Re: Rich Text Editor - what really handles cut'n paste from Word?
I have had issues with word and pasting, but if they use the cleaner, it works great...never had a problem with that aspect. It's a matter of training and making sure that if they do not use it, they will be in putting garbage. Explain that it is an issue with the control code that is attached to text from word documents. Just drill it into thier heads (if I can do that with customer service people, lawyers can't be that difficult *grin*) that they need to use it. Also, I am not sure if there is a diff witht he the version built into CF 8 and the standalone, but I was using the standalone version... Eric On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 12:49 AM, Mike Kear afpwebwo...@gmail.com wrote: You can completely customise the toolbars on FCKEditor. You can replace the generic pastefunction with Paste from word so if they always just paste, they'll get paste from wordanyway.Or you could change the buttons used so the paste from wordbutton has the generic pastebutton instead. And you can move the 'paste from word' functionality from where it currently is, to the location of the 'paste' function. Not only that, you can do it externally to the FCKEditor files, so that when a new version comes out you still just unpack the release files and your customisations still work fine. There's plenty of easy to read documentation on how to do it, and how to do it in an external config file on the FCKEditor site at http://docs.fckeditor.net/FCKeditor_2.x/Developers_Guide Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET http://asp.net/ hosting from AUD$15/month On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 5:33 PM, Jochem van Dieten joch...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 8:18 PM, Les Mizzell wrote: There's one group in particular that is going to cut and paste *everything* from Word, and even with the cleanup features and stuff in FCK, this is still problematic for the client. Yea, I know, Word produces some of the gawd-awful bloated ... uhh, never mind - it's terrible. So, I'm looking for a new editor for them that will handle Word better. I don't care what it costs, within reason. What exactly is your problem, non-ASCII characters or HTML entities? If you just use Uncode all the non-ASCII characters should work just fine, and the HTML cleanup features of fckeditor work pretty well for me too. Jochem ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:317107 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Rich Text Editor - what really handles cut'n paste from Word?
Just drill it into thier heads (if I can do that with customer service people, lawyers can't be that difficult *grin*) Heh - lawyers think they're *above* everybody else though! Also, I am not sure if there is a diff witht he the version built into CF 8 and the standalone, but I was using the standalone version... Same here - currently, I believe the stand-alone version is one version ahead of the included CF8 version. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:317109 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Rich Text Editor - what really handles cut'n paste from Word?
Sorry, no answers, but a question... Do they refuse to use Notepad for their editor? Rick -Original Message- From: Les Mizzell [mailto:lesm...@bellsouth.net] Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 2:18 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Rich Text Editor - what really handles cut'n paste from Word? Looking for advice ... Currently have FCKeditor implemented on the admin systems for most of our data-driven sites. There's one group in particular that is going to cut and paste *everything* from Word, and even with the cleanup features and stuff in FCK, this is still problematic for the client. Yea, I know, Word produces some of the gawd-awful bloated ... uhh, never mind - it's terrible. So, I'm looking for a new editor for them that will handle Word better. I don't care what it costs, within reason. I've been Googling for a number of hours, but there's a bewildering amount of stuff out there, and 75% of it is probably not as good as FCKedit. What do you folks have experience with that might be worth looking at? ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:317076 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Rich Text Editor - what really handles cut'n paste from Word?
Les, There's one group in particular that is going to cut and paste *everything* from Word, and even with the cleanup features and stuff in FCK, this is still problematic for the client. Yea, I know, Word produces some of the gawd-awful bloated ... uhh, never mind - it's terrible. So, I'm looking for a new editor for them that will handle Word better. I don't care what it costs, within reason. The best product I've seen for dealing with Word is XStandard. The only gotcha is it's an ActiveX/Plug-in for the browser. Since this is an admin feature, this probably isn't a big deal, but it does involve installing a 3rd party application. The really nice thing about XStandard is that you can cut-n-paste Word documents with embedded images and you can upload the images via a web service--no need for users to upload images independently and then re-insert them. They can just paste them right into the canvas. -Dan ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:317077 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Rich Text Editor - what really handles cut'n paste from Word?
Do they refuse to use Notepad for their editor? Bunch of lawyers! You gotta be kidding! Believe me, I've been around and around with them on this issue for several *years* now! We bow at the table of Microsoft and shalt use WORD and nothing but WORD for all things written ... and you're not going to tell us any different because we're more important than you are!! ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:317078 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Rich Text Editor - what really handles cut'n paste from Word?
