Re: MediaPlayer
Rick I have been playing with QuickTime and I think I can get it to do everything I (or you) want. Currently I an using the browser plugin a popup window. I also have been able to use the QT Player desktop app. You can select a song (or movie) from a browser page. You can play it inline, in a popup or in another frame. You can do this in such a way that the songs/movies cannot be easily copied or saved. You can select another song and it will kill the current song and start the new one. Or you can build a playlist of up to 256 songs -- give QT the playlist and it runs on its own. Or you can use _javascript_ to manipulate the player/plugin and songs/movies within the active playlist. I don't understand all I know about this yet but there is a lot of neet things you can do -- For example a movie can have commands embedded within the movie.These communicate with the plugin/player which, in turn, communicates with the _javascript_ in your web page vice versa. To take this even further, the movie, can be wired and have hotspots -- so the user can click on the move and cause all sorts of things to happen. I don't how much of this applies to mp3, yet. But it appears that QT is a little media server that you can easily control from a web page with _javascript_ or Flash. I'll try to have something to demo later today. Right now I have a semi-hard coded 2 song then repeat playlist and it gets a little tedious. Dick The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from. - Andrew S. Tanenbaum - On Jul 20, 2004, at 7:51 AM, cfhelp wrote: Thanks everyone for the input I will be checking into it all especially the WM9 Codec I think the ultimate idea would be to detect the users default player or at least ask them if they want QuickTime, winamp or Media Player. In the case of the KCJukeBox.com I can store that info in the database under their profiles as well. I am getting a pretty positive response on this so I got a lot of work to do. Its open source so if anyone wants to play with it go grab it and send back your changes/improvements. Rick Eidson Partner CTO ArcRiver Technology, LLC ASP, PHP, PERL, Cold Fusion Hosting Kansas City http://www.arcriver.com/ http://www.arcriver.com/ Kansas City Musicians http://www.kcjukebox.com/ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: MediaPlayer
Rick Sure! I'll email you off list, Dick On Jul 19, 2004, at 8:20 PM, cfhelp wrote: My JukeBox is here. http://www.kcjukebox.com/ http://www.kcjukebox.com/ http://www.kcjukebox.com/ http://www.kcjukebox.com/ The CF_Nuke is here http://www.mycfnuke.com/ http://www.mycfnuke.com/ http://www.mycfnuke.com/ http://www.mycfnuke.com/ It does sound like we have the same problem. I would like to combine yours with mine to support MAC. You can download the JukeBox from my site and from the MyCFNuke Site. Rick Eidson Partner CTO ArcRiver Technology, LLC ASP, PHP, PERL, Cold Fusion Hosting Kansas City http://www.arcriver.com/ http://www.arcriver.com/ Kansas City Musicians http://www.kcjukebox.com/ http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=36 [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: MediaPlayer
Rick Apple has just started shipping their Airport Extreme / AirTunes system.I got mine last Thursday. http://www.apple.com/airportexpress/airtunes.html It is a little Airport (wireless) router that can connect to a stereo as well as to a LAN the internet, So, from any computer in the house, you can play (wireless) your iTunes tracks on your stereo. Rumored that the next version iPOD dock will have this capability. I don't (yet) know how to implement this, but it is something to consider for any web Jukebox application. Dick On Jul 19, 2004, at 8:20 PM, cfhelp wrote: My JukeBox is here. http://www.kcjukebox.com/ http://www.kcjukebox.com/ http://www.kcjukebox.com/ http://www.kcjukebox.com/ The CF_Nuke is here http://www.mycfnuke.com/ http://www.mycfnuke.com/ http://www.mycfnuke.com/ http://www.mycfnuke.com/ It does sound like we have the same problem. I would like to combine yours with mine to support MAC. You can download the JukeBox from my site and from the MyCFNuke Site. Rick Eidson Partner CTO ArcRiver Technology, LLC ASP, PHP, PERL, Cold Fusion Hosting Kansas City http://www.arcriver.com/ http://www.arcriver.com/ Kansas City Musicians http://www.kcjukebox.com/ http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=36 [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: MediaPlayer
