Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use

2005-02-04 Thread Mark Drew
I found this graph a while back, and I am looking to see if there are
any other sites that show the graph of technology use that is more up
to date?
http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2004/03/23/aspnet_overtakes_jsp_and_java_servlets.html

I am trying to get some figures on overall usage of CF on websites.
Anybody got something like that knocking round?

-- 
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Re: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use

2005-02-04 Thread Bert Dawson
index.cfm: about 17,600,000 
index.asp: about 16,600,000

Looks like an open and shut case.
:)

Cheers
Bert

ps and after a quick check (google on site:www.mysite.com) i reckon
about 4% of those 17 million are mine!

On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 10:59:48 +, Mark Drew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I found this graph a while back, and I am looking to see if there are
 any other sites that show the graph of technology use that is more up
 to date?
 http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2004/03/23/aspnet_overtakes_jsp_and_java_servlets.html
 
 I am trying to get some figures on overall usage of CF on websites.
 Anybody got something like that knocking round?
 
 --
 Mark Drew
 
 coldfusion and cfeclipse blogged:
 http://cybersonic.blogspot.com/
 fusebox plugin for cfeclipse:
 http://cfopen.org/projects/fusebox3cfe/
 
 

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RE: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use

2005-02-04 Thread Ben Forta
And keep in mind that over 80% of CF use is internal stuff, behind
firewalls, stuff Google will never see.

--- Ben
 

-Original Message-
From: Bert Dawson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 8:43 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use

index.cfm: about 17,600,000
index.asp: about 16,600,000

Looks like an open and shut case.
:)

Cheers
Bert

ps and after a quick check (google on site:www.mysite.com) i reckon about 4%
of those 17 million are mine!

On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 10:59:48 +, Mark Drew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I found this graph a while back, and I am looking to see if there are 
 any other sites that show the graph of technology use that is more up 
 to date?
 http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2004/03/23/aspnet_overtakes_jsp_and_
 java_servlets.html
 
 I am trying to get some figures on overall usage of CF on websites.
 Anybody got something like that knocking round?
 
 --
 Mark Drew
 
 coldfusion and cfeclipse blogged:
 http://cybersonic.blogspot.com/
 fusebox plugin for cfeclipse:
 http://cfopen.org/projects/fusebox3cfe/
 
 



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RE: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use

2005-02-04 Thread Calvin Ward
How about .aspx?

-Original Message-
From: Ben Forta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 8:48 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use

And keep in mind that over 80% of CF use is internal stuff, behind
firewalls, stuff Google will never see.

--- Ben
 

-Original Message-
From: Bert Dawson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 8:43 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use

index.cfm: about 17,600,000
index.asp: about 16,600,000

Looks like an open and shut case.
:)

Cheers
Bert

ps and after a quick check (google on site:www.mysite.com) i reckon about 4%
of those 17 million are mine!

On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 10:59:48 +, Mark Drew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I found this graph a while back, and I am looking to see if there are 
 any other sites that show the graph of technology use that is more up 
 to date?
 http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2004/03/23/aspnet_overtakes_jsp_and_
 java_servlets.html
 
 I am trying to get some figures on overall usage of CF on websites.
 Anybody got something like that knocking round?
 
 --
 Mark Drew
 
 coldfusion and cfeclipse blogged:
 http://cybersonic.blogspot.com/
 fusebox plugin for cfeclipse:
 http://cfopen.org/projects/fusebox3cfe/
 
 





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RE: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use

2005-02-04 Thread Craig Dudley
And the fact the asp uses Default.asp a lot of the time.

-Original Message-
From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 04 February 2005 13:51
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use

How about .aspx?

-Original Message-
From: Ben Forta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 8:48 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use

And keep in mind that over 80% of CF use is internal stuff, behind
firewalls, stuff Google will never see.

--- Ben
 

-Original Message-
From: Bert Dawson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 8:43 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use

index.cfm: about 17,600,000
index.asp: about 16,600,000

Looks like an open and shut case.
:)

Cheers
Bert

ps and after a quick check (google on site:www.mysite.com) i reckon
about 4% of those 17 million are mine!

