RE: Naming Convention choice

2002-07-05 Thread Neil Clark - =TMM=

Both are good links :-p the link I posted is MM approved AFAIK : Ray
Camden had a hand in it.











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> Great resource.  Thx for posting.
> 
> I can't seem to find the CF Style guide linked from HOF's home page.
It
> goes to an old FusionAuthority weekly, but for some reason I can't
find
> the link from there.  What am I missing?
> 
> --Matt Robertson--
> MSB Designs, Inc.
> http://mysecretbase.com
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Neil Clark - =TMM= [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 10:33 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Naming Convention choice
> 
> 
> Here is a very interesting doc by Sean Corfield :
> 
> http://www.corfield.org/coldfusion/codingStandards.htm
> 
> it is a pretty good insight of coding standards with the Macromedia
> family and indeed is probably a good step toward a "standard" for us
> MM'ers
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Neil Clark
> Team Macromedia
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> 
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> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Erika L. Walker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: 05 July 2002 18:00
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Naming Convention choice
> 
> I second this ... Just like we all hate people who type in caps all
the
> time, reading code that's all uppercased make me feel like I have a
> hangover! The only thing we uppercase is our TABLE NAMES and FIELD
> NAMES, so they stick out when we're doing forms, which is almost all
we
> ever do.  Though sometimes the SQL gets difficult to read, it's
> easier on the outputting side.
> 
> It all really comes down to who prefers pink and who prefers blue
> though.
> 
> I like brown. ;)
> 
> Erika
> 
> 
> >>| From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >>| 
> >>|   I would recommend lowercasing CF tags.  This will make it
> >>| consistent with 
> >>| XHTML.
> >>|   For more information, look here 
> >>| <http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/#diffs>
> >>|   I also (personally) think that all lowercase words are 
> >>| easier to read than words in all uppercase.
> >>| 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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Re: Naming Convention choice

2002-07-05 Thread Michael Dinowitz

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- Original Message - 
From: "Matt Robertson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 1:50 PM
Subject: RE: Naming Convention choice


> Great resource.  Thx for posting.
> 
> I can't seem to find the CF Style guide linked from HOF's home page.  It
> goes to an old FusionAuthority weekly, but for some reason I can't find
> the link from there.  What am I missing?
> 
> --Matt Robertson--
> MSB Designs, Inc.
> http://mysecretbase.com
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Neil Clark - =TMM= [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 10:33 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Naming Convention choice
> 
> 
> Here is a very interesting doc by Sean Corfield :
> 
> http://www.corfield.org/coldfusion/codingStandards.htm
> 
> it is a pretty good insight of coding standards with the Macromedia
> family and indeed is probably a good step toward a "standard" for us
> MM'ers
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Neil Clark
> Team Macromedia
> http://www.macromedia.com/go/team
> 
> Announcing Macromedia MX!! 
> http://www.macromedia.com/software/trial/
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Erika L. Walker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: 05 July 2002 18:00
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Naming Convention choice
> 
> I second this ... Just like we all hate people who type in caps all the
> time, reading code that's all uppercased make me feel like I have a
> hangover! The only thing we uppercase is our TABLE NAMES and FIELD
> NAMES, so they stick out when we're doing forms, which is almost all we
> ever do.  Though sometimes the SQL gets difficult to read, it's
> easier on the outputting side.
> 
> It all really comes down to who prefers pink and who prefers blue
> though.
> 
> I like brown. ;)
> 
> Erika
> 
> 
> >>| From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >>| 
> >>|   I would recommend lowercasing CF tags.  This will make it
> >>| consistent with 
> >>| XHTML.
> >>|   For more information, look here 
> >>| <http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/#diffs>
> >>|   I also (personally) think that all lowercase words are 
> >>| easier to read than words in all uppercase.
> >>| 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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RE: Naming Convention choice

2002-07-05 Thread Matt Robertson

Great resource.  Thx for posting.

I can't seem to find the CF Style guide linked from HOF's home page.  It
goes to an old FusionAuthority weekly, but for some reason I can't find
the link from there.  What am I missing?