Rick, I would look into using WM9 as opposed to WM7 (fairly wide distribution, so it shouldn't be much of a stretch.) MS has full documentation for control in the SDK, and an active forum on their developer's site, which may give you the information you need. If I had a little more time I would try to research this for you, but I can tell you from experience that the WM9 codec is much better than the WM7 codec, with better compression and less loss. Cutter cfhelp wrote: I have built a simple JukeBox for the CF_Nuke Portal that embeds MediaPlayer and plays files from directories on your site. Here is the script that embeds the Mediaplayer does anyone know how I can reload the page when a song ends? var WMP7; if ( navigator.appName != Netscape ){ WMP7 = new ActiveXObject('WMPlayer.OCX'); } if ( WMP7 ) { document.write ('OBJECT ID=MediaPlayer '); document.write (' CLASSID=""> document.write (' standby=Loading Microsoft Windows Media Player components...'); document.write (' TYPE=application/x-oleobject width=140 height=40'); document.write ('PARAM NAME=url VALUE=cfoutput#URL_Path#/cfoutput'); document.write ('PARAM NAME=AutoStart VALUE=true'); document.write ('PARAM NAME=ShowControls VALUE=1'); document.write ('PARAM NAME=uiMode VALUE=mini'); document.write ('/OBJECT'); } else { //IE Code document.write ('OBJECT ID=MediaPlayer '); document.write ('CLASSID="" '); document.write ('CODEBASE=""> .cab#Version=6,4,5,715 '); document.write ('standby=Loading Microsoft Windows Media Player components... '); document.write ('TYPE=application/x-oleobject width=140 height=40'); document.write ('PARAM NAME=FileName VALUE=cfoutput#URL_Path#/cfoutput'); document.write ('PARAM NAME=AutoStart VALUE=true'); document.write ('PARAM NAME=ShowControls VALUE=1'); //Netscape code document.write (' Embed type=application/x-mplayer2'); document.write (' pluginspage=http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/'); document.write ('filename=cfoutput#URL_Path#/cfoutput'); document.write ('src=""> document.write ('Name=MediaPlayer'); document.write ('ShowControls=1'); document.write ('ShowDisplay=0'); document.write ('ShowStatusBar=1'); document.write ('width=290'); document.write ('height=40'); document.write (' /embed'); document.write ('/OBJECT'); } Rick Eidson Partner CTO ArcRiver Technology, LLC ASP, PHP, PERL, Cold Fusion Hosting Kansas City http://www.arcriver.com/ http://www.arcriver.com/ Kansas City Musicians http://www.kcjukebox.com/ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: MediaPlayer
Rick It would also be worth supporting Quicktime.Apple has a new codec that supports higher quality video at lower data rates.Steve demoed it by doing a video chat with 3 concurrent participants displayed on the screen. http://www.apple.com/macosx/tiger/h264.html Dick On Jul 20, 2004, at 3:50 AM, Cutter (CF-Talk) wrote: Rick, I would look into using WM9 as opposed to WM7 (fairly wide distribution, so it shouldn't be much of a stretch.) MS has full documentation for control in the SDK, and an active forum on their developer's site, which may give you the information you need. If I had a little more time I would try to research this for you, but I can tell you from experience that the WM9 codec is much better than the WM7 codec, with better compression and less loss. Cutter [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: MediaPlayer
Dick, I know you're a big Mac guy, but some of us dislike Quicktime. I don't know how many times I've installed it and try to tell it not to change my filetype associations, but it does anyway somehow. I hate having it installed on my PC. Sometimes I have to install it to watch something important, but I always uninstall it. WMP is much more civilized. Greg -Original Message- From: Dick Applebaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 10:04 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: MediaPlayer Rick It would also be worth supporting Quicktime.Apple has a new codec that supports higher quality video at lower data rates.Steve demoed it by