New Open Source Shopping Cart
I recently released a beta of a new free and open source shopping cart that I have created. It is slim on features, but built to be very easy to customize. For example, you can use externally defined products (even from multiple sources) and it is very easy to add fields to any existing tables. Blog entry: http://www.bryantwebconsulting.com/blog/index.cfm/2011/2/8/New-Open-Source-ColdFusion-Shopping-Cart Docs: http://www.bryantwebconsulting.com/docs/cart/ RiaForge: http://startercart.riaforge.org/ It runs on my new Neptune framework, so that is required to use it. http://www.bryantwebconsulting.com/docs/neptune/ http://neptune.riaforge.org/ I look forward to any feedback. Thanks! Steve ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:342282 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Open Source Shopping Cart Coding Guidelines
Sorry it's taken so long to respond. Major issues in my migration to Nashville (but I'm here!) I see Sean pointed you in a good direction... Cutter Andy wrote: Cutter, Are you going to get a chance to take a first cut at this? If not, can you point me to someplace that I can use to do so? Andy ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:226263 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Open Source Shopping Cart Coding Guidelines
Welcome back. Yup. Visit https://sourceforge.net/projects/openbizservices/, sign up and send me your unix ID offline so I can add you to the project. We are getting close to needing some developer help. And if you want to take a stab at Archeticture, I've got a draft that is almost ready for some serious repair. Andy -Original Message- From: Cutter (CF-Talk) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 2:28 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Open Source Shopping Cart Coding Guidelines Sorry it's taken so long to respond. Major issues in my migration to Nashville (but I'm here!) I see Sean pointed you in a good direction... Cutter Andy wrote: Cutter, Are you going to get a chance to take a first cut at this? If not, can you point me to someplace that I can use to do so? Andy ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:226371 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Open Source Shopping Cart Update
I have opened up a project on SourceForge to use to manage the development of the application. Those who are interested in participating, please go to: https://sourceforge.net/projects/openbizservices/ register, and send me your unix ID so that I can add you to the project. I will email you back when I've added you. We will use this site for managing the development and use http://www.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ for hosting the resulting code for demonstration purposes. I've started a couple of discussion threads that we need to start making some decisions on, so I'd appreciate any and all input. Thanks, Andy ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:226016 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Open Source Shopping Cart Coding Guidelines
On 11/19/05, John C. Bland II [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there an equivalent for Flash (AS 2.0), Flex, and CF 7? http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/flash/whitepapers/actionscript_standards.pdf Not sure about Flex. I would suggest looking at Cairngorm (a micro-architecture framework that proscribes certain best practices) and the Developing Rich Clients with Macromedia Flex book: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0321255666?v=glance The coding guidelines I mentioned are for CFMX 7 (despite the link's title - I need to update that!): On 11/18/05, Sean Corfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://livedocs.macromedia.com/wtg/public/ There's also some non-Mach II guidelines about OO design in the Mach II Development Guide (also at that link). -- Sean A Corfield -- http://corfield.org/ Got frameworks? If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive. -- Margaret Atwood ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:224751 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Open Source Shopping Cart Coding Guidelines
On 11/20/05, Sean Corfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The coding guidelines I mentioned are for CFMX 7 (despite the link's title - I need to update that!): Fixed. The links now correctly say ColdFusion MX 7! -- Sean A Corfield -- http://corfield.org/ Got frameworks? If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive. -- Margaret Atwood ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:224752 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Open Source Shopping Cart Coding Guidelines
Ahh coo...thanks Sean. On 11/20/05, Sean Corfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/20/05, Sean Corfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The coding guidelines I mentioned are for CFMX 7 (despite the link's title - I need to update that!): Fixed. The links now correctly say ColdFusion MX 7! -- Sean A Corfield -- http://corfield.org/ Got frameworks? If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive. -- Margaret Atwood ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:224756 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Open Source Shopping Cart Coding Guidelines
Perfect. Thanks -Original Message- From: Sean Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 10:37 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Open Source Shopping Cart Coding Guidelines On 11/18/05, Andy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you going to get a chance to take a first cut at this? If not, can you point me to someplace that I can use to do so? http://livedocs.macromedia.com/wtg/public/ -- Sean A Corfield -- http://corfield.org/ Got frameworks? If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive. -- Margaret Atwood ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:224723 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Open Source Shopping Cart Coding Guidelines
Is there an equivalent for Flash (AS 2.0), Flex, and CF 7? On 11/18/05, Sean Corfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/18/05, Andy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you going to get a chance to take a first cut at this? If not, can you point me to someplace that I can use to do so? http://livedocs.macromedia.com/wtg/public/ -- Sean A Corfield -- http://corfield.org/ Got frameworks? If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive. -- Margaret Atwood ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:224750 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Open Source Shopping Cart Coding Guidelines
Cutter, Are you going to get a chance to take a first cut at this? If not, can you point me to someplace that I can use to do so? Andy ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:224708 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Open Source Shopping Cart Coding Guidelines
On 11/18/05, Andy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you going to get a chance to take a first cut at this? If not, can you point me to someplace that I can use to do so? http://livedocs.macromedia.com/wtg/public/ -- Sean A Corfield -- http://corfield.org/ Got frameworks? If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive. -- Margaret Atwood ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:224709 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Open source shopping cart
Make your mind up dave, one minute you don't wanna use cfc'sm then your voting for them. :-) -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 15 November 2005 22:41 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Open source shopping cart well thats kinda nuts... Given the responces that we can't agree on how to did should reaffirm the fact that it should be made in as simple a way as possible, even if that means no cfcs(which I vote for cfc's) but if it's simple enough then its just a simple matter of moving the queries to cfcs or custom tags or whatever you want. If its in 00 then your SOL on making it how you want. And yeah it should be modular (hence why cfc's should be used) but the definition of modular doesnt eq 00 ~Dave the disruptor~ good sites - make money getting rid of ie :) http://explorerdestroyer.com/ http://www.killbillsbrowser.com/ ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:224298 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Open source shopping cart
The forum has already been setup and is use at www.cfdeveloper.co.uk I wish people would rea dthe posts properly. -Original Message- From: Munson, Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 15 November 2005 22:56 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Open source shopping cart I wonder if someone should start a separate mailing list or forum for discussing the development of this shopping cart. [INFO] -- Access Manager: This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately contact the sender and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. A2 ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:224300 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Open Source Shopping Cart Architecture
I am posting this in CF-Talk versus the Shopping Cart forum becuase 1. Architecture discussion may be interesting to those not interested in Cart 2. Those not interested in Cart may wish be post opinion (please!) Lets move beyond terms OO or not OO and get to a specific architecture. Let me be the first to expose my ignorance and propose the following for comment: * Development will be based off of CFMX 7.0, or whatever the current version is once we complete the architecture plans. * We use CFC's, with exposed CFC's representing business, real life, objects such as Order, Item, User, etc. This implies that we may decide to build base components such as controllers that Users will not be able to call. Since I don't reallly understand what a controller is, I can't go any deeper then this. But I thought the term was cool... * Objects can be sent either pre-defined structures or XML. Agreement to formats will be later part of discussion * The first person using XML will submit the drafts of both the XML and the code to convert the XML to non-xml format. We will plan for the likihood that this will be needed, just don't have to build it now. * Objects will return the same format that they are sent * Objects and their methods are designed assuming that they are not persisted * Object methods are designed to complete a single business task (OK this might be obvious, but I've had a few glasses of port...) * Objects are designed to enable customization without touching base code, minimizing impact on upgrading to later versions * Objects will NEVER enable output (once debugged, of course!) * Objects will be secured via the Roles attribute, which implies that CFLoginUser has been executed prior to an object being called. This is likely to translate into the need for a User object, which is probably a good idea anyway. Folks who wish to use alternative security can pre-login users with all possible roles that their Users may require * Objects will NOT test for required variables or variable formats(date, string, integer, you get the point), except as noted below, which means that native CFMX errors will be thrown if required formats are not followed. Code can be extended as noted above if specific usage/implementation requires more User Friendly error messages * All database activity will be through stored procedures to completely decouple the application from the underlying database system. If you don't like our database design, need to denormalize for perforance, or need to add attributes, you will be able to do so without complicating upgrading to later versions. Performance will be improved by enabling even complex, multi-table adds and updates to be performed with one SQL call * All calls to the stored procedures will use CFQueryParam. Native CFMX errors will be thrown. Spoofers be damned * All calls to store procedures will include a User Name and Password, so if User required security at DB level, OOTB (Out Of The Box) solution will support Based off of these requirements, each CFC would have the following design(items in , replace with appropriate Object Name or requested path\name): Something.cfc extends(insert extended CFC here if applicable) 1. instance = struct new 2. instance.objObjectName = createObject( ...) for each Has A relationship. Do not duplicate object if it is required in multiple places(e.g. item in an order) Function Init arguments config 1. move arguments.config to structure Return This Function addXML method access=Public roles=addSomething arguments xmlInput - an XML document in defined format Return moveToXML(addObject(moveSomethingFromXML(arguments.xmlInput)) Function updateXML method access=Public roles=updateSomething arguments xmlInput - an XML document in defined format Return moveSomethingToXML(updateObject(moveSomethingFromXML(arguments.xmlInput)) Function moveSomthingFromXML method access=Public (to allow for when Something is the other side of a Has A relationship and therefore is an variable object within another object) arguments xmlInput ! Remember that this won't be coded until someone has use for XML 1. Set local variable Data as a structure 2. Move standard data elements to Data 3. If instance.Config not defined and xml\Config is defined 3.1 Move xmlInput\config to instance.config (allow single call of object to perform all required tasks. This will be an include so that it needs to be created only once for all objects) 4. If Something object extends another thing 4.1 instance.data.extended node = xmlmoveextended NameToXml(argumetns.xmlInput) 5. If Something object has a Has A relationship, for each relationship: 5.1 variables.data.has a node
re: Open Source Shopping Cart Architecture
throw in our first 3 born children and its a go ;)~ haha jk sounds good to me, just send me my task(s) and then I will post them and have the list do them hahahaha no but for real, sounds good ~Dave the disruptor~ good sites - make money getting rid of ie :) http://explorerdestroyer.com/ http://www.killbillsbrowser.com/ From: Andy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 5:48 PM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: Open Source Shopping Cart Architecture I am posting this in CF-Talk versus the Shopping Cart forum becuase 1. Architecture discussion may be interesting to those not interested in Cart 2. Those not interested in Cart may wish be post opinion (please!) Lets move beyond terms OO or not OO and get to a specific architecture. Let me be the first to expose my ignorance and propose the following for comment: * Development will be based off of CFMX 7.0, or whatever the current version is once we complete the architecture plans. * We use CFC's, with exposed CFC's representing business, real life, objects such as Order, Item, User, etc. This implies that we may decide to build base components such as controllers that Users will not be able to call. Since I don't reallly understand what a controller is, I can't go any deeper then this. But I thought the term was cool... * Objects can be sent either pre-defined structures or XML. Agreement to formats will be later part of discussion * The first person using XML will submit the drafts of both the XML and the code to convert the XML to non-xml format. We will plan for the likihood that this will be needed, just don't have to build it now. * Objects will return the same format that they are sent * Objects and their methods are designed assuming that they are not persisted * Object methods are designed to complete a single business task (OK this might be obvious, but I've had a few glasses of port...) * Objects are designed to enable customization without touching base code, minimizing impact on upgrading to later versions * Objects will NEVER enable output (once debugged, of course!) * Objects will be secured via the Roles attribute, which implies that has been executed prior to an object being called. This is likely to translate into the need for a User object, which is probably a good idea anyway. Folks who wish to use alternative security can pre-login users with all possible roles that their Users may require * Objects will NOT test for required variables or variable formats(date, string, integer, you get the point), except as noted below, which means that native CFMX errors will be thrown if required formats are not followed. Code can be extended as noted above if specific usage/implementation requires more User Friendly error messages * All database activity will be through stored procedures to completely decouple the application from the underlying database system. If you don't like our database design, need to denormalize for perforance, or need to add attributes, you will be able to do so without complicating upgrading to later versions. Performance will be improved by enabling even complex, multi-table adds and updates to be performed with one SQL call * All calls to the stored procedures will use CFQueryParam. Native CFMX errors will be thrown. Spoofers be damned * All calls to store procedures will include a User Name and Password, so if User required security at DB level, OOTB (Out Of The Box) solution will support Based off of these requirements, each CFC would have the following design(items in , replace with appropriate Object Name or requested path\name): Something.cfc extends() 1. instance = struct new 2. instance.obj = createObject( ...) for each Has A relationship. Do not duplicate object if it is required in multiple places(e.g. item in an order) Function Init arguments config 1. move arguments.config to structure Return This Function addXML method access=Public roles=addSomething arguments xmlInput - an XML document in defined format Return moveToXML(addObject(moveSomethingFromXML(arguments.xmlInput)) Function updateXML method access=Public roles=updateSomething arguments xmlInput - an XML document in defined format Return moveSomethingToXML(updateObject(moveSomethingFromXML(arguments.xmlInput)) Function moveSomthingFromXML method access=Public (to allow for when Something is the other side of a Has A relationship and therefore is an variable object within another object) arguments xmlInput XML 1. Set local variable Data as a structure 2. Move standard data elements to Data 3. If instance.Config not defined and xml\Config is defined 3.1 Move xmlInput\config to instance.config (allow single call of object to perform all required tasks. This will be an include so that it needs to be created only once for all objects) 4. If Something object extends another thing 4.1 instance.data. = xmlmove NameToXml
Re: Open Source Shopping Cart Architecture
Looks great. Only two things I might have issue with: 1. Only writing for CFMX 7 will alienate the many out there who finally moved to 6.1 (once achieving corporate approval) or who have moved to BlueDragon. An option within the install to define the server environment can enable/disable features that might be version specific (like Flash or XForms or CFDocument). 2. Use of stored procedures will alienate anyone using MySQL prior to version 5. Many shops may not upgrade for a year or more to guarantee (in their minds) stability as well as testing (kinda the same reasoning you may night want to write exclusively for MX 7...). I would suggest a DAO architecture that you could then extend for different database platforms (MSSQL, MySQL, Oracle, etc.) and include the need within the install to define the db platform being used. A good example of this can be seen by DAO CFC's written by CFCCreator. I would also suggest defining some basic coding guidelines. Code indentation, variable naming conventions, db table and column naming conventions, documentation specifications (I suggest JavaDoc), etc. This will keep everyone on the same sheet of music, make code review and revision easier, and implement some design consistency to make final packaging much cleaner. My $.02, which is all I can give with the rising moving expenses I am about to incur. Cutter ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:224448 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Open Source Shopping Cart Architecture
See In-Line comments -Original Message- From: Cutter (CF-Talk) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Looks great. Only two things I might have issue with: 1. Only writing for CFMX 7 will alienate the many out there who finally moved to 6.1 (once achieving corporate approval) or who have moved to BlueDragon. An option within the install to define the server environment can enable/disable features that might be version specific (like Flash or XForms or CFDocument). Hadn't thought of this. What do we loose besides these? Since these are output related, I don't see any immediate issue with this. 2. Use of stored procedures will alienate anyone using MySQL prior to version 5. Many shops may not upgrade for a year or more to guarantee (in their minds) stability as well as testing (kinda the same reasoning you may night want to write exclusively for MX 7...). I would suggest a DAO architecture that you could then extend for different database platforms (MSSQL, MySQL, Oracle, etc.) and include the need within the install to define the db platform being used. A good example of this can be seen by DAO CFC's written by CFCCreator. Another great catch. What's DAO architecture? I would also suggest defining some basic coding guidelines. Code indentation, variable naming conventions, db table and column naming conventions, documentation specifications (I suggest JavaDoc), etc. This will keep everyone on the same sheet of music, make code review and revision easier, and implement some design consistency to make final packaging much cleaner. Why don't you take a shot at laying this out in a separate email. What is JavaDoc? ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:224449 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Open source shopping cart
