Re: OT/SOT: ColdFusion Word Doc Sharing
E C list wrote: Folks- I've been tasked to come up with a way for television script writers to share and co-edit word docs. It would need to be an online solution, because they are distributed around the USA. Only one editor at a time needs to edit the document, and they don't need to collaborate in real-time...but changes need to be tracked. I've been trying to figure out what's the best way to handle this among several options. The one that's winning right now is to basically have people use Microsoft Word as they are used to, and then upload revisions of a document to an intranet that will show previous versions of said document. I have been dabbling with OpenDocument and some XML diff utilities and if it falls in the time-budget I think you can make an excellent system with it. OpenDocument, the OASIS format used by kOffice, OpenOffice, StarOffice etc., is a little different from WordML in that it consists of multiple XML documents grouped in a .zip. One document for the styles, one for each image, one for the content etc. (There is no reason ths should work with WordML too, but that produces huge XML files because everything is put in one file.) I presume that script writers don't add images etc. to their documents and they all use the same set of corporate styles. That makes it very easy to extract the content: extract content.xml from the zip archive and forget about the rest. Now you have a relative small and straightforward XML file with the content. Store / merge / diff it, whatever the requirements are and rebuild your OpenDocument file by just putting the content.xml back in. Fairly straightforward, but it is lots of work, many things you will need to automate from scratch, but the individual steps work. Jochem ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:212103 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: OT/SOT: ColdFusion Word Doc Sharing
Thanks everyone who responded. I am going to follow up on your suggestions and see if these ideas will match our needs. Michael, I am not sure what Microsoft means, but their sharepoint website home page and the download area both state that sharepoint is free if you have 2003 Server (which I do)...but on another page it actually gives pricing. I guess I only see what I want to see...but it does say more than once things like There is no additional charge for Windows SharePoint Services. But I guess maybe there are extra charges for CALs...I am not sure I wish they'd make their pricing schemes easier to digest. I really appreciate everyone's input here. -Original Message- From: Michael T. Tangorre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2005 10:12 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: OT/SOT: ColdFusion Word Doc Sharing From: E C list [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Folks- I've been tasked to come up with a way for television script writers to share and co-edit word docs. It would need to be an online solution, because they are distributed around the USA. Only one editor at a time needs to edit the document, and they don't need to collaborate in real-time...but changes need to be tracked. I've been trying to figure out what's the best way to handle this among several options. The one that's winning right now is to basically have people use Microsoft Word as they are used to, and then upload revisions of a document to an intranet that will show previous versions of said document. I've also thought about some sort of WIKI-like environment, but one concern is they kind of need the editor to have features like Microsoft word has (for instance pagination, and tracking changes, easy to work with tables, etc.) (Can anyone point me at a free ColdFusion based Wiki environment?) Not a ColdFusion solution, but we have offices all over the world and use Microsoft Sharepoint for exactly this. If you have the $ for it, it is a great solution. Mike T. ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:212109 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: OT/SOT: ColdFusion Word Doc Sharing
From: E C list [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks everyone who responded. I am going to follow up on your suggestions and see if these ideas will match our needs. Michael, I am not sure what Microsoft means, but their sharepoint website home page and the download area both state that sharepoint is free if you have 2003 Server (which I do)...but on another page it actually gives pricing. I guess I only see what I want to see...but it does say more than once things like There is no additional charge for Windows SharePoint Services. But I guess maybe there are extra charges for CALs...I am not sure I wish they'd make their pricing schemes easier to digest. I wish I could give you more information on Sharepoint pricing. I could ask the network engineers here for a quick run down on pricing as based on our relationship with MS (gold partners). Mike ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:212110 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: OT/SOT: ColdFusion Word Doc Sharing
Sounds like a great use for Groove Workspace. For $35 a seat, you can't beat it. www.groove.net -Original Message- From: E C list [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2005 7:04 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: OT/SOT: ColdFusion Word Doc Sharing Folks- I've been tasked to come up with a way for television script writers to share and co-edit word docs. It would need to be an online solution, because they are distributed around the USA. Only one editor at a time needs to edit the document, and they don't need to collaborate in real-time...but changes need to be tracked. I've been trying to figure out what's the best way to handle this among several options. The one that's winning right now is to basically have people use Microsoft Word as they are used to, and then upload revisions of a document to an intranet that will show previous versions of said document. I've also thought about some sort of WIKI-like environment, but one concern is they kind of need the editor to have features like Microsoft word has (for instance pagination, and tracking changes, easy to work with tables, etc.) (Can anyone point me at a free ColdFusion based Wiki environment?) I am wondering if anyone else has any ideas for this. Thank you! Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:212119 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: OT/SOT: ColdFusion Word Doc Sharing