--Matt Robertson--
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http://mysecretbase.com



-Original Message-
From: Neil Clark - =TMM= [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 10:33 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Naming Convention choice


Here is a very interesting doc by Sean Corfield :

http://www.corfield.org/coldfusion/codingStandards.htm

it is a pretty good insight of coding standards with the Macromedia
family and indeed is probably a good step toward a "standard" for us
MM'ers







Neil Clark
Team Macromedia
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Announcing Macromedia MX!! 
http://www.macromedia.com/software/trial/




-Original Message-
From: Erika L. Walker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 05 July 2002 18:00
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Naming Convention choice

I second this ... Just like we all hate people who type in caps all the
time, reading code that's all uppercased make me feel like I have a
hangover! The only thing we uppercase is our TABLE NAMES and FIELD
NAMES, so they stick out when we're doing forms, which is almost all we
ever do.  Though sometimes the SQL gets difficult to read, it's
easier on the outputting side.

It all really comes down to who prefers pink and who prefers blue
though.

I like brown. ;)

Erika


>>| From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>| 
>>|   I would recommend lowercasing CF tags.  This will make it
>>| consistent with 
>>| XHTML.
>>|   For more information, look here 
>>| <http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/#diffs>
>>|   I also (personally) think that all lowercase words are 
>>| easier to read than words in all uppercase.
>>| 



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RE: Naming Convention choice

2002-07-05 Thread Jeffry Houser

At 01:18 PM 7/5/2002 -0400, you wrote:
> >   I would recommend lowercasing CF tags.  This will make it consistent
> >with
> >XHTML.
> >   For more information, look here 
> >   I also (personally) think that all lowercase words are easier to read
> >than words in all uppercase.
>
>While I agree that all lower case words are easier on the eyes that all
>upper case, I've really never understood people who advocate your first
>argument.

  The only single reasoning I can offer is for consistency with other 
standards.  ColdFusion Servers don't care (as you state).

>As a side note, I think you might run into the problem with custom tags by
>putting a trailing slash at the end of the call where the tag gets run
>twice. I could be wrong, but I thought I remember seeing that happen before.
>For example:
>
>

  You bring up a very valid point, but it depends on the custom tag.  You 
can write a custom tag to perform differently in regards to start and end 
tags.  A custom tag written to perform different actions based on whether 
the start or end tag is being processed.  If the tag is written as such, 
the above example will perform as expected.  However, in my experience that 
is the exception, not the rule.



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RE: Naming Convention choice

2002-07-05 Thread Neil Clark - =TMM=

Here is a very interesting doc by Sean Corfield :

http://www.corfield.org/coldfusion/codingStandards.htm

it is a pretty good insight of coding standards with the Macromedia
family and indeed is probably a good step toward a "standard" for us
MM'ers







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-Original Message-
From: Erika L. Walker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 05 July 2002 18:00
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Naming Convention choice

I second this ... Just like we all hate people who type in caps all the
time, reading code that's all uppercased make me feel like I have a
hangover! The only thing we uppercase is our TABLE NAMES and FIELD
NAMES, so they stick out when we're doing forms, which is almost all we
ever do.  Though sometimes the SQL gets difficult to read, it's
easier on the outputting side.

It all really comes down to who prefers pink and who prefers blue
though.

I like brown. ;)

Erika


>>| From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
>>| 
>>|   I would recommend lowercasing CF tags.  This will make it 
>>| consistent with 
>>| XHTML.
>>|   For more information, look here 
>>| <http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/#diffs>
>>|   I also (personally) think that all lowercase words are 
>>| easier to read than words in all uppercase.
>>| 


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RE: Naming Convention choice

2002-07-05 Thread Matt Robertson

Of course not... 

Cheers,

--Matt--


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">
> Head hurts, vision blurry... Happy 5th of July ;D"



I understand ... question, does Europe and other countries have a 4th of
July too?

Paul Giesenhagen
QuillDesign



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Re: Naming Convention choice

2002-07-05 Thread Yves Arsenault

I lower case all my tags as well



TableNames

Like that..

