RE: Licensing a CF app
Touche ! When/if I can find the time to allocate some more resources to it I will do a trial run and see how much is broken - perhaps Christmas day when no customers are chasing for stuff :( Last time I tried BD there was a lot and a few CF features I used just weren't in it - perhaps were a bit further down the line and these features are now in there - fingers crossed. Cheers Phil Martin -Original Message- From: Phil Cruz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 December 2004 17:08 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Licensing a CF app I think your assumption to re-spend the same amount of money is a false one. I recommend you at least take the time to fire off an email to their sales to discuss your options (to manage upfront costs). I think you may be pleasantly surprised. As for BS, promises are well just promises. Until the final product is released we won't know what actually makes the cut and how it compares with expectations and/or competing offerings. Bottom line, the decision to use BD is not a simple one and can't be measured by any one metric, i.e costs of BD vs cost of CFMX. You have to account for time/resources to do conversion but you also have to factor in things like expanded market potential and how does that weigh in. In your case for example, it appears you're selling a CMS appliance. Since that must include a CFMX license and hardware that can't be cheap. How would your sales be affected if you could just sell the software thereby cutting the price of CFMX and hardware *and* also target both .NET customers as well as J2EE? Would that be worth the cost of conversion? As far as compatibility/conversion, I did a Mach-II app and it pretty much just worked with BD. My latest app I've been struggling with incompatibilities with BDs list functions and queries of queries as compared to BD. I've probably taken about a 5 day detour due to this. I made the decision to spend the time to convert because I think it will be better in the long run. -Phil Thanks Vince - There's still one or two niggles - when you've paid so much for CF and you then need to re-spend the same amount of money again (OK, maybe not quite as much as MM charge) on what is essentially the same tool (generalising a bit I know) I find that difficult to do. I know we have the benefits of deployment etc. which is promised in Blackstone anyway. But there must be a compelling reason to go through the whole change process when the promised solution is on the way anyway. If there's stuff I'm totally missing out on please tell me. Too much work on at the moment means I can't see the wood for the trees. Cheers Martin. -Original Message- From: Vince Bonfanti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 30 November 2004 14:22 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Licensing a CF app I'm not sure that re-writing a tonne of code is what would be required. We've converted a number of fairly large applications (thousands of pages) to BlueDragon; the time doing so is usually measured in hours or days. Often it's only one or two tweaks that have to be made to get everything running. Most BlueDragon customers approach this no differently than they would an upgrade from CF5 to CFMX, for example. That is, they don't expect their CF5 code to run perfectly out of the box on CFMX, and therefore don't expect the same from BlueDragon. Of course, just as for the CF5-to-CFMX upgrade, there has to be enough benefit to the BlueDragon upgrade to make it worth your effort. The first step (after reviewing the BlueDragon CFML Compatibility Guide) is to run the BlueDragon precompiler on your code base--this will flush out most of the incompatibilities. After that, it's a simple matter of running through your application to verify that everything works. We're happy to provide assistance if you're interested in making a go of it. Vince Bonfanti New Atlanta Communications, LLC http://www.newatlanta.com ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Gold Sponsor - CFHosting.net http://www.cfhosting.net Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:186243 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Licensing a CF app
Touche ! When/if I can find the time to allocate some more resources to it I will do a trial run and see how much is broken - perhaps Christmas day when no customers are chasing for stuff :( Last time I tried BD there was a lot and a few CF features I used just weren't in it - perhaps were a bit further down the line and these features are now in there - fingers crossed. Cheers Phil Martin -Original Message- From: Phil Cruz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 December 2004 17:08 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Licensing a CF app I think your assumption to re-spend the same amount of money is a false one. I recommend you at least take the time to fire off an email to their sales to discuss your options (to manage upfront costs). I think you may be pleasantly surprised. . ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Gold Sponsor - CFHosting.net http://www.cfhosting.net Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:186244 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Licensing a CF app
