Re: BEA licenses BlueDragon for WebLogic
On Wednesday 19 April 2006 16:26, Russ Michaels wrote: I have seen several benefits. Don't get me wrong, I think it's a Good Thing. I'm not going to be writting anything that uses BD only tags though - look where doing that with IE got us a few years back :-) -- Tom Chiverton Advanced ColdFusion Programmer ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:238252 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: BEA licenses BlueDragon for WebLogic
On Monday 17 April 2006 19:37, Vince Bonfanti wrote: Some people might also find it significant that BEA is now essentially a competitor to Adobe in a portion of the ColdFusion server market (that portion being people who are now or are planning to redeploy existing CFML applications onto WebLogic servers). We already run MX on Weblogic. This is a supported configuration and works great. When we last looked, BD was about the same* price for a J2EE version as MX. It appears that since then BD has improved it's compatability with legacy CFML code since then, however, it's still the same cost with no extra benefit. Don't mind me though, I'm about to change employers :-) -- Tom Chiverton Advanced ColdFusion Programmer ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:238064 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: BEA licenses BlueDragon for WebLogic
-Original Message- We already run MX on Weblogic. This is a supported configuration and works great. You must be luckier than us then - we run MX 6.1 in weblogic and so far, great is most certainly not the word i'd use to describe it. /t ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:238068 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: BEA licenses BlueDragon for WebLogic
On Wednesday 19 April 2006 13:18, RADEMAKERS Tanguy wrote: You must be luckier than us then - we run MX 6.1 in weblogic and so far, great is most certainly not the word i'd use to describe it. *Really* ? What's up ? -- Tom Chiverton Advanced ColdFusion Programmer ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:238070 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: BEA licenses BlueDragon for WebLogic
I have seen several benefits. It has some extra tags and fucntionality, less bugs, and a smaller footprint if using ServetExec, and the support is better. Plus it runs on .NET :-) Russ -Original Message- From: Thomas Chiverton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 10:37:05 +0100 Subject: Re: BEA licenses BlueDragon for WebLogic On Monday 17 April 2006 19:37, Vince Bonfanti wrote: Some people might also find it significant that BEA is now essentially a competitor to Adobe in a portion of the ColdFusion server market (that portion being people who are now or are planning to redeploy existing CFML applications onto WebLogic servers). We already run MX on Weblogic. This is a supported configuration and works great. When we last looked, BD was about the same* price for a J2EE version as MX. It appears that since then BD has improved it's compatability with legacy CFML code since then, however, it's still the same cost with no extra benefit. Don't mind me though, I'm about to change employers :-) -- Tom Chiverton Advanced ColdFusion Programmer ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:238106 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: BEA licenses BlueDragon for WebLogic
We're talking about running on WebLogic, so the points about ServletExec and .NET are irrelevant (though true). Plus, being that's it's a new product, BD for WebLogic, you can't guarantee there are less bugs. Andy On 19/04/06, Russ Michaels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have seen several benefits. It has some extra tags and fucntionality, less bugs, and a smaller footprint if using ServetExec, and the support is better. Plus it runs on .NET :-) Russ -Original Message- From: Thomas Chiverton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 10:37:05 +0100 Subject: Re: BEA licenses BlueDragon for WebLogic On Monday 17 April 2006 19:37, Vince Bonfanti wrote: Some people might also find it significant that BEA is now essentially a competitor to Adobe in a portion of the ColdFusion server market (that portion being people who are now or are planning to redeploy existing CFML applications onto WebLogic servers). We already run MX on Weblogic. This is a supported configuration and works great. When we last looked, BD was about the same* price for a J2EE version as MX. It appears that since then BD has improved it's compatability with legacy CFML code since then, however, it's still the same cost with no extra benefit. Don't mind me though, I'm about to change employers :-) -- Tom Chiverton Advanced ColdFusion Programmer ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:238115 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: BEA licenses BlueDragon for WebLogic
How about we all take it for what its worth; an announcement of a new option for the CF community. I think options are a good thing. Rey... Andy Allan wrote: We're talking about running on WebLogic, so the points about ServletExec and .NET are irrelevant (though true). Plus, being that's it's a new product, BD for WebLogic, you can't guarantee there are less bugs. Andy ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:238119 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: BEA licenses BlueDragon for WebLogic
Just to clarify, I think this is an excellent move by NewAtlanta. In fact, I would have been buying my two BlueDragon buddies beer this weekend to celebrate if it weren't for the fact I'm stuck in work. Like we need a reason to drink beer!! Ha :-) Andy On 19/04/06, Rey Bango [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about we all take it for what its worth; an announcement of a new option for the CF community. I think options are a good thing. Rey... Andy Allan wrote: We're talking about running on WebLogic, so the points about ServletExec and .NET are irrelevant (though true). Plus, being that's it's a new product, BD for WebLogic, you can't guarantee there are less bugs. Andy ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:238133 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: BEA licenses BlueDragon for WebLogic
Like we need a reason to drink beer!! Ha :-) Reasons?!?! We don't need no stinkin' reasons! ;) Rey... ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:238139 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: BEA licenses BlueDragon for WebLogic