Not to change the subject to much, but man, I'm glad it's Friday
:-)

Yves

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Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 2:00 PM
Subject: RE: Naming Convention choice


> I second this ... Just like we all hate people who type in caps all the
> time, reading code that's all uppercased make me feel like I have a
> hangover! The only thing we uppercase is our TABLE NAMES and FIELD
> NAMES, so they stick out when we're doing forms, which is almost all we
> ever do.  Though sometimes the SQL gets difficult to read, it's
> easier on the outputting side.
>
> It all really comes down to who prefers pink and who prefers blue
> though.
>
> I like brown. ;)
>
> Erika
> 
>
> >>| From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >>|
> >>|   I would recommend lowercasing CF tags.  This will make it
> >>| consistent with
> >>| XHTML.
> >>|   For more information, look here
> >>| <http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/#diffs>
> >>|   I also (personally) think that all lowercase words are
> >>| easier to read than words in all uppercase.
> >>|
>
> 
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RE: Naming Convention choice

2002-07-05 Thread Dave Carabetta

>   I would recommend lowercasing CF tags.  This will make it consistent 
>with
>XHTML.
>   For more information, look here 
>   I also (personally) think that all lowercase words are easier to read
>than words in all uppercase.

While I agree that all lower case words are easier on the eyes that all 
upper case, I've really never understood people who advocate your first 
argument.

CF is server-side code and does not get sent back to the browser (as I know 
you know). So you gain nothing by trying to follow the XHTML standards with 
your CF code. HTML tags I can see because it does have an effect on 
established public compliance standards. But to compare them is apples and 
oranges, in my opinion, since CF code is never returned to the browser.

As a side note, I think you might run into the problem with custom tags by 
putting a trailing slash at the end of the call where the tag gets run 
twice. I could be wrong, but I thought I remember seeing that happen before. 
For example:



Personally, this whole discussion boils down to personal 
preference...period. As I said, I personally think that writing my tags in 
all lower case is easier on my eyes, so that's how I do it. I also have SQL 
rules where I capitalize keywords, lower case columns and tables, and put 
each column in my statement on its own row. But that's just my preference 
because it's easier to read my code and know what's going on. I'm not going 
to mandate that somebody write their CF code the same way. That's kind of 
ridiculous. There are a lot of other more important standards that should be 
implemented within a development team before I even *think* of casing.

Just my $.02.

Regards,
Dave.



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RE: Naming Convention choice

2002-07-05 Thread Erika L. Walker

I second this ... Just like we all hate people who type in caps all the
time, reading code that's all uppercased make me feel like I have a
hangover! The only thing we uppercase is our TABLE NAMES and FIELD
NAMES, so they stick out when we're doing forms, which is almost all we
ever do.  Though sometimes the SQL gets difficult to read, it's
easier on the outputting side.

It all really comes down to who prefers pink and who prefers blue
though.

I like brown. ;)

Erika


>>| From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
>>| 
>>|   I would recommend lowercasing CF tags.  This will make it 
>>| consistent with 
>>| XHTML.
>>|   For more information, look here 
>>| 
>>|   I also (personally) think that all lowercase words are 
>>| easier to read than words in all uppercase.
>>| 

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RE: Naming Convention choice

2002-07-05 Thread Jeffry Houser

  I would recommend lowercasing CF tags.  This will make it consistent with 
XHTML.
  For more information, look here 
  I also (personally) think that all lowercase words are easier to read 
than words in all uppercase.


At 09:23 AM 7/5/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>Capitalize CF tags, mix case parameters (QueryName) and CF functions and
>uppercase AND, OR, NOT, EQ, NEQ etc.
>
>Head hurts, vision blurry... Happy 5th of July ;D
>
>--Matt Robertson--
>MSB Designs, Inc.
>http://mysecretbase.com
>
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Paul Giesenhagen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 7:14 AM
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: OT: Naming Convention choice
>
>
>Curious as to which one people prefer.
>
>
>
>OR
>
>
>
>Also, out of curiosity these too:
>
> (all caps)
>
>Or
>
>
>
>Thanks
>Paul Giesenhagen
>QuillDesign
>
>
>
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RE: Naming Convention choice

2002-07-05 Thread Shawn McKee

Yes, they just don't celebrate it as US Independence day. ;-)

Shawn McKee

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">
> Head hurts, vision blurry... Happy 5th of July ;D"



I understand ... question, does Europe and other countries have a 4th of
July too?