I think your assumption to re-spend the same amount of money is a false one. I recommend you at least take the time to fire off an email to their sales to discuss your options (to manage upfront costs). I think you may be pleasantly surprised. As for BS, promises are well just promises. Until the final product is released we won't know what actually makes the cut and how it compares with expectations and/or competing offerings. Bottom line, the decision to use BD is not a simple one and can't be measured by any one metric, i.e costs of BD vs cost of CFMX. You have to account for time/resources to do conversion but you also have to factor in things like expanded market potential and how does that weigh in. In your case for example, it appears you're selling a CMS appliance. Since that must include a CFMX license and hardware that can't be cheap. How would your sales be affected if you could just sell the software thereby cutting the price of CFMX and hardware *and* also target both .NET customers as well as J2EE? Would that be worth the cost of conversion? As far as compatibility/conversion, I did a Mach-II app and it pretty much just worked with BD. My latest app I've been struggling with incompatibilities with BDs list functions and queries of queries as compared to BD. I've probably taken about a 5 day detour due to this. I made the decision to spend the time to convert because I think it will be better in the long run. -Phil Thanks Vince - There's still one or two niggles - when you've paid so much for CF and you then need to re-spend the same amount of money again (OK, maybe not quite as much as MM charge) on what is essentially the same tool (generalising a bit I know) I find that difficult to do. I know we have the benefits of deployment etc. which is promised in Blackstone anyway. But there must be a compelling reason to go through the whole change process when the promised solution is on the way anyway. If there's stuff I'm totally missing out on please tell me. Too much work on at the moment means I can't see the wood for the trees. Cheers Martin. -Original Message- From: Vince Bonfanti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 30 November 2004 14:22 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Licensing a CF app I'm not sure that re-writing a tonne of code is what would be required. We've converted a number of fairly large applications (thousands of pages) to BlueDragon; the time doing so is usually measured in hours or days. Often it's only one or two tweaks that have to be made to get everything running. Most BlueDragon customers approach this no differently than they would an upgrade from CF5 to CFMX, for example. That is, they don't expect their CF5 code to run perfectly out of the box on CFMX, and therefore don't expect the same from BlueDragon. Of course, just as for the CF5-to-CFMX upgrade, there has to be enough benefit to the BlueDragon upgrade to make it worth your effort. The first step (after reviewing the BlueDragon CFML Compatibility Guide) is to run the BlueDragon precompiler on your code base--this will flush out most of the incompatibilities. After that, it's a simple matter of running through your application to verify that everything works. We're happy to provide assistance if you're interested in making a go of it. Vince Bonfanti New Atlanta Communications, LLC http://www.newatlanta.com ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Gold Sponsor - CFHosting.net http://www.cfhosting.net Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:186219 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Licensing a CF app
Thanks Vince - There's still one or two niggles - when you've paid so much for CF and you then need to re-spend the same amount of money again (OK, maybe not quite as much as MM charge) on what is essentially the same tool (generalising a bit I know) I find that difficult to do. I know we have the benefits of deployment etc. which is promised in Blackstone anyway. But there must be a compelling reason to go through the whole change process when the promised solution is on the way anyway. If there's stuff I'm totally missing out on please tell me. Too much work on at the moment means I can't see the wood for the trees. Cheers Martin. -Original Message- From: Vince Bonfanti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 30 November 2004 14:22 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Licensing a CF app I'm not sure that re-writing a tonne of code is what would be required. We've converted a number of fairly large applications (thousands of pages) to BlueDragon; the time doing so is usually measured in hours or days. Often it's only one or two tweaks that have to be made to get everything running. Most BlueDragon customers approach this no differently than they would an upgrade from CF5 to CFMX, for example. That is, they don't expect their CF5 code to run perfectly out of the box on CFMX, and therefore don't expect the same from BlueDragon. Of course, just as for the CF5-to-CFMX upgrade, there has to be enough benefit to the BlueDragon upgrade to make it worth your effort. The first step (after reviewing the BlueDragon CFML Compatibility Guide) is to run the BlueDragon precompiler on your code base--this will flush out most of the incompatibilities. After that, it's a simple matter of running through your application to verify that everything works. We're happy to provide assistance if you're interested in making a go of it. Vince Bonfanti New Atlanta Communications, LLC http://www.newatlanta.com -Original Message- From: Martin Parry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 1:55 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Licensing a CF app I've pained over this and finally decided that the only feasible way to do it was to provide a CMS appliance to the customers who wanted to host their own websites/intranets using my CMS. This is essentially a locked down server that only I have access to (for updates etc.). I also spent quite a while trying