On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 10:59:48 +, Mark Drew [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 I found this graph a while back, and I am looking to see if there are 
 any other sites that show the graph of technology use that is more up 
 to date?
 http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2004/03/23/aspnet_overtakes_jsp_and_
 java_servlets.html
 
 I am trying to get some figures on overall usage of CF on websites.
 Anybody got something like that knocking round?
 
 --
 Mark Drew
 
 coldfusion and cfeclipse blogged:
 http://cybersonic.blogspot.com/
 fusebox plugin for cfeclipse:
 http://cfopen.org/projects/fusebox3cfe/
 
 







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RE: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use

2005-02-04 Thread Mark A Kruger
Recall that many asp sites use default.asp ... not index.asp, whereas CF's
index.cfm is far more standard.

-Mark


-Original Message-
From: Ben Forta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 7:48 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use


And keep in mind that over 80% of CF use is internal stuff, behind
firewalls, stuff Google will never see.

--- Ben


-Original Message-
From: Bert Dawson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 8:43 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use

index.cfm: about 17,600,000
index.asp: about 16,600,000

Looks like an open and shut case.
:)

Cheers
Bert

ps and after a quick check (google on site:www.mysite.com) i reckon about 4%
of those 17 million are mine!

On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 10:59:48 +, Mark Drew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I found this graph a while back, and I am looking to see if there are
 any other sites that show the graph of technology use that is more up
 to date?
 http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2004/03/23/aspnet_overtakes_jsp_and_
 java_servlets.html

 I am trying to get some figures on overall usage of CF on websites.
 Anybody got something like that knocking round?

 --
 Mark Drew

 coldfusion and cfeclipse blogged:
 http://cybersonic.blogspot.com/
 fusebox plugin for cfeclipse:
 http://cfopen.org/projects/fusebox3cfe/







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RE: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use

2005-02-04 Thread Russ
How about a google search just for the file extension?

Results 1 - 10 of about 82,700,000 for inurl:.aspx. (0.08 seconds) 
Results 1 - 10 of about 129,000,000 for inurl:.cfm. (0.28 seconds)

-Original Message-
From: Mark A Kruger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 10:01 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use

Recall that many asp sites use default.asp ... not index.asp, whereas CF's
index.cfm is far more standard.

-Mark


-Original Message-
From: Ben Forta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 7:48 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use


And keep in mind that over 80% of CF use is internal stuff, behind
firewalls, stuff Google will never see.

--- Ben


-Original Message-
From: Bert Dawson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 8:43 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use

index.cfm: about 17,600,000
index.asp: about 16,600,000

Looks like an open and shut case.
:)

Cheers
Bert

ps and after a quick check (google on site:www.mysite.com) i reckon about 4%
of those 17 million are mine!

On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 10:59:48 +, Mark Drew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I found this graph a while back, and I am looking to see if there are
 any other sites that show the graph of technology use that is more up
 to date?
 http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2004/03/23/aspnet_overtakes_jsp_and_
 java_servlets.html

 I am trying to get some figures on overall usage of CF on websites.
 Anybody got something like that knocking round?

 --
 Mark Drew

 coldfusion and cfeclipse blogged:
 http://cybersonic.blogspot.com/
 fusebox plugin for cfeclipse:
 http://cfopen.org/projects/fusebox3cfe/









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Re: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use

2005-02-04 Thread Mark Drew
I know this is a hard metric, and it leads from a Macromedia CF brand
re-inforcement excercise I need to play with a client.

Not that they are going to go .net is just that .Net gets more press
as its the new kid on the block.


Any ideas on metrics/re-inforcement apreciated.


MD


On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 08:57:16 -0600, Mark A Kruger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Recall that many asp sites use default.asp ... not index.asp, whereas CF's
 index.cfm is far more standard.
 
 -Mark
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Ben Forta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 7:48 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use
 
 And keep in mind that over 80% of CF use is internal stuff, behind
 firewalls, stuff Google will never see.
 
 --- Ben
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Bert Dawson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 8:43 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use
 
 index.cfm: about 17,600,000
 index.asp: about 16,600,000
 
 Looks like an open and shut case.
 :)
 
 Cheers
 Bert
 
 ps and after a quick check (google on site:www.mysite.com) i reckon about 4%
 of those 17 million are mine!
 