Even if there are more bugs(which I wouldn't know), NewAtlanta's tech support has been amazing supporting Weblogic. On a few cases for us, they recreated the bug and had a hotfix for us within a few days. I'm not sure if Adobe would do that for us, that just seemed the case between versions 6.0 and 6.1(which was the last version we used) -Original Message- From: Andy Allan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 11:51 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: BEA licenses BlueDragon for WebLogic We're talking about running on WebLogic, so the points about ServletExec and .NET are irrelevant (though true). Plus, being that's it's a new product, BD for WebLogic, you can't guarantee there are less bugs. Andy On 19/04/06, Russ Michaels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have seen several benefits. It has some extra tags and fucntionality, less bugs, and a smaller footprint if using ServetExec, and the support is better. Plus it runs on .NET :-) Russ -Original Message- From: Thomas Chiverton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 10:37:05 +0100 Subject: Re: BEA licenses BlueDragon for WebLogic On Monday 17 April 2006 19:37, Vince Bonfanti wrote: Some people might also find it significant that BEA is now essentially a competitor to Adobe in a portion of the ColdFusion server market (that portion being people who are now or are planning to redeploy existing CFML applications onto WebLogic servers). We already run MX on Weblogic. This is a supported configuration and works great. When we last looked, BD was about the same* price for a J2EE version as MX. It appears that since then BD has improved it's compatability with legacy CFML code since then, however, it's still the same cost with no extra benefit. Don't mind me though, I'm about to change employers :-) -- Tom Chiverton Advanced ColdFusion Programmer ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:238142 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: BEA licenses BlueDragon for WebLogic
what does this have to do with coldfusion? just wondering? On 4/17/06, Vince Bonfanti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BEA has announced that they've licensed BlueDragon to resell with their WebLogic J2EE server. The rebranded, BlueDragon, BEA WebLogic Edition is being sold and supported by BEA as a BEA product. Links to press releases and additional details are on my blog: http://blog.newatlanta.com/index.cfm Vince Bonfanti New Atlanta Communications, LLC http://www.newatlanta.com ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237932 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: BEA licenses BlueDragon for WebLogic
Good question--I guess I should have put more detail in my original message. From the BEA press release: BlueDragon is designed to help enable customers to modernize and extend legacy ColdFusion Markup Language (CFML) applications to run on BEA WebLogic Server, which can thereby allow companies to reuse existing technology to help meet evolving business needs. If you're looking to run CFML applications on BEA WebLogic, you can now buy a solution directly from BEA. Some people might also find it significant that BEA is now essentially a competitor to Adobe in a portion of the ColdFusion server market (that portion being people who are now or are planning to redeploy existing CFML applications onto WebLogic servers). Vince -Original Message- From: Rastafari [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 17, 2006 2:29 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: BEA licenses BlueDragon for WebLogic what does this have to do with coldfusion? just wondering? On 4/17/06, Vince Bonfanti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BEA has announced that they've licensed BlueDragon to resell with their WebLogic J2EE server. The rebranded, BlueDragon, BEA WebLogic Edition is being sold and supported by BEA as a BEA product. Links to press releases and additional details are on my blog: http://blog.newatlanta.com/index.cfm Vince Bonfanti New Atlanta Communications, LLC http://www.newatlanta.com ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237933 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: BEA licenses BlueDragon for WebLogic
I didnt realize that cf-talk was open for advertising. Excellent... ras On 4/17/06, Vince Bonfanti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good question--I guess I should have put more detail in my original message. From the BEA press release: BlueDragon is designed to help enable customers to modernize and extend legacy ColdFusion Markup Language (CFML) applications to run on BEA WebLogic Server, which can thereby allow companies to reuse existing technology to help meet evolving business needs. If you're looking to run CFML applications on BEA WebLogic, you can now buy a solution directly from BEA. Some people might also find it significant that BEA is now essentially a competitor to Adobe in a portion of the ColdFusion server market (that portion being people who are now or are planning to redeploy existing CFML applications onto WebLogic servers). Vince -Original Message- From: Rastafari [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 17, 2006 2:29 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: BEA licenses BlueDragon for WebLogic what does this have to do with coldfusion? just wondering? On 4/17/06, Vince Bonfanti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BEA has announced that they've licensed BlueDragon to resell with their WebLogic J2EE server. The rebranded, BlueDragon, BEA WebLogic Edition is being sold and supported by BEA as a BEA product. Links to press releases and additional details are on my blog: http://blog.newatlanta.com/index.cfm Vince Bonfanti New Atlanta Communications, LLC http://www.newatlanta.com ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237935 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: BEA licenses BlueDragon for WebLogic
I didnt realize that cf-talk was open for advertising. I don't mind a discreet, brief post from the market's bigger players notifying me of *significant* developments. If its a problem I'm sure the forum moderator will deal with it. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237943 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: BEA licenses BlueDragon for WebLogic