If a cart is properly written, you shouldn't need to understand or change the code to use, it should work out of the box. So whetehr or not it uses CFC's should be neithe rhere nor there. As I state dpreviously, most people who us ethe cart will want to use it out of the box and and wont even want to look at the code. Those who want to get dirty in the code and change it are most likley going to be capable of doing so. Good documentation should also make it posisble for anyone to make minor modifications. Russ -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14 November 2005 23:22 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Open source shopping cart Personally, I don't think that it would be good to go 00 at all. After all there are very few people who ACTUALLY use 00 and I see this as a 2 fold project, one to get us a good cart system and two to help get a few people over to cfm and lets be real, probably 95% of the people who would use this couldn't write their own cfc and sure it's easy to tell them to go learn but reality says they won't and they will go over to php and use a freebie over there. Hell if it was strict 00 I probably wouldn't even use it!! I agree it would be cool but I don't see a point in making it so 5% of the people could use it. If you do that then might as well make it only operate on computes that are using 2 monitors. If it's made decently then the eletists can spend a few hours on thier own and make it 00. I think the important parts are that it should look good, be safe (form cleaning up and such), be secure and be able to plug it right in and have it work within a few minutes and have the ability for the programmer to customize it how they want without having to learn anything major and yes 00 is a major thing. Cartweaver is a good example, you can plug it in and in a few minutes have it working but it's also $250 and not in cfcs and there are some security concerns but the example is good because you can just use it or customize it without learning 00 or fusebox or whatever. And in these times where if the programmer has to spend a ton of time learning it or whatever they will just go to yahoo stores or miva merchant or some crap like that. ~Dave the disruptor~ good sites - make money getting rid of ie :) http://explorerdestroyer.com/ http://www.killbillsbrowser.com/ From: Cutter (CF-Talk) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 2:49 PM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: Re: Open source shopping cart Were I not in the process of transitioning out of one position, relocating, and into a new position, then I would be offering my assistance immediately. However, as I won't have an internet connection for a while (much less the packing, moving, unpacking, etc.) I'll have to wait until I'm settled. I did want to take a moment to throw in my $.02. My daddy always told me if you're going to do a job then you should do it right the first time. Although the initial planning may take longer it is definitely worth while to make this an OO application. It is actually easier (by far) to modify and extend a well documented OO app over a procedural app. It is easier to design and apply extension modules/components. It is easier to track your program flow. Using DAO CFC's will allow you to extend the app from a multitude of database platforms. A complete separation of the business logic from you control and presentation layers will force a developer to concentrate on the data to be presented rather than the presentation (which could then be output in HTML, XHTML, XML, or even Flash). And, since you are already planning on using CFC's, a loosely coupled MVC OO approach will break down the project into easily defined subprojects. This type of approach would also make it very easy to port into most existing frameworks (Mach II, Fusebox, Model-Glue, etc.) Would an OO approach alienate a majority of users? I don't think so. If you offer a superior product, with the features they want, then the users will take the time to read documentation to make it work for them. These aren't advanced programming concepts, they're good programming practices. Those of you looking to turn this into a learning experience will gain a much better learning experience by moving forward from an OO standpoint. My two $.02. Hope it helps. Cutter ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:224238 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists
RE: Open source shopping cart
yeah but a lot of people would want to dig into it, so i'd say it should be able to run out of the box and yet be easily customizable. A lot of the stuff you are saying I agree with but I just think making it 00 is just too much, cfc and structured yes but making a product that to 5% (probably a very high estimate) of a user base just isn't good marketting. A good example of this is Plum, what if they only made it available on linux? And if you wanted to use it you had to be running linux that wouldn't be considered smart marketing. They already make it windows only and lose a good chuck of market, so I guess my thought is why lose a massive chunk of the market just so it's 00? It can be very clean and structured without being nasa code. But like I said, you guys decide and send me a task, I'll do my part reguardless. ~Dave the disruptor~ good sites - make money getting rid of ie :) http://explorerdestroyer.com/ http://www.killbillsbrowser.com/ From: Snake [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 3:11 PM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: RE: Open source shopping cart If a cart is properly written, you shouldn't need to understand or change the code to use, it should work out of the box. So whetehr or not it uses CFC's should be neithe rhere nor there. As I state dpreviously, most people who us ethe cart will want to use it out of the box and and wont even want to look at the code. Those who want to get dirty in the code and change it are most likley going to be capable of doing so. Good documentation should also make it posisble for anyone to make minor modifications. Russ -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14 November 2005 23:22 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Open source shopping cart Personally, I don't think that it would be good to go 00 at all. After all there are very few people who ACTUALLY use 00 and I see this as a 2 fold project, one to get us a good cart system and two to help get a few people over to cfm and lets be real, probably 95% of the people who would use this couldn't write their own cfc and sure it's easy to tell them to go learn but reality says they won't and they will go over to php and use a freebie over there. Hell if it was strict 00 I probably wouldn't even use it!! I agree it would be cool but I don't see a point in making it so 5% of the people could use it. If you do that then might as well make it only operate on computes that are using 2 monitors. If it's made decently then the eletists can spend a few hours on thier own and make it 00. I think the important parts are that it should look good, be safe (form cleaning up and such), be secure and be able to plug it right in and have it work within a few minutes and have the ability for the programmer to customize it how they want without having to learn anything major and yes 00 is a major thing. Cartweaver is a good example, you can plug it in and in a few minutes have it working but it's also $250 and not in cfcs and there are some security concerns but the example is good because you can just use it or customize it without learning 00 or fusebox or whatever. And in these times where if the programmer has to spend a ton of time learning it or whatever they will just go to yahoo stores or miva merchant or some crap like that. ~Dave the disruptor~ good sites - make money getting rid of ie :) http://explorerdestroyer.com/ http://www.killbillsbrowser.com/ From: Cutter (CF-Talk) Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 2:49 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Open source shopping cart Were I not in the process of transitioning out of one position, relocating, and into a new position, then I would be offering my assistance immediately. However, as I won't have an internet connection for a while (much less the packing, moving, unpacking, etc.) I'll have to wait until I'm settled. I did want to take a moment to throw in my $.02. My daddy always told me if you're going to do a job then you should do it right the first time. Although the initial planning may take longer it is definitely worth while to make this an OO application. It is actually easier (by far) to modify and extend a well documented OO app over a procedural app. It is easier to design and apply extension modules/components. It is easier to track your program flow. Using DAO CFC's will allow you to extend the app from a multitude of database platforms. A complete separation of the business logic from you control and presentation layers will force a developer to concentrate on the data to be presented rather than the presentation (which could then be output in HTML, XHTML, XML, or even Flash). And, since you are already planning on using CFC's, a loosely coupled MVC OO approach will break down the project into easily defined subprojects. This type of approach would also make it very easy to port into most existing
Re: Open source shopping cart
Even further than that. Some people will want to do something with it that nobody else in the world does with a shopping cart. That's why it's important to make it using the most easily extendable and modfication-friendly codebase as possilbe. Also, you leave the door open for others to easily add modules that aren't really store modules, but that a store owner may require. I hate buzz-words and so I'm not going to get into OO or not OO or anything like that, but when you build something like this, it's a good idea to make it as modular as possible so that it is as useful as possible to more people. --Ferg From: Snake [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 3:11 PM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: RE: Open source shopping cart If a cart is properly written, you shouldn't need to understand or change the code to use, it should work out of the box. So whetehr or not it uses CFC's should be neithe rhere nor there. As I state dpreviously, most people who us ethe cart will want to use it out of the box and and wont even want to look at the code. Those who want to get dirty in the code and change it are most likley going to be capable of doing so. Good documentation should also make it posisble for anyone to make minor modifications. Russ -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14 November 2005 23:22 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Open source shopping cart Personally, I don't think that it would be good to go 00 at all. After all there are very few people who ACTUALLY use 00 and I see this as a 2 fold project, one to get us a good cart system and two to help get a few people over to cfm and lets be real, probably 95% of the people who would use this couldn't write their own cfc and sure it's easy to tell them to go learn but reality says they won't and they will go over to php and use a freebie over there. Hell if it was strict 00 I probably wouldn't even use it!! I agree it would be cool but I don't see a point in making it so 5% of the people could use it. If you do that then might as well make it only operate on computes that are using 2 monitors. If it's made decently then the eletists can spend a few hours on thier own and make it 00. I think the important parts are that it should look good, be safe (form cleaning up and such), be secure and be able to plug it right in and have it work within a few minutes and have the ability for the programmer to customize it how they want without having to learn anything major and yes 00 is a major thing. Cartweaver is a good example, you can plug it in and in a few minutes have it working but it's also $250 and not in cfcs and there are some security concerns but the example is good because you can just use it or customize it without learning 00 or fusebox or whatever. And in these times where if the programmer has to spend a ton of time learning it or whatever they will just go to yahoo stores or miva merchant or some crap like that. ~Dave the disruptor~ good sites - make money getting rid of ie :) http://explorerdestroyer.com/ http://www.killbillsbrowser.com/ From: Cutter (CF-Talk) Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 2:49 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Open source shopping cart Were I not in the process of transitioning out of one position, relocating, and into a new position, then I would be offering my assistance immediately. However, as I won't have an internet connection for a while (much less the packing, moving, unpacking, etc.) I'll have to wait until I'm settled. I did want to take a moment to throw in my $.02. My daddy always told me if you're going to do a job then you should do it right the first time. Although the initial planning may take longer it is definitely worth while to make this an OO application. It is actually easier (by far) to modify and extend a well documented OO app over a procedural app. It is easier to design and apply extension modules/components. It is easier to track your program flow. Using DAO CFC's will allow you to extend the app from a multitude of database platforms. A complete separation of the business logic from you control and presentation layers will force a developer to concentrate on the data to be presented rather than the presentation (which could then be output in HTML, XHTML, XML, or even Flash). And, since you are already planning on using CFC's, a loosely coupled MVC OO approach will break down the project into easily defined subprojects. This type of approach would also make it very easy to port into most existing frameworks (Mach II, Fusebox, Model-Glue, etc.) Would an OO approach alienate a majority of users? I don't think so. If you offer a superior product, with the features they want, then the users will take the time to read documentation to make it work for them. These aren't advanced programming concepts, they're good programming practices. Those of you looking to turn this into a learning
RE: Open source shopping cart
Well I certainly don't see any need to use CFC's, the only reason I have found to use them is for web services, otherwise you can happily live without them. In fact there have been many instances where I have gone back to custom tags cozz CFC's wont do what I want. Russ -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 15 November 2005 20:53 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Open source shopping cart yeah but a lot of people would want to dig into it, so i'd say it should be able to run out of the box and yet be easily customizable. A lot of the stuff you are saying I agree with but I just think making it 00 is just too much, cfc and structured yes but making a product that to 5% (probably a very high estimate) of a user base just isn't good marketting. A good example of this is Plum, what if they only made it available on linux? And if you wanted to use it you had to be running linux that wouldn't be considered smart marketing. They already make it windows only and lose a good chuck of market, so I guess my thought is why lose a massive chunk of the market just so it's 00? It can be very clean and structured without being nasa code. But like I said, you guys decide and send me a task, I'll do my part reguardless. ~Dave the disruptor~ good sites - make money getting rid of ie :) http://explorerdestroyer.com/ http://www.killbillsbrowser.com/ From: Snake [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 3:11 PM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: RE: Open source shopping cart If a cart is properly written, you shouldn't need to understand or change the code to use, it should work out of the box. So whetehr or not it uses CFC's should be neithe rhere nor there. As I state dpreviously, most people who us ethe cart will want to use it out of the box and and wont even want to look at the code. Those who want to get dirty in the code and change it are most likley going to be capable of doing so. Good documentation should also make it posisble for anyone to make minor modifications. Russ -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14 November 2005 23:22 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Open source shopping cart Personally, I don't think that it would be good to go 00 at all. After all there are very few people who ACTUALLY use 00 and I see this as a 2 fold project, one to get us a good cart system and two to help get a few people over to cfm and lets be real, probably 95% of the people who would use this couldn't write their own cfc and sure it's easy to tell them to go learn but reality says they won't and they will go over to php and use a freebie over there. Hell if it was strict 00 I probably wouldn't even use it!! I agree it would be cool but I don't see a point in making it so 5% of the people could use it. If you do that then might as well make it only operate on computes that are using 2 monitors. If it's made decently then the eletists can spend a few hours on thier own and make it 00. I think the important parts are that it should look good, be safe (form cleaning up and such), be secure and be able to plug it right in and have it work within a few minutes and have the ability for the programmer to customize it how they want without having to learn anything major and yes 00 is a major thing. Cartweaver is a good example, you can plug it in and in a few minutes have it working but it's also $250 and not in cfcs and there are some security concerns but the example is good because you can just use it or customize it without learning 00 or fusebox or whatever. And in these times where if the programmer has to spend a ton of time learning it or whatever they will just go to yahoo stores or miva merchant or some crap like that. ~Dave the disruptor~ good sites - make money getting rid of ie :) http://explorerdestroyer.com/ http://www.killbillsbrowser.com/ From: Cutter (CF-Talk) Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 2:49 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Open source shopping cart Were I not in the process of transitioning out of one position, relocating, and into a new position, then I would be offering my assistance immediately. However, as I won't have an internet connection for a while (much less the packing, moving, unpacking, etc.) I'll have to wait until I'm settled. I did want to take a moment to throw in my $.02. My daddy always told me if you're going to do a job then you should do it right the first time. Although the initial planning may take longer it is definitely worth while to make this an OO application. It is actually easier (by far) to modify and extend a well documented OO app over a procedural app. It is easier to design and apply extension modules/components. It is easier to track your program flow. Using DAO CFC's will allow you to extend the app from a multitude of database platforms. A complete separation of the business logic from you control
RE: Open source shopping cart
well thats kinda nuts... Given the responces that we can't agree on how to did should reaffirm the fact that it should be made in as simple a way as possible, even if that means no cfcs(which I vote for cfc's) but if it's simple enough then its just a simple matter of moving the queries to cfcs or custom tags or whatever you want. If its in 00 then your SOL on making it how you want. And yeah it should be modular (hence why cfc's should be used) but the definition of modular doesnt eq 00 ~Dave the disruptor~ good sites - make money getting rid of ie :) http://explorerdestroyer.com/ http://www.killbillsbrowser.com/ From: Snake [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 4:45 PM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: RE: Open source shopping cart Well I certainly don't see any need to use CFC's, the only reason I have found to use them is for web services, otherwise you can happily live without them. In fact there have been many instances where I have gone back to custom tags cozz CFC's wont do what I want. Russ -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 15 November 2005 20:53 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Open source shopping cart yeah but a lot of people would want to dig into it, so i'd say it should be able to run out of the box and yet be easily customizable. A lot of the stuff you are saying I agree with but I just think making it 00 is just too much, cfc and structured yes but making a product that to 5% (probably a very high estimate) of a user base just isn't good marketting. A good example of this is Plum, what if they only made it available on linux? And if you wanted to use it you had to be running linux that wouldn't be considered smart marketing. They already make it windows only and lose a good chuck of market, so I guess my thought is why lose a massive chunk of the market just so it's 00? It can be very clean and structured without being nasa code. But like I said, you guys decide and send me a task, I'll do my part reguardless. ~Dave the disruptor~ good sites - make money getting rid of ie :) http://explorerdestroyer.com/ http://www.killbillsbrowser.com/ From: Snake Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 3:11 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Open source shopping cart If a cart is properly written, you shouldn't need to understand or change the code to use, it should work out of the box. So whetehr or not it uses CFC's should be neithe rhere nor there. As I state dpreviously, most people who us ethe cart will want to use it out of the box and and wont even want to look at the code. Those who want to get dirty in the code and change it are most likley going to be capable of doing so. Good documentation should also make it posisble for anyone to make minor modifications. Russ -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14 November 2005 23:22 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Open source shopping cart Personally, I don't think that it would be good to go 00 at all. After all there are very few people who ACTUALLY use 00 and I see this as a 2 fold project, one to get us a good cart system and two to help get a few people over to cfm and lets be real, probably 95% of the people who would use this couldn't write their own cfc and sure it's easy to tell them to go learn but reality says they won't and they will go over to php and use a freebie over there. Hell if it was strict 00 I probably wouldn't even use it!! I agree it would be cool but I don't see a point in making it so 5% of the people could use it. If you do that then might as well make it only operate on computes that are using 2 monitors. If it's made decently then the eletists can spend a few hours on thier own and make it 00. I think the important parts are that it should look good, be safe (form cleaning up and such), be secure and be able to plug it right in and have it work within a few minutes and have the ability for the programmer to customize it how they want without having to learn anything major and yes 00 is a major thing. Cartweaver is a good example, you can plug it in and in a few minutes have it working but it's also $250 and not in cfcs and there are some security concerns but the example is good because you can just use it or customize it without learning 00 or fusebox or whatever. And in these times where if the programmer has to spend a ton of time learning it or whatever they will just go to yahoo stores or miva merchant or some crap like that. ~Dave the disruptor~ good sites - make money getting rid of ie :) http://explorerdestroyer.com/ http://www.killbillsbrowser.com/ From: Cutter (CF-Talk) Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 2:49 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Open source shopping cart Were I not in the process of transitioning out of one position, relocating, and into a new position, then I would be offering
