Re: SEO Tools

2006-03-02 Thread Kay Smoljak
On 3/2/06, Bobby Hartsfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Any resources as to what might incur a blacklisting?

Straight from the horse's mouth:
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RE: SEO Tools

2006-03-02 Thread Che Vilnonis
Matt, you da man. I have 2 new useful bookmarks!

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From: Matthew Blatchley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 5:02 PM
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https://adwords.google.com/select/main?cmd=KeywordSandbox

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From: Che Vilnonis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 3:58 PM
Subject: RE: SEO Tools


 Matt, that overture tool is pretty cool. Do you (or anyone) know of an
 equivalent tool from Google?

 Thanks, Ché

 -Original Message-
 From: Matthew Blatchley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 4:32 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: SEO Tools


 I use http://www.submitexpress.com/analyzer/ to do the word count etc on
 the
 pages to match up with the keywords and titles.

 And I use http://inventory.overture.com/d/searchinventory/suggestion/ to
 double check on Keyword/phrase demand to make sure the keyword I'm trying
 to
 rank is actually worth spending the time on.  This link you can also use
 in
 a custom tag like they have in some program subscriptions...I think
 wordtracker uses it.  Could be wrong though.

 This seems to work fine for most of my sites.

 Matt Blatchley
 Bridgeleaf Studios LLC
 www.bridgeleaf.com



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 What are the most common used search engine optimization tools used
 and recommendations?

 TIA!










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RE: SEO Tools

2006-03-02 Thread Rick Faircloth
No problem...glad to help.

Rick


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Re: SEO Tools

2006-03-02 Thread Matthew Blatchley
Che,

The IBP mentioned by ~Dave the disrupter~ also incorporates both of the 
links I sent out earlier in the downloaded version of their product. 
Although, it's not free to use, it does incorporate a lot of other useful 
tools.  HTML validator, auto submission etc.

Everything mentioned in this thread is also techniques that I use to 
make the site more relevant depending on which engine your targeting.  I 
wouldn't concentrate too much on the smaller ones, only go for the Google 
and Yahoo to start out.  The rest should follow suit if you get good 
rankings in these two.

The other thing I've noticed in the past is the length of the domain 
renewal has a direct effect if you purchase the domain for say ten years 
instead of renewing it every year, it will make a difference by about 4 or 5 
places in the listings (that might have changed though, but it did make a 
difference in my experience).

Also if you have multiple relevant sub-sites of your own that point back 
to the main governing site, it will build link weight and more relevancy. 
Placed inside the content of one of the subsites you could add 
keywords/phrases that are linked to other pages in the main site describing 
more information about a subject while packing in that keyword a few times. 
The other thing is to make the title of the page have the keyword and name 
of the file contain the keyword.  Relevant content is the key, not flashy 
intros and sites packed with images.

  But you need to also account for how new the subsites are and how long 
they have been around which goes back to what Josh had mentioned earlier. 
Seniority does take priority in my experience, but if you rank the site 
well, it will still take less time to get on the first page.  You might also 
want to make the additional sub-sites hosted in separate parts of the 
country, or hosted with two different providers, this way you'll have two 
different site from two sides of the country talking about the same relevant 
site and linked together by matching keywords and headers. Basically, create 
an infrastructure that makes the main site the governing body or authority 
on the subject your promoting, while still applying all the other SEO rules 
you've read about in the rest of this thread.  There is no need to fool the 
search engines if you building a huge infrastructure of sites, but it can 
cost a lot more $$ and take longer to build.  So I guess it would really 
depend on your products or services and how much your ROI is compared to the 
time and desire to rank higher.

Matt

- Original Message - 
From: Che Vilnonis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 7:41 AM
Subject: RE: SEO Tools


 Matt, you da man. I have 2 new useful bookmarks!

 -Original Message-
 From: Matthew Blatchley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 5:02 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: SEO Tools


 https://adwords.google.com/select/main?cmd=KeywordSandbox

 - Original Message -
 From: Che Vilnonis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
 Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 3:58 PM
 Subject: RE: SEO Tools


 Matt, that overture tool is pretty cool. Do you (or anyone) know of an
 equivalent tool from Google?

 Thanks, Ché

 -Original Message-
 From: Matthew Blatchley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 4:32 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: SEO Tools


 I use http://www.submitexpress.com/analyzer/ to do the word count etc on
 the
 pages to match up with the keywords and titles.

