxx\478130.tmp\dist\cfusion
> FATAL ERROR - Failed to copy the hotfix files to the target
> location:C:\ColdFusion10\cfusion
> FATAL ERROR - C:\ColdFusion10\cfusion\bin\coldfusion.exe (The process
> cannot access the file because it is being used by another process)
>
> @Andrew, Thanks, I did try what you suggested on your blog, but still
> seeing the same problem.
>
> Since this does appear to be permissions related, I will talk with one of
> our NW admins to see if I am configuring the accounts/permissions correctly.
>
> Thanks
>
> > That's exactly what I was suggesting you do.  After you set the
> > ColdFusion service to run as your account, did you stop and restart
> > the
> > service?  That is necessary for the Administrator permissions to be
> > granted to the ColdFusion service.  Then, after the updates are
> > installed (assuming they do install successfully), switch the service
> >
> > back to the local system account and stop/restart it again.
> >
> > Since you are running as local service, is this your local development
> >
> > machine or your production server?  Just curious.
> > -Carl V.
> >
> > On 2/7/2013 2:40 PM, Jeff Carpenter wrote:
> > > I am not sure I follow.  The "ColdFusion 10 Application Server"
> > service is set to Log on with the local system account. I tried
> > changing this to log on as my own login account, which is a member of
> > the local administrators.  I still was not able to logon.
> > >
>
> 

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Re: Coldfusion 10 automatic updates not working

2013-02-07 Thread Jeff Carpenter

@Carl
Thanks, yes I had done this earlier and restarted the service, still same issue.
The HF log indicates the following:


Failed to copy hotfix files:C:\Users\xxx\478130.tmp\dist\cfusion
FATAL ERROR - Failed to copy the hotfix files to the target 
location:C:\ColdFusion10\cfusion
FATAL ERROR - C:\ColdFusion10\cfusion\bin\coldfusion.exe (The process cannot 
access the file because it is being used by another process)

@Andrew, Thanks, I did try what you suggested on your blog, but still seeing 
the same problem.

Since this does appear to be permissions related, I will talk with one of our 
NW admins to see if I am configuring the accounts/permissions correctly.

Thanks

> That's exactly what I was suggesting you do.  After you set the 
> ColdFusion service to run as your account, did you stop and restart 
> the 
> service?  That is necessary for the Administrator permissions to be 
> granted to the ColdFusion service.  Then, after the updates are 
> installed (assuming they do install successfully), switch the service 
> 
> back to the local system account and stop/restart it again.
> 
> Since you are running as local service, is this your local development 
> 
> machine or your production server?  Just curious.
> -Carl V.
> 
> On 2/7/2013 2:40 PM, Jeff Carpenter wrote:
> > I am not sure I follow.  The "ColdFusion 10 Application Server" 
> service is set to Log on with the local system account. I tried 
> changing this to log on as my own login account, which is a member of 
> the local administrators.  I still was not able to logon.
> > 

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Re: Coldfusion 10 automatic updates not working

2013-02-07 Thread Andrew Scott

Try this as it sounds like it is related.

http://www.andyscott.id.au/blog/update-coldfusion-10-windows-82012-update-and-not-updating



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On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 12:44 AM, Jeff Carpenter wrote:

>
> We are installing CF10 Enterprise on Windows 2008 RC2 with IIS 7.
> We installed using all default selections, straight-forward installation,
> and applied the mandatory update. So far, so good. When we go to the
> updates page for automatic updates for the latest current hotfix 7 (at the
> time of this post), which is cumulative, the install and download process
> runs fine, the instance restarts, but then when we check again to see the
> available updates, it shows all the updates from 1 to 7 again, as if we
> didn't apply the updates at all. Installed updates tab shows no updates
> having been applied. However, looking at the system info page, the udpate
> level shows HF7.
>
> We tried a variation, applying one hotfix at a time. This worked through
> hot fix 2, but after applying HF 4, it 'froze' there with the same problem
> as described above, not showing any fixes having been applied after HF 2.
> This is incredibly frustrating. I have no idea if HF's have been applied,
> and am not sure what to think about the sys info page indicating hotfix
> level. We are still living in CF update hell. Any ideas appreciated!
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jeff
>
> 

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Re: Coldfusion 10 automatic updates not working

2013-02-07 Thread Carl Von Stetten

That's exactly what I was suggesting you do.  After you set the 
ColdFusion service to run as your account, did you stop and restart the 
service?  That is necessary for the Administrator permissions to be 
granted to the ColdFusion service.  Then, after the updates are 
installed (assuming they do install successfully), switch the service 
back to the local system account and stop/restart it again.

Since you are running as local service, is this your local development 
machine or your production server?  Just curious.
-Carl V.

On 2/7/2013 2:40 PM, Jeff Carpenter wrote:
> I am not sure I follow.  The "ColdFusion 10 Application Server" service is 
> set to Log on with the local system account. I tried changing this to log on 
> as my own login account, which is a member of the local administrators.  I 
> still was not able to logon.
>


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Re: Coldfusion 10 automatic updates not working

2013-02-07 Thread Jeff Carpenter

Sorry, I meant to say that I was still not able to apply updates.

