Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use
I found this graph a while back, and I am looking to see if there are any other sites that show the graph of technology use that is more up to date? http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2004/03/23/aspnet_overtakes_jsp_and_java_servlets.html I am trying to get some figures on overall usage of CF on websites. Anybody got something like that knocking round? -- Mark Drew coldfusion and cfeclipse blogged: http://cybersonic.blogspot.com/ fusebox plugin for cfeclipse: http://cfopen.org/projects/fusebox3cfe/ ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193051 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use
index.cfm: about 17,600,000 index.asp: about 16,600,000 Looks like an open and shut case. :) Cheers Bert ps and after a quick check (google on site:www.mysite.com) i reckon about 4% of those 17 million are mine! On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 10:59:48 +, Mark Drew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I found this graph a while back, and I am looking to see if there are any other sites that show the graph of technology use that is more up to date? http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2004/03/23/aspnet_overtakes_jsp_and_java_servlets.html I am trying to get some figures on overall usage of CF on websites. Anybody got something like that knocking round? -- Mark Drew coldfusion and cfeclipse blogged: http://cybersonic.blogspot.com/ fusebox plugin for cfeclipse: http://cfopen.org/projects/fusebox3cfe/ ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193059 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use
And keep in mind that over 80% of CF use is internal stuff, behind firewalls, stuff Google will never see. --- Ben -Original Message- From: Bert Dawson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 8:43 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use index.cfm: about 17,600,000 index.asp: about 16,600,000 Looks like an open and shut case. :) Cheers Bert ps and after a quick check (google on site:www.mysite.com) i reckon about 4% of those 17 million are mine! On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 10:59:48 +, Mark Drew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I found this graph a while back, and I am looking to see if there are any other sites that show the graph of technology use that is more up to date? http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2004/03/23/aspnet_overtakes_jsp_and_ java_servlets.html I am trying to get some figures on overall usage of CF on websites. Anybody got something like that knocking round? -- Mark Drew coldfusion and cfeclipse blogged: http://cybersonic.blogspot.com/ fusebox plugin for cfeclipse: http://cfopen.org/projects/fusebox3cfe/ ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193062 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use
How about .aspx? -Original Message- From: Ben Forta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 8:48 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use And keep in mind that over 80% of CF use is internal stuff, behind firewalls, stuff Google will never see. --- Ben -Original Message- From: Bert Dawson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 8:43 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use index.cfm: about 17,600,000 index.asp: about 16,600,000 Looks like an open and shut case. :) Cheers Bert ps and after a quick check (google on site:www.mysite.com) i reckon about 4% of those 17 million are mine! On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 10:59:48 +, Mark Drew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I found this graph a while back, and I am looking to see if there are any other sites that show the graph of technology use that is more up to date? http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2004/03/23/aspnet_overtakes_jsp_and_ java_servlets.html I am trying to get some figures on overall usage of CF on websites. Anybody got something like that knocking round? -- Mark Drew coldfusion and cfeclipse blogged: http://cybersonic.blogspot.com/ fusebox plugin for cfeclipse: http://cfopen.org/projects/fusebox3cfe/ ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193063 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use
And the fact the asp uses Default.asp a lot of the time. -Original Message- From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 February 2005 13:51 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use How about .aspx? -Original Message- From: Ben Forta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 8:48 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use And keep in mind that over 80% of CF use is internal stuff, behind firewalls, stuff Google will never see. --- Ben -Original Message- From: Bert Dawson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 8:43 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use index.cfm: about 17,600,000 index.asp: about 16,600,000 Looks like an open and shut case. :) Cheers Bert ps and after a quick check (google on site:www.mysite.com) i reckon about 4% of those 17 million are mine! On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 10:59:48 +, Mark Drew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I found this graph a while back, and I am looking to see if there are any other sites that show the graph of technology use that is more up to date? http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2004/03/23/aspnet_overtakes_jsp_and_ java_servlets.html I am trying to get some figures on overall usage of CF on websites. Anybody got something like that knocking round? -- Mark Drew coldfusion and cfeclipse blogged: http://cybersonic.blogspot.com/ fusebox plugin for cfeclipse: http://cfopen.org/projects/fusebox3cfe/ ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193070 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use