 And I use http://inventory.overture.com/d/searchinventory/suggestion/ to
 double check on Keyword/phrase demand to make sure the keyword I'm trying
 to
 rank is actually worth spending the time on.  This link you can also use
 in
 a custom tag like they have in some program subscriptions...I think
 wordtracker uses it.  Could be wrong though.

 This seems to work fine for most of my sites.

 Matt Blatchley
 Bridgeleaf Studios LLC
 www.bridgeleaf.com



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 Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 3:24 PM
 Subject: SEO Tools


 What are the most common used search engine optimization tools used
 and recommendations?

 TIA!










 

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RE: SEO Tools

2006-03-02 Thread Barthle, Robert \(Contractor\)
Has anyone used Google AdWords? I'm running a real estate website for my mother 
(shameless plug: www.bettybarthle.com) and I have to help her decide on what 
kind of a web-promotion budget she needs. Any hints or tips would be useful.

I'd like to get her highly placed in the keyword search Northern Virginia Real 
Estate as an example. 

Also does anyone know if it's worth paying the $350 to get on the Yahoo! 
directory? 




thanks 
-r 
_ 
Rob Barthle 
Contractor - Sr. Software Developer 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
202-245-6484 



-Original Message-
From: Matthew Blatchley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 9:38 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: SEO Tools


Che,

The IBP mentioned by ~Dave the disrupter~ also incorporates both of the 
links I sent out earlier in the downloaded version of their product. 
Although, it's not free to use, it does incorporate a lot of other useful 
tools.  HTML validator, auto submission etc.

Everything mentioned in this thread is also techniques that I use to 
make the site more relevant depending on which engine your targeting.  I 
wouldn't concentrate too much on the smaller ones, only go for the Google 
and Yahoo to start out.  The rest should follow suit if you get good 
rankings in these two.

The other thing I've noticed in the past is the length of the domain 
renewal has a direct effect if you purchase the domain for say ten years 
instead of renewing it every year, it will make a difference by about 4 or 5 
places in the listings (that might have changed though, but it did make a 
difference in my experience).

Also if you have multiple relevant sub-sites of your own that point back 
to the main governing site, it will build link weight and more relevancy. 
Placed inside the content of one of the subsites you could add 
keywords/phrases that are linked to other pages in the main site describing 
more information about a subject while packing in that keyword a few times. 
The other thing is to make the title of the page have the keyword and name 
of the file contain the keyword.  Relevant content is the key, not flashy 
intros and sites packed with images.

  But you need to also account for how new the subsites are and how long 
they have been around which goes back to what Josh had mentioned earlier. 
Seniority does take priority in my experience, but if you rank the site 
well, it will still take less time to get on the first page.  You might also 
want to make the additional sub-sites hosted in separate parts of the 
country, or hosted with two different providers, this way you'll have two 
different site from two sides of the country talking about the same relevant 
site and linked together by matching keywords and headers. Basically, create 
an infrastructure that makes the main site the governing body or authority 
on the subject your promoting, while still applying all the other SEO rules 
you've read about in the rest of this thread.  There is no need to fool the 
search engines if you building a huge infrastructure of sites, but it can 
cost a lot more $$ and take longer to build.  So I guess it would really 
depend on your products or services and how much your ROI is compared to the 
time and desire to rank higher.

Matt

- Original Message - 
From: Che Vilnonis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 7:41 AM
Subject: RE: SEO Tools


 Matt, you da man. I have 2 new useful bookmarks!

 -Original Message-
 From: Matthew Blatchley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 5:02 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: SEO Tools


 https://adwords.google.com/select/main?cmd=KeywordSandbox

 - Original Message -
 From: Che Vilnonis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
 Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 3:58 PM
 Subject: RE: SEO Tools


 Matt, that overture tool is pretty cool. Do you (or anyone) know of an
 equivalent tool from Google?

 Thanks, Ché

 -Original Message-
 From: Matthew Blatchley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 4:32 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: SEO Tools


 I use http://www.submitexpress.com/analyzer/ to do the word count etc on
 the
 pages to match up with the keywords and titles.

 And I use http://inventory.overture.com/d/searchinventory/suggestion/ to
 double check on Keyword/phrase demand to make sure the keyword I'm trying
 to
 rank is actually worth spending the time on.  This link you can also use
 in
 a custom tag like they have in some program subscriptions...I think
 wordtracker uses it.  Could be wrong though.

 This seems to work fine for most of my sites.