RE: Open source shopping cart
I wonder if someone should start a separate mailing list or forum for discussing the development of this shopping cart. [INFO] -- Access Manager: This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately contact the sender and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. A2 ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:224260 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Open source shopping cart
Cfdeveloper.co.uk sp far. Not a lot of progress happening so far. All I can see is discussion over whether to use OO or CFC's. (OO - object orientated ??) -Original Message- From: Munson, Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 16 November 2005 11:56 a.m. To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Open source shopping cart I wonder if someone should start a separate mailing list or forum for discussing the development of this shopping cart. [INFO] -- Access Manager: This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately contact the sender and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. A2 ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:224263 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Open source shopping cart
NEXT MOVE? Or is this closed all over again... -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 12:16 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Open source shopping cart is that 2? ~Dave the disruptor~ good sites - make money getting rid of ie :) http://explorerdestroyer.com/ http://www.killbillsbrowser.com/ From: Charlie Griefer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 11:11 PM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: Re: Open source shopping cart wot? :) On 11/10/05, dave wrote: charles... ~Dave the disruptor~ Some people just don't appreciate how difficult it is to dispense wisdom and abuse at the same time. From: Tim Laureska Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 7:29 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Open source shopping cart Who's in charge? ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:224079 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
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The forum is setup and people are using it. -Original Message- From: Aldon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14 November 2005 16:42 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Open source shopping cart NEXT MOVE? Or is this closed all over again... -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 12:16 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Open source shopping cart is that 2? ~Dave the disruptor~ good sites - make money getting rid of ie :) http://explorerdestroyer.com/ http://www.killbillsbrowser.com/ From: Charlie Griefer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 11:11 PM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: Re: Open source shopping cart wot? :) On 11/10/05, dave wrote: charles... ~Dave the disruptor~ Some people just don't appreciate how difficult it is to dispense wisdom and abuse at the same time. From: Tim Laureska Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 7:29 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Open source shopping cart Who's in charge? ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:224088 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
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Were I not in the process of transitioning out of one position, relocating, and into a new position, then I would be offering my assistance immediately. However, as I won't have an internet connection for a while (much less the packing, moving, unpacking, etc.) I'll have to wait until I'm settled. I did want to take a moment to throw in my $.02. My daddy always told me if you're going to do a job then you should do it right the first time. Although the initial planning may take longer it is definitely worth while to make this an OO application. It is actually easier (by far) to modify and extend a well documented OO app over a procedural app. It is easier to design and apply extension modules/components. It is easier to track your program flow. Using DAO CFC's will allow you to extend the app from a multitude of database platforms. A complete separation of the business logic from you control and presentation layers will force a developer to concentrate on the data to be presented rather than the presentation (which could then be output in HTML, XHTML, XML, or even Flash). And, since you are already planning on using CFC's, a loosely coupled MVC OO approach will break down the project into easily defined subprojects. This type of approach would also make it very easy to port into most existing frameworks (Mach II, Fusebox, Model-Glue, etc.) Would an OO approach alienate a majority of users? I don't think so. If you offer a superior product, with the features they want, then the users will take the time to read documentation to make it work for them. These aren't advanced programming concepts, they're good programming practices. Those of you looking to turn this into a learning experience will gain a much better learning experience by moving forward from an OO standpoint. My two $.02. Hope it helps. Cutter dave wrote: most of that sounds good but some of it is a bit over the top. If you make it 00 then it will alienate a good majority of users, needs to be simple enough that the average user can modify it. Some of the xml stuff is over most peoples heads, maybe we could end up with 2 versions and the 2nd can be a paid version with all that stuff. I know a lot of people will want to show off their skills but i think it needs to be user friendly enough for beginners to use it since they will be using it probably the most and for those ppl we try to get from php and such it will be an easier conversion. Have you noticed the ppl (including myself) that are volenteering aren't the experts on here? If it's gunna be 00 then you lose those helpers and since most of the higher end coders on here won't be helping so who's gunna go in and make all our stuff 00? other than that good plan. While you are doing that I will start on the base code and css. What are your opinions on that? I personally am using xhtml strict and mostly cssp on my current stuff, I don't mind being in charge of the base code stuff but lets agree on what to start with. I'll be more than happy to take each persons code and make it validate and all that good cross browser stuff. ~Dave the disruptor~ Some people just don't appreciate how difficult it is to dispense wisdom and abuse at the same time. From: Andy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 12:12 AM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: RE: Open source shopping cart Here are my thoughts: 1. OO 2. Design to be extended without taking out of upgrade path(pre post processing steps) 3. Provide DLL's 4. XML in and out with appropriate XSD's 5. Sample HTML and/or XSLT with CSS that can be used as a base Starting with someone elses data model is like starting coding without requirements. If we want to do this right, we need to start at the beginning. If we all chip in with the IC that we have this shouldn't take too much time to get through the documentation phase. At each stage, we create a forum for the individual parts, each of use signs up for those that they can contribute to, someone takes lead for each...We finish then move to the next step of the design. Continue until done, then move to Detailed Design. While Use Cases are being created, the Archeticts can start creating the framework within which detailed design and coding will operate within. Bottom line, this needs to be run like a large scale development project. Andy ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:224121 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
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Personally, I don't think that it would be good to go 00 at all. After all there are very few people who ACTUALLY use 00 and I see this as a 2 fold project, one to get us a good cart system and two to help get a few people over to cfm and lets be real, probably 95% of the people who would use this couldn't write their own cfc and sure it's easy to tell them to go learn but reality says they won't and they will go over to php and use a freebie over there. Hell if it was strict 00 I probably wouldn't even use it!! I agree it would be cool but I don't see a point in making it so 5% of the people could use it. If you do that then might as well make it only operate on computes that are using 2 monitors. If it's made decently then the eletists can spend a few hours on thier own and make it 00. I think the important parts are that it should look good, be safe (form cleaning up and such), be secure and be able to plug it right in and have it work within a few minutes and have the ability for the programmer to customize it how they want without having to learn anything major and yes 00 is a major thing. Cartweaver is a good example, you can plug it in and in a few minutes have it working but it's also $250 and not in cfcs and there are some security concerns but the example is good because you can just use it or customize it without learning 00 or fusebox or whatever. And in these times where if the programmer has to spend a ton of time learning it or whatever they will just go to yahoo stores or miva merchant or some crap like that. ~Dave the disruptor~ good sites - make money getting rid of ie :) http://explorerdestroyer.com/ http://www.killbillsbrowser.com/ From: Cutter (CF-Talk) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 2:49 PM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: Re: Open source shopping cart Were I not in the process of transitioning out of one position, relocating, and into a new position, then I would be offering my assistance immediately. However, as I won't have an internet connection for a while (much less the packing, moving, unpacking, etc.) I'll have to wait until I'm settled. I did want to take a moment to throw in my $.02. My daddy always told me if you're going to do a job then you should do it right the first time. Although the initial planning may take longer it is definitely worth while to make this an OO application. It is actually easier (by far) to modify and extend a well documented OO app over a procedural app. It is easier to design and apply extension modules/components. It is easier to track your program flow. Using DAO CFC's will allow you to extend the app from a multitude of database platforms. A complete separation of the business logic from you control and presentation layers will force a developer to concentrate on the data to be presented rather than the presentation (which could then be output in HTML, XHTML, XML, or even Flash). And, since you are already planning on using CFC's, a loosely coupled MVC OO approach will break down the project into easily defined subprojects. This type of approach would also make it very easy to port into most existing frameworks (Mach II, Fusebox, Model-Glue, etc.) Would an OO approach alienate a majority of users? I don't think so. If you offer a superior product, with the features they want, then the users will take the time to read documentation to make it work for them. These aren't advanced programming concepts, they're good programming practices. Those of you looking to turn this into a learning experience will gain a much better learning experience by moving forward from an OO standpoint. My two $.02. Hope it helps. Cutter ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:224149 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Open source shopping cart
With respect, I couldn't disagree more. There may be no better way to learn OO than by example, and once you grasp some basics you become immediately aware of what you've been missing and how nice it is to have everything in its proper place. Plus if it were done properly in OO, it would get more use by more serious developers, who would then enhance and release improvements back to the community. IMO the project would be pointless to do unless it were done OO. -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 4:22 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Open source shopping cart Personally, I don't think that it would be good to go 00 at all. After all there are very few people who ACTUALLY use 00 and I see this as a 2 fold project, one to get us a good cart system and two to help get a few people over to cfm and lets be real, probably 95% of the people who would use this couldn't write their own cfc and sure it's easy to tell them to go learn but reality says they won't and they will go over to php and use a freebie over there. Hell if it was strict 00 I probably wouldn't even use it!! I agree it would be cool but I don't see a point in making it so 5% of the people could use it. If you do that then might as well make it only operate on computes that are using 2 monitors. If it's made decently then the eletists can spend a few hours on thier own and make it 00. I think the important parts are that it should look good, be safe (form cleaning up and such), be secure and be able to plug it right in and have it work within a few minutes and have the ability for the programmer to customize it how they want without having to learn anything major and yes 00 is a major thing. Cartweaver is a good example, you can plug it in and in a few minutes have it working but it's also $250 and not in cfcs and there are some security concerns but the example is good because you can just use it or customize it without learning 00 or fusebox or whatever. And in these times where if the programmer has to spend a ton of time learning it or whatever they will just go to yahoo stores or miva merchant or some crap like that. ~Dave the disruptor~ good sites - make money getting rid of ie :) http://explorerdestroyer.com/ http://www.killbillsbrowser.com/ From: Cutter (CF-Talk) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 2:49 PM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: Re: Open source shopping cart Were I not in the process of transitioning out of one position, relocating, and into a new position, then I would be offering my assistance immediately. However, as I won't have an internet connection for a while (much less the packing, moving, unpacking, etc.) I'll have to wait until I'm settled. I did want to take a moment to throw in my $.02. My daddy always told me if you're going to do a job then you should do it right the first time. Although the initial planning may take longer it is definitely worth while to make this an OO application. It is actually easier (by far) to modify and extend a well documented OO app over a procedural app. It is easier to design and apply extension modules/components. It is easier to track your program flow. Using DAO CFC's will allow you to extend the app from a multitude of database platforms. A complete separation of the business logic from you control and presentation layers will force a developer to concentrate on the data to be presented rather than the presentation (which could then be output in HTML, XHTML, XML, or even Flash). And, since you are already planning on using CFC's, a loosely coupled MVC OO approach will break down the project into easily defined subprojects. This type of approach would also make it very easy to port into most existing frameworks (Mach II, Fusebox, Model-Glue, etc.) Would an OO approach alienate a majority of users? I don't think so. If you offer a superior product, with the features they want, then the users will take the time to read documentation to make it work for them. These aren't advanced programming concepts, they're good programming practices. Those of you looking to turn this into a learning experience will gain a much better learning experience by moving forward from an OO standpoint. My two $.02. Hope it helps. Cutter ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:224154 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
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Fella's, I have to back out of working on this project (conflict of interest; my company is building an enterprise e-comm project). Sorry. I do want to respond to the OO portion before I completely sign off of this task. 2cents willRespond=only if necessary Making it OO will only alienate those who want to do some sort of custom development and don't know OO. If they want to do something custom then they should read the docs (that should be well thought out and written). As far as the updates they'll desire, it shouldn't be anything more than graphical or at best a config change. If they are revamping the entire thing or even a healthy portion they are only using the cart as a guide. If it were strict OO with a config file setup the developer would only need to touch the css, images, and config file. Maybe an occassional include somewhere for a layout fix. osCommerce is a plug-n-play system. ZenCart is a plug-n-play system (can update just about everything from the admin so no code knowledge is needed). All of these free systems are there for you to drop in, customize, and launch. If you want something custom, starting from scratch would probably be best. I mean, using MVC would seem easier for me to come in and customize than procedural. All you'd need to do is update the views and you're done, unless you're overhauling the functionality in some way. I think it boils down to who this product is for. Is it for developers or e-commerce clients? If its geared towards developers, do what's best for them. If its geared towards clients, do what's best for them. /2cents L8r... On 11/14/05, dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Personally, I don't think that it would be good to go 00 at all. After all there are very few people who ACTUALLY use 00 and I see this as a 2 fold project, one to get us a good cart system and two to help get a few people over to cfm and lets be real, probably 95% of the people who would use this couldn't write their own cfc and sure it's easy to tell them to go learn but reality says they won't and they will go over to php and use a freebie over there. Hell if it was strict 00 I probably wouldn't even use it!! I agree it would be cool but I don't see a point in making it so 5% of the people could use it. If you do that then might as well make it only operate on computes that are using 2 monitors. If it's made decently then the eletists can spend a few hours on thier own and make it 00. I think the important parts are that it should look good, be safe (form cleaning up and such), be secure and be able to plug it right in and have it work within a few minutes and have the ability for the programmer to customize it how they want without having to learn anything major and yes 00 is a major thing. Cartweaver is a good example, you can plug it in and in a few minutes have it working but it's also $250 and not in cfcs and there are some security concerns but the example is good because you can just use it or customize it without learning 00 or fusebox or whatever. And in these times where if the programmer has to spend a ton of time learning it or whatever they will just go to yahoo stores or miva merchant or some crap like that. ~Dave the disruptor~ good sites - make money getting rid of ie :) http://explorerdestroyer.com/ http://www.killbillsbrowser.com/ From: Cutter (CF-Talk) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 2:49 PM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: Re: Open source shopping cart Were I not in the process of transitioning out of one position, relocating, and into a new position, then I would be offering my assistance immediately. However, as I won't have an internet connection for a while (much less the packing, moving, unpacking, etc.) I'll have to wait until I'm settled. I did want to take a moment to throw in my $.02. My daddy always told me if you're going to do a job then you should do it right the first time. Although the initial planning may take longer it is definitely worth while to make this an OO application. It is actually easier (by far) to modify and extend a well documented OO app over a procedural app. It is easier to design and apply extension modules/components. It is easier to track your program flow. Using DAO CFC's will allow you to extend the app from a multitude of database platforms. A complete separation of the business logic from you control and presentation layers will force a developer to concentrate on the data to be presented rather than the presentation (which could then be output in HTML, XHTML, XML, or even Flash). And, since you are already planning on using CFC's, a loosely coupled MVC OO approach will break down the project into easily defined subprojects. This type of approach would also make it very easy to port into most existing frameworks (Mach II, Fusebox, Model-Glue, etc.) Would an OO approach alienate a majority