Recall that many asp sites use default.asp ... not index.asp, whereas CF's index.cfm is far more standard. -Mark -Original Message- From: Ben Forta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 7:48 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use And keep in mind that over 80% of CF use is internal stuff, behind firewalls, stuff Google will never see. --- Ben -Original Message- From: Bert Dawson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 8:43 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use index.cfm: about 17,600,000 index.asp: about 16,600,000 Looks like an open and shut case. :) Cheers Bert ps and after a quick check (google on site:www.mysite.com) i reckon about 4% of those 17 million are mine! On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 10:59:48 +, Mark Drew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I found this graph a while back, and I am looking to see if there are any other sites that show the graph of technology use that is more up to date? http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2004/03/23/aspnet_overtakes_jsp_and_ java_servlets.html I am trying to get some figures on overall usage of CF on websites. Anybody got something like that knocking round? -- Mark Drew coldfusion and cfeclipse blogged: http://cybersonic.blogspot.com/ fusebox plugin for cfeclipse: http://cfopen.org/projects/fusebox3cfe/ ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193078 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use
How about a google search just for the file extension? Results 1 - 10 of about 82,700,000 for inurl:.aspx. (0.08 seconds) Results 1 - 10 of about 129,000,000 for inurl:.cfm. (0.28 seconds) -Original Message- From: Mark A Kruger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 10:01 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use Recall that many asp sites use default.asp ... not index.asp, whereas CF's index.cfm is far more standard. -Mark -Original Message- From: Ben Forta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 7:48 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use And keep in mind that over 80% of CF use is internal stuff, behind firewalls, stuff Google will never see. --- Ben -Original Message- From: Bert Dawson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 8:43 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use index.cfm: about 17,600,000 index.asp: about 16,600,000 Looks like an open and shut case. :) Cheers Bert ps and after a quick check (google on site:www.mysite.com) i reckon about 4% of those 17 million are mine! On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 10:59:48 +, Mark Drew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I found this graph a while back, and I am looking to see if there are any other sites that show the graph of technology use that is more up to date? http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2004/03/23/aspnet_overtakes_jsp_and_ java_servlets.html I am trying to get some figures on overall usage of CF on websites. Anybody got something like that knocking round? -- Mark Drew coldfusion and cfeclipse blogged: http://cybersonic.blogspot.com/ fusebox plugin for cfeclipse: http://cfopen.org/projects/fusebox3cfe/ ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193082 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use
I know this is a hard metric, and it leads from a Macromedia CF brand re-inforcement excercise I need to play with a client. Not that they are going to go .net is just that .Net gets more press as its the new kid on the block. Any ideas on metrics/re-inforcement apreciated. MD On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 08:57:16 -0600, Mark A Kruger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Recall that many asp sites use default.asp ... not index.asp, whereas CF's index.cfm is far more standard. -Mark -Original Message- From: Ben Forta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 7:48 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use And keep in mind that over 80% of CF use is internal stuff, behind firewalls, stuff Google will never see. --- Ben -Original Message- From: Bert Dawson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 8:43 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use index.cfm: about 17,600,000 index.asp: about 16,600,000 Looks like an open and shut case. :) Cheers Bert ps and after a quick check (google on site:www.mysite.com) i reckon about 4% of those 17 million are mine! On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 10:59:48 +, Mark Drew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I found this graph a while back, and I am looking to see if there are any other sites that show the graph of technology use that is more up to date? http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2004/03/23/aspnet_overtakes_jsp_and_ java_servlets.html I am trying to get some figures on overall usage of CF on websites. Anybody got something like that knocking round? -- Mark Drew coldfusion and cfeclipse blogged: http://cybersonic.blogspot.com/ fusebox plugin for cfeclipse: http://cfopen.org/projects/fusebox3cfe/ ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193083 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use
That means that there are bigger sites for CFM? how about fusebox? each site would be index.cfm and that is pretty much it? On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 10:18:59 -0500, Russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about a google search just for the file extension? Results 1 - 10 of about 82,700,000 for inurl:.aspx. (0.08 seconds) Results 1 - 10 of about 129,000,000 for inurl:.cfm. (0.28 seconds) -Original Message- From: Mark A Kruger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 10:01 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use Recall that many asp sites use default.asp ... not index.asp, whereas CF's index.cfm is far more standard. -Mark -Original Message- From: Ben Forta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 7:48 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use And keep in mind that over 80% of CF use is internal stuff, behind firewalls, stuff Google will never see. --- Ben -Original Message- From: Bert Dawson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 8:43 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use index.cfm: about 17,600,000 index.asp: about 16,600,000 Looks like an open and shut case. :) Cheers Bert ps and after a quick check (google on site:www.mysite.com) i reckon about 4% of those 17 million are mine! On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 10:59:48 +, Mark Drew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I found this graph a while back, and I am looking to see if there are any other sites that show the graph of technology use that is more up to date? http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2004/03/23/aspnet_overtakes_jsp_and_ java_servlets.html I am trying to get some figures on overall usage of CF on websites. Anybody got something like that knocking round? -- Mark Drew coldfusion and cfeclipse blogged: http://cybersonic.blogspot.com/ fusebox plugin for cfeclipse: http://cfopen.org/projects/fusebox3cfe/ ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193084 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use