 Matt Blatchley
 Bridgeleaf Studios LLC
 www.bridgeleaf.com



 - Original Message -
 From: Adkins, Randy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
 Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 3:24 PM
 Subject: SEO Tools


 What are the most common used search engine

RE: SEO Tools

2006-03-02 Thread Barthle, Robert \(Contractor\)
Has anyone used Google AdWords? I'm running a real estate website for my mother 
(shameless plug: www.bettybarthle.com) and I have to help her decide on what 
kind of a web-promotion budget she needs. Any hints or tips would be useful. 
This was one of the areas I was looking at.

I looked up some SEO's and they wanted $3k a year for their services. After 
reading all this, it sounds like I'm better off doing it on my own. Just got to 
do it smartly.

I'd like to get her highly placed in the keyword search Northern Virginia Real 
Estate as an example. 

Also does anyone know if it's worth paying the $350 to get on the Yahoo! 
directory? 


thanks 
-r 
_ 
Rob Barthle 
Contractor - Sr. Software Developer 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
202-245-6484 

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RE: SEO Tools

2006-03-02 Thread Russ
I've used adwords, and I got to say it's worth it.  Much better then
overture.  I made money on a consistent basis with adwords, and only lost
money so far everytime I tried overture.  

Just my $0.02

 -Original Message-
 From: Barthle, Robert (Contractor) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 9:56 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: SEO Tools
 
 Has anyone used Google AdWords? I'm running a real estate website for my
 mother (shameless plug: www.bettybarthle.com) and I have to help her
 decide on what kind of a web-promotion budget she needs. Any hints or tips
 would be useful. This was one of the areas I was looking at.
 
 I looked up some SEO's and they wanted $3k a year for their services.
 After reading all this, it sounds like I'm better off doing it on my own.
 Just got to do it smartly.
 
 I'd like to get her highly placed in the keyword search Northern Virginia
 Real Estate as an example.
 
 Also does anyone know if it's worth paying the $350 to get on the Yahoo!
 directory?
 
 
 thanks
 -r
 _
 Rob Barthle
 Contractor - Sr. Software Developer
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 202-245-6484
 
 

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RE: SEO Tools

2006-03-02 Thread Che Vilnonis
Russ, I agree. adwords is the way to go. Overture's ROI pales in comparison.
Yahoo Shopping is pretty good as well (and somewhat popular). I wish they
had a feature to limit the $$$ spent per day though.

~Ché

-Original Message-
From: Russ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 10:06 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: SEO Tools


I've used adwords, and I got to say it's worth it.  Much better then
overture.  I made money on a consistent basis with adwords, and only lost
money so far everytime I tried overture.

Just my $0.02

 -Original Message-
 From: Barthle, Robert (Contractor) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 9:56 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: SEO Tools

 Has anyone used Google AdWords? I'm running a real estate website for my
 mother (shameless plug: www.bettybarthle.com) and I have to help her
 decide on what kind of a web-promotion budget she needs. Any hints or tips
 would be useful. This was one of the areas I was looking at.

 I looked up some SEO's and they wanted $3k a year for their services.
 After reading all this, it sounds like I'm better off doing it on my own.
 Just got to do it smartly.

 I'd like to get her highly placed in the keyword search Northern Virginia
 Real Estate as an example.

 Also does anyone know if it's worth paying the $350 to get on the Yahoo!
 directory?


 thanks
 -r
 _
 Rob Barthle
 Contractor - Sr. Software Developer
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 202-245-6484





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RE: SEO Tools

2006-03-02 Thread Russ
What is yahoo shopping?

 -Original Message-
 From: Che Vilnonis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 10:11 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: SEO Tools
 
 Russ, I agree. adwords is the way to go. Overture's ROI pales in
 comparison.
 Yahoo Shopping is pretty good as well (and somewhat popular). I wish they
 had a feature to limit the $$$ spent per day though.
 
 ~Ché
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Russ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 10:06 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: SEO Tools
 
 
 I've used adwords, and I got to say it's worth it.  Much better then
 overture.  I made money on a consistent basis with adwords, and only lost
 money so far everytime I tried overture.
 
 Just my $0.02
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Barthle, Robert (Contractor) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 9:56 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: RE: SEO Tools
 
  Has anyone used Google AdWords? I'm running a real estate website for my
  mother (shameless plug: www.bettybarthle.com) and I have to help her
  decide on what kind of a web-promotion budget she needs. Any hints or
 tips
  would be useful. This was one of the areas I was looking at.
 
  I looked up some SEO's and they wanted $3k a year for their services.
  After reading all this, it sounds like I'm better off doing it on my
 own.
  Just got to do it smartly.
 
  I'd like to get her highly placed in the keyword search Northern
 Virginia
  Real Estate as an example.
 