Word is always an issue, but if you're using a form text field, here's a couple of CF Replace functions you can run strings through deal with Word characters. I've used this for awhile and it seems to deal very reliably with the most predictable crap that comes from word. This email may mess this up... if it does I'll post a file so you can download the strings. Putting data that has been cut/paste from word into a DB, run the following on the text field to prepare it for HTML. '#ReplaceList(trim(form.txt1), ',.,,,T,R,C,#chr(13)#,br,,'',...,,,trade;,reg;,copy;,br /,)#' Pulling data from DB, run the following on output to be displayed in a text field: #ReplaceList(trim(getrecord.txt1),trade;,reg;,copy;,br /,T,R,C,#chr(13)#)# Robert B. Harrison Director of Interactive services Austin Williams 125 Kennedy Drive, Suite 100 Hauppauge NY 11788 T : 631.231.6600 Ext. 119 F : 631.434.7022 www.austin-williams.com Great advertising can't be either/or... It must be . ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:317084 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Rich Text Editor - what really handles cut'n paste from Word?
All right... as I suspected the characters got replaced in the email... so I put it in a WORD DOCUMENT (ironic). Go to: http://www.austin-williams.com/word_character_parsing.doc and download that file. There are a couple of strings that will parse most WORD docs successfully enough. Just copy/past the code in to your CF edtor. Hope that helps. Robert B. Harrison Director of Interactive services Austin Williams 125 Kennedy Drive, Suite 100 Hauppauge NY 11788 T : 631.231.6600 Ext. 119 F : 631.434.7022 www.austin-williams.com Great advertising can't be either/or... It must be . -Original Message- From: Robert Harrison [mailto:rob...@austin-williams.com] Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 3:12 PM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Rich Text Editor - what really handles cut'n paste from Word? Word is always an issue, but if you're using a form text field, here's a couple of CF Replace functions you can run strings through deal with Word characters. I've used this for awhile and it seems to deal very reliably with the most predictable crap that comes from word. This email may mess this up... if it does I'll post a file so you can download the strings. Putting data that has been cut/paste from word into a DB, run the following on the text field to prepare it for HTML. '#ReplaceList(trim(form.txt1), ',.,,,T,R,C,#chr(13)#,br,,'',...,,,trade;,reg;,copy;,br /,)#' Pulling data from DB, run the following on output to be displayed in a text field: #ReplaceList(trim(getrecord.txt1),trade;,reg;,copy;,br /,T,R,C,#chr(13)#)# Robert B. Harrison Director of Interactive services Austin Williams 125 Kennedy Drive, Suite 100 Hauppauge NY 11788 T : 631.231.6600 Ext. 119 F : 631.434.7022 www.austin-williams.com Great advertising can't be either/or... It must be . ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:317085 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Rich Text Editor - what really handles cut'n paste from Word?
Bunch of lawyers! Tell'm you'll sue them if they import garbage in your system! ;-) ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:317092 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Rich Text Editor - what really handles cut'n paste from Word?
What do you folks have experience with that might be worth looking at? It was quite a while ago, but I found there was too many flaws the way FCK was designed. 1. FCK only had Word cleanup as an option. If the user doen't use it, you will get all the garbage anyway. 2. all other ways to import text (ie: cut'n paste, drag'n drop, right-click and paste...) would bypass the cleaner. So I designed my own editor in which MSWord cleanup is mandatory. Like in FCKeditor, I use Regexp in the process, but with many more expressions and more cleaning. Here is the first par of the cleaning function (the whole thing will be cut by the CF_talk system) function cleanWord (html) // cleans pasted text from Word { //alert(html) html = html.replace(/o:p\s*\/o:p/g, ) ; html = html.replace(/o:p.*?\/o:p/g, ) ; // Remove mso-xxx styles. html = html.replace( /\s*mso-[^:]+:[^;]+;?