RE: OT: Macs, Netscape, and table cell heights, oh my

2002-09-19 Thread Kevin Graeme

Unfortunately, there isn't a solution that makes it work. As I said, the
height attribute has been deprecated. In HTML 4, they cut it out for the TD
and TR tags, and in HTML 4.01 they have now deprecated it for the TABLE tag.

The only solution is to redesign to not require it.

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Kevin Graeme

> -Original Message-
> From: Scott Weikert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 5:08 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: OT: Macs, Netscape, and table cell heights, oh my
>
>
> At 05:29 PM 9/19/2002 -0400, you wrote:
> >netscape is famous for not conforming to its own specs.
> >
> >In the same way that you build the rows in your inner table
> >
> >you can pass the information to use in the transparant.gif
> >
> >
>
> Can't do that. I'm not *setting* a specific height for the table
> cells. All
> the cells in the row, I want their heights to conform - and the height is
> driven by the cell that has the most content in it.
>
> FYI, on my b/g color issue, I solved that bit - simply moved the
> call up to
> the enclosing cell. But in the end, I'd still like to solve this, as I'm
> suffering from this issue in another part of my project, a part
> that's not
> as easy a fix as the previous part.
>
>
>
> 
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RE: OT: Macs, Netscape, and table cell heights, oh my

2002-09-19 Thread Scott Weikert

At 05:29 PM 9/19/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>netscape is famous for not conforming to its own specs.
>
>In the same way that you build the rows in your inner table
>
>you can pass the information to use in the transparant.gif
>
>

Can't do that. I'm not *setting* a specific height for the table cells. All 
the cells in the row, I want their heights to conform - and the height is 
driven by the cell that has the most content in it.

FYI, on my b/g color issue, I solved that bit - simply moved the call up to 
the enclosing cell. But in the end, I'd still like to solve this, as I'm 
suffering from this issue in another part of my project, a part that's not 
as easy a fix as the previous part.



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RE: OT: Macs, Netscape, and table cell heights, oh my

2002-09-19 Thread Gilbert Midonnet

netscape is famous for not conforming to its own specs.

In the same way that you build the rows in your inner table

>I create a new table, and based on the content for that cell, I 
>build up one or more rows of stuff, close out the table. Each of those 
>tables has a seperate b/g color (using CSS). 

you can pass the information to use in the transparant.gif



// glm



-Original Message-
From: Scott Weikert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 4:07 PM
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Subject: Re: OT: Macs, Netscape, and table cell heights, oh my


>Try using an invisible gif with the height set to 100% or set to a specific
>height...

No go on that. First off, the overall height of the cells in the row is 
driven by the amount of stuff in the cells - the cell that has the most, 
height-wise, drives the height of the rest. There's no hard value to use 
for an image height. Also, setting the image height to 100% didn't make a 
difference.

The docs on Netscape's developer site states that putting "height=100%" on 
a table tag will make it conform to the parent element's height, but 
obviously this isn't the case in real life. :/ Works great in IE, though. 
Harrumph.



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RE: OT: Macs, Netscape, and table cell heights, oh my

2002-09-19 Thread Kevin Graeme

So since you want the inside tables to all be the same size, can't you just
set the bgcolor for the containing TD?




  
  
  Some data
  
  


  
  
  Some data
  
  




By the way if this works, it will be fine for solid colors, but if you set a
background image, in some versions of Netscape the image will be carried up
to the contained table and repeated in each cell. So don't do that.

Kevin Graeme

> -Original Message-
> From: Scott Weikert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 3:07 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: OT: Macs, Netscape, and table cell heights, oh my
>
>
> >Try using an invisible gif with the height set to 100% or set to
> a specific
> >height...
>
> No go on that. First off, the overall height of the cells in the row is
> driven by the amount of stuff in the cells - the cell that has the most,
> height-wise, drives the height of the rest. There's no hard value to use
> for an image height. Also, setting the image height to 100% didn't make a
> difference.
>
> The docs on Netscape's developer site states that putting
> "height=100%" on
> a table tag will make it conform to the parent element's height, but
> obviously this isn't the case in real life. :/ Works great in IE, though.
> Harrumph.
>
>
> 
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Re: OT: Macs, Netscape, and table cell heights, oh my

2002-09-19 Thread S . Isaac Dealey

This is a problem because of the colors? Why not set the color on the cell
instead of the table?