  Also does anyone know if it's worth paying the $350 to get on the Yahoo!
  directory?
 
 
  thanks
  -r
  _
  Rob Barthle
  Contractor - Sr. Software Developer
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  202-245-6484
 
 
 
 
 
 

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RE: SEO Tools

2006-03-02 Thread Che Vilnonis
If you sell products, its a marketplace that can be used to search for them.
Yahoo Shopping has been around for a long time and is very similar to
Froogle. You can upload a product database and populate your Yahoo Shopping
account with all of your online products for customers to shop for, compare,
etc.

http://shopping.yahoo.com

~Ché

-Original Message-
From: Russ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 10:14 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: SEO Tools


What is yahoo shopping?

 -Original Message-
 From: Che Vilnonis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 10:11 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: SEO Tools

 Russ, I agree. adwords is the way to go. Overture's ROI pales in
 comparison.
 Yahoo Shopping is pretty good as well (and somewhat popular). I wish they
 had a feature to limit the $$$ spent per day though.

 ~Ché

 -Original Message-
 From: Russ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 10:06 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: SEO Tools


 I've used adwords, and I got to say it's worth it.  Much better then
 overture.  I made money on a consistent basis with adwords, and only lost
 money so far everytime I tried overture.

 Just my $0.02

  -Original Message-
  From: Barthle, Robert (Contractor) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 9:56 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: RE: SEO Tools
 
  Has anyone used Google AdWords? I'm running a real estate website for my
  mother (shameless plug: www.bettybarthle.com) and I have to help her
  decide on what kind of a web-promotion budget she needs. Any hints or
 tips
  would be useful. This was one of the areas I was looking at.
 
  I looked up some SEO's and they wanted $3k a year for their services.
  After reading all this, it sounds like I'm better off doing it on my
 own.
  Just got to do it smartly.
 
  I'd like to get her highly placed in the keyword search Northern
 Virginia
  Real Estate as an example.
 
  Also does anyone know if it's worth paying the $350 to get on the Yahoo!
  directory?
 
 
  thanks
  -r
  _
  Rob Barthle
  Contractor - Sr. Software Developer
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  202-245-6484
 
 







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Re: SEO Tools

2006-03-02 Thread Matthew Blatchley
If you take your listing page and make links to an additional detail page 
with only one description at a time, you could target a single set of 
keywords and make each paragraph more relevant to a specific phrase within 
the content.  Right now you've got it linking to a PDF, which also helps, 
but you could take it one step further for each listing and send the user to 
another detail page with a more expanded view of each property.  Then your 
detail pages would rank individually as well as your home page and listing 
page making the site bigger..






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RE: SEO Tools

2006-03-02 Thread Jennifer Gavin-Wear
Hi Randy,

www.webceo.com
There is a free version - if you are serious about SEO it's worth paying out
for the fully featured versions, but even the free version will set you in
the right direction.

http://www.goodkeywords.com/
A freebie, this is good for keyword research.  Also has some page analysis
tools which are useful.

I tried IBP, wasn't impressed, and I've tried pretty much everything out
there, most of which is crap.

www.seoelite.com
SEO Elite is worth a look, but the interface is horrible.

Personally I wouldn't bother with link build campaigns as the SE's are
dropping the relevance of it, due to the cheating that's been going on - and
the emergence of crappy link farm sites purely to drive adsense.

Hope this helps,

Jenny


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What are the most common used search engine optimization tools used
and recommendations?

TIA!




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Re: SEO Tools

2006-03-01 Thread Bryan Stevenson
cf_open_can_o_worms
   What are the most common used search engine optimization tools used
   and recommendations?
  
   TIA!
/cf_open_can_o_worms

Can you be more specific Andy?  Strictly for page optimization for indexing, or 
the whole other ball game where there are tools for not only assessing your 
pages, but help to find the right keywords for your files, find directories you 
can have a link to your site added to, search for reciprical linking partners 
with specific Google Page ranks for specific key phrases...and so on ;-)

Cheers

Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
VP  Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
phone: 250.480.0642
fax: 250.480.1264
cell: 250.920.8830
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Re: SEO Tools

2006-03-01 Thread Matthew Blatchley
I use http://www.submitexpress.com/analyzer/ to do the word count etc on the 
pages to match up with the keywords and titles.

And I use http://inventory.overture.com/d/searchinventory/suggestion/ to 
double check on Keyword/phrase demand to make sure the keyword I'm trying to 
rank is actually worth spending the time on.  This link you can also use in 
a custom tag like they have in some program subscriptions...I think 
wordtracker uses it.  Could be wrong though.