/gi, ) ; // Remove margin styles. html = html.replace( /\s*MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt\s*;/gi, ) ; html = html.replace( /\s*MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt\s*/gi, \ ) ; html = html.replace( /\s*TEXT-INDENT: 0cm\s*;/gi, ) ; html = html.replace( /\s*TEXT-INDENT: 0cm\s*/gi, \ ) ; html = html.replace( /\s*TEXT-ALIGN: [^\s;]+;?/gi, \ ) ; html = html.replace( /\s*PAGE-BREAK-BEFORE: [^\s;]+;?/gi, \ ) ; html = html.replace( /\s*FONT-VARIANT: [^\s;]+;?/gi, \ ) ; html = html.replace( /\s*tab-stops:[^;]*;?/gi, ) ; html = html.replace( /\s*tab-stops:[^]*/gi, ) ; html = html.replace( /\s*FONT-FAMILY:[^;]*;?/gi, ) ; // Remove Class attributes html = html.replace(/(\w[^]*)\s*class=([^ |]*)([^]*)/gi, $1$3) ; // Remove styles. html = html.replace( /(\w[^]*)style=([^\]*)([^]*)/gi, $1$3 ) ; // Remove empty styles. html = html.replace( /\s*style=\s*/gi, '' ) ; html = html.replace( /SPAN[^]*\s*nbsp;\s*\/SPAN/gi, 'nbsp;' ) ; html = html.replace( /SPAN[^]*\s*\/SPAN/gi, '' ) ; // Remove Lang attributes html = html.replace(/(\w[^]*) lang=([^ |]*)([^]*)/gi, $1$3) ; html = html.replace( /SPAN\s*([\s\S]*?)\/SPAN/gi, '$1' ) ; html = html.replace( /SPAN\s*([\s\S]*?)\/SPAN/gi, '$1' ) ; html = html.replace( /SPAN\s*([\s\S]*?)\/SPAN/gi, '$1' ) ; // remove all font tags html = html.replace( /\/?FONT[^]*/gi, '' ) ; html = html.replace( /\/?FONT[^]*/gi, '' ) ; html = html.replace( /\/?FONT[^]*/gi, '' ) ; html = html.replace( /\/?DIV([^]*)/gi, '' ) ; // Remove XML elements and declarations html = html.replace(/\\?\?xml[^]*/gi, ) ; // Remove Tags with XML namespace declarations: o:p/o:p html = html.replace(/\/?\w+:[^]*/gi, ) ; html = html.replace( /H\d\s*\/H\d/gi, '' ) ; ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:317093 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Rich Text Editor - what really handles cut'n paste from Word?
And here is the second part: //clean up H tags html = html.replace( /H1([^]*)/gi, 'H1' ) ; html = html.replace( /H2([^]*)/gi, 'H2' ) ; html = html.replace( /H3([^]*)/gi, 'H3' ) ; html = html.replace( /H4([^]*)/gi, 'H4' ) ; html = html.replace( /H5([^]*)/gi, 'H5' ) ; html = html.replace( /H6([^]*)/gi, 'H6' ) ; html = html.replace( /P([^]*)/gi, 'P' ) ; html = html.replace( /BR([^]*)/gi, 'BR' ) ; html = html.replace( /P\s*(P)+\/P/gi, 'P' ) ; html = html.replace( /\/P\s*(\/P)+\/P/gi, '/P' ) ; html = html.replace( /(U|I|STRIKE)nbsp;\/\1/g, 'nbsp;' ) ; // no comment... html = html.replace( /!--[\s\S]*?--/gi, '' ) ; // transform bullet lists var re = new RegExp(P·SPAN(nbsp;| )*/SPAN([\\s\\S]*?)/P, gi); html = html.replace( re, LI$2/LI ) ; re = new RegExp(P·(nbsp;| )*([\\s\\S]*?)/P, gi); html = html.replace( /(BR|P)[§·-](nbsp;| )*([\s\S]*?)\/P/gi, LI$2/LI ) ; // remove spaces at begining html = html.replace( /^(nbsp;| )*\s*/, '') ; // replace all stupid P align=center.../P because they are overridden by higher // style declarations like justify, etc. html = html.replace( /P\s*align=center([\s\S]*?)\/P/gi, 'BRCENTER$1/CENTER' ) ; // remove useless /CENTERCENTER html = html.replace( /\/CENTER(\s*BR\s*)CENTER/gi, '$1' ) ; // remove useless BR in TD html = html.replace( /(TD[^]*)\s*BR\s*/gi, '$1' ) ; // remove useless A name=.../A html = html.replace( /A\s+name=[^]+\/A/gi, '' ) ; // replace CENTER.../CENTER inside of TDs html = html.replace( /(TD[^]*)\s*CENTER([\s\S]*?)\/CENTER\s*\/TD/gi, '$1 align=center$2/TD' ) ; // remove Paragraphs inside TD html = html.replace(/(TD[^]*)\s*P[^]*([\s\S]*?)\s*\/P\s*([\s\S]*?\/TD)/gi, '$1$2$3'); // prepare to initilize tables html = html.replace( /TABLE/gi, 'TABLE ID=new_table'); // Remplacer TD.../TD par TDnbsp;/TD html = html.replace( /(TD([^]*))\s*\/TD/gi, '$1nbsp;/TD') ; // Remove empty tags (three times, just to be sure SAUF TD/TD). html = html.replace( /([^\s]+)[^]*\s*\/\1/g, '' ) ; html = html.replace( /([^\s]+)[^]*\s*\/\1/g, '' ) ; html = html.replace( /([^\s]+)[^]*\s*\/\1/g, '' ) ; html = html.replace( /[^\n\r]P/gi, 'P' ) ; html = html.replace( /[^\n\r]BR/gi, 'BR' ) ; // supprimer les largeurs des tables html = html.replace( /(table.+)width\s*=s*[\\']?[0-9]+%?[\\']?/gi, '1' ) ; //alert(html) return (html); } ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:317094 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Rich Text Editor - what really handles cut'n paste from Word?
