Re: How many CF developers does it take to manage a site ???
> You were thinking of "How many CF developers does it take to screw in > a light bulb?". > > "Just one. The light bulb costs more than open source alternatives, > but is easier to turn on and off and leverages the power of the same > underlying Java filament." > > ~Brad LOL! ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 & MX7 integration & create powerful cross-platform RIAs http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJQ Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:281085 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: How many CF developers does it take to manage a site ???
On 6/12/07, Neil (RX) wrote:... > So, yes we manage 300 but in all reality we may not touch any of them > since > launch: And there's the money. I keep meaning to do something like that... get those reoccurring payments going on... for doing nothing more than backups and whatnot. Let's see... like what, $20 x month, x 300... Hmm... $35 would... Bah. Much of what I do uses the same code base, but I'm always adding and improving it, and I'm a yes man. Can I do X? Sure! Gotta prune that response back a bit... =-P Not that it's the same, being a contractor vs. a vested um, code-n-stuff-dude. Vested. Heh. ~| ColdFusion MX7 by Adobe® Dyncamically transform webcontent into Adobe PDF with new ColdFusion MX7. Free Trial. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJV Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280888 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: How many CF developers does it take to manage a site ???
Yeah, same with us, although we have over 300 independent sites they currenty all share the same code base etc so we manage one code base and 300 "sites" within our web farm. So, yes we manage 300 but in all reality we may not touch any of them since launch: "This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions." Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Brad Wood To: CF-Talk Sent: Mon Jun 11 15:54:32 2007 Subject: RE: How many CF developers does it take to manage a site ??? So many variables... Our company is at least 2000 employees, we have 5 CF developers and 6 SQL developers, but only 2 sites. Of course they are pretty complex and very database driven, support over 50 child-companies, and require constant new development for new features and functionality. If we were simply maintaining a set code-base, it would only take a few of us though. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 9:00 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: How many CF developers does it take to manage a site ??? I was just curious ... about how many live corporate Web sites does the average CF developer manage? I'm not talking side jobs, or pet projects. I'm talking you work for XYZ company with more than 100 employyes and manage x number of Web sites all by yourself. The reason why I ask is I'm managing 6 and throughout most of my career I've only had to manage 1. ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade & integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJP Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280736 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: How many CF developers does it take to manage a site ???
The question "how many sites does a CF developer manage" is hard to answer because it's kind of random and meaningless. It doesn't take into consideration anything like complexity, traffic, users, etc. I mean, I "manage" something like 8 web sites at work. But really only 2-3 of them require any kind of interaction on my part on an ongoing basis. We're working on documenting all of the applications in our main web site (www.it.dev.dukeedu) and there's a lot.. not just the ones you see in the navigation but quite a few others as well. Rick ~| Deploy Web Applications Quickly across the enterprise with ColdFusion MX7 & Flex 2 Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280722 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: How many CF developers does it take to manage a site ???
Yeah, like: Ten: one to write the code, one to make sure it's not Java, one to make sure it's better than PHP, one to scan the press for adverse comments, and six to argue about which framework to use. Sorry - best I could do. Jaime Metcher > -Original Message- > From: JJ Cool [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, 12 June 2007 1:47 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: How many CF developers does it take to manage a site ??? > > > By the title of this thread I thought this was going to be a joke. :( > > disappointed, > CoolJJ > > ~| ColdFusion 8 beta â Build next generation applications today. Free beta download on Labs http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=labs_adobecf8_beta Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280719 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: How many CF developers does it take to manage a site ???
On 6/11/07, Brad Wood wrote: > You were thinking of "How many CF developers does it take to screw in a light > bulb?". Just one, but don't ask me how it got in there. Or, 3 hundred, but don't ask me why. =-P (the short made me laugh. Good job whoever!) Yes, much better. Good point CoolJJ! Oh, wait, you probably meant /good/ jokes... (Yer'z was ok, B-dubbs :) ~| Create Web Applications With ColdFusion MX7 & Flex 2. Build powerful, scalable RIAs. Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJS Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280710 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: How many CF developers does it take to manage a site ???
1 Heck, I manage a bunch. Too much, actually. Just got a couple of contractors turned comrades in arms tho. It was trial by fire. No one died, so we're good to go. Still bringing them up to speed on the frameworks, but it's been nice having people who understand what I do around... people to tell coding jokes too, etc.. * * * Klingon function calls do not have "parameters"-- they have "arguments"-- AND THEY ALWAYS WIN THEM. ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade & integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJP Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280702 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: How many CF developers does it take to manage a site ???
You were thinking of "How many CF developers does it take to screw in a light bulb?". "Just one. The light bulb costs more than open source alternatives, but is easier to turn on and off and leverages the power of the same underlying Java filament." ~Brad -Original Message- From: JJ Cool [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 10:47 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: How many CF developers does it take to manage a site ??? By the title of this thread I thought this was going to be a joke. :( disappointed, CoolJJ ~| Create Web Applications With ColdFusion MX7 & Flex 2. Build powerful, scalable RIAs. Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJS Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280677 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: How many CF developers does it take to manage a site ???
