RE: Installing HomeSite/CF Studio 5.0 when 4.5.2 is on PC
I agree. It simply can't be beat when it comes to speed and usability! +---+ Bryan Love Macromedia Certified Professional Internet Application Developer Database Analyst Telecommunication Systems [EMAIL PROTECTED] +---+ "...'If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace'..." - Thomas Paine, The American Crisis -Original Message- From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 12:37 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Installing HomeSite/CF Studio 5.0 when 4.5.2 is on PC John, CF Studio is like going from a hand saw to a chain saw. It's the best tool for hand coding I've ever used. Mark -Original Message- From: John B. White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 10:19 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Installing HomeSite/CF Studio 5.0 when 4.5.2 is on PC Okay...slightly off topic, but this sounds like I should seriously consider purchasing CF Studio? Right now I hand code everything (since I'm trying to learn). What advantages are there to using Studio? Currently I use: 1st Page 2000 by EvrSoft - Which has some CF tags and the ability to add more...and is free! Arachnophilia - Also free and a nice little interface for Tidy HTML Netscape Composer - Yes it writes crappy code but for initial page layout, its quick and simple. And its free! This is not a production environment. I'm teaching myself CF so I can give my informatics students a taste of dynamic page generation and the use of a web app for patient information etc. Suggestions on making this easier are welcome, probably off list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). BTW, I've learned alot from watching this list and viewing the of posts. :) --JW "Earl, George" wrote: > > Mark, > > You are right that HomeSite is a scaled down version of CF Studio, although > I like to think of it as CF Studio is a pumped up version of HomeSite . . __ Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Installing HomeSite/CF Studio 5.0 when 4.5.2 is on PC
John, CF Studio is like going from a hand saw to a chain saw. It's the best tool for hand coding I've ever used. Mark -Original Message- From: John B. White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 10:19 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Installing HomeSite/CF Studio 5.0 when 4.5.2 is on PC Okay...slightly off topic, but this sounds like I should seriously consider purchasing CF Studio? Right now I hand code everything (since I'm trying to learn). What advantages are there to using Studio? Currently I use: 1st Page 2000 by EvrSoft - Which has some CF tags and the ability to add more...and is free! Arachnophilia - Also free and a nice little interface for Tidy HTML Netscape Composer - Yes it writes crappy code but for initial page layout, its quick and simple. And its free! This is not a production environment. I'm teaching myself CF so I can give my informatics students a taste of dynamic page generation and the use of a web app for patient information etc. Suggestions on making this easier are welcome, probably off list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). BTW, I've learned alot from watching this list and viewing the of posts. :) --JW "Earl, George" wrote: > > Mark, > > You are right that HomeSite is a scaled down version of CF Studio, although > I like to think of it as CF Studio is a pumped up version of HomeSite . . . __ Why Share? Dedicated Win 2000 Server · PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionc FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Installing HomeSite/CF Studio 5.0 when 4.5.2 is on PC
Okay...slightly off topic, but this sounds like I should seriously consider purchasing CF Studio? Right now I hand code everything (since I'm trying to learn). What advantages are there to using Studio? Currently I use: 1st Page 2000 by EvrSoft - Which has some CF tags and the ability to add more...and is free! Arachnophilia - Also free and a nice little interface for Tidy HTML Netscape Composer - Yes it writes crappy code but for initial page layout, its quick and simple. And its free! This is not a production environment. I'm teaching myself CF so I can give my informatics students a taste of dynamic page generation and the use of a web app for patient information etc. Suggestions on making this easier are welcome, probably off list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). BTW, I've learned alot from watching this list and viewing the of posts. :) --JW "Earl, George" wrote: > > Mark, > > You are right that HomeSite is a scaled down version of CF Studio, although > I like to think of it as CF Studio is a pumped up version of HomeSite . . . __ Get Your Own Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionb FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Installing HomeSite/CF Studio 5.0 when 4.5.2 is on PC
Mark, You are right that HomeSite is a scaled down version of CF Studio, although I like to think of it as CF Studio is a pumped up version of HomeSite . . . I install HomeSite even though I have Studio because I am the point person for the copies we distribute to our developers. I need to see what they see when they have questions about HomeSite. George [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ... snipped ... > In any case, I'd be interested > to know what Homesite gives you that CF studio does not? > __ Why Share? Dedicated Win 2000 Server · PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionc FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Installing HomeSite/CF Studio 5.0 when 4.5.2 is on PC