to re-use the .class files that CF generates. Proved a tad too tricky so I ditched that idea. Blue Dragon - When I was looking at it, yes it was very good and offered this type of functionality but I have a LOT of code in the CMS and Blue Dragon didn't work out of the box. As I'm genetically lazy I couldn't stomach re-writing a tonne of code - so stuck in my comfort zone ;) Just my 2¢ worth Martin Parry Macromedia Certified Developer http://www.BeetrootStreet.co.uk -Original Message- From: Tom McNeer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 November 2004 21:35 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Licensing a CF app Thanks to everyone who replied. I had forgotten about BlueDragon's ISV program. And I guess it's unknown whether the Blackstone functionality referred to would actually allow the sort of disabling we'd like. From comments I've seen here before, Coral gets mixed reviews. ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Silver Sponsor - CFDynamics http://www.cfdynamics.com Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:186207 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Licensing a CF app
I'm not sure that re-writing a tonne of code is what would be required. We've converted a number of fairly large applications (thousands of pages) to BlueDragon; the time doing so is usually measured in hours or days. Often it's only one or two tweaks that have to be made to get everything running. Most BlueDragon customers approach this no differently than they would an upgrade from CF5 to CFMX, for example. That is, they don't expect their CF5 code to run perfectly out of the box on CFMX, and therefore don't expect the same from BlueDragon. Of course, just as for the CF5-to-CFMX upgrade, there has to be enough benefit to the BlueDragon upgrade to make it worth your effort. The first step (after reviewing the BlueDragon CFML Compatibility Guide) is to run the BlueDragon precompiler on your code base--this will flush out most of the incompatibilities. After that, it's a simple matter of running through your application to verify that everything works. We're happy to provide assistance if you're interested in making a go of it. Vince Bonfanti New Atlanta Communications, LLC http://www.newatlanta.com -Original Message- From: Martin Parry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 1:55 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Licensing a CF app I've pained over this and finally decided that the only feasible way to do it was to provide a CMS appliance to the customers who wanted to host their own websites/intranets using my CMS. This is essentially a locked down server that only I have access to (for updates etc.). I also spent quite a while trying to re-use the .class files that CF generates. Proved a tad too tricky so I ditched that idea. Blue Dragon - When I was looking at it, yes it was very good and offered this type of functionality but I have a LOT of code in the CMS and Blue Dragon didn't work out of the box. As I'm genetically lazy I couldn't stomach re-writing a tonne of code - so stuck in my comfort zone ;) Just my 2¢ worth Martin Parry Macromedia Certified Developer http://www.BeetrootStreet.co.uk -Original Message- From: Tom McNeer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 November 2004 21:35 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Licensing a CF app Thanks to everyone who replied. I had forgotten about BlueDragon's ISV program. And I guess it's unknown whether the Blackstone functionality referred to would actually allow the sort of disabling we'd like. From comments I've seen here before, Coral gets mixed reviews. ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Silver Sponsor - CFDynamics http://www.cfdynamics.com Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:185656 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Licensing a CF app
Check out New Atlanta's blue dragon, I believe you can do it with this currently. I think the new version of Coldfusion will let you create compiled versions of an application that you can licence Regards Mark Drew On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 13:05:49 -0500, Tom McNeer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I have a client whose application we have developed over the past three years. It operates as a web-based services for his customers, taking data entry and displaying calculated analysis of the data. He now has a customer who, for security reasons, wishes to have a private installation of the application running on the customer's own network. My client has asked me if there is any way we can secure his application, meaning Can we make it like a compiled desktop app that can't work without a license key, and can be timed out after a year -- both so it cannot be copied and so, if the customer does not pay his yearly licensing fee, the application could be disabled. Since this a ColdFusion app, I know that there is no way to truly secure it in the manner he wishes. But I wondered if anyone on the list had any similar experiences, or any thoughts on securing it to some extent. -- Thanks, Tom Tom McNeer MediumCool A Marketing, Creative and Construction Company for the World Wide Web 530 Means St NW, Suite 110 Atlanta, GA 30318 404-589-0560 FAX 404-589-0510 http://www.mediumcool.com ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Gold Sponsor - CFHosting.net http://www.cfhosting.net Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:185551 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Licensing a CF app