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soapbox It's my opinion that this project is lacking focus in 2 very import areas and John touches on one of them. First, who is the intended audience of this project? Define that and many questions will start to be answered. Second, what's its purpose? Or said another way, what is its functionality, is it going to include the kitchen sink or not? As Dana said on the forum, we're arguing over whether to use pencils or pens and we haven't even decided what we're drawing. There needs to be a project manager/project owner who helps define these questions and then has measurable milestones so such a diverse and dispersed group will even know what is/isn't being accomoplished. Maybe this is being too much of a PHB on the list here, but I think this is doomed to fail if some structure isn't put in place. And ya' know, if you don't agree with what's done, that doesn't stop others from doing their own (e.g. one completely OO and one not). /soapbox Marty On 11/14/05, John C. Bland II [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fella's, I have to back out of working on this project (conflict of interest; my company is building an enterprise e-comm project). Sorry. I do want to respond to the OO portion before I completely sign off of this task. 2cents willRespond=only if necessary Making it OO will only alienate those who want to do some sort of custom development and don't know OO. If they want to do something custom then they should read the docs (that should be well thought out and written). As far as the updates they'll desire, it shouldn't be anything more than graphical or at best a config change. If they are revamping the entire thing or even a healthy portion they are only using the cart as a guide. If it were strict OO with a config file setup the developer would only need to touch the css, images, and config file. Maybe an occassional include somewhere for a layout fix. osCommerce is a plug-n-play system. ZenCart is a plug-n-play system (can update just about everything from the admin so no code knowledge is needed). All of these free systems are there for you to drop in, customize, and launch. If you want something custom, starting from scratch would probably be best. I mean, using MVC would seem easier for me to come in and customize than procedural. All you'd need to do is update the views and you're done, unless you're overhauling the functionality in some way. I think it boils down to who this product is for. Is it for developers or e-commerce clients? If its geared towards developers, do what's best for them. If its geared towards clients, do what's best for them. /2cents L8r... On 11/14/05, dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Personally, I don't think that it would be good to go 00 at all. After all there are very few people who ACTUALLY use 00 and I see this as a 2 fold project, one to get us a good cart system and two to help get a few people over to cfm and lets be real, probably 95% of the people who would use this couldn't write their own cfc and sure it's easy to tell them to go learn but reality says they won't and they will go over to php and use a freebie over there. Hell if it was strict 00 I probably wouldn't even use it!! I agree it would be cool but I don't see a point in making it so 5% of the people could use it. If you do that then might as well make it only operate on computes that are using 2 monitors. If it's made decently then the eletists can spend a few hours on thier own and make it 00. I think the important parts are that it should look good, be safe (form cleaning up and such), be secure and be able to plug it right in and have it work within a few minutes and have the ability for the programmer to customize it how they want without having to learn anything major and yes 00 is a major thing. Cartweaver is a good example, you can plug it in and in a few minutes have it working but it's also $250 and not in cfcs and there are some security concerns but the example is good because you can just use it or customize it without learning 00 or fusebox or whatever. And in these times where if the programmer has to spend a ton of time learning it or whatever they will just go to yahoo stores or miva merchant or some crap like that. ~Dave the disruptor~ good sites - make money getting rid of ie :) http://explorerdestroyer.com/ http://www.killbillsbrowser.com/ From: Cutter (CF-Talk) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 2:49 PM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: Re: Open source shopping cart Were I not in the process of transitioning out of one position, relocating, and into a new position, then I would be offering my assistance immediately. However, as I won't have an internet connection for a while (much less the packing, moving, unpacking, etc.) I'll have to wait until I'm settled. I
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Have you heard any further on the cfopen project andy ?? I agree with marty, we are lacking a project manager for this project. Are we all agreed that dave's site cfdeveloper.co.uk is the base site for this project ? mike -Original Message- From: Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 10 November 2005 6:11 p.m. To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Open source shopping cart Here are my thoughts: 1. OO 2. Design to be extended without taking out of upgrade path(pre post processing steps) 3. Provide DLL's 4. XML in and out with appropriate XSD's 5. Sample HTML and/or XSLT with CSS that can be used as a base Starting with someone elses data model is like starting coding without requirements. If we want to do this right, we need to start at the beginning. If we all chip in with the IC that we have this shouldn't take too much time to get through the documentation phase. At each stage, we create a forum for the individual parts, each of use signs up for those that they can contribute to, someone takes lead for each...We finish then move to the next step of the design. Continue until done, then move to Detailed Design. While Use Cases are being created, the Archeticts can start creating the framework within which detailed design and coding will operate within. Bottom line, this needs to be run like a large scale development project. Andy ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:224158 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
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I see it as making it useful for the mass amount of the users. I don't see how making it 00 for the 10 people who want it 00 over the probably thousands of people who would prefer it not to be. Most people don't have a clue what 00 even is so why force them to use it? because they won't. I know making it 00 would be nice and like i said before and someone else just said that maybe there should be 2 versions. Personally I wouldn't want one that dictates to you how to use it that's why I an most people don't use one of the available carts that's in fusebox. I know it makes sense on one hand but the reality is most people who will use it are going to be plug'n'play beginners and those who can do it in 00 would probably want to make thier own anyways and if they are getting paid for it then they should make it themselfs or half to spend sometime converting it. Most people that would be using it are going to be beginners doing small cheap sites. I'm down for whatever and I will lend my hand but I don't think it needs to be a showcase for us individually and a limited user base but a usable application available to a big audience that can be manipulated however you want. When you guys figure it out send me my task ~Dave the disruptor~ good sites - make money getting rid of ie :) http://explorerdestroyer.com/ http://www.killbillsbrowser.com/ From: Marty Johll [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 8:54 PM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: Re: Open source shopping cart It's my opinion that this project is lacking focus in 2 very import areas and John touches on one of them. First, who is the intended audience of this project? Define that and many questions will start to be answered. Second, what's its purpose? Or said another way, what is its functionality, is it going to include the kitchen sink or not? As Dana said on the forum, we're arguing over whether to use pencils or pens and we haven't even decided what we're drawing. There needs to be a project manager/project owner who helps define these questions and then has measurable milestones so such a diverse and dispersed group will even know what is/isn't being accomoplished. Maybe this is being too much of a PHB on the list here, but I think this is doomed to fail if some structure isn't put in place. And ya' know, if you don't agree with what's done, that doesn't stop others from doing their own (e.g. one completely OO and one not). Marty On 11/14/05, John C. Bland II wrote: Fella's, I have to back out of working on this project (conflict of interest; my company is building an enterprise e-comm project). Sorry. I do want to respond to the OO portion before I completely sign off of this task. 2cents willRespond=only if necessary Making it OO will only alienate those who want to do some sort of custom development and don't know OO. If they want to do something custom then they should read the docs (that should be well thought out and written). As far as the updates they'll desire, it shouldn't be anything more than graphical or at best a config change. If they are revamping the entire thing or even a healthy portion they are only using the cart as a guide. If it were strict OO with a config file setup the developer would only need to touch the css, images, and config file. Maybe an occassional include somewhere for a layout fix. osCommerce is a plug-n-play system. ZenCart is a plug-n-play system (can update just about everything from the admin so no code knowledge is needed). All of these free systems are there for you to drop in, customize, and launch. If you want something custom, starting from scratch would probably be best. I mean, using MVC would seem easier for me to come in and customize than procedural. All you'd need to do is update the views and you're done, unless you're overhauling the functionality in some way. I think it boils down to who this product is for. Is it for developers or e-commerce clients? If its geared towards developers, do what's best for them. If its geared towards clients, do what's best for them. L8r... On 11/14/05, dave wrote: Personally, I don't think that it would be good to go 00 at all. After all there are very few people who ACTUALLY use 00 and I see this as a 2 fold project, one to get us a good cart system and two to help get a few people over to cfm and lets be real, probably 95% of the people who would use this couldn't write their own cfc and sure it's easy to tell them to go learn but reality says they won't and they will go over to php and use a freebie over there. Hell if it was strict 00 I probably wouldn't even use it!! I agree it would be cool but I don't see a point in making it so 5% of the people could use it. If you do that then might as well make it only operate on computes that are using 2 monitors. If it's made decently
RE: Open source shopping cart
Dave... I'm one of those non-experts for sure and agree with your initial couple of paragraphs assuming that NOT using OO (or any other more sophisticated coding methods) compromises the value of the final product in the future. If OO is the way to go, I can step aside, watch and maybe learn something in the process I do want to help - and who is taking the lead here? We need to get this coordinated, develop a plan etc, etc... I think we need somebody to step up as the Yoda for this project, with project section coordinators - maybe this is already in place, if so, let me know IMHO Tim -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 12:27 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Open source shopping cart most of that sounds good but some of it is a bit over the top. If you make it 00 then it will alienate a good majority of users, needs to be simple enough that the average user can modify it. Some of the xml stuff is over most peoples heads, maybe we could end up with 2 versions and the 2nd can be a paid version with all that stuff. I know a lot of people will want to show off their skills but i think it needs to be user friendly enough for beginners to use it since they will be using it probably the most and for those ppl we try to get from php and such it will be an easier conversion. Have you noticed the ppl (including myself) that are volenteering aren't the experts on here? If it's gunna be 00 then you lose those helpers and since most of the higher end coders on here won't be helping so who's gunna go in and make all our stuff 00? other than that good plan. While you are doing that I will start on the base code and css. What are your opinions on that? I personally am using xhtml strict and mostly cssp on my current stuff, I don't mind being in charge of the base code stuff but lets agree on what to start with. I'll be more than happy to take each persons code and make it validate and all that good cross browser stuff. ~Dave the disruptor~ Some people just don't appreciate how difficult it is to dispense wisdom and abuse at the same time. From: Andy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 12:12 AM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: RE: Open source shopping cart Here are my thoughts: 1. OO 2. Design to be extended without taking out of upgrade path(pre post processing steps) 3. Provide DLL's 4. XML in and out with appropriate XSD's 5. Sample HTML and/or XSLT with CSS that can be used as a base Starting with someone elses data model is like starting coding without requirements. If we want to do this right, we need to start at the beginning. If we all chip in with the IC that we have this shouldn't take too much time to get through the documentation phase. At each stage, we create a forum for the individual parts, each of use signs up for those that they can contribute to, someone takes lead for each...We finish then move to the next step of the design. Continue until done, then move to Detailed Design. While Use Cases are being created, the Archeticts can start creating the framework within which detailed design and coding will operate within. Bottom line, this needs to be run like a large scale development project. Andy ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:223810 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
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Tim, see my other misc posts on this topic, I have already set the ball rolling. -Original Message- From: Tim Laureska [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 November 2005 12:05 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Open source shopping cart Dave... I'm one of those non-experts for sure and agree with your initial couple of paragraphs assuming that NOT using OO (or any other more sophisticated coding methods) compromises the value of the final product in the future. If OO is the way to go, I can step aside, watch and maybe learn something in the process I do want to help - and who is taking the lead here? We need to get this coordinated, develop a plan etc, etc... I think we need somebody to step up as the Yoda for this project, with project section coordinators - maybe this is already in place, if so, let me know IMHO Tim -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 12:27 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Open source shopping cart most of that sounds good but some of it is a bit over the top. If you make it 00 then it will alienate a good majority of users, needs to be simple enough that the average user can modify it. Some of the xml stuff is over most peoples heads, maybe we could end up with 2 versions and the 2nd can be a paid version with all that stuff. I know a lot of people will want to show off their skills but i think it needs to be user friendly enough for beginners to use it since they will be using it probably the most and for those ppl we try to get from php and such it will be an easier conversion. Have you noticed the ppl (including myself) that are volenteering aren't the experts on here? If it's gunna be 00 then you lose those helpers and since most of the higher end coders on here won't be helping so who's gunna go in and make all our stuff 00? other than that good plan. While you are doing that I will start on the base code and css. What are your opinions on that? I personally am using xhtml strict and mostly cssp on my current stuff, I don't mind being in charge of the base code stuff but lets agree on what to start with. I'll be more than happy to take each persons code and make it validate and all that good cross browser stuff. ~Dave the disruptor~ Some people just don't appreciate how difficult it is to dispense wisdom and abuse at the same time. From: Andy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 12:12 AM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: RE: Open source shopping cart Here are my thoughts: 1. OO 2. Design to be extended without taking out of upgrade path(pre post processing steps) 3. Provide DLL's 4. XML in and out with appropriate XSD's 5. Sample HTML and/or XSLT with CSS that can be used as a base Starting with someone elses data model is like starting coding without requirements. If we want to do this right, we need to start at the beginning. If we all chip in with the IC that we have this shouldn't take too much time to get through the documentation phase. At each stage, we create a forum for the individual parts, each of use signs up for those that they can contribute to, someone takes lead for each...We finish then move to the next step of the design. Continue until done, then move to Detailed Design. While Use Cases are being created, the Archeticts can start creating the framework within which detailed design and coding will operate within. Bottom line, this needs to be run like a large scale development project. Andy ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:223811 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Open source shopping cart
Who's in charge? -Original Message- From: Snake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 7:23 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Open source shopping cart Tim, see my other misc posts on this topic, I have already set the ball rolling. -Original Message- From: Tim Laureska [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 November 2005 12:05 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Open source shopping cart Dave... I'm one of those non-experts for sure and agree with your initial couple of paragraphs assuming that NOT using OO (or any other more sophisticated coding methods) compromises the value of the final product in the future. If OO is the way to go, I can step aside, watch and maybe learn something in the process I do want to help - and who is taking the lead here? We need to get this coordinated, develop a plan etc, etc... I think we need somebody to step up as the Yoda for this project, with project section coordinators - maybe this is already in place, if so, let me know IMHO Tim -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 12:27 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Open source shopping cart most of that sounds good but some of it is a bit over the top. If you make it 00 then it will alienate a good majority of users, needs to be simple enough that the average user can modify it. Some of the xml stuff is over most peoples heads, maybe we could end up with 2 versions and the 2nd can be a paid version with all that stuff. I know a lot of people will want to show off their skills but i think it needs to be user friendly enough for beginners to use it since they will be using it probably the most and for those ppl we try to get from php and such it will be an easier conversion. Have you noticed the ppl (including myself) that are volenteering aren't the experts on here? If it's gunna be 00 then you lose those helpers and since most of the higher end coders on here won't be helping so who's gunna go in and make all our stuff 00? other than that good plan. While you are doing that I will start on the base code and css. What are your opinions on that? I personally am using xhtml strict and mostly cssp on my current stuff, I don't mind being in charge of the base code stuff but lets agree on what to start with. I'll be more than happy to take each persons code and make it validate and all that good cross browser stuff. ~Dave the disruptor~ Some people just don't appreciate how difficult it is to dispense wisdom and abuse at the same time. From: Andy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 12:12 AM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: RE: Open source shopping cart Here are my thoughts: 1. OO 2. Design to be extended without taking out of upgrade path(pre post processing steps) 3. Provide DLL's 4. XML in and out with appropriate XSD's 5. Sample HTML and/or XSLT with CSS that can be used as a base Starting with someone elses data model is like starting coding without requirements. If we want to do this right, we need to start at the beginning. If we all chip in with the IC that we have this shouldn't take too much time to get through the documentation phase. At each stage, we create a forum for the individual parts, each of use signs up for those that they can contribute to, someone takes lead for each...We finish then move to the next step of the design. Continue until done, then move to Detailed Design. While Use Cases are being created, the Archeticts can start creating the framework within which detailed design and coding will operate within. Bottom line, this needs to be run like a large scale development project. Andy ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:223812 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Open source shopping cart