i use TinyMCE, and it handles pasting from Word very well - one just has to use the Paste from Word button, iirc... it quiet easy to set up and is highly customisable/configurable. http://tinymce.moxiecode.com/ Azadi Saryev Sabai-dee.com http://www.sabai-dee.com/ Les Mizzell wrote: Looking for advice ... Currently have FCKeditor implemented on the admin systems for most of our data-driven sites. There's one group in particular that is going to cut and paste *everything* from Word, and even with the cleanup features and stuff in FCK, this is still problematic for the client. Yea, I know, Word produces some of the gawd-awful bloated ... uhh, never mind - it's terrible. So, I'm looking for a new editor for them that will handle Word better. I don't care what it costs, within reason. I've been Googling for a number of hours, but there's a bewildering amount of stuff out there, and 75% of it is probably not as good as FCKedit. What do you folks have experience with that might be worth looking at? ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:317095 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Rich Text Editor - what really handles cut'n paste from Word?
one just has to use the Paste from Word button That's the trouble: nobody uses this button ;-) Users use cut'n paste, drag'n drop, whatever they can, except this strange button they don't know about. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:317097 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Rich Text Editor - what really handles cut'n paste from Word?
iirc, you can customise TinyMCE in such a way that the Word cleanup is run automatiaclly on Ctrl+V and Paste button click... it's just that i have set it up such a long time ago that i can't recall the exact setting i used - i never had to change them since... Azadi Saryev Sabai-dee.com http://www.sabai-dee.com/ Claude Schneegans wrote: one just has to use the Paste from Word button That's the trouble: nobody uses this button ;-) Users use cut'n paste, drag'n drop, whatever they can, except this strange button they don't know about. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:317099 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Rich Text Editor - what really handles cut'n paste from Word?
Azadi Saryev wrote: i use TinyMCE, and it handles pasting from Word very well I started the site in question with TinyMCE, and then moved to FCKedit upon client request. This is a hard to please client - so nothing short of Microsoft releasing a inline web version of Word (gawd forbid!) is actually going to make them happy. They develop their docs in Word, and they darned well better look EXACTLY LIKE IT DID IN WORD after they cut'n paste into their web pages - withoug them having to do any additionaly work. I mentioned it was a difficult client, right? Wanna guess how many invoices I've gotten to send them over the last two years to clean up some of their Word generated docs so they would display *at all* on a web page within the given format? And I got additional filters and stuff installed to clean the FCKedit content before it's stored too - like previously suggested. Heh - Why is this page broken?? Well, you just pasted a 1500px wide table from Word into an 800px wide area. That's why! Well that can't happen! You've got to fix it! Ack ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:317100 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Rich Text Editor - what really handles cut'n paste from Word?
They develop their docs in Word, and they darned well better look EXACTLY LIKE IT DID IN WORD after they cut'n paste into their web pages - withoug them having to do any additionaly work. Maybe you should consider another approach. If someone needs exact layout of desktop documents, that's what PDF is for. They could upload PDFs, and you could display them inline, without any copying or pasting. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:317101 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Rich Text Editor - what really handles cut'n paste from Word?