This seems to work fine for most of my sites.

Matt Blatchley
Bridgeleaf Studios LLC
www.bridgeleaf.com



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RE: SEO Tools

2006-03-01 Thread Adkins, Randy
Actually it is Randy, not Andy :-)

But my apologies, should be specific

I am looking for increasing the rankings within search engines.
So keyword optimization is my first thought. However I would assume
That the complete ball of wax is what I am seeking
 

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cf_open_can_o_worms
   What are the most common used search engine optimization tools used
   and recommendations?
  
   TIA!
/cf_open_can_o_worms

Can you be more specific Andy?  Strictly for page optimization for
indexing, or the whole other ball game where there are tools for not
only assessing your pages, but help to find the right keywords for your
files, find directories you can have a link to your site added to,
search for reciprical linking partners with specific Google Page ranks
for specific key phrases...and so on ;-)

Cheers

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re: SEO Tools

2006-03-01 Thread dave
IBP = internet business promotor seems to be what everyone uses.

Personally, I think it would be good to have a seo list on here.

Btw~ google has been a bit weird lately, I watch 1 site everyday and during 
parts of the day is 1 page other parts of the days it's 2nd page, been over 2 
weeks now and it does it everyday.

~Dave the disruptor~ 


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RE: SEO Tools

2006-03-01 Thread Che Vilnonis
Matt, that overture tool is pretty cool. Do you (or anyone) know of an
equivalent tool from Google?

Thanks, Ché

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I use http://www.submitexpress.com/analyzer/ to do the word count etc on the
pages to match up with the keywords and titles.

And I use http://inventory.overture.com/d/searchinventory/suggestion/ to
double check on Keyword/phrase demand to make sure the keyword I'm trying to
rank is actually worth spending the time on.  This link you can also use in
a custom tag like they have in some program subscriptions...I think
wordtracker uses it.  Could be wrong though.

This seems to work fine for most of my sites.

Matt Blatchley
Bridgeleaf Studios LLC
www.bridgeleaf.com



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RE: SEO Tools

2006-03-01 Thread Adkins, Randy
Anyone used Traffic Blazer from GoDaddy?
I recall seeing it but have not really did any reading up on it yet 

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Matt, that overture tool is pretty cool. Do you (or anyone) know of an 
equivalent tool from Google?

Thanks, Ché

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Subject: Re: SEO Tools


I use http://www.submitexpress.com/analyzer/ to do the word count etc on the 
pages to match up with the keywords and titles.

And I use http://inventory.overture.com/d/searchinventory/suggestion/ to double 
check on Keyword/phrase demand to make sure the keyword I'm trying to rank is 
actually worth spending the time on.  This link you can also use in a custom 
tag like they have in some program subscriptions...I think wordtracker uses it. 
 Could be wrong though.

This seems to work fine for most of my sites.

Matt Blatchley
Bridgeleaf Studios LLC
www.bridgeleaf.com



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Re: SEO Tools

2006-03-01 Thread Matthew Blatchley
https://adwords.google.com/select/main?cmd=KeywordSandbox

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 Matt, that overture tool is pretty cool. Do you (or anyone) know of an
 equivalent tool from Google?

 Thanks, Ché

 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 4:32 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: SEO Tools


 I use http://www.submitexpress.com/analyzer/ to do the word count etc on 
 the
 pages to match up with the keywords and titles.

 And I use http://inventory.overture.com/d/searchinventory/suggestion/ to
 double check on Keyword/phrase demand to make sure the keyword I'm trying 
 to
 rank is actually worth spending the time on.  This link you can also use 
 in
 a custom tag like they have in some program subscriptions...I think
 wordtracker uses it.  Could be wrong though.

 This seems to work fine for most of my sites.

 Matt Blatchley
 Bridgeleaf Studios LLC
 www.bridgeleaf.com



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Re: SEO Tools

2006-03-01 Thread Bryan Stevenson
 Actually it is Randy, not Andy :-)

 But my apologies, should be specific

 I am looking for increasing the rankings within search engines.
 So keyword optimization is my first thought. However I would assume
 That the complete ball of wax is what I am seeking


Oops...and I checked your name before postingDOH!

Yes...certianly start with a properly constructed site (keywords, usage of bold 
and H1,H2, etc tags, no image based links, no dynamic links)then move on to 
who links to you and if your site has content in the correct context as your 
keywords etc would elude to.

To look at finding was of adding inbound links from sites with certain Google 
page ranks etc, you can look at PR Prowler or the suite of OptiTools (these 
refereneces are a bit outdated as I haven't done this in a whilebut god 
places to start).