 On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 10:59:48 +, Mark Drew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I found this graph a while back, and I am looking to see if there are
  any other sites that show the graph of technology use that is more up
  to date?
  http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2004/03/23/aspnet_overtakes_jsp_and_
  java_servlets.html
 
  I am trying to get some figures on overall usage of CF on websites.
  Anybody got something like that knocking round?
 
  --
  Mark Drew
 
  coldfusion and cfeclipse blogged:
  http://cybersonic.blogspot.com/
  fusebox plugin for cfeclipse:
  http://cfopen.org/projects/fusebox3cfe/
 
 
 
 

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Re: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use

2005-02-04 Thread Mark Drew
That means that there are bigger sites for CFM?

how about fusebox? each site would be index.cfm and that is pretty much it?




On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 10:18:59 -0500, Russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 How about a google search just for the file extension?
 
 Results 1 - 10 of about 82,700,000 for inurl:.aspx. (0.08 seconds)
 Results 1 - 10 of about 129,000,000 for inurl:.cfm. (0.28 seconds)
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Mark A Kruger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 10:01 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use
 
 Recall that many asp sites use default.asp ... not index.asp, whereas CF's
 index.cfm is far more standard.
 
 -Mark
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Ben Forta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 7:48 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use
 
 And keep in mind that over 80% of CF use is internal stuff, behind
 firewalls, stuff Google will never see.
 
 --- Ben
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Bert Dawson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 8:43 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use
 
 index.cfm: about 17,600,000
 index.asp: about 16,600,000
 
 Looks like an open and shut case.
 :)
 
 Cheers
 Bert
 
 ps and after a quick check (google on site:www.mysite.com) i reckon about 4%
 of those 17 million are mine!
 
 On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 10:59:48 +, Mark Drew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I found this graph a while back, and I am looking to see if there are
  any other sites that show the graph of technology use that is more up
  to date?
  http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2004/03/23/aspnet_overtakes_jsp_and_
  java_servlets.html
 
  I am trying to get some figures on overall usage of CF on websites.
  Anybody got something like that knocking round?
 
  --
  Mark Drew
 
  coldfusion and cfeclipse blogged:
  http://cybersonic.blogspot.com/
  fusebox plugin for cfeclipse:
  http://cfopen.org/projects/fusebox3cfe/
 
 
 
 

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RE: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use

2005-02-04 Thread Vince Bonfanti
Where did you search to get those number? By default, IIS doesn't use
index.asp as the default document, but uses default.asp (for legacy ASP)
and default.aspx (for ASP.NET). What are the results for those?

Vince

 -Original Message-
 From: Bert Dawson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 8:43 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use
 
 index.cfm: about 17,600,000
 index.asp: about 16,600,000
 
 Looks like an open and shut case.
 :)
 
 Cheers
 Bert
 
 ps and after a quick check (google on site:www.mysite.com) i 
 reckon about 4% of those 17 million are mine!
 
 On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 10:59:48 +, Mark Drew 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I found this graph a while back, and I am looking to see if 
 there are 
  any other sites that show the graph of technology use that 
 is more up 
  to date?
  
 http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2004/03/23/aspnet_overtakes_jsp_and_
  java_servlets.html
  
  I am trying to get some figures on overall usage of CF on websites.
  Anybody got something like that knocking round?
  
  --
  Mark Drew
  
  coldfusion and cfeclipse blogged:
  http://cybersonic.blogspot.com/
  fusebox plugin for cfeclipse:
  http://cfopen.org/projects/fusebox3cfe/
  
  
 
 

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Re: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use

2005-02-04 Thread Mark Fragnoli
Searching 'fuseaction' in google turns up 12,700,000.

A lot of pages from US Senate and House.   The gov't clearly endorses Fusebox 
and CF.  Hmmm, is this a good thing? ;)

Mark


That means that there are bigger sites for CFM?

how about fusebox? each site would be index.cfm and that is pretty much it?


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Re: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use

2005-02-04 Thread Mark Drew
Just a dump  of dumb numbers

index.cfm - 19,200,000
default.cfm - 2,100,000

index.asp  - 18,500,000
default.asp - 17,900,000

index.aspx - 3,670,000 
default.aspx - 8,740,000

index.php - 29,100,000
default.php - 4,200,000

index.jsp - 10,900,000
default.jsp -  266,000

Ohh.. me scared.. aspx all over the place :)

MD


On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 10:37:36 -0500, Vince Bonfanti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Where did you search to get those number? By default, IIS doesn't use
 index.asp as the default document, but uses default.asp (for legacy ASP)
 and default.aspx (for ASP.NET). What are the results for those?
 