On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 8:18 PM, Les Mizzell wrote: There's one group in particular that is going to cut and paste *everything* from Word, and even with the cleanup features and stuff in FCK, this is still problematic for the client. Yea, I know, Word produces some of the gawd-awful bloated ... uhh, never mind - it's terrible. So, I'm looking for a new editor for them that will handle Word better. I don't care what it costs, within reason. What exactly is your problem, non-ASCII characters or HTML entities? If you just use Uncode all the non-ASCII characters should work just fine, and the HTML cleanup features of fckeditor work pretty well for me too. Jochem ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:317102 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Rich Text Editor - what really handles cut'n paste from Word?
You can completely customise the toolbars on FCKEditor. You can replace the generic pastefunction with Paste from word so if they always just paste, they'll get paste from wordanyway.Or you could change the buttons used so the paste from wordbutton has the generic pastebutton instead. And you can move the 'paste from word' functionality from where it currently is, to the location of the 'paste' function. Not only that, you can do it externally to the FCKEditor files, so that when a new version comes out you still just unpack the release files and your customisations still work fine. There's plenty of easy to read documentation on how to do it, and how to do it in an external config file on the FCKEditor site at http://docs.fckeditor.net/FCKeditor_2.x/Developers_Guide Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 5:33 PM, Jochem van Dieten joch...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 8:18 PM, Les Mizzell wrote: There's one group in particular that is going to cut and paste *everything* from Word, and even with the cleanup features and stuff in FCK, this is still problematic for the client. Yea, I know, Word produces some of the gawd-awful bloated ... uhh, never mind - it's terrible. So, I'm looking for a new editor for them that will handle Word better. I don't care what it costs, within reason. What exactly is your problem, non-ASCII characters or HTML entities? If you just use Uncode all the non-ASCII characters should work just fine, and the HTML cleanup features of fckeditor work pretty well for me too. Jochem ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:317103 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Rich Text Editor
does it need to be cross browser compatible? -Original Message- From: Scott Wilhelm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 9:06 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Rich Text Editor Does anyone know of any free rich text editors to build into a CMS (like a WYSIWYG)? Thanks, Scott Scott Wilhelm Computer Technician/Web Developer http://www.sllboces.org http://www.sllboces.org/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Canton (Mon/Tue) St. Lawrence-Lewis BOCES PO Box 231, 139 State Street Road Canton, NY 13617 P. 315-386-4504 x 164 F. 315-386-3395 Heuvelton (Wed/Thu/Fri) Heuvelton Central School PO Box 375, 87 Washington Street Heuvelton, NY 13654 P. 315-344-2414 x 3651?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office / ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Rich Text Editor
SoEditor Lite by Site Objects is one as well as ActivEdit by CF-Dev.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/04/03 09:06AM Does anyone know of any free rich text editors to build into a CMS (like a WYSIWYG)? Thanks, Scott Scott Wilhelm Computer Technician/Web Developer http://www.sllboces.org http://www.sllboces.org/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Canton (Mon/Tue) St. Lawrence-Lewis BOCES PO Box 231, 139 State Street Road Canton, NY 13617 P. 315-386-4504 x 164 F. 315-386-3395 Heuvelton (Wed/Thu/Fri) Heuvelton Central School PO Box 375, 87 Washington Street Heuvelton, NY 13654 P. 315-344-2414 x 3651?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office / ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Rich Text Editor
I have built soEditor into a CMS, seems to be working ok. The crypted lite version is free of charge. I am moving towards XHTML, though, and I haven't tested it with that (I'd doubt that I would get xhtml compliant code from it... ?). /H. ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Rich Text Editor
Nope...IE only -Original Message- From: Tangorre, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 9:08 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Rich Text Editor does it need to be cross browser compatible? -Original Message- From: Scott Wilhelm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 9:06 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Rich Text Editor Does anyone know of any free rich text editors to build into a CMS (like a WYSIWYG)? Thanks, Scott Scott Wilhelm Computer Technician/Web Developer http://www.sllboces.org http://www.sllboces.org/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Canton (Mon/Tue) St. Lawrence-Lewis BOCES PO Box 231, 139 State Street Road Canton, NY 13617 P. 315-386-4504 x 164 F. 315-386-3395 Heuvelton (Wed/Thu/Fri) Heuvelton Central School PO Box 375, 87 Washington Street Heuvelton, NY 13654 P. 315-344-2414 x 3651?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office / ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Rich Text Editor