Might check out fusiondox (a CF based solution). We looked at it at CFunited kinda a cool app, not sure on pricing. Adam H On 7/18/05, Connie DeCinko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ooops, sorry, the upgrade is $35, that's what I remembered. Nice thing, you can install each license upon up to 5 of your computers. -Original Message- From: E C list [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 10:54 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: OT/SOT: ColdFusion Word Doc Sharing Connie, this looks like a very good match for what we need. I'll definitely run this one up the flag pole! Pricing seems to be much higher than $35 though. Seems more like $150+. But it may still be in the budget. Thank you for the suggestion. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:212154 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: OT/SOT: ColdFusion Word Doc Sharing
Take a look at Groove (http://www.groove.net/) I use it for small project management and document sharing all the time and it rocks. It's a desktop app, not CF, but it's cool. Pete ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:212140 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: OT/SOT: ColdFusion Word Doc Sharing
Ooops, sorry, the upgrade is $35, that's what I remembered. Nice thing, you can install each license upon up to 5 of your computers. -Original Message- From: E C list [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 10:54 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: OT/SOT: ColdFusion Word Doc Sharing Connie, this looks like a very good match for what we need. I'll definitely run this one up the flag pole! Pricing seems to be much higher than $35 though. Seems more like $150+. But it may still be in the budget. Thank you for the suggestion. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:212143 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: OT/SOT: ColdFusion Word Doc Sharing
Connie, this looks like a very good match for what we need. I'll definitely run this one up the flag pole! Pricing seems to be much higher than $35 though. Seems more like $150+. But it may still be in the budget. Thank you for the suggestion. -Original Message- From: Connie DeCinko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 11:56 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: OT/SOT: ColdFusion Word Doc Sharing Sounds like a great use for Groove Workspace. For $35 a seat, you can't beat it. www.groove.net -Original Message- From: E C list [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2005 7:04 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: OT/SOT: ColdFusion Word Doc Sharing Folks- I've been tasked to come up with a way for television script writers to share and co-edit word docs. It would need to be an online solution, because they are distributed around the USA. Only one editor at a time needs to edit the document, and they don't need to collaborate in real-time...but changes need to be tracked. I've been trying to figure out what's the best way to handle this among several options. The one that's winning right now is to basically have people use Microsoft Word as they are used to, and then upload revisions of a document to an intranet that will show previous versions of said document. I've also thought about some sort of WIKI-like environment, but one concern is they kind of need the editor to have features like Microsoft word has (for instance pagination, and tracking changes, easy to work with tables, etc.) (Can anyone point me at a free ColdFusion based Wiki environment?) I am wondering if anyone else has any ideas for this. Thank you! Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:212128 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: OT/SOT: ColdFusion Word Doc Sharing
From: E C list [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Folks- I've been tasked to come up with a way for television script writers to share and co-edit word docs. It would need to be an online solution, because they are distributed around the USA. Only one editor at a time needs to edit the document, and they don't need to collaborate in real-time...but changes need to be tracked. I've been trying to figure out what's the best way to handle this among several options. The one that's winning right now is to basically have people use Microsoft Word as they are used to, and then upload revisions of a document to an intranet that will show previous versions of said document. I've also thought about some sort of WIKI-like environment, but one concern is they kind of need the editor to have features like Microsoft word has (for instance pagination, and tracking changes, easy to work with tables, etc.) (Can anyone point me at a free ColdFusion based Wiki environment?) Not a ColdFusion solution, but we have offices all over the world and use Microsoft Sharepoint for exactly this. If you have the $ for it, it is a great solution. Mike T. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:212092 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: OT/SOT: ColdFusion Word Doc Sharing
Also, take a look at Daisy, Open source, not CF, but free. Just had a review in InfoWorld. http://www.outerthought.org/daisy.html http://www.infoworld.com/article/05/07/11/28TCxmlcm_1.html Mark ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:212094 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