I was looking for the link: http://www.newatlanta.com/products/bluedragon/isv.cfm On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 19:24:29 +0100, Mark Drew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Check out New Atlanta's blue dragon, I believe you can do it with this currently. I think the new version of Coldfusion will let you create compiled versions of an application that you can licence Regards Mark Drew On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 13:05:49 -0500, Tom McNeer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I have a client whose application we have developed over the past three years. It operates as a web-based services for his customers, taking data entry and displaying calculated analysis of the data. He now has a customer who, for security reasons, wishes to have a private installation of the application running on the customer's own network. My client has asked me if there is any way we can secure his application, meaning Can we make it like a compiled desktop app that can't work without a license key, and can be timed out after a year -- both so it cannot be copied and so, if the customer does not pay his yearly licensing fee, the application could be disabled. Since this a ColdFusion app, I know that there is no way to truly secure it in the manner he wishes. But I wondered if anyone on the list had any similar experiences, or any thoughts on securing it to some extent. -- Thanks, Tom Tom McNeer MediumCool A Marketing, Creative and Construction Company for the World Wide Web 530 Means St NW, Suite 110 Atlanta, GA 30318 404-589-0560 FAX 404-589-0510 http://www.mediumcool.com ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Gold Sponsor - CFHosting.net http://www.cfhosting.net Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:185552 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Licensing a CF app
A suggestion: depends how open that client's network is, but you could include a couple of well-placed CFC calls to your own server that validate the license information you also incorporate into the code. If they remove the CFC calls, the app can bomb out - ie make the CFC do some action/return some result that is useful. You could also deploy a CFX tag (hence compiled) that processes the result, allowing you to hide any decryption / processing logic from prying eyes. Aaron - Original Message - From: Tom McNeer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 5:05 AM Subject: Licensing a CF app Hi, I have a client whose application we have developed over the past three years. It operates as a web-based services for his customers, taking data entry and displaying calculated analysis of the data. He now has a customer who, for security reasons, wishes to have a private installation of the application running on the customer's own network. My client has asked me if there is any way we can secure his application, meaning Can we make it like a compiled desktop app that can't work without a license key, and can be timed out after a year -- both so it cannot be copied and so, if the customer does not pay his yearly licensing fee, the application could be disabled. Since this a ColdFusion app, I know that there is no way to truly secure it in the manner he wishes. But I wondered if anyone on the list had any similar experiences, or any thoughts on securing it to some extent. ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Gold Sponsor - CFHosting.net http://www.cfhosting.net Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:185563 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Licensing a CF app
You might check out: http://www.pcaonline.com/coral/index.cfm I don't know anything about the application, I just have the bookmark. Doug James IT Developer Hollings Cancer Center http://hcc.musc.edu Tom McNeer wrote: Hi, I have a client whose application we have developed over the past three years. It operates as a web-based services for his customers, taking data entry and displaying calculated analysis of the data. He now has a customer who, for security reasons, wishes to have a private installation of the application running on the customer's own network. My client has asked me if there is any way we can secure his application, meaning Can we make it like a compiled desktop app that can't work without a license key, and can be timed out after a year -- both so it cannot be copied and so, if the customer does not pay his yearly licensing fee, the application could be disabled. Since this a ColdFusion app, I know that there is no way to truly secure it in the manner he wishes. But I wondered if anyone on the list had any similar experiences, or any thoughts on securing it to some extent. ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Gold Sponsor - CFHosting.net http://www.cfhosting.net Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:185564 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Licensing a CF app