If you make it 00 then it will alienate a good majority of users, needs to be simple enough that the average user can modify it. Some of the xml stuff is over most peoples heads, Exact: why make it simple huh? Depends if you want to develop something purely academic and useless, or something people will use ;-) -- ___ REUSE CODE! Use custom tags; See http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags/tagstore.cfm (Please send any spam to this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Thanks. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:223831 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Open source shopping cart
I am very keen to use this as a learning experience as well as being able to use something commercially viable, so in terms of using advanced concepts I have no problem - as long as we keep the community informed with appropriate commenting/docs. It is sounding like we have several parties wanting to take the lead? It would pay to sort this out before any programming is underway? mike -Original Message- From: Claude Schneegans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 11 November 2005 4:45 a.m. To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Open source shopping cart If you make it 00 then it will alienate a good majority of users, needs to be simple enough that the average user can modify it. Some of the xml stuff is over most peoples heads, Exact: why make it simple huh? Depends if you want to develop something purely academic and useless, or something people will use ;-) -- ___ REUSE CODE! Use custom tags; See http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags/tagstore.cfm (Please send any spam to this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Thanks. ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:223864 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Open source shopping cart
I can provide hosting for the application on our dedicated server, SQL as well. I an Intermediate developer so but an excellent graphic artist icons and skins and I am focus alot on light weight design. I suggest the shopping should be component based with a cfc approach making it easy to modify the CSS and add features. Aldon -Original Message- From: Mike | NZSolutions Ltd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 4:29 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Open source shopping cart I am very keen to use this as a learning experience as well as being able to use something commercially viable, so in terms of using advanced concepts I have no problem - as long as we keep the community informed with appropriate commenting/docs. It is sounding like we have several parties wanting to take the lead? It would pay to sort this out before any programming is underway? mike -Original Message- From: Claude Schneegans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 11 November 2005 4:45 a.m. To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Open source shopping cart If you make it 00 then it will alienate a good majority of users, needs to be simple enough that the average user can modify it. Some of the xml stuff is over most peoples heads, Exact: why make it simple huh? Depends if you want to develop something purely academic and useless, or something people will use ;-) -- ___ REUSE CODE! Use custom tags; See http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags/tagstore.cfm (Please send any spam to this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Thanks. ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:223867 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Open source shopping cart
Australia to UK does generally seem to be slow. -Original Message- From: Mike | NZSolutions Ltd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 November 2005 03:14 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Open source shopping cart Yes, the forum is incredibly slow here in NZ. How are others finding it? I agree, go 6 (or =6). Cfc's usage will be a must. I would love to help with the asthetics (aeshtetics, aesthetics) - the look and feel of the app !! mike -Original Message- From: John C. Bland II [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 10 November 2005 4:02 p.m. To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Open source shopping cart Connie left quite an impression on this list huh? Interesting... Yeah, that sounds good. I tried registering for the forum but it kicked back an error to me when trying to login. It seems pretty slow too. Maybe the cross-continent thing is the prob. So, what's the structure we're looking at here? How OO are we making this? Someone on the forum asked a version #. I say nix 5 and stick with 6 , due to cfc's usage. I'd prefer it be 100% cfc's, minus display. I think the saving of items should be completely customizable so any database setup and utilize the cfc's and it work perfectly fine. Maybe on the display side the developer can simply set vars to say what's showin the table along with any other info needed. Just thoughts... On 11/9/05, dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: howz about connie? HAHA jk, can you imagine that one I work a lot too but if we all take like 1 task apiece it wont be much time, maybe a few hours each. For ex: say you are in charge of user registration, big whoopy, a few hours and you've done your part and if you want to contribute more then take something else. And then have one or two of the REALLY good coders to clean it up. And for those whom end up using the bajesus out of it but don't contribute then I think we will lock u up in a room with connie and cover you in cake and ya know.see what happens ;) ~Dave the disruptor~ Some people just don't appreciate how difficult it is to dispense wisdom and abuse at the same time. From: John C. Bland II [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 9:42 PM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: Re: Open source shopping cart Who's the champion (project lead) on this one? On 11/9/05, Mike | NZSolutions Ltd wrote: I'm onboard too! Am hoping there is some part of this project I can provide assistance. mike -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 10 November 2005 3:03 p.m. To: CF-Talk Subject: re: Open source shopping cart I'm on board and hopefully some of these ppl will get off their collective butts and chip in this time. Shouldn't take long if everyone takes a task and just gets it done. Would be cool if we did a new project every month and would help out the community a lot. Now if we can only get ppl to follow through with their words. I guess we'll find out who the true cfm lovers are ;)~ And being too busy isnt an excuse, im as busy as anyone and if i can find time so can y'all! So let's GET 'R' DONE this time! I have web space too if needed. ~Dave the disruptor~ Some people just don't appreciate how difficult it is to dispense wisdom and abuse at the same time. From: Snake Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 5:20 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Open source shopping cart OK a change to my last post. I have now created a new Open Projects category in the forums, and the shopping cart forum is now in here. For those that want to be involved, please come and register at www.cfdeveloper.co.ukand post in the main cf_shoppingcart, and we will get things moving. -- Russ ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:223889 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Open source shopping cart
I don't mean to be pedantic, but posting all the ideas and comments here is probably annoying to everyone else on this list who isn't interested in the shopping cart, and will be totally missed by anyone new who joins the project. Russ -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 November 2005 05:27 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Open source shopping cart most of that sounds good but some of it is a bit over the top. If you make it 00 then it will alienate a good majority of users, needs to be simple enough that the average user can modify it. Some of the xml stuff is over most peoples heads, maybe we could end up with 2 versions and the 2nd can be a paid version with all that stuff. I know a lot of people will want to show off their skills but i think it needs to be user friendly enough for beginners to use it since they will be using it probably the most and for those ppl we try to get from php and such it will be an easier conversion. Have you noticed the ppl (including myself) that are volenteering aren't the experts on here? If it's gunna be 00 then you lose those helpers and since most of the higher end coders on here won't be helping so who's gunna go in and make all our stuff 00? other than that good plan. While you are doing that I will start on the base code and css. What are your opinions on that? I personally am using xhtml strict and mostly cssp on my current stuff, I don't mind being in charge of the base code stuff but lets agree on what to start with. I'll be more than happy to take each persons code and make it validate and all that good cross browser stuff. ~Dave the disruptor~ Some people just don't appreciate how difficult it is to dispense wisdom and abuse at the same time. From: Andy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 12:12 AM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: RE: Open source shopping cart Here are my thoughts: 1. OO 2. Design to be extended without taking out of upgrade path(pre post processing steps) 3. Provide DLL's 4. XML in and out with appropriate XSD's 5. Sample HTML and/or XSLT with CSS that can be used as a base Starting with someone elses data model is like starting coding without requirements. If we want to do this right, we need to start at the beginning. If we all chip in with the IC that we have this shouldn't take too much time to get through the documentation phase. At each stage, we create a forum for the individual parts, each of use signs up for those that they can contribute to, someone takes lead for each...We finish then move to the next step of the design. Continue until done, then move to Detailed Design. While Use Cases are being created, the Archeticts can start creating the framework within which detailed design and coding will operate within. Bottom line, this needs to be run like a large scale development project. Andy ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:223890 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Open source shopping cart
it could be but it also could get more ppl to help. really we dont have many contributers yet and too me that really shows why php kicks are asses in this area. ~Dave the disruptor~ Some people just don't appreciate how difficult it is to dispense wisdom and abuse at the same time. From: Snake [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 7:14 PM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: RE: Open source shopping cart I don't mean to be pedantic, but posting all the ideas and comments here is probably annoying to everyone else on this list who isn't interested in the shopping cart, and will be totally missed by anyone new who joins the project. Russ -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 November 2005 05:27 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Open source shopping cart most of that sounds good but some of it is a bit over the top. If you make it 00 then it will alienate a good majority of users, needs to be simple enough that the average user can modify it. Some of the xml stuff is over most peoples heads, maybe we could end up with 2 versions and the 2nd can be a paid version with all that stuff. I know a lot of people will want to show off their skills but i think it needs to be user friendly enough for beginners to use it since they will be using it probably the most and for those ppl we try to get from php and such it will be an easier conversion. Have you noticed the ppl (including myself) that are volenteering aren't the experts on here? If it's gunna be 00 then you lose those helpers and since most of the higher end coders on here won't be helping so who's gunna go in and make all our stuff 00? other than that good plan. While you are doing that I will start on the base code and css. What are your opinions on that? I personally am using xhtml strict and mostly cssp on my current stuff, I don't mind being in charge of the base code stuff but lets agree on what to start with. I'll be more than happy to take each persons code and make it validate and all that good cross browser stuff. ~Dave the disruptor~ Some people just don't appreciate how difficult it is to dispense wisdom and abuse at the same time. From: Andy Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 12:12 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Open source shopping cart Here are my thoughts: 1. OO 2. Design to be extended without taking out of upgrade path(pre post processing steps) 3. Provide DLL's 4. XML in and out with appropriate XSD's 5. Sample HTML and/or XSLT with CSS that can be used as a base Starting with someone elses data model is like starting coding without requirements. If we want to do this right, we need to start at the beginning. If we all chip in with the IC that we have this shouldn't take too much time to get through the documentation phase. At each stage, we create a forum for the individual parts, each of use signs up for those that they can contribute to, someone takes lead for each...We finish then move to the next step of the design. Continue until done, then move to Detailed Design. While Use Cases are being created, the Archeticts can start creating the framework within which detailed design and coding will operate within. Bottom line, this needs to be run like a large scale development project. Andy ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:223903 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Open source shopping cart
charles... ~Dave the disruptor~ Some people just don't appreciate how difficult it is to dispense wisdom and abuse at the same time. From: Tim Laureska [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 7:29 AM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: RE: Open source shopping cart Who's in charge? ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:223905 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
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wot? :) On 11/10/05, dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: charles... ~Dave the disruptor~ Some people just don't appreciate how difficult it is to dispense wisdom and abuse at the same time. From: Tim Laureska [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 7:29 AM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: RE: Open source shopping cart Who's in charge? ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:223907 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
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is that 2? ~Dave the disruptor~ good sites - make money getting rid of ie :) http://explorerdestroyer.com/ http://www.killbillsbrowser.com/ From: Charlie Griefer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 11:11 PM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: Re: Open source shopping cart wot? :) On 11/10/05, dave wrote: charles... ~Dave the disruptor~ Some people just don't appreciate how difficult it is to dispense wisdom and abuse at the same time. From: Tim Laureska Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 7:29 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Open source shopping cart Who's in charge? ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:223908 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Open source shopping cart
OK a change to my last post. I have now created a new Open Projects category in the forums, and the shopping cart forum is now in here. For those that want to be involved, please come and register at www.cfdeveloper.co.uk and post in the main cf_shoppingcart, and we will get things moving. -- Russ ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:223742 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
re: Open source shopping cart
I'm on board and hopefully some of these ppl will get off their collective butts and chip in this time. Shouldn't take long if everyone takes a task and just gets it done. Would be cool if we did a new project every month and would help out the community a lot. Now if we can only get ppl to follow through with their words. I guess we'll find out who the true cfm lovers are ;)~ And being too busy isnt an excuse, im as busy as anyone and if i can find time so can y'all! So let's GET 'R' DONE this time! I have web space too if needed. ~Dave the disruptor~ Some people just don't appreciate how difficult it is to dispense wisdom and abuse at the same time. From: Snake [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 5:20 PM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: Open source shopping cart OK a change to my last post. I have now created a new Open Projects category in the forums, and the shopping cart forum is now in here. For those that want to be involved, please come and register at www.cfdeveloper.co.uk and post in the main cf_shoppingcart, and we will get things moving. -- Russ ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:223753 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Open source shopping cart
I'm onboard too! Am hoping there is some part of this project I can provide assistance. mike -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 10 November 2005 3:03 p.m. To: CF-Talk Subject: re: Open source shopping cart I'm on board and hopefully some of these ppl will get off their collective butts and chip in this time. Shouldn't take long if everyone takes a task and just gets it done. Would be cool if we did a new project every month and would help out the community a lot. Now if we can only get ppl to follow through with their words. I guess we'll find out who the true cfm lovers are ;)~ And being too busy isnt an excuse, im as busy as anyone and if i can find time so can y'all! So let's GET 'R' DONE this time! I have web space too if needed. ~Dave the disruptor~ Some people just don't appreciate how difficult it is to dispense wisdom and abuse at the same time. From: Snake [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 5:20 PM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: Open source shopping cart OK a change to my last post. I have now created a new Open Projects category in the forums, and the shopping cart forum is now in here. For those that want to be involved, please come and register at www.cfdeveloper.co.uk and post in the main cf_shoppingcart, and we will get things moving. -- Russ ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:223756 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
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I'll help... ain't the most experienced but will help however - hope to learn from the experience Tim -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 9:03 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: re: Open source shopping cart I'm on board and hopefully some of these ppl will get off their collective butts and chip in this time. Shouldn't take long if everyone takes a task and just gets it done. Would be cool if we did a new project every month and would help out the community a lot. Now if we can only get ppl to follow through with their words. I guess we'll find out who the true cfm lovers are ;)~ And being too busy isnt an excuse, im as busy as anyone and if i can find time so can y'all! So let's GET 'R' DONE this time! I have web space too if needed. ~Dave the disruptor~ Some people just don't appreciate how difficult it is to dispense wisdom and abuse at the same time. From: Snake [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 5:20 PM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: Open source shopping cart OK a change to my last post. I have now created a new Open Projects category in the forums, and the shopping cart forum is now in here. For those that want to be involved, please come and register at www.cfdeveloper.co.uk and post in the main cf_shoppingcart, and we will get things moving. -- Russ ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:223757 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
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You can count me in as well. We also have Gemini by Countersoft installed (not licensed yet; will do in the next week or so) which we could all use to track bugs and what-not. I am busy (60+ hours/week seriously) so I don't have a ton of time but I can put in maybe 5 to 10 hours a week (maybe). (web space available as well) On 11/9/05, Tim Laureska [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll help... ain't the most experienced but will help however - hope to learn from the experience Tim -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 9:03 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: re: Open source shopping cart I'm on board and hopefully some of these ppl will get off their collective butts and chip in this time. Shouldn't take long if everyone takes a task and just gets it done. Would be cool if we did a new project every month and would help out the community a lot. Now if we can only get ppl to follow through with their words. I guess we'll find out who the true cfm lovers are ;)~ And being too busy isnt an excuse, im as busy as anyone and if i can find time so can y'all! So let's GET 'R' DONE this time! I have web space too if needed. ~Dave the disruptor~ Some people just don't appreciate how difficult it is to dispense wisdom and abuse at the same time. From: Snake [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 5:20 PM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: Open source shopping cart OK a change to my last post. I have now created a new Open Projects category in the forums, and the shopping cart forum is now in here. For those that want to be involved, please come and register at www.cfdeveloper.co.uk http://www.cfdeveloper.co.uk and post in the main cf_shoppingcart, and we will get things moving. -- Russ ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:223758 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Open source shopping cart