http://www.siteobjects.com/ soEditor is one of the best out there, particularly given that there is a free version. Does anyone know of any free rich text editors to build into a CMS (like a WYSIWYG)? Thanks, Scott ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Rich Text Editor
Does anyone know of any free rich text editors to build into a CMS (like a WYSIWYG)? SoEditor from siteobjects.com Taz ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Rich Text Editor
siteobjects.com its great Mark Stephenson New Media Director Evolution Internet T: 0870 757 1631 F: 0870 757 1632 W: www.evolutioninternet.co.uk E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WARNING: --- The information contained in this document and attachments is confidential and intended only for the person(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or any other use of the information is strictly prohibited. If you have received this document by mistake, please notify the sender immediately and destroy this document and attachments without making any copy of any kind. AVIS IMPORTANT: --- Les informations contenues dans le present document et ses pieces jointes sont strictement confidentielles et reservees a l'usage de la (des) personne(s) a qui il est adresse. Si vous n'etes pas le destinataire, soyez avise que toute divulgation, distribution, copie, ou autre utilisation de ces informations est strictement prohibee. Si vous avez recu ce document par erreur, veuillez s'il vous plait communiquer immediatement avec l'expediteur et detruire ce document sans en faire de copie sous quelque forme. -Original Message- From: Scott Wilhelm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 March 2003 14:06 To: CF-Talk Subject: Rich Text Editor Does anyone know of any free rich text editors to build into a CMS (like a WYSIWYG)? Thanks, Scott Scott Wilhelm Computer Technician/Web Developer http://www.sllboces.org http://www.sllboces.org/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Canton (Mon/Tue) St. Lawrence-Lewis BOCES PO Box 231, 139 State Street Road Canton, NY 13617 P. 315-386-4504 x 164 F. 315-386-3395 Heuvelton (Wed/Thu/Fri) Heuvelton Central School PO Box 375, 87 Washington Street Heuvelton, NY 13654 P. 315-344-2414 x 3651?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office / ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Rich Text Editor
There are two that I know of: Htmlareahttp://www.interactivetools.com RTE http://richtext.sourceforge.net They are both free and well supported (via a discussion forum) Luis -Original Message- From: Scott Wilhelm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 8:06 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Rich Text Editor Does anyone know of any free rich text editors to build into a CMS (like a WYSIWYG)? Thanks, Scott Scott Wilhelm Computer Technician/Web Developer http://www.sllboces.org http://www.sllboces.org/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Canton (Mon/Tue) St. Lawrence-Lewis BOCES PO Box 231, 139 State Street Road Canton, NY 13617 P. 315-386-4504 x 164 F. 315-386-3395 Heuvelton (Wed/Thu/Fri) Heuvelton Central School PO Box 375, 87 Washington Street Heuvelton, NY 13654 P. 315-344-2414 x 3651?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office / ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Rich Text Editor
soEditor 2.6 (to be released April 1st) will generate well formatted XHTML compliant code. Not to mention we will be introducing a new content sweeper framework that allows developers to plug-in there own sweepers if they don't like ours. Developers will also be able to have the sweepers ran when content is pasted into soEditor, on demand, and when a form containing soEditor is submitted. - James -Original Message- From: Hugo Ahlenius [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 9:09 AM To: CF-Talk I have built soEditor into a CMS, seems to be working ok. The crypted lite version is free of charge. I am moving towards XHTML, though, and I haven't tested it with that (I'd doubt that I would get xhtml compliant code from it... ?). /H. ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Rich Text Editor
Give htmlArea a try, it's very customizable and it's free. I've had success with it. http://www.interactivetools.com/products/htmlarea/download.cgi *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 3/4/2003 at 9:09 AM Scott Wilhelm wrote: |Nope...IE only | | -Original Message- | From: Tangorre, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 9:08 AM | To: CF-Talk | Subject: RE: Rich Text Editor | | | does it need to be cross browser compatible? | | | -Original Message- | From: Scott Wilhelm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 9:06 AM | To: CF-Talk | Subject: Rich Text Editor | | | Does anyone know of any free rich text editors to build into | a CMS (like | a WYSIWYG)? | | Thanks, | | Scott ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Rich Text Editor
http://www.interactivetools.com/products/htmlarea/ free and open source :) - Original Message - From: Taz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 9:13 AM Subject: Re: Rich Text Editor Does anyone know of any free rich text editors to build into a CMS (like a WYSIWYG)? SoEditor from siteobjects.com Taz ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Rich Text Editor