doing a video chat with 3 concurrent participants displayed on the screen. http://www.apple.com/macosx/tiger/h264.html Dick On Jul 20, 2004, at 3:50 AM, Cutter (CF-Talk) wrote: Rick, I would look into using WM9 as opposed to WM7 (fairly wide distribution, so it shouldn't be much of a stretch.) MS has full documentation for control in the SDK, and an active forum on their developer's site, which may give you the information you need. If I had a little more time I would try to research this for you, but I can tell you from experience that the WM9 codec is much better than the WM7 codec, with better compression and less loss. Cutter [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: MediaPlayer
Thanks everyone for the input I will be checking into it all especially the WM9 Codec I think the ultimate idea would be to detect the users default player or at least ask them if they want QuickTime, winamp or Media Player. In the case of the KCJukeBox.com I can store that info in the database under their profiles as well. I am getting a pretty positive response on this so I got a lot of work to do. Its open source so if anyone wants to play with it go grab it and send back your changes/improvements. Rick Eidson Partner CTO ArcRiver Technology, LLC ASP, PHP, PERL, Cold Fusion Hosting Kansas City http://www.arcriver.com/ http://www.arcriver.com/ Kansas City Musicians http://www.kcjukebox.com/ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: MediaPlayer
On Jul 19, 2004, at 3:07 PM, cfhelp wrote: I have built a simple JukeBox for the CF_Nuke Portal that embeds MediaPlayer and plays files from directories on your site. What is the CF_Nuke portal? I written a simple CFprogram that: 1) Parses my iTunes Library.xml file 2) creates a structure of playlists and tracks (songs) 3) servers that to a browser. 4) The User selects a playlist and then selects a track 5) a window pops up and the song plays in via the quicktime plugin. The quicktime plugin provides all the controls. That said, it works differently in different browsers -- and I have a problem that sounds similar to yours. When a song finishes, I must close the popup before another can open andanother song can play. I haven't spent much time on it lately, but plan to resolve this with _javascript_ or a Java applet. BTW, It plays movies too, Maybe we can help each other. Dick Here is the script that embeds the Mediaplayer does anyone know how I can reload the page when a song ends? var WMP7; if ( navigator.appName != Netscape ){ WMP7 = new ActiveXObject('WMPlayer.OCX'); } if ( WMP7 ) { document.write ('OBJECT ID=MediaPlayer '); document.write (' CLASSID=""> document.write (' standby=Loading Microsoft Windows Media Player components...'); document.write (' TYPE=application/x-oleobject width=140 height=40'); document.write ('PARAM NAME=url VALUE=cfoutput#URL_Path#/cfoutput'); document.write ('PARAM NAME=AutoStart VALUE=true'); document.write ('PARAM NAME=ShowControls VALUE=1'); document.write ('PARAM NAME=uiMode VALUE=mini'); document.write ('/OBJECT'); } else { //IE Code document.write ('OBJECT ID=MediaPlayer '); document.write ('CLASSID="" '); document.write ('CODEBASE="" nsmp2inf .cab#Version=6,4,5,715 '); document.write ('standby=Loading Microsoft Windows Media Player components... '); document.write ('TYPE=application/x-oleobject width=140 height=40'); document.write ('PARAM NAME=FileName VALUE=cfoutput#URL_Path#/cfoutput'); document.write ('PARAM NAME=AutoStart VALUE=true'); document.write ('PARAM NAME=ShowControls VALUE=1'); //Netscape code document.write (' Embed type=application/x-mplayer2'); document.write (' pluginspage=http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/'); document.write ('filename=cfoutput#URL_Path#/cfoutput'); document.write ('src=""> document.write ('Name=MediaPlayer'); document.write ('ShowControls=1'); document.write ('ShowDisplay=0'); document.write ('ShowStatusBar=1'); document.write ('width=290'); document.write ('height=40'); document.write (' /embed'); document.write ('/OBJECT'); } Rick Eidson Partner CTO ArcRiver Technology, LLC ASP, PHP, PERL, Cold Fusion Hosting Kansas City http://www.arcriver.com/ http://www.arcriver.com/ Kansas City Musicians http://www.kcjukebox.com/ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: MediaPlayer