you can always make one of their graphics in a flash then have it call a page on yours or their server to check and see if its valid if not forward it to a disabled page. To check it can be a text file or have it do a query. On my sites i have it call a query on my site to check, so i just keep the sites up to date in 1 place -- Original Message -- From: Doug James [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 14:04:50 -0500 You might check out: http://www.pcaonline.com/coral/index.cfm I don't know anything about the application, I just have the bookmark. Doug James IT Developer Hollings Cancer Center http://hcc.musc.edu Tom McNeer wrote: Hi, I have a client whose application we have developed over the past three years. It operates as a web-based services for his customers, taking data entry and displaying calculated analysis of the data. He now has a customer who, for security reasons, wishes to have a private installation of the application running on the customer's own network. My client has asked me if there is any way we can secure his application, meaning Can we make it like a compiled desktop app that can't work without a license key, and can be timed out after a year -- both so it cannot be copied and so, if the customer does not pay his yearly licensing fee, the application could be disabled. Since this a ColdFusion app, I know that there is no way to truly secure it in the manner he wishes. But I wondered if anyone on the list had any similar experiences, or any thoughts on securing it to some extent. ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Gold Sponsor - CFHosting.net http://www.cfhosting.net Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:185568 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Licensing a CF app
Hi, I have a client whose application we have developed over the past three years. It operates as a web-based services for his customers, taking data entry and displaying calculated analysis of the data. He now has a customer who, for security reasons, wishes to have a private installation of the application running on the customer's own network. My client has asked me if there is any way we can secure his application, meaning Can we make it like a compiled desktop app that can't work without a license key, and can be timed out after a year -- both so it cannot be copied and so, if the customer does not pay his yearly licensing fee, the application could be disabled. Since this a ColdFusion app, I know that there is no way to truly secure it in the manner he wishes. But I wondered if anyone on the list had any similar experiences, or any thoughts on securing it to some extent. -- Thanks, Tom Yes, you can do this in a truly secure manner just as your customer wishes. The Tracking Tools demo(www.tracking-tools.com) is an example of an app packaged to run as a desktop app. It uses BlueDragon. Dick Applebaum and I are working on an article that describes how to do this in detail. I'll post back when it's available (later in December). -Phil ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Gold Sponsor - CFHosting.net http://www.cfhosting.net Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:185573 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Licensing a CF app
Thanks to everyone who replied. I had forgotten about BlueDragon's ISV program. And I guess it's unknown whether the Blackstone functionality referred to would actually allow the sort of disabling we'd like. From comments I've seen here before, Coral gets mixed reviews. As far these ideas go: depends how open that client's network is, but you could include a couple of well-placed CFC calls to your own server you can always make one of their graphics in a flash then have it call a page on yours or their server to check and see if its valid Open is not a valid description of their network. It's a US govt. agency that's somewhat circumspect about all its activities. As to your comment, Phil: Yes, you can do this in a truly secure manner just as your customer wishes. The Tracking Tools demo(www.tracking-tools.com) is an example of an app packaged to run as a desktop app. It uses BlueDragon. Dick Applebaum and I are working on an article that describes how to do this in detail. I'll post back when it's available (later in December). Hooray. Thanks from me (and I'm sure from others who are interested in doing the same thing. I enjoyed participating in the Tracking Tools beta test, and I look forward to reading what you and Dick put together. -- Thanks, Tom Tom McNeer MediumCool A Marketing, Creative and Construction Company for the World Wide Web 530 Means St NW, Suite 110 Atlanta, GA 30318 404-589-0560 FAX 404-589-0510 http://www.mediumcool.com ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Gold Sponsor - CFHosting.net http://www.cfhosting.net Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:185598 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Licensing a CF app
I've pained over this and finally decided that the only feasible way to do it was to provide a CMS appliance to the customers who wanted to host their own websites/intranets using my CMS. This is essentially a locked down server that only I have access to (for updates etc.). I also spent quite a while trying to re-use the .class files that CF generates. Proved a tad too tricky so I ditched that idea. Blue Dragon - When I was looking at it, yes it was very good and offered this type of functionality but I have a LOT of code in the CMS and Blue Dragon didn't work out of the box. As I'm genetically lazy I couldn't stomach re-writing a tonne of code - so stuck in my comfort zone ;) Just my 2¢ worth Martin Parry Macromedia Certified Developer http://www.BeetrootStreet.co.uk -Original Message- From: Tom McNeer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 November 2004 21:35 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Licensing a CF app Thanks to everyone who replied. I had forgotten about BlueDragon's ISV program. And I guess it's unknown whether the Blackstone functionality referred to would actually allow the sort of disabling we'd like. From comments I've seen here before, Coral gets mixed reviews. ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Gold Sponsor - CFHosting.net http://www.cfhosting.net Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:185631 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