At 10:54 AM 02/07/2002 -0500, you wrote: >1. I want HomeSite 5 to detect and bring in the settings I have with >HomeSite 4.5.2 and then I want to uninstall 4.5.2 but if I do that I then >have to reinstall 5 but my 4.5.2 will be gone, along with all it's settings, >so I won't be able to migrate over my settings again? Does this mean that to >migrate my settings I have to leave 4.5.2 on my PC after I install 5? >Forever? Same thing with CF Studio 4.5.2 and 5.0? Well, you can check out the UserData folder in your installation directory. For CF Studio, I believe it contains all your user settings. Back it up and you should be able to restore your settings just by replacing the directory and re-loading home-site. Although, I can't say for certain, I'd also look for some sort of HomeSite.Ini file >2. I don't want to install JRun Studio 3.0.1 (or JRun 3.0.1, I'm confused >about which one they mean, studio or the app server or both?). At least not >now. But I might want to later. If I do it later then I will have to >reinstall both HomeSite 5 and CF Studio 5 and I'll lose my settings again? I'd guess they mean JRun studio, although I can't say for certain. >3. Does the shared files paragraph really mean that if I ever uninstall >HomeSite 5.0/CF Studio 5.0 and I want to reinstall them I first have to >reinstall versions 4.5.2 or make sure they are still on my PC? Are versions >4.5.2/5.0 of HomeSite/Studio forever joined at the hip if I want to retain >my settings? I bet they mean that HomeSite / Studio 4.5.2 uses old versions of a specific DLL. HomeSite/ CF Studio 5 uses newer versions. 5 won't work on the older versions, but 4.5.2 will work on the newer versions. If you re-install 4.5.2 then you over-write the new versions. Of course, this is all speculation. -- Jeffry Houser | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: Reboog711 | ICQ: 5246969 | Fax / Phone: 860-223-7946 -- Need a Web Developer? Contact me! My Book: Instant ColdFusion 5 | http://www.instantcoldfusion.com My New Book: ColdFusion: A Beginner's Guide February 2002 -- Far Cry Fly, Alternative Folk Rock http://www.farcryfly.com | http://www.mp3.com/FarCryFly __ Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Installing HomeSite/CF Studio 5.0 when 4.5.2 is on PC
George, I had to laugh at your email - I love installation instructions . What do the rest of us do? Pop in the CD and click Next next ... next ... next then we wonder what went wrong. In any case, I'd be interested to know what Homesite gives you that CF studio does not? I was under the impression that Homesite was merely a scaled down version of CF Studio (oriented to HTML only and not CF). Am I wrong? Mark -Original Message- From: Earl, George [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 7:54 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Installing HomeSite/CF Studio 5.0 when 4.5.2 is on PC Sorry for the length of this message. I'm frustrated. I finally have time to upgrade my HomeSite from 4.5.2 to 5.0 and I'll follow that with CF Studio 5.0 and UltraDev 4.0 (don't ask) and right at the top of the release notes I find: If you uninstall HomeSite 4.5.2 after having installed HomeSite 5, you must reinstall HomeSite 5. and: JRun Studio 3.0.1 may be installed on the same computer as ColdFusion Studio 5 and/or HomeSite 5. The preferred sequence of installation is to install JRun 3.0.1 and then ColdFusion Studio 5 and/or HomeSite 5. But, if you do install JRun Studio 3.0.1 after installing ColdFusion Studio 5 and/or HomeSite 5, you must reinstall ColdFusion Studio 5 and/or HomeSite 5. and: If you uninstall HomeSite or ColdFusion Studio when you have more than one version installed on the same computer, do not select to delete the shared files during the uninstallation. For example, when HomeSite 4.5.2 and HomeSite 5 are installed on the same computer and you uninstall HomeSite 5, dialogs will appear during the uninstallation asking to delete shared files. In those dialogs, you must select No (the default is Yes). If you do inadvertently delete the files, you will need to reinstall. It is important that earlier versions of HomeSite or ColdFusion Studio are installed before later versions. So, you would reinstall HomeSite or ColdFusion Studio 4.5.2 first and then HomeSite or ColdFusion Studio 5. [29480] So, 1. I want HomeSite 5 to detect and bring in the settings I have with HomeSite 4.5.2 and then I want to uninstall 4.5.2 but if I do that I then have to reinstall 5 but my 4.5.2 will be gone, along with all it's settings, so I won't be able to migrate over my settings again? Does this mean that to migrate my settings I have to leave 4.5.2 on my PC after I install 5? Forever? Same thing with CF Studio 4.5.2 and 5.0? 2. I don't want to install JRun Studio 3.0.1 (or JRun 3.0.1, I'm confused about which one they mean, studio or the app server or both?). At least not now. But I might want to later. If I do it later then I will have to reinstall both HomeSite 5 and CF Studio 5 and I'll lose my settings again? 3. Does the shared files paragraph really mean that if I ever uninstall HomeSite 5.0/CF Studio 5.0 and I want to reinstall them I first have to reinstall versions 4.5.2 or make sure they are still on my PC? Are versions 4.5.2/5.0 of HomeSite/Studio forever joined at the hip if I want to retain my settings? I'm starting to think it makes sense just to uninstall the older versions and manually reconfigure the new versions with my old settings. What has everyone else done? Thanks. George __ Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