Paul Giesenhagen
QuillDesign



(Or do they go from the 3rd to the 5th USA Humor)




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Re: Naming Convention choice

2002-07-05 Thread Paul Giesenhagen

">
> Head hurts, vision blurry... Happy 5th of July ;D"



I understand ... question, does Europe and other countries have a 4th of
July too?

Paul Giesenhagen
QuillDesign



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RE: Naming Convention choice

2002-07-05 Thread Matt Robertson

Capitalize CF tags, mix case parameters (QueryName) and CF functions and
uppercase AND, OR, NOT, EQ, NEQ etc.

Head hurts, vision blurry... Happy 5th of July ;D

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From: Paul Giesenhagen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 7:14 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: OT: Naming Convention choice


Curious as to which one people prefer.



OR



Also, out of curiosity these too:

 (all caps)

Or



Thanks
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QuillDesign


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Re: Naming Convention choice

2002-07-05 Thread Charlie





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Subject: OT: Naming Convention choice


> Curious as to which one people prefer.
>
> 
>
> OR
>
> 
>
> Also, out of curiosity these too:
>
>  (all caps)
>
> Or
>
> 
>
> Thanks
> Paul Giesenhagen
> QuillDesign
>
> 
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RE: Naming Convention choice

2002-07-05 Thread Mark A. Kruger - CFG

Paul,

I use the underscore and mixed case for tags.  The most important thing is
to find a style that makes sense to you (and your team) and conform to it
throughout your projects.  I hate doing application mods where the coding is
inconsistent. Of course with the case-insensitive nature of CF, it's largely
a matter of readability.  Also, I would point out that using the underscore
may cause confusion in the new world of flash remoting - where underscores
provide functionality in some cases. Finally, if you use the underscore for
variable names in cf 4-5, watch out for automatically evaluated variable
extensions in the form scope (_date, _number etc.).  This can cause a
ticklish error that is difficult to troubleshoot.

Mark

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Subject: OT: Naming Convention choice


Curious as to which one people prefer.



OR



Also, out of curiosity these too:

 (all caps)

Or



Thanks
Paul Giesenhagen
QuillDesign


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RE: Naming Convention choice

2002-07-05 Thread Jim Vosika

I do: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 9:19 AM
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I use this:



Erika


>>| -Original Message-
>>| From: Paul Giesenhagen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
>>| Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 3:14 PM
>>| To: CF-Talk
>>| Subject: OT: Naming Convention choice
>>| 
>>| 
>>| Curious as to which one people prefer.
>>| 
>>| 
>>| 
>>| OR
>>| 
>>| 
>>| 
>>| Also, out of curiosity these too:
>>| 
>>|  (all caps)
>>| 
>>| Or
>>| 
>>| 
>>| 
>>| Thanks
>>| Paul Giesenhagen
>>| QuillDesign
>>| 
>>| 

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RE: Naming Convention choice

2002-07-05 Thread Ryan Pieszak

I tend to use this format...

CF specific tags in caps, var names spaced and capitalized.

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Curious as to which one people prefer.



OR



Also, out of curiosity these too:

 (all caps)

Or



Thanks
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QuillDesign


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RE: Naming Convention choice

2002-07-05 Thread Erika L. Walker

I use this:



Erika


>>| -Original Message-
>>| From: Paul Giesenhagen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
>>| Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 3:14 PM
>>| To: CF-Talk
>>| Subject: OT: Naming Convention choice
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>>| Curious as to which one people prefer.
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>>| OR
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>>| Also, out of curiosity these too:
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>>|  (all caps)
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>>| Or
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>>| Thanks
>>| Paul Giesenhagen
>>| QuillDesign
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>>| 
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