Re: JRun Throwing 503 Errors

2009-03-20 Thread Matt Quackenbush

In a nutshell, cfhttp calls hanging, stacking on top of each other, and
eating up the JVM.


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Re: JRun Throwing 503 Errors

2009-03-20 Thread Matt Quackenbush

I forgot to answer the last part of your question.  The solution: I moved
all of the cfhttp calls to their own server instance.


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RE: JRun Throwing 503 Errors

2009-03-20 Thread Robert Rawlins

Yeah thought that would be the case.

So, are they just slow running or was the end server not responding and
causing them to stack? Did changing the concurrent requests setting the
Admin help at all? Or just prolong the problem?

I'd probably recommend using the timeout on cfhttp be set to solve this
issue, at the moment it just sits indefinitely.

Value, in seconds, that is the maximum time the request can take. If the
time-out passes without a response, ColdFusion considers the request to have
failed.

If the client specifies a time-out in the URL search parameter (for example,
?RequestTime=120) ColdFusion uses the lesser of the URL time-out and the
timeout attribute value; this ensures that the request times out before, or
at the same time as, the page.

If the URL does not specify a time-out, ColdFusion uses the lesser of the
Administrator time-out and the timeout attribute value.

If the time-out is not set in any of these, ColdFusion waits indefinitely
for the cfhttp request to process.

That won't solve the problem if they're just slow to return a large set of
data however it'll solve the problem if you've got requests that are not
responding.

Rob

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From: Matt Quackenbush [mailto:quackfu...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 20 March 2009 06:09
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Subject: Re: JRun Throwing 503 Errors


In a nutshell, cfhttp calls hanging, stacking on top of each other, and
eating up the JVM.




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Re: JRun Throwing 503 Errors

2009-03-19 Thread Keith Soares

Suddenly our CF server is doing the same thing - off the charts with 503 errors 
from JRun - did you happen to ever figure out any sort of culprit or solution?

Thanks
K.

No, I do not have monitoring turned on in production.  As a matter of fact,
until you just mentioned it, I completely forgot it even existed.  ;-)
(Which means that I don't know the answer to your questions, but I shall
check it out.)


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Re: JRun Throwing 503 Errors

2009-03-18 Thread Matt Quackenbush

Hmm... It just happened again.  Now here's the strange part: All of my
sites return 503 timeout errors, yet I can still move about the CFAdmin just
like normal.  WTF?  I have no idea what the deal is.


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RE: JRun Throwing 503 Errors

2009-03-18 Thread Robert Rawlins

Matt,

Hope you're well mate. With regards to this it looks as if requests are
timing out whilst sat in the request pool before being processed.

My guess would be that this might be related to those scheduled tasks, if
they're running and consuming all available requests due to the slow running
speed and creating a bottleneck then you'll be quing other requests for too
long and causing them to time out.

Try bumping the number if simultaneous requests up and see if that solves
the problem, if it does then I'd look at making those scheduled tasks more
efficient.

Rob

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From: Matt Quackenbush [mailto:quackfu...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 18 March 2009 10:31
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Subject: JRun Throwing 503 Errors


Hello,

On one of my servers, starting about 12 hours ago, all of a sudden JRun
seems to be shutting down or something.  It quits responding and displays
the following error message on every request:

503

Request timed out waiting to execute


For the last 12 hours this has occurred repeatedly, with a max interval of 3
hours.  Nothing in the CF logs gives me any indication of what the cause
is.  Where can I check to try and pinpoint the cause?

The server specs:

CPU: 2x Dual-Core Xeon
RAM: 4GB ECC Registered
OS:   Windows Server 2003
CF:CF8 Enterprise, JRun configuration
Web:  IIS
DB:None

The only thing that I can think of is the fact that there are a lot of
long-running scheduled tasks that rely on cfhttp calls.  Could it be
possible that cfhttp is timing out and causing JRun to shut down?  That
really doesn't seem to make a lot of sense to me, but I can think of no
other reason.  Nothing else is affected, only JRun.

Any thoughts, tips, or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.


Thanks,

Matt




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Re: JRun Throwing 503 Errors

2009-03-18 Thread Tom Chiverton

On Wednesday 18 Mar 2009, Matt Quackenbush wrote:
 For the last 12 hours this has occurred repeatedly, with a max interval of
 3 hours.  Nothing in the CF logs gives me any indication of what the cause
 is.  Where can I check to try and pinpoint the cause?

What do the graphs on the CF monitor look like ? 
Are there many blocked requests, rising average execution time or memory 
usage ?
Do you accidentally have either of the last two monitor options (profiling, 
memory tracking iirc) on in production ?

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Re: JRun Throwing 503 Errors

2009-03-18 Thread Matt Quackenbush

No, I do not have monitoring turned on in production.  As a matter of fact,
until you just mentioned it, I completely forgot it even existed.  ;-)
(Which means that I don't know the answer to your questions, but I shall
check it out.)


On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 5:43 AM, Tom Chiverton wrote:


 What do the graphs on the CF monitor look like ?
 Are there many blocked requests, rising average execution time or memory
 usage ?
 Do you accidentally have either of the last two monitor options (profiling,
 memory tracking iirc) on in production ?



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