Where did you search to get those number? By default, IIS doesn't use index.asp as the default document, but uses default.asp (for legacy ASP) and default.aspx (for ASP.NET). What are the results for those? Vince -Original Message- From: Bert Dawson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 8:43 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use index.cfm: about 17,600,000 index.asp: about 16,600,000 Looks like an open and shut case. :) Cheers Bert ps and after a quick check (google on site:www.mysite.com) i reckon about 4% of those 17 million are mine! On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 10:59:48 +, Mark Drew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I found this graph a while back, and I am looking to see if there are any other sites that show the graph of technology use that is more up to date? http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2004/03/23/aspnet_overtakes_jsp_and_ java_servlets.html I am trying to get some figures on overall usage of CF on websites. Anybody got something like that knocking round? -- Mark Drew coldfusion and cfeclipse blogged: http://cybersonic.blogspot.com/ fusebox plugin for cfeclipse: http://cfopen.org/projects/fusebox3cfe/ ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193087 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use
Searching 'fuseaction' in google turns up 12,700,000. A lot of pages from US Senate and House. The gov't clearly endorses Fusebox and CF. Hmmm, is this a good thing? ;) Mark That means that there are bigger sites for CFM? how about fusebox? each site would be index.cfm and that is pretty much it? ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193092 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use
Just a dump of dumb numbers index.cfm - 19,200,000 default.cfm - 2,100,000 index.asp - 18,500,000 default.asp - 17,900,000 index.aspx - 3,670,000 default.aspx - 8,740,000 index.php - 29,100,000 default.php - 4,200,000 index.jsp - 10,900,000 default.jsp - 266,000 Ohh.. me scared.. aspx all over the place :) MD On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 10:37:36 -0500, Vince Bonfanti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where did you search to get those number? By default, IIS doesn't use index.asp as the default document, but uses default.asp (for legacy ASP) and default.aspx (for ASP.NET). What are the results for those? Vince -Original Message- From: Bert Dawson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 8:43 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use index.cfm: about 17,600,000 index.asp: about 16,600,000 Looks like an open and shut case. :) Cheers Bert ps and after a quick check (google on site:www.mysite.com) i reckon about 4% of those 17 million are mine! On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 10:59:48 +, Mark Drew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I found this graph a while back, and I am looking to see if there are any other sites that show the graph of technology use that is more up to date? http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2004/03/23/aspnet_overtakes_jsp_and_ java_servlets.html I am trying to get some figures on overall usage of CF on websites. Anybody got something like that knocking round? -- Mark Drew coldfusion and cfeclipse blogged: http://cybersonic.blogspot.com/ fusebox plugin for cfeclipse: http://cfopen.org/projects/fusebox3cfe/ ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193093 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use
whoops - looked like i removed the first line - it should have read:...
searching google i found:
index.cfm: about 17,600,000
index.asp: about 16,600,000
Cheers
Bert
On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 10:37:36 -0500, Vince Bonfanti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Where did you search to get those number? {snip}
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Re: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use
Surely this is abundantly obvious, ASP/.NET has a much larger saturation than CF, you don't need to google to know that...just open your eyes a little. -- Neil http://www.theservicefactory.com Get Firefox - http://www.getfirefox.com ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193103 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use
-Original Message- From: Mark A Kruger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 9:57 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use Recall that many asp sites use default.asp ... not index.asp, whereas CF's index.cfm is far more standard. Although some of us use default.cfm (as at www.nefn.com) as well. Add to that the number of people that mask the extension entirely and the (large number, as Ben said) behind firewalls (and not just for CF) and in the end I don't think any of the numbers available via Google are very useful. I'm not sure how you would get comparative numbers... with CF it's tempting to go by sales (which assumes if somebody buys a product they'll use it) but that cuts out the very large number of shared hosting applications (one purchased license might support dozens of separate applications). It's also impossible to judge ASP via sales. So I'm not sure how to get real numbers... Jim Davis ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193104 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use
And keep in mind that over 80% of CF use is internal stuff, behind firewalls, stuff Google will never see. Isn't that equally true for every other web application server technology? Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193111 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use
Dave, honestly, I don't think anyone really knows the answer to that one. But it is clear that some technologies tend to be used less in internal corporate development (PHP is a perfect example of this) meaning that proportionally there is more of them public facing and that skews any extrapolation of total use based on public facing use. --- Ben -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 12:57 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use And keep in mind that over 80% of CF use is internal stuff, behind firewalls, stuff Google will never see. Isn't that equally true for every other web application server technology? Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193121 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use