Who's the champion (project lead) on this one? On 11/9/05, Mike | NZSolutions Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm onboard too! Am hoping there is some part of this project I can provide assistance. mike -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 10 November 2005 3:03 p.m. To: CF-Talk Subject: re: Open source shopping cart I'm on board and hopefully some of these ppl will get off their collective butts and chip in this time. Shouldn't take long if everyone takes a task and just gets it done. Would be cool if we did a new project every month and would help out the community a lot. Now if we can only get ppl to follow through with their words. I guess we'll find out who the true cfm lovers are ;)~ And being too busy isnt an excuse, im as busy as anyone and if i can find time so can y'all! So let's GET 'R' DONE this time! I have web space too if needed. ~Dave the disruptor~ Some people just don't appreciate how difficult it is to dispense wisdom and abuse at the same time. From: Snake [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 5:20 PM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: Open source shopping cart OK a change to my last post. I have now created a new Open Projects category in the forums, and the shopping cart forum is now in here. For those that want to be involved, please come and register at www.cfdeveloper.co.ukhttp://www.cfdeveloper.co.ukand post in the main cf_shoppingcart, and we will get things moving. -- Russ ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:223761 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Open source shopping cart
howz about connie? HAHA jk, can you imagine that one I work a lot too but if we all take like 1 task apiece it wont be much time, maybe a few hours each. For ex: say you are in charge of user registration, big whoopy, a few hours and you've done your part and if you want to contribute more then take something else. And then have one or two of the REALLY good coders to clean it up. And for those whom end up using the bajesus out of it but don't contribute then I think we will lock u up in a room with connie and cover you in cake and ya know.see what happens ;) ~Dave the disruptor~ Some people just don't appreciate how difficult it is to dispense wisdom and abuse at the same time. From: John C. Bland II [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 9:42 PM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: Re: Open source shopping cart Who's the champion (project lead) on this one? On 11/9/05, Mike | NZSolutions Ltd wrote: I'm onboard too! Am hoping there is some part of this project I can provide assistance. mike -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 10 November 2005 3:03 p.m. To: CF-Talk Subject: re: Open source shopping cart I'm on board and hopefully some of these ppl will get off their collective butts and chip in this time. Shouldn't take long if everyone takes a task and just gets it done. Would be cool if we did a new project every month and would help out the community a lot. Now if we can only get ppl to follow through with their words. I guess we'll find out who the true cfm lovers are ;)~ And being too busy isnt an excuse, im as busy as anyone and if i can find time so can y'all! So let's GET 'R' DONE this time! I have web space too if needed. ~Dave the disruptor~ Some people just don't appreciate how difficult it is to dispense wisdom and abuse at the same time. From: Snake Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 5:20 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Open source shopping cart OK a change to my last post. I have now created a new Open Projects category in the forums, and the shopping cart forum is now in here. For those that want to be involved, please come and register at www.cfdeveloper.co.ukand post in the main cf_shoppingcart, and we will get things moving. -- Russ ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:223763 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Open source shopping cart
Connie left quite an impression on this list huh? Interesting... Yeah, that sounds good. I tried registering for the forum but it kicked back an error to me when trying to login. It seems pretty slow too. Maybe the cross-continent thing is the prob. So, what's the structure we're looking at here? How OO are we making this? Someone on the forum asked a version #. I say nix 5 and stick with 6 , due to cfc's usage. I'd prefer it be 100% cfc's, minus display. I think the saving of items should be completely customizable so any database setup and utilize the cfc's and it work perfectly fine. Maybe on the display side the developer can simply set vars to say what's showin the table along with any other info needed. Just thoughts... On 11/9/05, dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: howz about connie? HAHA jk, can you imagine that one I work a lot too but if we all take like 1 task apiece it wont be much time, maybe a few hours each. For ex: say you are in charge of user registration, big whoopy, a few hours and you've done your part and if you want to contribute more then take something else. And then have one or two of the REALLY good coders to clean it up. And for those whom end up using the bajesus out of it but don't contribute then I think we will lock u up in a room with connie and cover you in cake and ya know.see what happens ;) ~Dave the disruptor~ Some people just don't appreciate how difficult it is to dispense wisdom and abuse at the same time. From: John C. Bland II [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 9:42 PM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: Re: Open source shopping cart Who's the champion (project lead) on this one? On 11/9/05, Mike | NZSolutions Ltd wrote: I'm onboard too! Am hoping there is some part of this project I can provide assistance. mike -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 10 November 2005 3:03 p.m. To: CF-Talk Subject: re: Open source shopping cart I'm on board and hopefully some of these ppl will get off their collective butts and chip in this time. Shouldn't take long if everyone takes a task and just gets it done. Would be cool if we did a new project every month and would help out the community a lot. Now if we can only get ppl to follow through with their words. I guess we'll find out who the true cfm lovers are ;)~ And being too busy isnt an excuse, im as busy as anyone and if i can find time so can y'all! So let's GET 'R' DONE this time! I have web space too if needed. ~Dave the disruptor~ Some people just don't appreciate how difficult it is to dispense wisdom and abuse at the same time. From: Snake Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 5:20 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Open source shopping cart OK a change to my last post. I have now created a new Open Projects category in the forums, and the shopping cart forum is now in here. For those that want to be involved, please come and register at www.cfdeveloper.co.ukand post in the main cf_shoppingcart, and we will get things moving. -- Russ ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:223764 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Open source shopping cart
Yes, the forum is incredibly slow here in NZ. How are others finding it? I agree, go 6 (or =6). Cfc's usage will be a must. I would love to help with the asthetics (aeshtetics, aesthetics) - the look and feel of the app !! mike -Original Message- From: John C. Bland II [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 10 November 2005 4:02 p.m. To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Open source shopping cart Connie left quite an impression on this list huh? Interesting... Yeah, that sounds good. I tried registering for the forum but it kicked back an error to me when trying to login. It seems pretty slow too. Maybe the cross-continent thing is the prob. So, what's the structure we're looking at here? How OO are we making this? Someone on the forum asked a version #. I say nix 5 and stick with 6 , due to cfc's usage. I'd prefer it be 100% cfc's, minus display. I think the saving of items should be completely customizable so any database setup and utilize the cfc's and it work perfectly fine. Maybe on the display side the developer can simply set vars to say what's showin the table along with any other info needed. Just thoughts... On 11/9/05, dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: howz about connie? HAHA jk, can you imagine that one I work a lot too but if we all take like 1 task apiece it wont be much time, maybe a few hours each. For ex: say you are in charge of user registration, big whoopy, a few hours and you've done your part and if you want to contribute more then take something else. And then have one or two of the REALLY good coders to clean it up. And for those whom end up using the bajesus out of it but don't contribute then I think we will lock u up in a room with connie and cover you in cake and ya know.see what happens ;) ~Dave the disruptor~ Some people just don't appreciate how difficult it is to dispense wisdom and abuse at the same time. From: John C. Bland II [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 9:42 PM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: Re: Open source shopping cart Who's the champion (project lead) on this one? On 11/9/05, Mike | NZSolutions Ltd wrote: I'm onboard too! Am hoping there is some part of this project I can provide assistance. mike -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 10 November 2005 3:03 p.m. To: CF-Talk Subject: re: Open source shopping cart I'm on board and hopefully some of these ppl will get off their collective butts and chip in this time. Shouldn't take long if everyone takes a task and just gets it done. Would be cool if we did a new project every month and would help out the community a lot. Now if we can only get ppl to follow through with their words. I guess we'll find out who the true cfm lovers are ;)~ And being too busy isnt an excuse, im as busy as anyone and if i can find time so can y'all! So let's GET 'R' DONE this time! I have web space too if needed. ~Dave the disruptor~ Some people just don't appreciate how difficult it is to dispense wisdom and abuse at the same time. From: Snake Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 5:20 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Open source shopping cart OK a change to my last post. I have now created a new Open Projects category in the forums, and the shopping cart forum is now in here. For those that want to be involved, please come and register at www.cfdeveloper.co.ukand post in the main cf_shoppingcart, and we will get things moving. -- Russ ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:223765 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Open source shopping cart
yeah connie was a jem. he's lucky i didnt sue his ass off! I think it should be with cfc's but I'd hesitate to use 00 because that will scare a lot of people off, if they user wants to make it 00 then it should be easy to modify though, same with frame works, I wouldnt think we should make it fusebox or anything because it leaves people out. Like i posted on the board we should take it in small chunks in an at least semi organized way so it will be built in a flowing motion so its not a big mess. We need a plan of action and a square one section, I was thinking start with the company info then add users, ect. I would say my stonger suit is compliance and design so I can head that up but I'd be more than happy to star on the first task. I think someone needs to head up a to-do list, someone with good cart experience and we'll go from there, an takers? I'm busy as a mofo but if need by I will try and over see things. ~Dave the disruptor~ Some people just don't appreciate how difficult it is to dispense wisdom and abuse at the same time. From: John C. Bland II [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 10:02 PM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: Re: Open source shopping cart Connie left quite an impression on this list huh? Interesting... Yeah, that sounds good. I tried registering for the forum but it kicked back an error to me when trying to login. It seems pretty slow too. Maybe the cross-continent thing is the prob. So, what's the structure we're looking at here? How OO are we making this? Someone on the forum asked a version #. I say nix 5 and stick with 6 , due to cfc's usage. I'd prefer it be 100% cfc's, minus display. I think the saving of items should be completely customizable so any database setup and utilize the cfc's and it work perfectly fine. Maybe on the display side the developer can simply set vars to say what's showin the table along with any other info needed. Just thoughts... ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:223766 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Open source shopping cart
Not slow in U.S.A. -Original Message- From: Mike | NZSolutions Ltd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 10:14 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Open source shopping cart Yes, the forum is incredibly slow here in NZ. How are others finding it? I agree, go 6 (or =6). Cfc's usage will be a must. I would love to help with the asthetics (aeshtetics, aesthetics) - the look and feel of the app !! mike -Original Message- From: John C. Bland II [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 10 November 2005 4:02 p.m. To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Open source shopping cart Connie left quite an impression on this list huh? Interesting... Yeah, that sounds good. I tried registering for the forum but it kicked back an error to me when trying to login. It seems pretty slow too. Maybe the cross-continent thing is the prob. So, what's the structure we're looking at here? How OO are we making this? Someone on the forum asked a version #. I say nix 5 and stick with 6 , due to cfc's usage. I'd prefer it be 100% cfc's, minus display. I think the saving of items should be completely customizable so any database setup and utilize the cfc's and it work perfectly fine. Maybe on the display side the developer can simply set vars to say what's showin the table along with any other info needed. Just thoughts... On 11/9/05, dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: howz about connie? HAHA jk, can you imagine that one I work a lot too but if we all take like 1 task apiece it wont be much time, maybe a few hours each. For ex: say you are in charge of user registration, big whoopy, a few hours and you've done your part and if you want to contribute more then take something else. And then have one or two of the REALLY good coders to clean it up. And for those whom end up using the bajesus out of it but don't contribute then I think we will lock u up in a room with connie and cover you in cake and ya know.see what happens ;) ~Dave the disruptor~ Some people just don't appreciate how difficult it is to dispense wisdom and abuse at the same time. From: John C. Bland II [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 9:42 PM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: Re: Open source shopping cart Who's the champion (project lead) on this one? On 11/9/05, Mike | NZSolutions Ltd wrote: I'm onboard too! Am hoping there is some part of this project I can provide assistance. mike -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 10 November 2005 3:03 p.m. To: CF-Talk Subject: re: Open source shopping cart I'm on board and hopefully some of these ppl will get off their collective butts and chip in this time. Shouldn't take long if everyone takes a task and just gets it done. Would be cool if we did a new project every month and would help out the community a lot. Now if we can only get ppl to follow through with their words. I guess we'll find out who the true cfm lovers are ;)~ And being too busy isnt an excuse, im as busy as anyone and if i can find time so can y'all! So let's GET 'R' DONE this time! I have web space too if needed. ~Dave the disruptor~ Some people just don't appreciate how difficult it is to dispense wisdom and abuse at the same time. From: Snake Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 5:20 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Open source shopping cart OK a change to my last post. I have now created a new Open Projects category in the forums, and the shopping cart forum is now in here. For those that want to be involved, please come and register at www.cfdeveloper.co.ukand post in the main cf_shoppingcart, and we will get things moving. -- Russ ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:223767 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
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Mike, I'm 100% about look and feel (not doing it, just it being done right). I believe this is as big as almost anything. If its 100% XHTML+CSS it'll be simple for developers to come in and skin it accordingly. Easy css class names and element names are a + as well. On 11/9/05, Mike | NZSolutions Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, the forum is incredibly slow here in NZ. How are others finding it? I agree, go 6 (or =6). Cfc's usage will be a must. I would love to help with the asthetics (aeshtetics, aesthetics) - the look and feel of the app !! mike -Original Message- From: John C. Bland II [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 10 November 2005 4:02 p.m. To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Open source shopping cart Connie left quite an impression on this list huh? Interesting... Yeah, that sounds good. I tried registering for the forum but it kicked back an error to me when trying to login. It seems pretty slow too. Maybe the cross-continent thing is the prob. So, what's the structure we're looking at here? How OO are we making this? Someone on the forum asked a version #. I say nix 5 and stick with 6 , due to cfc's usage. I'd prefer it be 100% cfc's, minus display. I think the saving of items should be completely customizable so any database setup and utilize the cfc's and it work perfectly fine. Maybe on the display side the developer can simply set vars to say what's showin the table along with any other info needed. Just thoughts... On 11/9/05, dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: howz about connie? HAHA jk, can you imagine that one I work a lot too but if we all take like 1 task apiece it wont be much time, maybe a few hours each. For ex: say you are in charge of user registration, big whoopy, a few hours and you've done your part and if you want to contribute more then take something else. And then have one or two of the REALLY good coders to clean it up. And for those whom end up using the bajesus out of it but don't contribute then I think we will lock u up in a room with connie and cover you in cake and ya know.see what happens ;) ~Dave the disruptor~ Some people just don't appreciate how difficult it is to dispense wisdom and abuse at the same time. From: John C. Bland II [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 9:42 PM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: Re: Open source shopping cart Who's the champion (project lead) on this one? On 11/9/05, Mike | NZSolutions Ltd wrote: I'm onboard too! Am hoping there is some part of this project I can provide assistance. mike -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 10 November 2005 3:03 p.m. To: CF-Talk Subject: re: Open source shopping cart I'm on board and hopefully some of these ppl will get off their collective butts and chip in this time. Shouldn't take long if everyone takes a task and just gets it done. Would be cool if we did a new project every month and would help out the community a lot. Now if we can only get ppl to follow through with their words. I guess we'll find out who the true cfm lovers are ;)~ And being too busy isnt an excuse, im as busy as anyone and if i can find time so can y'all! So let's GET 'R' DONE this time! I have web space too if needed. ~Dave the disruptor~ Some people just don't appreciate how difficult it is to dispense wisdom and abuse at the same time. From: Snake Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 5:20 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Open source shopping cart OK a change to my last post. I have now created a new Open Projects category in the forums, and the shopping cart forum is now in here. For those that want to be involved, please come and register at www.cfdeveloper.co.ukand post in the main cf_shoppingcart, and we will get things moving. -- Russ ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:223768 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Open source shopping cart
Mike, I'm 100% about look and feel (not doing it, just it being done right). I believe this is as big as almost anything. If its 100% XHTML+CSS it'll be simple for developers to come in and skin it accordingly. Easy css class names and element names are a + as well. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:223769 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
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Real slow in Arizona. Could be me or my area but its pretty bad. -- John C. Bland II I do what I can do when I can do it. - Chris Tucker, Money Talks http://www.gotoandstop.org - Home of FMUG.az ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:223770 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Open source shopping cart
Hey guys, I would love to help, but I don't think my coding skills are up to the task. I could help with documentation and planning though. I would suggest you start by finding a PHP open source shopping cart that has the structure and features you want. That way at least everyone knows what the target is going to be. Mark ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:223771 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Open source shopping cart