My JukeBox is here. http://www.kcjukebox.com/ http://www.kcjukebox.com/ The CF_Nuke is here http://www.mycfnuke.com/ http://www.mycfnuke.com/ It does sound like we have the same problem. I would like to combine yours with mine to support MAC. You can download the JukeBox from my site and from the MyCFNuke Site. Rick Eidson Partner CTO ArcRiver Technology, LLC ASP, PHP, PERL, Cold Fusion Hosting Kansas City http://www.arcriver.com/ http://www.arcriver.com/ Kansas City Musicians http://www.kcjukebox.com/ -Original Message- From: Dick Applebaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 5:59 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: MediaPlayer On Jul 19, 2004, at 3:07 PM, cfhelp wrote: I have built a simple JukeBox for the CF_Nuke Portal that embeds MediaPlayer and plays files from directories on your site. What is the CF_Nuke portal? I written a simple CFprogram that: 1) Parses my iTunes Library.xml file 2) creates a structure of playlists and tracks (songs) 3) servers that to a browser. 4) The User selects a playlist and then selects a track 5) a window pops up and the song plays in via the quicktime plugin. The quicktime plugin provides all the controls. That said, it works differently in different browsers -- and I have a problem that sounds similar to yours. When a song finishes, I must close the popup before another can open andanother song can play. I haven't spent much time on it lately, but plan to resolve this with _javascript_ or a Java applet. BTW, It plays movies too, Maybe we can help each other. Dick Here is the script that embeds the Mediaplayer does anyone know how I can reload the page when a song ends? var WMP7; if ( navigator.appName != Netscape ){ WMP7 = new ActiveXObject('WMPlayer.OCX'); } if ( WMP7 ) { document.write ('OBJECT ID=MediaPlayer '); document.write (' CLASSID=""> document.write (' standby=Loading Microsoft Windows Media Player components...'); document.write (' TYPE=application/x-oleobject width=140 height=40'); document.write ('PARAM NAME=url VALUE=cfoutput#URL_Path#/cfoutput'); document.write ('PARAM NAME=AutoStart VALUE=true'); document.write ('PARAM NAME=ShowControls VALUE=1'); document.write ('PARAM NAME=uiMode VALUE=mini'); document.write ('/OBJECT'); } else { //IE Code document.write ('OBJECT ID=MediaPlayer '); document.write ('CLASSID="" '); document.write ('CODEBASE="" nsmp2inf .cab#Version=6,4,5,715 '); document.write ('standby=Loading Microsoft Windows Media Player components... '); document.write ('TYPE=application/x-oleobject width=140 height=40'); document.write ('PARAM NAME=FileName VALUE=cfoutput#URL_Path#/cfoutput'); document.write ('PARAM NAME=AutoStart VALUE=true'); document.write ('PARAM NAME=ShowControls VALUE=1'); //Netscape code document.write (' Embed type=application/x-mplayer2'); document.write (' pluginspage=http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/'); document.write ('filename=cfoutput#URL_Path#/cfoutput'); document.write ('src=""> document.write ('Name=MediaPlayer'); document.write ('ShowControls=1'); document.write ('ShowDisplay=0'); document.write ('ShowStatusBar=1'); document.write ('width=290'); document.write ('height=40'); document.write (' /embed'); document.write ('/OBJECT'); } Rick Eidson Partner CTO ArcRiver Technology, LLC ASP, PHP, PERL, Cold Fusion Hosting Kansas City http://www.arcriver.com/ http://www.arcriver.com/ Kansas City Musicians http://www.kcjukebox.com/ _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: MediaPlayer
My JukeBox is here. http://www.kcjukebox.com/ http://www.kcjukebox.com/ http://www.kcjukebox.com/ http://www.kcjukebox.com/ The CF_Nuke is here http://www.mycfnuke.com/ http://www.mycfnuke.com/ http://www.mycfnuke.com/ http://www.mycfnuke.com/ It does sound like we have the same problem. I would like to combine yours with mine to support MAC. You can download the JukeBox from my site and from the MyCFNuke Site. Rick Eidson Partner CTO ArcRiver Technology, LLC ASP, PHP, PERL, Cold Fusion Hosting Kansas City http://www.arcriver.com/ http://www.arcriver.com/ Kansas City Musicians http://www.kcjukebox.com/ http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=36 [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]