Be prepared...it's a big scary SEO world out there (thankfully I write a lot of 
internal biz systems) ;-)

Cheers

Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
VP  Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
phone: 250.480.0642
fax: 250.480.1264
cell: 250.920.8830
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
web: www.electricedgesystems.com 


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RE: SEO Tools

2006-03-01 Thread Adkins, Randy
Thanks!!  Yea it is a scary place but as they say, someone has to do it
 

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From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 5:11 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: SEO Tools

 Actually it is Randy, not Andy :-)

 But my apologies, should be specific

 I am looking for increasing the rankings within search engines.
 So keyword optimization is my first thought. However I would assume 
 That the complete ball of wax is what I am seeking


Oops...and I checked your name before postingDOH!

Yes...certianly start with a properly constructed site (keywords, usage
of bold and H1,H2, etc tags, no image based links, no dynamic
links)then move on to who links to you and if your site has content
in the correct context as your keywords etc would elude to.

To look at finding was of adding inbound links from sites with certain
Google page ranks etc, you can look at PR Prowler or the suite of
OptiTools (these refereneces are a bit outdated as I haven't done this
in a whilebut god places to start).

Be prepared...it's a big scary SEO world out there (thankfully I write a
lot of internal biz systems) ;-)

Cheers

Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
VP  Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
phone: 250.480.0642
fax: 250.480.1264
cell: 250.920.8830
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE: SEO Tools

2006-03-01 Thread Russ
One interesting thing is that google seems to ban people for cheating on
SEO.  We have a client who hired an SEO expert, and now their site doesn't
appear at all on google.  So be wary. 

Russ

 -Original Message-
 From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 5:11 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: SEO Tools
 
  Actually it is Randy, not Andy :-)
 
  But my apologies, should be specific
 
  I am looking for increasing the rankings within search engines.
  So keyword optimization is my first thought. However I would assume
  That the complete ball of wax is what I am seeking
 
 
 Oops...and I checked your name before postingDOH!
 
 Yes...certianly start with a properly constructed site (keywords, usage of
 bold
 and H1,H2, etc tags, no image based links, no dynamic links)then move
 on to
 who links to you and if your site has content in the correct context as
 your
 keywords etc would elude to.
 
 To look at finding was of adding inbound links from sites with certain
 Google
 page ranks etc, you can look at PR Prowler or the suite of OptiTools
 (these
 refereneces are a bit outdated as I haven't done this in a whilebut
 god
 places to start).
 
 Be prepared...it's a big scary SEO world out there (thankfully I write a
 lot of
 internal biz systems) ;-)
 
 Cheers
 
 Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
 VP  Director of E-Commerce Development
 Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
 phone: 250.480.0642
 fax: 250.480.1264
 cell: 250.920.8830
 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 web: www.electricedgesystems.com
 
 
 

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Re: SEO Tools

2006-03-01 Thread Bryan Stevenson
 One interesting thing is that google seems to ban people for cheating on
 SEO.  We have a client who hired an SEO expert, and now their site doesn't
 appear at all on google.  So be wary.

 Russ

YesSEO firms routinely try and have their competitiors blacklisted...a 
truly 
ugly industry at times.

That said, even a blacklisted site can return to the land of the living after a 
certain amount of time (and if the issue that got them spanked has been 
resolved).

Cheers

Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
VP  Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
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fax: 250.480.1264
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Re: SEO Tools

2006-03-01 Thread Josh Nathanson
Yes, Google has a huge incentive to keep their search results cheater free 
and a lot of $$ resources to accomplish that.  I heard recently that they 
are now checking for link swaps, so even doing a link exchange may not help 
increase page ranking.  The best you can do is use h1 h2 tags, links with 
keywords in the anchor text, and keyword rich text in the body of the page, 
as high up as possible (the fewer table tags the better.)

Maybe someone can add more but I think seniority is playing a huge part now, 
in other words the longer your site has been indexed the better off you are. 
So newer sites are at a distinct disadvantage, as they will have fewer 
legitimate inbound links.

Sadly Google also has incentive to keep newer sites out of the top pages, as 
that forces site owners to use the paid Google AdWords service if they hope 
to get any clicks.

SEO firms are becoming the equivalent of snake oil salesmen in my mind, but 
many people have no idea how things work so the SEO firms will continue to 
do well.

-- Josh



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Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 2:15 PM
Subject: RE: SEO Tools


 One interesting thing is that google seems to ban people for cheating on
 SEO.  We have a client who hired an SEO expert, and now their site doesn't
 appear at all on google.  So be wary.