ColdfusionMX = CFML application server BlueDragon = CFML application server So in answer to your question, it has everything to do with the coldfusion markup language, which presumably you use if your on this list, but nothing to do with ColdFusion server. Russ -Original Message- From: Rastafari [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 14:29:20 -0400 Subject: Re: BEA licenses BlueDragon for WebLogic what does this have to do with coldfusion? just wondering? On 4/17/06, Vince Bonfanti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BEA has announced that they've licensed BlueDragon to resell with their WebLogic J2EE server. The rebranded, BlueDragon, BEA WebLogic Edition is being sold and supported by BEA as a BEA product. Links to press releases and additional details are on my blog: http://blog.newatlanta.com/index.cfm Vince Bonfanti New Atlanta Communications, LLC http://www.newatlanta.com ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237944 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: BEA licenses BlueDragon for WebLogic
Its not advertising Ras. Its an announcment of a major partnership between New Atlanta and BEA. No different than the ton of announcements I've seen on CF-Talk over the last 6 years. Rey... ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237946 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: BEA licenses BlueDragon for WebLogic
-Original Message- From: Vince Bonfanti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 17, 2006 1:30 PM BEA has announced that they've licensed BlueDragon to resell with their WebLogic J2EE server. May I be the five hundreth to congratulate the team on this! Very well done! -- Damien McKenna - Web Developer - [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Limu Company - http://www.thelimucompany.com/ - 407-804-1014 #include stdjoke.h ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237947 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: BEA licenses BlueDragon for WebLogic
Some of us actually *like* knowing what's going on in the CFML community. I don't think Vince's notice was meant as advertising, but more of Here's something significant that's happening in the CFML community. There's a great saying: Knowledge is Power, and some of us like knowing. -JM Rastafari wrote: I didnt realize that cf-talk was open for advertising. Excellent... ras On 4/17/06, Vince Bonfanti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good question--I guess I should have put more detail in my original message. From the BEA press release: BlueDragon is designed to help enable customers to modernize and extend legacy ColdFusion Markup Language (CFML) applications to run on BEA WebLogic Server, which can thereby allow companies to reuse existing technology to help meet evolving business needs. If you're looking to run CFML applications on BEA WebLogic, you can now buy a solution directly from BEA. Some people might also find it significant that BEA is now essentially a competitor to Adobe in a portion of the ColdFusion server market (that portion being people who are now or are planning to redeploy existing CFML applications onto WebLogic servers). Vince -Original Message- From: Rastafari [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 17, 2006 2:29 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: BEA licenses BlueDragon for WebLogic what does this have to do with coldfusion? just wondering? On 4/17/06, Vince Bonfanti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BEA has announced that they've licensed BlueDragon to resell with their WebLogic J2EE server. The rebranded, BlueDragon, BEA WebLogic Edition is being sold and supported by BEA as a BEA product. Links to press releases and additional details are on my blog: http://blog.newatlanta.com/index.cfm Vince Bonfanti New Atlanta Communications, LLC http://www.newatlanta.com ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237948 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: BEA licenses BlueDragon for WebLogic
I think Rastafari has a hair across his butt today. I wouldn't worry about him, he's a punk. :) Ray Jordan Michaels wrote: Some of us actually *like* knowing what's going on in the CFML community. I don't think Vince's notice was meant as advertising, but more of Here's something significant that's happening in the CFML community. There's a great saying: Knowledge is Power, and some of us like knowing. -JM Rastafari wrote: I didnt realize that cf-talk was open for advertising. Excellent... ras On 4/17/06, Vince Bonfanti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good question--I guess I should have put more detail in my original message. From the BEA press release: BlueDragon is designed to help enable customers to modernize and extend legacy ColdFusion Markup Language (CFML) applications to run on BEA WebLogic Server, which can thereby allow companies to reuse existing technology to help meet evolving business needs. If you're looking to run CFML applications on BEA WebLogic, you can now buy a solution directly from BEA. Some people might also find it significant that BEA is now essentially a competitor to Adobe in a portion of the ColdFusion server market (that portion being people who are now or are planning to redeploy existing CFML applications onto WebLogic servers). Vince -Original Message- From: Rastafari [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 17, 2006 2:29 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: BEA licenses BlueDragon for WebLogic what does this have to do with coldfusion? just wondering? On 4/17/06, Vince Bonfanti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BEA has announced that they've licensed BlueDragon to resell with their WebLogic J2EE server. The rebranded, BlueDragon, BEA WebLogic Edition is being sold and supported by BEA as a BEA product. Links to press releases and additional details are on my blog: http://blog.newatlanta.com/index.cfm Vince Bonfanti New Atlanta Communications, LLC http://www.newatlanta.com ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237949 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: BEA licenses BlueDragon for WebLogic
Rastafari wrote: what does this have to do with coldfusion? I was wondering what it had to do with Nick Tong's post Re: Can't Get Network Datasources working in CF 5... Vince set up the PR as a reply to a message in another thread, instead of using that New Message button in his emailer. To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 13:29:37 -0400 References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jd -- John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237952 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