 Vince
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Bert Dawson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 8:43 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Re: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use
 
  index.cfm: about 17,600,000
  index.asp: about 16,600,000
 
  Looks like an open and shut case.
  :)
 
  Cheers
  Bert
 
  ps and after a quick check (google on site:www.mysite.com) i
  reckon about 4% of those 17 million are mine!
 
  On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 10:59:48 +, Mark Drew
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I found this graph a while back, and I am looking to see if
  there are
   any other sites that show the graph of technology use that
  is more up
   to date?
  
  http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2004/03/23/aspnet_overtakes_jsp_and_
   java_servlets.html
  
   I am trying to get some figures on overall usage of CF on websites.
   Anybody got something like that knocking round?
  
   --
   Mark Drew
  
   coldfusion and cfeclipse blogged:
   http://cybersonic.blogspot.com/
   fusebox plugin for cfeclipse:
   http://cfopen.org/projects/fusebox3cfe/
  
  
 
 
 
 

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Re: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use

2005-02-04 Thread Bert Dawson
whoops - looked like i removed the first line - it should have read:...

searching google i found:
index.cfm: about 17,600,000
index.asp: about 16,600,000

Cheers
Bert

On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 10:37:36 -0500, Vince Bonfanti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Where did you search to get those number? {snip}
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Bert Dawson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 8:43 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Re: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use
 
  index.cfm: about 17,600,000
  index.asp: about 16,600,000
 

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Re: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use

2005-02-04 Thread Neil Middleton
Surely this is abundantly obvious, ASP/.NET has a much larger
saturation than CF, you don't need to google to know that...just open
your eyes a little.


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RE: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use

2005-02-04 Thread Jim Davis
 -Original Message-
 From: Mark A Kruger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 9:57 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use
 
 Recall that many asp sites use default.asp ... not index.asp, whereas
 CF's
 index.cfm is far more standard.

Although some of us use default.cfm (as at www.nefn.com) as well.  Add to
that the number of people that mask the extension entirely and the (large
number, as Ben said) behind firewalls (and not just for CF) and in the end I
don't think any of the numbers available via Google are very useful.

I'm not sure how you would get comparative numbers... with CF it's tempting
to go by sales (which assumes if somebody buys a product they'll use it) but
that cuts out the very large number of shared hosting applications (one
purchased license might support dozens of separate applications).

It's also impossible to judge ASP via sales.

So I'm not sure how to get real numbers...

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RE: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use

2005-02-04 Thread Dave Watts
 And keep in mind that over 80% of CF use is internal stuff, 
 behind firewalls, stuff Google will never see.

Isn't that equally true for every other web application server technology?

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RE: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use

2005-02-04 Thread Ben Forta
Dave, honestly, I don't think anyone really knows the answer to that one.
But it is clear that some technologies tend to be used less in internal
corporate development (PHP is a perfect example of this) meaning that
proportionally there is more of them public facing and that skews any
extrapolation of total use based on public facing use.

--- Ben


 

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Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 12:57 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use

 And keep in mind that over 80% of CF use is internal stuff, behind 
 firewalls, stuff Google will never see.

Isn't that equally true for every other web application server technology?

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Re: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use

2005-02-04 Thread Will Tomlinson
I'm gonna be a good boy and stay out of this one! 

:)

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Re: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use

2005-02-04 Thread Rey Bango
Good idea ;)

Rey...

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 I'm gonna be a good boy and stay out of this one!

 :)

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Re: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use

2005-02-04 Thread dave
he he me 2!

 that damn glorified frontpage junk! hahaha


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I'm gonna be a good boy and stay out of this one! 

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RE: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use

2005-02-04 Thread Vince Bonfanti
I'd agree with that. The Apache web server is probably in the same
category--used more in public hosting environments and less behind corporate
firewalls, so surveys that only measure public web servers (such as
Netcraft) tend to be skewed.