 Russ

 -Original Message-
 From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 5:11 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: SEO Tools

  Actually it is Randy, not Andy :-)
 
  But my apologies, should be specific
 
  I am looking for increasing the rankings within search engines.
  So keyword optimization is my first thought. However I would assume
  That the complete ball of wax is what I am seeking
 

 Oops...and I checked your name before postingDOH!

 Yes...certianly start with a properly constructed site (keywords, usage 
 of
 bold
 and H1,H2, etc tags, no image based links, no dynamic links)then move
 on to
 who links to you and if your site has content in the correct context as
 your
 keywords etc would elude to.

 To look at finding was of adding inbound links from sites with certain
 Google
 page ranks etc, you can look at PR Prowler or the suite of OptiTools
 (these
 refereneces are a bit outdated as I haven't done this in a whilebut
 god
 places to start).

 Be prepared...it's a big scary SEO world out there (thankfully I write a
 lot of
 internal biz systems) ;-)

 Cheers

 Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
 VP  Director of E-Commerce Development
 Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
 phone: 250.480.0642
 fax: 250.480.1264
 cell: 250.920.8830
 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 web: www.electricedgesystems.com




 

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RE: SEO Tools

2006-03-01 Thread Bobby Hartsfield
Any resources as to what might incur a blacklisting? 

..:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.
Bobby Hartsfield
http://acoderslife.com

 

 


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From: Josh Nathanson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 5:35 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: SEO Tools

Yes, Google has a huge incentive to keep their search results cheater free

and a lot of $$ resources to accomplish that.  I heard recently that they 
are now checking for link swaps, so even doing a link exchange may not help 
increase page ranking.  The best you can do is use h1 h2 tags, links with 
keywords in the anchor text, and keyword rich text in the body of the page, 
as high up as possible (the fewer table tags the better.)

Maybe someone can add more but I think seniority is playing a huge part now,

in other words the longer your site has been indexed the better off you are.

So newer sites are at a distinct disadvantage, as they will have fewer 
legitimate inbound links.

Sadly Google also has incentive to keep newer sites out of the top pages, as

that forces site owners to use the paid Google AdWords service if they hope 
to get any clicks.

SEO firms are becoming the equivalent of snake oil salesmen in my mind, but 
many people have no idea how things work so the SEO firms will continue to 
do well.

-- Josh



- Original Message - 
From: Russ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 2:15 PM
Subject: RE: SEO Tools


 One interesting thing is that google seems to ban people for cheating on
 SEO.  We have a client who hired an SEO expert, and now their site doesn't
 appear at all on google.  So be wary.

 Russ

 -Original Message-
 From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 5:11 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: SEO Tools

  Actually it is Randy, not Andy :-)
 
  But my apologies, should be specific
 
  I am looking for increasing the rankings within search engines.
  So keyword optimization is my first thought. However I would assume
  That the complete ball of wax is what I am seeking
 

 Oops...and I checked your name before postingDOH!

 Yes...certianly start with a properly constructed site (keywords, usage 
 of
 bold
 and H1,H2, etc tags, no image based links, no dynamic links)then move
 on to
 who links to you and if your site has content in the correct context as
 your
 keywords etc would elude to.

 To look at finding was of adding inbound links from sites with certain
 Google
 page ranks etc, you can look at PR Prowler or the suite of OptiTools
 (these
 refereneces are a bit outdated as I haven't done this in a whilebut
 god
 places to start).

 Be prepared...it's a big scary SEO world out there (thankfully I write a
 lot of
 internal biz systems) ;-)

 Cheers

 Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
 VP  Director of E-Commerce Development
 Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
 phone: 250.480.0642
 fax: 250.480.1264
 cell: 250.920.8830
 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 web: www.electricedgesystems.com




 



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Re: SEO Tools

2006-03-01 Thread Bryan Stevenson
Nobut a bunch of text the same colour as the background of the page is a 
good example

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To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 3:58 PM
Subject: RE: SEO Tools


 Any resources as to what might incur a blacklisting?

 ..:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.
 Bobby Hartsfield
 http://acoderslife.com






 -Original Message-
 From: Josh Nathanson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 5:35 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: SEO Tools

 Yes, Google has a huge incentive to keep their search results cheater free

 and a lot of $$ resources to accomplish that.  I heard recently that they
 are now checking for link swaps, so even doing a link exchange may not help
 increase page ranking.  The best you can do is use h1 h2 tags, links with
 keywords in the anchor text, and keyword rich text in the body of the page,
 as high up as possible (the fewer table tags the better.)