> I've an issue with a project I'm working on, when it comes to Macs,
> specifically with Netscape 6. IE seems to do fine here. It *is* a CF based
> project, so there, nyah. :)

> I've got a table, with several vertical cells (i.e. all on one row).
> Within
> each cell, I create a new table, and based on the content for that cell, I
> build up one or more rows of stuff, close out the table. Each of those
> tables has a seperate b/g color (using CSS).  All well and good.

> The issue here is, with Mac NS 6, the tables-inside-the-cells will *not*
> stretch to the full height of the enclosed cell, even with "height=100%"
> on
> them, when they are not the largest cell (which drives the overall
> height).
> What I get resembles an upside-down bar graph. In IE, the enclosed tables
> stretch to the full allowed height.

> (growls under breath)

> Any insight on this would be MOST appreciated.

> Thanks in advance,
> --Scott

> 
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Re: OT: Macs, Netscape, and table cell heights, oh my

2002-09-19 Thread Scott Weikert

>Try using an invisible gif with the height set to 100% or set to a specific
>height...

No go on that. First off, the overall height of the cells in the row is 
driven by the amount of stuff in the cells - the cell that has the most, 
height-wise, drives the height of the rest. There's no hard value to use 
for an image height. Also, setting the image height to 100% didn't make a 
difference.

The docs on Netscape's developer site states that putting "height=100%" on 
a table tag will make it conform to the parent element's height, but 
obviously this isn't the case in real life. :/ Works great in IE, though. 
Harrumph.


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Re: OT: Macs, Netscape, and table cell heights, oh my

2002-09-19 Thread Brook

Try using an invisible gif with the height set to 100% or set to a specific 
height...

At 11:58 AM 19/09/02 -0600, you wrote:
>I've an issue with a project I'm working on, when it comes to Macs,
>specifically with Netscape 6. IE seems to do fine here. It *is* a CF based
>project, so there, nyah. :)
>
>I've got a table, with several vertical cells (i.e. all on one row). Within
>each cell, I create a new table, and based on the content for that cell, I
>build up one or more rows of stuff, close out the table. Each of those
>tables has a seperate b/g color (using CSS).  All well and good.
>
>The issue here is, with Mac NS 6, the tables-inside-the-cells will *not*
>stretch to the full height of the enclosed cell, even with "height=100%" on
>them, when they are not the largest cell (which drives the overall height).
>What I get resembles an upside-down bar graph. In IE, the enclosed tables
>stretch to the full allowed height.
>
>(growls under breath)
>
>Any insight on this would be MOST appreciated.
>
>Thanks in advance,
>--Scott
>
>
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OT: Macs, Netscape, and table cell heights, oh my

2002-09-19 Thread Scott Weikert

I've an issue with a project I'm working on, when it comes to Macs, 
specifically with Netscape 6. IE seems to do fine here. It *is* a CF based 
project, so there, nyah. :)

I've got a table, with several vertical cells (i.e. all on one row). Within 
each cell, I create a new table, and based on the content for that cell, I 
build up one or more rows of stuff, close out the table. Each of those 
tables has a seperate b/g color (using CSS).  All well and good.

The issue here is, with Mac NS 6, the tables-inside-the-cells will *not* 
stretch to the full height of the enclosed cell, even with "height=100%" on 
them, when they are not the largest cell (which drives the overall height). 
What I get resembles an upside-down bar graph. In IE, the enclosed tables 
stretch to the full allowed height.

(growls under breath)

Any insight on this would be MOST appreciated.

Thanks in advance,
--Scott

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