Vince 

 -Original Message-
 From: Ben Forta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 1:47 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use
 
 Dave, honestly, I don't think anyone really knows the answer 
 to that one.
 But it is clear that some technologies tend to be used less 
 in internal corporate development (PHP is a perfect example 
 of this) meaning that proportionally there is more of them 
 public facing and that skews any extrapolation of total use 
 based on public facing use.
 
 --- Ben
 
 
  
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 12:57 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use
 
  And keep in mind that over 80% of CF use is internal stuff, behind 
  firewalls, stuff Google will never see.
 
 Isn't that equally true for every other web application 
 server technology?
 
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 http://www.figleaf.com/
 
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 Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern 
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RE: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use

2005-02-04 Thread dave
too me its like this, ms has a tendency to drop things everytime someone has 
something new (look no futher than asp or google type searches or anti-spyware, 
which is hilarious because their browser installs the spyware then u gotta pay 
them to buy their ani-spyware to get rid of it and make them look like saviors, 
same as aol) and their problem is they cant come up with really anything 
original on their own, they just wait for someone to do it then they try to dup 
it then run the original ppl under.

 coldfusion has been around and keeps growing and getting better and it has a 
solid history, its never just been dumped.

 maybe .net is todays flava but in a way im not sure what will happen down the 
line, maybe im just ignorant.
 but i see things really going down the compliancy highway and even .net code 
has to be pretty well tweaked to get there. which may seem like a small thing 
but u add the rising of alt browsers and the growing trends of validation, it 
really sets up 2 sides, those that follow (most everyone) and those that dont 
(ms) at some point i think ppl are just gunna flat get sick of the patching and 
hacking to get things to work right and ms is gunna fall outta favor with a lot 
of ppl. and i would imagine if their patching gets any worse more ppl will be 
switching to linux servers and well ms has messed that up too by trying to make 
.net only run on windows (imagine that) and not talking bout cfm.net(bd) cause 
im sure that pisses ms to off to hell and back!.

 so when i see their vp saying hes not worried about firefox and that whole 
movement, i have to wonder and its a much bigger deal than just the browsers.

 but anyways, with their history, i can see .net go up a bit more then fall.
 at some point they gotta put some money and effort in fixing there os systems 
instead of putting it towards (so called free) stuff like .net or they will be 
in big trouble and thats where .net is gunna tumble.

not trying to diss ms, just my thoughts :)







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Re: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use

2005-02-04 Thread Adam Haskell
You'll never see any of my stuff, we have a HUGE CF intranet, but no
one will ever know about it except for me talking about it

Adam H


On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 16:42:03 -0500, dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 too me its like this, ms has a tendency to drop things everytime someone has 
 something new (look no futher than asp or google type searches or 
 anti-spyware, which is hilarious because their browser installs the spyware 
 then u gotta pay them to buy their ani-spyware to get rid of it and make them 
 look like saviors, same as aol) and their problem is they cant come up with 
 really anything original on their own, they just wait for someone to do it 
 then they try to dup it then run the original ppl under.
 
 coldfusion has been around and keeps growing and getting better and it has a 
 solid history, its never just been dumped.
 
 maybe .net is todays flava but in a way im not sure what will happen down the 
 line, maybe im just ignorant.
 but i see things really going down the compliancy highway and even .net code 
 has to be pretty well tweaked to get there. which may seem like a small thing 
 but u add the rising of alt browsers and the growing trends of validation, it 
 really sets up 2 sides, those that follow (most everyone) and those that dont 
 (ms) at some point i think ppl are just gunna flat get sick of the patching 
 and hacking to get things to work right and ms is gunna fall outta favor with 
 a lot of ppl. and i would imagine if their patching gets any worse more ppl 
 will be switching to linux servers and well ms has messed that up too by 
 trying to make .net only run on windows (imagine that) and not talking bout 
 cfm.net(bd) cause im sure that pisses ms to off to hell and back!.
 
 so when i see their vp saying hes not worried about firefox and that whole 
 movement, i have to wonder and its a much bigger deal than just the browsers.
 
 but anyways, with their history, i can see .net go up a bit more then fall.
 at some point they gotta put some money and effort in fixing there os systems 
 instead of putting it towards (so called free) stuff like .net or they will 
 be in big trouble and thats where .net is gunna tumble.
 
 not trying to diss ms, just my thoughts :)
 
 
 
 
 

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