> I am not sure I follow.  The "ColdFusion 10 Application Server" 
> service is set to Log on with the local system account. I tried 
> changing this to log on as my own login account, which is a member of 
> the local administrators.  I still was not able to logon.
> 
> > Steven,
> > 
> > I guess I should have added that once the updates are installed, 
> > remove 
> > the service account from Administrators.  And this solution is only 
> a 
> > 
> > workaround, mind you.  I don't believe this **should** be necessary, 
> 
> > but 
> > it has been for me.
> > 
> > I've followed the lockdown guides, including granting the ColdFusion 
> 
> > service account "full" permissions to the entire /ColdFusion10 
> folder 
> > 
> > structure.  Updates since update 2 have not installed without 
> > installing 
> > with "Administrator" group rights.
> > 
> > -Carl V.
> > 
> > On 2/7/2013 7:53 AM, DURETTE, STEVEN J wrote:
> > > And yet I believe that would go against the "lockdown" guides... 
> So 
> > our options are easy updates or secure systems?
> > 

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Re: Coldfusion 10 automatic updates not working

2013-02-07 Thread Jeff Carpenter

I am not sure I follow.  The "ColdFusion 10 Application Server" service is set 
to Log on with the local system account. I tried changing this to log on as my 
own login account, which is a member of the local administrators.  I still was 
not able to logon.

> Steven,
> 
> I guess I should have added that once the updates are installed, 
> remove 
> the service account from Administrators.  And this solution is only a 
> 
> workaround, mind you.  I don't believe this **should** be necessary, 
> but 
> it has been for me.
> 
> I've followed the lockdown guides, including granting the ColdFusion 
> service account "full" permissions to the entire /ColdFusion10 folder 
> 
> structure.  Updates since update 2 have not installed without 
> installing 
> with "Administrator" group rights.
> 
> -Carl V.
> 
> On 2/7/2013 7:53 AM, DURETTE, STEVEN J wrote:
> > And yet I believe that would go against the "lockdown" guides... So 
> our options are easy updates or secure systems?
> 

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Re: Coldfusion 10 automatic updates not working

2013-02-07 Thread Carl Von Stetten

Steven,

I guess I should have added that once the updates are installed, remove 
the service account from Administrators.  And this solution is only a 
workaround, mind you.  I don't believe this **should** be necessary, but 
it has been for me.

I've followed the lockdown guides, including granting the ColdFusion 
service account "full" permissions to the entire /ColdFusion10 folder 
structure.  Updates since update 2 have not installed without installing 
with "Administrator" group rights.

-Carl V.

On 2/7/2013 7:53 AM, DURETTE, STEVEN J wrote:
> And yet I believe that would go against the "lockdown" guides... So our 
> options are easy updates or secure systems?
>

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RE: Coldfusion 10 automatic updates not working

2013-02-07 Thread DURETTE, STEVEN J

And yet I believe that would go against the "lockdown" guides... So our options 
are easy updates or secure systems?



-Original Message-
From: Carl Von Stetten [mailto:vonner.li...@vonner.net] 
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 10:52 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Coldfusion 10 automatic updates not working


This is a common issue reported on the Adobe ColdFusion forums.  The 
only solution I have found to work reliably for me (and I'm on the same 
OS and web server) is to make sure that the service account ColdFusion 
is running under is a member of the local Administrators group.  You may 
also want to restart the ColdFusion service after putting the account in 
the Administrators group.

-Carl V.




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Re: Coldfusion 10 automatic updates not working

2013-02-07 Thread Carl Von Stetten

This is a common issue reported on the Adobe ColdFusion forums.  The 
only solution I have found to work reliably for me (and I'm on the same 
OS and web server) is to make sure that the service account ColdFusion 
is running under is a member of the local Administrators group.  You may 
also want to restart the ColdFusion service after putting the account in 
the Administrators group.

-Carl V.


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Coldfusion 10 automatic updates not working

2013-02-07 Thread Jeff Carpenter

We are installing CF10 Enterprise on Windows 2008 RC2 with IIS 7.
We installed using all default selections, straight-forward installation, and 
applied the mandatory update. So far, so good. When we go to the updates page 
for automatic updates for the latest current hotfix 7 (at the time of this 
post), which is cumulative, the install and download process runs fine, the 
instance restarts, but then when we check again to see the available updates, 
it shows all the updates from 1 to 7 again, as if we didn't apply the updates 
at all. Installed updates tab shows no updates having been applied. However, 
looking at the system info page, the udpate level shows HF7.

We tried a variation, applying one hotfix at a time. This worked through hot 
fix 2, but after applying HF 4, it 'froze' there with the same problem as 
described above, not showing any fixes having been applied after HF 2. This is 
incredibly frustrating. I have no idea if HF's have been applied, and am not 
sure what to think about the sys info page indicating hotfix level. We are 
still living in CF update hell. Any ideas appreciated!

Thanks,

Jeff 

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