So many variables... Our company is at least 2000 employees, we have 5 CF developers and 6 SQL developers, but only 2 sites. Of course they are pretty complex and very database driven, support over 50 child-companies, and require constant new development for new features and functionality. If we were simply maintaining a set code-base, it would only take a few of us though. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 9:00 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: How many CF developers does it take to manage a site ??? I was just curious ... about how many live corporate Web sites does the average CF developer manage? I'm not talking side jobs, or pet projects. I'm talking you work for XYZ company with more than 100 employyes and manage x number of Web sites all by yourself. The reason why I ask is I'm managing 6 and throughout most of my career I've only had to manage 1. ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade & integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJP Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280668 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: How many CF developers does it take to manage a site ???
By the title of this thread I thought this was going to be a joke. :( disappointed, CoolJJ ~| CF 8 â Scorpio beta now available, easily build great internet experiences â Try it now on Labs http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=labs_adobecf8_beta Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280661 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: How many CF developers does it take to manage a site ???
By manage sites I mean, manage all cf code on both developement and production servers. Manage all aspects of expansion/creation of existing and new CF applications. Manage all aspects of database. Creation of Flash movies, which include Actionscript and video editing using Premiere Pro. Working with product managers, and manage a part-time Jr. developer. I love what I do, I was just curious what everyone else was doing. >We manage over 350+ but that is probably not the norm! > > > > > > > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: 11 June 2007 15:00 >To: CF-Talk >Subject: How many CF developers does it take to manage a site ??? > >I was just curious ... about how many live corporate Web sites does the >average >CF developer manage? I'm not talking side jobs, or pet projects. I'm >talking you >work for XYZ company with more than 100 employyes and manage x number of >Web sites all by yourself. The reason why I ask is I'm managing 6 and >throughout >most of my career I've only had to manage 1. ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade & integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJP Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280658 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: How many CF developers does it take to manage a site ???
On 6/11/07, Tom Chiverton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Monday 11 Jun 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > average CF developer manage? > > Define 'manage'. > Does that mean 'have needed development work in the last 12 months' or 'are > running on the live server' ? > Also define "site"...are you talking about separate CF installs? Different apps under the same URL? Different URL's on the same web server? Does "manage" mean development or administration or both? I think you'll find that for a group of developers who all manage n "sites", n != n != n... ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 & MX7 integration & create powerful cross-platform RIAs http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJQ Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280644 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: How many CF developers does it take to manage a site ???
It really depends on the sites. I've managed as many as 50 CF sites and also do new development at the same time. Some of them are stable and hardly ever get touched. Others are constantly changing and require a lot of work. It's not really the number of sites that's the issue, it's the total number hours all site together require. If you have three hundred sites that work with little problem and are stable, possibly get one update per year, then you might be able to manage all 300. If you have one site where the client add new procedures each week, then that site alone may be a full time job. Robert B. Harrison Director of Interactive services Austin & Williams 125 Kennedy Drive, Suite 100 Hauppauge NY 11788 T : 631.231.6600 Ext. 119 F : 631.434.7022 www.austin-williams.com Great advertising can't be either/or... It must be &. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 10:00 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: How many CF developers does it take to manage a site ??? I was just curious ... about how many live corporate Web sites does the average CF developer manage? I'm not talking side jobs, or pet projects. I'm talking you work for XYZ company with more than 100 employyes and manage x number of Web sites all by yourself. The reason why I ask is I'm managing 6 and throughout most of my career I've only had to manage 1. ~| ColdFusion 8 beta â Build next generation applications today. Free beta download on Labs http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=labs_adobecf8_beta Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280643 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: How many CF developers does it take to manage a site ???
On Monday 11 Jun 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > average CF developer manage? Define 'manage'. Does that mean 'have needed development work in the last 12 months' or 'are running on the live server' ? -- Tom Chiverton Helping to heterogeneously benchmark synergistic technologies on: http://thefalken.livejournal.com This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Deploy Web Applications Quickly across the enterprise with ColdFusion MX7 & Flex 2 Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280641 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: How many CF developers does it take to manage a site ???
I'm doing 6, with two more in development. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 10:00 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: How many CF developers does it take to manage a site ??? I was just curious ... about how many live corporate Web sites does the average CF developer manage? I'm not talking side jobs, or pet projects. I'm talking you work for XYZ company with more than 100 employyes and manage x number of Web sites all by yourself. The reason why I ask is I'm managing 6 and throughout most of my career I've only had to manage 1. ~| ColdFusion MX7 and Flex 2 Build sales & marketing dashboard RIAâs for your business. Upgrade now http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2?sdid=RVJT Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280640 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: How many CF developers does it take to manage a site ???
We manage over 350+ but that is probably not the norm! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 June 2007 15:00 To: CF-Talk Subject: How many CF developers does it take to manage a site ??? I was just curious ... about how many live corporate Web sites does the average CF developer manage? I'm not talking side jobs, or pet projects. I'm talking you work for XYZ company with more than 100 employyes and manage x number of Web sites all by yourself. The reason why I ask is I'm managing 6 and throughout most of my career I've only had to manage 1. ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade & integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJP Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280638 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