In terms of site structure/architecture - I love how easy it is to update/modify raymond camden's blog app. It took even me (your lowest common denominator!) a very small amount of time to adapt the app to my shared hosting environment and modify the css settings. -Original Message- From: John C. Bland II [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 10 November 2005 4:22 p.m. To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Open source shopping cart Real slow in Arizona. Could be me or my area but its pretty bad. -- John C. Bland II I do what I can do when I can do it. - Chris Tucker, Money Talks http://www.gotoandstop.org - Home of FMUG.az ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:223772 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
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I downloaded it, installed it, but didn't take the time to implement (no time to blog anyway, lol). Maybe that's a good start. On 11/9/05, Mike | NZSolutions Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In terms of site structure/architecture - I love how easy it is to update/modify raymond camden's blog app. It took even me (your lowest common denominator!) a very small amount of time to adapt the app to my shared hosting environment and modify the css settings. -Original Message- From: John C. Bland II [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 10 November 2005 4:22 p.m. To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Open source shopping cart Real slow in Arizona. Could be me or my area but its pretty bad. -- John C. Bland II I do what I can do when I can do it. - Chris Tucker, Money Talks http://www.gotoandstop.org - Home of FMUG.az ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:223774 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
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Yeah, I can understand leaving some folks out. I'm still leaning towards OO just maybe not as strong. Either way I'm down. I've built several carts but don't have near enough time to champion this one, not like I'd want. I'd love to work on the cfc(s). -- John C. Bland II I do what I can do when I can do it. - Chris Tucker, Money Talks http://www.gotoandstop.org - Home of FMUG.az ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:223777 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Open source shopping cart
its ok if your skills arent up to task because we will have to have a few of the pros go thru and clean it all up. ~Dave the disruptor~ Some people just don't appreciate how difficult it is to dispense wisdom and abuse at the same time. From: Mark Fuqua [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 10:24 PM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: RE: Open source shopping cart Hey guys, I would love to help, but I don't think my coding skills are up to the task. I could help with documentation and planning though. I would suggest you start by finding a PHP open source shopping cart that has the structure and features you want. That way at least everyone knows what the target is going to be. Mark ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:223779 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
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I have heard several ppl say that the db scheme from oscommerce is pretty good, so maybe we should start with getting the db done. So we will need a decent db person to head this up. Also I know that a lot of people will want sql server buy since it's goinbg to be open source I think we should use mysql to stay with the theme and because its freely available and some of us choose not to use windows stuff. Is the oscommerce db already done? if so maybe we just need someone to give it a good looking over. ~Dave the disruptor~ Some people just don't appreciate how difficult it is to dispense wisdom and abuse at the same time. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:223780 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
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http://www.oscommerce.com - a very good php model. I have emailed the db schema to dave to have a look at - a possible good starting point for the db design. mike -Original Message- From: Mark Fuqua [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 10 November 2005 4:22 p.m. To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Open source shopping cart Hey guys, I would love to help, but I don't think my coding skills are up to the task. I could help with documentation and planning though. I would suggest you start by finding a PHP open source shopping cart that has the structure and features you want. That way at least everyone knows what the target is going to be. Mark ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:223781 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Open source shopping cart
Ahh...for whatever reason I thought we were only doing the shopping cart...not a full open source store. :-) Gotta change my mindset now... On 11/9/05, Mike | NZSolutions Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.oscommerce.com - a very good php model. I have emailed the db schema to dave to have a look at - a possible good starting point for the db design. mike -Original Message- From: Mark Fuqua [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 10 November 2005 4:22 p.m. To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Open source shopping cart Hey guys, I would love to help, but I don't think my coding skills are up to the task. I could help with documentation and planning though. I would suggest you start by finding a PHP open source shopping cart that has the structure and features you want. That way at least everyone knows what the target is going to be. Mark ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:223784 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Open source shopping cart
www.jamwerx.com/cfcart/cf_opencart.sql there is the db scheme, anyone want to look at it and take a go at the sql model? ~Dave the disruptor~ Some people just don't appreciate how difficult it is to dispense wisdom and abuse at the same time. ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:223786 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Open source shopping cart
Well... Probably a very good time to consider what the extent of the app will include. Personally, the ability to manage both the backend (orders) and the frontend store (including cart) would be pretty cool. mike -Original Message- From: John C. Bland II [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 10 November 2005 4:55 p.m. To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Open source shopping cart Ahh...for whatever reason I thought we were only doing the shopping cart...not a full open source store. :-) Gotta change my mindset now... On 11/9/05, Mike | NZSolutions Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.oscommerce.com - a very good php model. I have emailed the db schema to dave to have a look at - a possible good starting point for the db design. mike -Original Message- From: Mark Fuqua [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 10 November 2005 4:22 p.m. To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Open source shopping cart Hey guys, I would love to help, but I don't think my coding skills are up to the task. I could help with documentation and planning though. I would suggest you start by finding a PHP open source shopping cart that has the structure and features you want. That way at least everyone knows what the target is going to be. Mark ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:223788 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Open source shopping cart
http://www.cartfusion.com/ That showed up in my google ads. :-) On 11/9/05, Mike | NZSolutions Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well... Probably a very good time to consider what the extent of the app will include. Personally, the ability to manage both the backend (orders) and the frontend store (including cart) would be pretty cool. mike -Original Message- From: John C. Bland II [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 10 November 2005 4:55 p.m. To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Open source shopping cart Ahh...for whatever reason I thought we were only doing the shopping cart...not a full open source store. :-) Gotta change my mindset now... On 11/9/05, Mike | NZSolutions Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.oscommerce.com - a very good php model. I have emailed the db schema to dave to have a look at - a possible good starting point for the db design. mike -Original Message- From: Mark Fuqua [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 10 November 2005 4:22 p.m. To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Open source shopping cart Hey guys, I would love to help, but I don't think my coding skills are up to the task. I could help with documentation and planning though. I would suggest you start by finding a PHP open source shopping cart that has the structure and features you want. That way at least everyone knows what the target is going to be. Mark ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:223789 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Open source shopping cart
well i hope their links actually work on the cart, nothing better than trying to click on the more info link and no link is there. ~Dave the disruptor~ Some people just don't appreciate how difficult it is to dispense wisdom and abuse at the same time. From: John C. Bland II [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 11:12 PM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: Re: Open source shopping cart http://www.cartfusion.com/ That showed up in my google ads. :-) On 11/9/05, Mike | NZSolutions Ltd wrote: Well... Probably a very good time to consider what the extent of the app will include. Personally, the ability to manage both the backend (orders) and the frontend store (including cart) would be pretty cool. mike -Original Message- From: John C. Bland II [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 10 November 2005 4:55 p.m. To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Open source shopping cart Ahh...for whatever reason I thought we were only doing the shopping cart...not a full open source store. :-) Gotta change my mindset now... On 11/9/05, Mike | NZSolutions Ltd wrote: http://www.oscommerce.com - a very good php model. I have emailed the db schema to dave to have a look at - a possible good starting point for the db design. mike -Original Message- From: Mark Fuqua [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 10 November 2005 4:22 p.m. To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Open source shopping cart Hey guys, I would love to help, but I don't think my coding skills are up to the task. I could help with documentation and planning though. I would suggest you start by finding a PHP open source shopping cart that has the structure and features you want. That way at least everyone knows what the target is going to be. Mark ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:223790 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Open source shopping cart
I've just registered as well. Now how to harness all of this energy -Original Message- From: Snake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 4:20 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Open source shopping cart OK a change to my last post. I have now created a new Open Projects category in the forums, and the shopping cart forum is now in here. For those that want to be involved, please come and register at www.cfdeveloper.co.uk and post in the main cf_shoppingcart, and we will get things moving. -- Russ ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:223794 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Open source shopping cart
Here are my thoughts: 1. OO 2. Design to be extended without taking out of upgrade path(pre post processing steps) 3. Provide DLL's 4. XML in and out with appropriate XSD's 5. Sample HTML and/or XSLT with CSS that can be used as a base Starting with someone elses data model is like starting coding without requirements. If we want to do this right, we need to start at the beginning. If we all chip in with the IC that we have this shouldn't take too much time to get through the documentation phase. At each stage, we create a forum for the individual parts, each of use signs up for those that they can contribute to, someone takes lead for each...We finish then move to the next step of the design. Continue until done, then move to Detailed Design. While Use Cases are being created, the Archeticts can start creating the framework within which detailed design and coding will operate within. Bottom line, this needs to be run like a large scale development project. Andy ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:223796 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Open source shopping cart
most of that sounds good but some of it is a bit over the top. If you make it 00 then it will alienate a good majority of users, needs to be simple enough that the average user can modify it. Some of the xml stuff is over most peoples heads, maybe we could end up with 2 versions and the 2nd can be a paid version with all that stuff. I know a lot of people will want to show off their skills but i think it needs to be user friendly enough for beginners to use it since they will be using it probably the most and for those ppl we try to get from php and such it will be an easier conversion. Have you noticed the ppl (including myself) that are volenteering aren't the experts on here? If it's gunna be 00 then you lose those helpers and since most of the higher end coders on here won't be helping so who's gunna go in and make all our stuff 00? other than that good plan. While you are doing that I will start on the base code and css. What are your opinions on that? I personally am using xhtml strict and mostly cssp on my current stuff, I don't mind being in charge of the base code stuff but lets agree on what to start with. I'll be more than happy to take each persons code and make it validate and all that good cross browser stuff. ~Dave the disruptor~ Some people just don't appreciate how difficult it is to dispense wisdom and abuse at the same time. From: Andy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 12:12 AM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: RE: Open source shopping cart Here are my thoughts: 1. OO 2. Design to be extended without taking out of upgrade path(pre post processing steps) 3. Provide DLL's 4. XML in and out with appropriate XSD's 5. Sample HTML and/or XSLT with CSS that can be used as a base Starting with someone elses data model is like starting coding without requirements. If we want to do this right, we need to start at the beginning. If we all chip in with the IC that we have this shouldn't take too much time to get through the documentation phase. At each stage, we create a forum for the individual parts, each of use signs up for those that they can contribute to, someone takes lead for each...We finish then move to the next step of the design. Continue until done, then move to Detailed Design. While Use Cases are being created, the Archeticts can start creating the framework within which detailed design and coding will operate within. Bottom line, this needs to be run like a large scale development project. Andy ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:223797 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Starting Open Source Shopping Cart
My (first) $.02 Address: A physical location. Address is a complex subset(s) of user, affiliate, partner, store, wharehouse, etc., etc.. How about CFOEC (CF Open E Commerce) Cutter Andy wrote: First decision is which site to use to coordinate our efforts. Any advantage to one site versus another? Once we decide this, I'll open a project and we can move the dialog to there. Second step is to agree on some definnitions to help us to move forward. Let me offer a first cut at some definitions: Product: A single item that can be bought or sold Shopping Cart: A set of products and order quantities that may or may not be purchased Address: A phyisical location to which order confirmations, invoices, bills, orders, etc, can be mailed or otherwise delivered to Order: A set of products and requested quantities and shipping and billing information that are to be shipped to a single location Purchase Order: A grouping of one or more orders associated with a single authorization Let the party begin Andy ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:222162 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Starting Open Source Shopping Cart
Useful project to consider (in java) :The Open For Business Project - www.ofbiz.org http://www.ofbiz.org On 10/25/05, Cutter (CF-Talk) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My (first) $.02 Address: A physical location. Address is a complex subset(s) of user, affiliate, partner, store, wharehouse, etc., etc.. How about CFOEC (CF Open E Commerce) Cutter Andy wrote: First decision is which site to use to coordinate our efforts. Any advantage to one site versus another? Once we decide this, I'll open a project and we can move the dialog to there. Second step is to agree on some definnitions to help us to move forward. Let me offer a first cut at some definitions: Product: A single item that can be bought or sold Shopping Cart: A set of products and order quantities that may or may not be purchased Address: A phyisical location to which order confirmations, invoices, bills, orders, etc, can be mailed or otherwise delivered to Order: A set of products and requested quantities and shipping and billing information that are to be shipped to a single location Purchase Order: A grouping of one or more orders associated with a single authorization Let the party begin Andy ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:222163 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Open Source Shopping Cart (was: Shopping Cart)
-Original Message- From: Alan Rother [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Not to take this thread in a whole new direction, but is anyone else offended that the cfopen.org http://cfopen.org project is written in PHP? Another thought... rubyforge.org, the cfopen.org equivelent for Ruby (and Ruby on Rails, the current belle of the web development media ball) also uses Gforge (http://gforge.org/), the project that forked from the original Sourceforge code after one of the original developers was let go. Gforge is a darn good system, so why not use it? -- Damien McKenna - Web Developer - [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Limu Company - http://www.thelimucompany.com/ - 407-804-1014 #include stdjoke.h ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:222050 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Open Source Shopping Cart (was: Shopping Cart)
Not to take this thread in a whole new direction, but is anyone else offended that the cfopen.org http://cfopen.org project is written in PHP? One should never take offense at free, existing code that you can use. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:221970 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Open Source Shopping Cart (was: Shopping Cart)
-Original Message- From: Alan Rother [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 8:00 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Open Source Shopping Cart (was: Shopping Cart) Not to take this thread in a whole new direction, but is anyone else offended that the cfopen.org http://cfopen.org project is written in PHP? Offended? No. We're CF folks, Alan! We've known for years that CF is an option, not a religion. We don't begrudge other tools... especially when they're used to promote CF. ;^) However, that being said, I can see how other, less mature, communities might attempt to use this against CF. But I wouldn't worry about this in the long run - those people are very unlikely to start using CF in the first place. Jim Davis ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:221978 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Open Source Shopping Cart (was: Shopping Cart)
I would also like to be kept apprised of this project and would be interested in helping. On 10/21/05, Jillian Koskie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would be interested in helping as well. -- Jillian -Original Message- From: Russell Patterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 8:15 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Open Source Shopping Cart (was: Shopping Cart) I'd be interested in helping, however, I am not the strongest CF developer. Russell - Original Message - From: Andy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 9:18 PM Subject: RE: Open Source Shopping Cart (was: Shopping Cart) Yes. -Original Message- From: Mike | NZSolutions Ltd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 3:52 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Open Source Shopping Cart (was: Shopping Cart) And if not, would there be interest in initiating a project? -Original Message- From: Russell Patterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 21 October 2005 2:39 a.m. To: CF-Talk Subject: Open Source Shopping Cart (was: Shopping Cart) I think this is a great idea, Does any type of open source shopping cart exists? Russell - Original Message - From: Mike | NZSolutions Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 8:09 PM Subject: RE: Shopping Cart Question... I saw that someone was going to implement a opensource calendar app, another good project would be a open source shopping cart - would it not?? See oscommerce.com http://oscommerce.com for what they are working on - it is really good. mike ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:221983 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Open Source Shopping Cart (was: Shopping Cart)