I'm gonna be a good boy and stay out of this one! :) Will ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193137 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use
Good idea ;) Rey... - Original Message - From: Will Tomlinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 2:33 PM Subject: Re: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use I'm gonna be a good boy and stay out of this one! :) Will ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193138 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use
he he me 2! that damn glorified frontpage junk! hahaha From: Will Tomlinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 3:33 PM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: Re: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use I'm gonna be a good boy and stay out of this one! :) Will ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193141 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use
I'd agree with that. The Apache web server is probably in the same category--used more in public hosting environments and less behind corporate firewalls, so surveys that only measure public web servers (such as Netcraft) tend to be skewed. Vince -Original Message- From: Ben Forta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 1:47 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use Dave, honestly, I don't think anyone really knows the answer to that one. But it is clear that some technologies tend to be used less in internal corporate development (PHP is a perfect example of this) meaning that proportionally there is more of them public facing and that skews any extrapolation of total use based on public facing use. --- Ben -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 12:57 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use And keep in mind that over 80% of CF use is internal stuff, behind firewalls, stuff Google will never see. Isn't that equally true for every other web application server technology? Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193146 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use
too me its like this, ms has a tendency to drop things everytime someone has something new (look no futher than asp or google type searches or anti-spyware, which is hilarious because their browser installs the spyware then u gotta pay them to buy their ani-spyware to get rid of it and make them look like saviors, same as aol) and their problem is they cant come up with really anything original on their own, they just wait for someone to do it then they try to dup it then run the original ppl under. coldfusion has been around and keeps growing and getting better and it has a solid history, its never just been dumped. maybe .net is todays flava but in a way im not sure what will happen down the line, maybe im just ignorant. but i see things really going down the compliancy highway and even .net code has to be pretty well tweaked to get there. which may seem like a small thing but u add the rising of alt browsers and the growing trends of validation, it really sets up 2 sides, those that follow (most everyone) and those that dont (ms) at some point i think ppl are just gunna flat get sick of the patching and hacking to get things to work right and ms is gunna fall outta favor with a lot of ppl. and i would imagine if their patching gets any worse more ppl will be switching to linux servers and well ms has messed that up too by trying to make .net only run on windows (imagine that) and not talking bout cfm.net(bd) cause im sure that pisses ms to off to hell and back!. so when i see their vp saying hes not worried about firefox and that whole movement, i have to wonder and its a much bigger deal than just the browsers. but anyways, with their history, i can see .net go up a bit more then fall. at some point they gotta put some money and effort in fixing there os systems instead of putting it towards (so called free) stuff like .net or they will be in big trouble and thats where .net is gunna tumble. not trying to diss ms, just my thoughts :) ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193149 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use
You'll never see any of my stuff, we have a HUGE CF intranet, but no one will ever know about it except for me talking about it Adam H On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 16:42:03 -0500, dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: too me its like this, ms has a tendency to drop things everytime someone has something new (look no futher than asp or google type searches or anti-spyware, which is hilarious because their browser installs the spyware then u gotta pay them to buy their ani-spyware to get rid of it and make them look like saviors, same as aol) and their problem is they cant come up with really anything original on their own, they just wait for someone to do it then they try to dup it then run the original ppl under. coldfusion has been around and keeps growing and getting better and it has a solid history, its never just been dumped. maybe .net is todays flava but in a way im not sure what will happen down the line, maybe im just ignorant. but i see things really going down the compliancy highway and even .net code has to be pretty well tweaked to get there. which may seem like a small thing but u add the rising of alt browsers and the growing trends of validation, it really sets up 2 sides, those that follow (most everyone) and those that dont (ms) at some point i think ppl are just gunna flat get sick of the patching and hacking to get things to work right and ms is gunna fall outta favor with a lot of ppl. and i would imagine if their patching gets any worse more ppl will be switching to linux servers and well ms has messed that up too by trying to make .net only run on windows (imagine that) and not talking bout cfm.net(bd) cause im sure that pisses ms to off to hell and back!. so when i see their vp saying hes not worried about firefox and that whole movement, i have to wonder and its a much bigger deal than just the browsers. but anyways, with their history, i can see .net go up a bit more then fall. at some point they gotta put some money and effort in fixing there os systems instead of putting it towards (so called free) stuff like .net or they will be in big trouble and thats where .net is gunna tumble. not trying to diss ms, just my thoughts :) ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193155 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