Damn that is a nice one, and free. Going to have to play with that when I get some time Thanks! Robert Bailey Famous for nothing -Original Message- From: Ewok [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 9:43 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Rich Text Editor http://www.interactivetools.com/products/htmlarea/ free and open source :) - Original Message - From: Taz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 9:13 AM Subject: Re: Rich Text Editor Does anyone know of any free rich text editors to build into a CMS (like a WYSIWYG)? SoEditor from siteobjects.com Taz ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Rich Text Editor
I had a tough time getting that to work last night. I took their exact code, that worked, tossed it into my page, and it wouldn't work. I took 2 hours from yesterday just trying to get it to work, but couldn't :( It looks good too. Scott -Original Message- From: Ewok [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 9:43 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Rich Text Editor http://www.interactivetools.com/products/htmlarea/ free and open source :) - Original Message - From: Taz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 9:13 AM Subject: Re: Rich Text Editor Does anyone know of any free rich text editors to build into a CMS (like a WYSIWYG)? SoEditor from siteobjects.com Taz ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Rich Text Editor
Massimo had a free XHTML editor DWMX extension. However I think it's been updated and included in one of the devnet kits. The free one worked for my purposes. I'm not sure if it's still out on the DW Exchange, but it's worth a try. Candace K. Cottrell, Web Developer The Children's Medical Center One Children's Plaza Dayton, OH 45404 937-641-4293 http://www.childrensdayton.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Rich Text Editor
ActivEdit is pretty solid from what I've seen/heard: www.cfdev.com Joshua Miller Head Programmer / IT Manager Garrison Enterprises Inc. www.garrisonenterprises.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] (704) 569-9044 ext. 254 * Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender states them to be the views of Garrison Enterprises Inc. This e-mail is intended only for the individual or entity to which it is addressed and contains information that is private and confidential. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please delete it immediately and advise us by return e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] * -Original Message- From: Robert Bailey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 9:31 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Rich Text Editor Damn that is a nice one, and free. Going to have to play with that when I get some time Thanks! Robert Bailey Famous for nothing -Original Message- From: Ewok [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 9:43 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Rich Text Editor http://www.interactivetools.com/products/htmlarea/ free and open source :) - Original Message - From: Taz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 9:13 AM Subject: Re: Rich Text Editor Does anyone know of any free rich text editors to build into a CMS (like a WYSIWYG)? SoEditor from siteobjects.com Taz ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Rich Text Editor
Joshua wrote: ActivEdit is pretty solid from what I've seen/heard: www.cfdev.com Its solid as a rock. You can get it installed in about 30 seconds. Well worth the purchase price, and the v3.0 features are all winners. Matt Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSB Designs, Inc. http://mysecretbase.com ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Rich Text Editor
Candace Cottrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Massimo had a free XHTML editor DWMX extension. However I think it's been updated and included in one of the devnet kits. The free one worked for my purposes. I'm not sure if it's still out on the DW Exchange, but it's worth a try. The one in the DRK is has at least two nasty bugs fixed compared to the original version You may get the custom tag (with basic english instructions) from the italian CFUG: http://www.cfmentor.com/code/index.cfm?action=zippedid=11 I was too busy in the last few months, so I halted developing on this, but you can see it in action here: http://hh212167-174.chicagowebs.com/cfxhtml/ http://hh212167-174.chicagowebs.com/cfxhtml/lite.cfm Massimo Foti Team Macromedia Volunteer for Dreamweaver Certified Dreamweaver MX Developer Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer http://www.macromedia.com/go/team ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Rich Text Editor
hmm, i had no problemswhat was yours? - Original Message - From: Scott Wilhelm [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 9:47 AM Subject: RE: Rich Text Editor I had a tough time getting that to work last night. I took their exact code, that worked, tossed it into my page, and it wouldn't work. I took 2 hours from yesterday just trying to get it to work, but couldn't :( It looks good too. Scott -Original Message- From: Ewok [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 9:43 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Rich Text Editor http://www.interactivetools.com/products/htmlarea/ free and open source :) - Original Message - From: Taz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 9:13 AM Subject: Re: Rich Text Editor Does anyone know of any free rich text editors to build into a CMS (like a WYSIWYG)? SoEditor from siteobjects.com Taz ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4