by the time its done even rick will be running cfmx 47.1 and it will be an included feature of cfm along with image manipulation and insta-site building with mind reading graphic generations and the whole shabang. ~Dave the disruptor~ Some people just don't appreciate how difficult it is to dispense wisdom and abuse at the same time. From: Will Tomlinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 9:53 PM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: Re: Open Source Shopping Cart (was: Shopping Cart) I've actually been workin' on one myself for this very purpose, and for about 3 months it seems. lol! Kinda tough to move fast with it though. Building productmanager.cfc and already have cart.cfc mostly complete. Like cw, the app allows unlimited product options, but mine will allow images for any of those options. So you could have an image for red, black, blue for instance. I also even have an affiliatetracker.cfc on a working site that I'll add in. Will ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:221916 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Open Source Shopping Cart (was: Shopping Cart)
I was hoping those features would be released in the next update for the current version. C'mon MM... what's the hold up? ;) ..:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 2:41 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Open Source Shopping Cart (was: Shopping Cart) by the time its done even rick will be running cfmx 47.1 and it will be an included feature of cfm along with image manipulation and insta-site building with mind reading graphic generations and the whole shabang. ~Dave the disruptor~ Some people just don't appreciate how difficult it is to dispense wisdom and abuse at the same time. From: Will Tomlinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 9:53 PM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: Re: Open Source Shopping Cart (was: Shopping Cart) I've actually been workin' on one myself for this very purpose, and for about 3 months it seems. lol! Kinda tough to move fast with it though. Building productmanager.cfc and already have cart.cfc mostly complete. Like cw, the app allows unlimited product options, but mine will allow images for any of those options. So you could have an image for red, black, blue for instance. I also even have an affiliatetracker.cfc on a working site that I'll add in. Will ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:221919 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Open Source Shopping Cart (was: Shopping Cart)
i know the damn slackers! must be getting ready for the upcoming pummeling of the new flash killer... ~Dave the disruptor~ Some people just don't appreciate how difficult it is to dispense wisdom and abuse at the same time. From: Bobby Hartsfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 3:07 AM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: RE: Open Source Shopping Cart (was: Shopping Cart) I was hoping those features would be released in the next update for the current version. C'mon MM... what's the hold up? ;) ...:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 2:41 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Open Source Shopping Cart (was: Shopping Cart) by the time its done even rick will be running cfmx 47.1 and it will be an included feature of cfm along with image manipulation and insta-site building with mind reading graphic generations and the whole shabang. ~Dave the disruptor~ Some people just don't appreciate how difficult it is to dispense wisdom and abuse at the same time. From: Will Tomlinson Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 9:53 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Open Source Shopping Cart (was: Shopping Cart) I've actually been workin' on one myself for this very purpose, and for about 3 months it seems. lol! Kinda tough to move fast with it though. Building productmanager.cfc and already have cart.cfc mostly complete. Like cw, the app allows unlimited product options, but mine will allow images for any of those options. So you could have an image for red, black, blue for instance. I also even have an affiliatetracker.cfc on a working site that I'll add in. Will ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:221920 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Open Source Shopping Cart (was: Shopping Cart)
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Starting Open Source Shopping Cart
OK, it seems like we have a quorum. How do we get started? What is the next step? ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:221924 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Starting Open Source Shopping Cart
OK, it seems like we have a quorum. How do we get started? What is the next step? Let's pretend we're all clients - list all the features we'd like with our cart and make a decision on which ones we'll go with. Then the next part will probably be, CHANGING what we all agreed to. hahahahahaa! Will ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:221926 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Starting Open Source Shopping Cart
First decision is which site to use to coordinate our efforts. Any advantage to one site versus another? Once we decide this, I'll open a project and we can move the dialog to there. Second step is to agree on some definnitions to help us to move forward. Let me offer a first cut at some definitions: Product: A single item that can be bought or sold Shopping Cart: A set of products and order quantities that may or may not be purchased Address: A phyisical location to which order confirmations, invoices, bills, orders, etc, can be mailed or otherwise delivered to Order: A set of products and requested quantities and shipping and billing information that are to be shipped to a single location Purchase Order: A grouping of one or more orders associated with a single authorization Let the party begin Andy ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:221929 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Starting Open Source Shopping Cart
I might suggest cfdeveloper.co.uk U then have everything in one place. Free webspace, forums, support, CFMX7, MySQl and SQL Server. I would suggest using the forum to dicuss the project as it is cleaner than a list as you can put it all in a single thread (or I could give you a separate topic), where as the list posts will just get lost amongst everything else and people may miss stuff. -- Russ -Original Message- From: Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 October 2005 17:16 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Starting Open Source Shopping Cart First decision is which site to use to coordinate our efforts. Any advantage to one site versus another? Once we decide this, I'll open a project and we can move the dialog to there. Second step is to agree on some definnitions to help us to move forward. Let me offer a first cut at some definitions: Product: A single item that can be bought or sold Shopping Cart: A set of products and order quantities that may or may not be purchased Address: A phyisical location to which order confirmations, invoices, bills, orders, etc, can be mailed or otherwise delivered to Order: A set of products and requested quantities and shipping and billing information that are to be shipped to a single location Purchase Order: A grouping of one or more orders associated with a single authorization Let the party begin Andy ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:221931 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Starting Open Source Shopping Cart
I agree with the forum vs. list. Any other recommendations? -Original Message- From: Snake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 11:45 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Starting Open Source Shopping Cart I might suggest cfdeveloper.co.uk U then have everything in one place. Free webspace, forums, support, CFMX7, MySQl and SQL Server. I would suggest using the forum to dicuss the project as it is cleaner than a list as you can put it all in a single thread (or I could give you a separate topic), where as the list posts will just get lost amongst everything else and people may miss stuff. -- Russ -Original Message- From: Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 October 2005 17:16 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Starting Open Source Shopping Cart First decision is which site to use to coordinate our efforts. Any advantage to one site versus another? Once we decide this, I'll open a project and we can move the dialog to there. Second step is to agree on some definnitions to help us to move forward. Let me offer a first cut at some definitions: Product: A single item that can be bought or sold Shopping Cart: A set of products and order quantities that may or may not be purchased Address: A phyisical location to which order confirmations, invoices, bills, orders, etc, can be mailed or otherwise delivered to Order: A set of products and requested quantities and shipping and billing information that are to be shipped to a single location Purchase Order: A grouping of one or more orders associated with a single authorization Let the party begin Andy ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:221932 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Starting Open Source Shopping Cart
From: Snake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I might suggest cfdeveloper.co.uk U then have everything in one place. I would also find a broader term to encompass what you guys are doing. To me, shopping cart means something to hold item(s) I want to purchase. If you get into products catalogs, shipping, emails, products, categories, carts, etc than I think the term commerce system or something along those lines is more fitting. My $0.02 Mike ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:221933 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Starting Open Source Shopping Cart
How about Order Management? This encompasses at least: 1. Products 2. Catalogs 3. Shopping Cart 4. Customers 5. Orders 6. Shipping 7. Invoicing 8. Billing/Charge Cards -Original Message- From: Michael T. Tangorre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 11:53 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Starting Open Source Shopping Cart From: Snake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I might suggest cfdeveloper.co.uk U then have everything in one place. I would also find a broader term to encompass what you guys are doing. To me, shopping cart means something to hold item(s) I want to purchase. If you get into products catalogs, shipping, emails, products, categories, carts, etc than I think the term commerce system or something along those lines is more fitting. My $0.02 Mike ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:221934 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Starting Open Source Shopping Cart
Sounds pretty good, but might I suggest that all of this start with a well defined requirements document? What is the purpose of the project? What functionality will be included, broken out by module? What other aspects of the project are there to be taken into consideration (Frameworks, methodologies, etc...). What constraints are there for the project scope (must run on shared hosts, use specific mappings, database support, etc...)? Each one of the items below are pretty hefty systems within their own right. Tying them all together in a single cohesive interface would be nightmarish without a good project plan... Sorry... the CMMI level 5 processes where I work are beginning to rub off on me... Cheers, Jeff -Original Message- From: Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 10:04 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Starting Open Source Shopping Cart How about Order Management? This encompasses at least: 1. Products 2. Catalogs 3. Shopping Cart 4. Customers 5. Orders 6. Shipping 7. Invoicing 8. Billing/Charge Cards ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:221935 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Open Source Shopping Cart (was: Shopping Cart)
Ha! Good point ..:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 3:21 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Open Source Shopping Cart (was: Shopping Cart) i know the damn slackers! must be getting ready for the upcoming pummeling of the new flash killer... ~Dave the disruptor~ Some people just don't appreciate how difficult it is to dispense wisdom and abuse at the same time. From: Bobby Hartsfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 3:07 AM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: RE: Open Source Shopping Cart (was: Shopping Cart) I was hoping those features would be released in the next update for the current version. C'mon MM... what's the hold up? ;) :.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 2:41 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Open Source Shopping Cart (was: Shopping Cart) by the time its done even rick will be running cfmx 47.1 and it will be an included feature of cfm along with image manipulation and insta-site building with mind reading graphic generations and the whole shabang. ~Dave the disruptor~ Some people just don't appreciate how difficult it is to dispense wisdom and abuse at the same time. From: Will Tomlinson Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 9:53 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Open Source Shopping Cart (was: Shopping Cart) I've actually been workin' on one myself for this very purpose, and for about 3 months it seems. lol! Kinda tough to move fast with it though. Building productmanager.cfc and already have cart.cfc mostly complete. Like cw, the app allows unlimited product options, but mine will allow images for any of those options. So you could have an image for red, black, blue for instance. I also even have an affiliatetracker.cfc on a working site that I'll add in. Will ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:221936 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Starting Open Source Shopping Cart
From: Jeff Garza [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] CMMI level 5 processes where I work are beginning to rub off on me... WOW, level 5? Pretty impressive... very few people reach that and maintain it! I thought level 3 was a lot...! ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:221937 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Starting Open Source Shopping Cart
Trust me... Level 5 is not somewhere you want to go... unless you like being inundated with processes to manage your processes... ;-) Level 2/3 is about where you really gain from the process but aren't a complete slave to it. Cheers! Jeff -Original Message- From: Michael T. Tangorre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 10:46 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Starting Open Source Shopping Cart From: Jeff Garza [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] CMMI level 5 processes where I work are beginning to rub off on me... WOW, level 5? Pretty impressive... very few people reach that and maintain it! I thought level 3 was a lot...! ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:221938 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Starting Open Source Shopping Cart
Good point. I was thinking about following a UML process. Start with Scenerios, define actors, create Use Cases, create requirements... From an infrastructure side, we will need to decide on standards, frameworks, methodologiesOh CHRIST, this is sounding like real work! However, the first step is decide on a place to hold all of these discussions, or tracks of work. -Original Message- From: Jeff Garza [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 12:40 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Starting Open Source Shopping Cart Sounds pretty good, but might I suggest that all of this start with a well defined requirements document? What is the purpose of the project? What functionality will be included, broken out by module? What other aspects of the project are there to be taken into consideration (Frameworks, methodologies, etc...). What constraints are there for the project scope (must run on shared hosts, use specific mappings, database support, etc...)? Each one of the items below are pretty hefty systems within their own right. Tying them all together in a single cohesive interface would be nightmarish without a good project plan... Sorry... the CMMI level 5 processes where I work are beginning to rub off on me... Cheers, Jeff -Original Message- From: Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 10:04 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Starting Open Source Shopping Cart How about Order Management? This encompasses at least: 1. Products 2. Catalogs 3. Shopping Cart 4. Customers 5. Orders 6. Shipping 7. Invoicing 8. Billing/Charge Cards ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:221942 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Starting Open Source Shopping Cart
LOL... yes, it is. Usually, the UML diagrams come after the requirements gathering... If you can find a place that supports wikis, that might be the best way to get a requirements document in place... Cheers, Jeff -Original Message- From: Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 12:42 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Starting Open Source Shopping Cart Good point. I was thinking about following a UML process. Start with Scenerios, define actors, create Use Cases, create requirements... From an infrastructure side, we will need to decide on standards, frameworks, methodologiesOh CHRIST, this is sounding like real work! However, the first step is decide on a place to hold all of these discussions, or tracks of work. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:221943 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Open Source Shopping Cart (was: Shopping Cart)
I'd be interested in helping, however, I am not the strongest CF developer. Russell - Original Message - From: Andy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 9:18 PM Subject: RE: Open Source Shopping Cart (was: Shopping Cart) Yes. -Original Message- From: Mike | NZSolutions Ltd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 3:52 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Open Source Shopping Cart (was: Shopping Cart) And if not, would there be interest in initiating a project? -Original Message- From: Russell Patterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 21 October 2005 2:39 a.m. To: CF-Talk Subject: Open Source Shopping Cart (was: Shopping Cart) I think this is a great idea, Does any type of open source shopping cart exists? Russell - Original Message - From: Mike | NZSolutions Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 8:09 PM Subject: RE: Shopping Cart Question... I saw that someone was going to implement a opensource calendar app, another good project would be a open source shopping cart - would it not?? See oscommerce.com for what they are working on - it is really good. mike ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:221796 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Open Source Shopping Cart
Hey, that's the best way to get some skills. My first few projects here years ago was helping develop some apps with a MUCH better developer that I. I learned a LOT. Of course, I have since surpassed her and she has been long gone from this company, but hey, I got what I wanted from her. :) Russell Patterson wrote: I'd be interested in helping, however, I am not the strongest CF developer. Russell - Original Message - From: Andy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 9:18 PM Subject: RE: Open Source Shopping Cart (was: Shopping Cart) Yes. -Original Message- From: Mike | NZSolutions Ltd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 3:52 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Open Source Shopping Cart (was: Shopping Cart) And if not, would there be interest in initiating a project? -Original Message- From: Russell Patterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 21 October 2005 2:39 a.m. To: CF-Talk Subject: Open Source Shopping Cart (was: Shopping Cart) I think this is a great idea, Does any type of open source shopping cart exists? Russell - Original Message - From: Mike | NZSolutions Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 8:09 PM Subject: RE: Shopping Cart Question... I saw that someone was going to implement a opensource calendar app, another good project would be a open source shopping cart - would it not?? See oscommerce.com for what they are working on - it is really good. mike ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:221809 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Open Source Shopping Cart (was: Shopping Cart)
I would be interested in helping as well. -- Jillian -Original Message- From: Russell Patterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 8:15 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Open Source Shopping Cart (was: Shopping Cart) I'd be interested in helping, however, I am not the strongest CF developer. Russell - Original Message - From: Andy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 9:18 PM Subject: RE: Open Source Shopping Cart (was: Shopping Cart) Yes. -Original Message- From: Mike | NZSolutions Ltd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 3:52 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Open Source Shopping Cart (was: Shopping Cart) And if not, would there be interest in initiating a project? -Original Message- From: Russell Patterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 21 October 2005 2:39 a.m. To: CF-Talk Subject: Open Source Shopping Cart (was: Shopping Cart) I think this is a great idea, Does any type of open source shopping cart exists? Russell - Original Message - From: Mike | NZSolutions Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 8:09 PM Subject: RE: Shopping Cart Question... I saw that someone was going to implement a opensource calendar app, another good project would be a open source shopping cart - would it not?? See oscommerce.com for what they are working on - it is really good. mike ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:221811 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