 Maybe someone can add more but I think seniority is playing a huge part now,

 in other words the longer your site has been indexed the better off you are.

 So newer sites are at a distinct disadvantage, as they will have fewer
 legitimate inbound links.

 Sadly Google also has incentive to keep newer sites out of the top pages, as

 that forces site owners to use the paid Google AdWords service if they hope
 to get any clicks.

 SEO firms are becoming the equivalent of snake oil salesmen in my mind, but
 many people have no idea how things work so the SEO firms will continue to
 do well.

 -- Josh



 - Original Message - 
 From: Russ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
 Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 2:15 PM
 Subject: RE: SEO Tools


 One interesting thing is that google seems to ban people for cheating on
 SEO.  We have a client who hired an SEO expert, and now their site doesn't
 appear at all on google.  So be wary.

 Russ

 -Original Message-
 From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 5:11 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: SEO Tools

  Actually it is Randy, not Andy :-)
 
  But my apologies, should be specific
 
  I am looking for increasing the rankings within search engines.
  So keyword optimization is my first thought. However I would assume
  That the complete ball of wax is what I am seeking
 

 Oops...and I checked your name before postingDOH!

 Yes...certianly start with a properly constructed site (keywords, usage
 of
 bold
 and H1,H2, etc tags, no image based links, no dynamic links)then move
 on to
 who links to you and if your site has content in the correct context as
 your
 keywords etc would elude to.

 To look at finding was of adding inbound links from sites with certain
 Google
 page ranks etc, you can look at PR Prowler or the suite of OptiTools
 (these
 refereneces are a bit outdated as I haven't done this in a whilebut
 god
 places to start).

 Be prepared...it's a big scary SEO world out there (thankfully I write a
 lot of
 internal biz systems) ;-)

 Cheers

 Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
 VP  Director of E-Commerce Development
 Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
 phone: 250.480.0642
 fax: 250.480.1264
 cell: 250.920.8830
 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 web: www.electricedgesystems.com








 

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Re: SEO Tools

2006-03-01 Thread Will Tomlinson
Heck, I'm having problems with Google showing old, outdated information about 
my client's site. We changed the domain name, revamped the site, which improved 
rankings. Then google went back to showing the old site. It bounces back and 
forth from week to week. 

If someone built a google that actually showed fresh content, they'd make a 
mint.  

Will

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Re: SEO Tools

2006-03-01 Thread Will Tomlinson
One more thing...

Me and my client worked hard to add incoming links since that's so important to 
google. We probably have about 10-15 content-relevant links. But NONE show up! 
It's been a few months and google still shows 0 links pointing to our site. 

Will 

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RE: SEO Tools

2006-03-01 Thread Rick Faircloth
Here's a little short list of tips from a respected name
in the SEO/SEM business...check this out and it should
provide a good starting point...

Rick

http://www.seomoz.org/2006/seomoz-cheatsheet.swf



 -Original Message-
 From: Will Tomlinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 9:10 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: SEO Tools
 
 
 One more thing...
 
 Me and my client worked hard to add incoming links since that's 
 so important to google. We probably have about 10-15 
 content-relevant links. But NONE show up! It's been a few months 
 and google still shows 0 links pointing to our site. 
 
 Will 
 
 

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RE: SEO Tools

2006-03-01 Thread Bobby Hartsfield
Yeah, as opposed to the measly amount the pull down as it is now ;-)

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Bobby Hartsfield
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-Original Message-
From: Will Tomlinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 9:08 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: SEO Tools

Heck, I'm having problems with Google showing old, outdated information
about my client's site. We changed the domain name, revamped the site, which
improved rankings. Then google went back to showing the old site. It bounces
back and forth from week to week. 

If someone built a google that actually showed fresh content, they'd make a
mint.  

Will



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RE: SEO Tools

2006-03-01 Thread Bobby Hartsfield
Thanks Rick! I'll go check it out.

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-Original Message-
From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 10:29 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: SEO Tools

Here's a little short list of tips from a respected name
in the SEO/SEM business...check this out and it should
provide a good starting point...

Rick

http://www.seomoz.org/2006/seomoz-cheatsheet.swf



 -Original Message-
 From: Will Tomlinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 9:10 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: SEO Tools
 
 
 One more thing...
 
 Me and my client worked hard to add incoming links since that's 
 so important to google. We probably have about 10-15 
 content-relevant links. But NONE show up! It's been a few months 
 and google still shows 0 links pointing to our site. 
 
 Will 
 
 



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