RE: TO ALL: Request for ColdFusion SP2 Input

2000-10-13 Thread Peter Theobald

Ah! CFHTTP queries! A big item for my personal the wish list:

CFHTTP has the useful ability to take data from a URL and turn it into a query that 
you can then manipulate as any query.

1) CFHTTP interprets the data as a comma separated list (CSV) to turn it into a query. 
*BUT* it does NOT correctly interpret Microsoft Excel's "format" of CSV files, which 
in my experience is the source of 100% of the CSV files I use. This makes CFHTTP 
useless for reading Excel CSV files :-( . 
Specifically, Excel does NOT put quotes around fields without commas, Excel DOES put 
quotes around fields with embedded commas (to protect them from being interpreted as 
field separators). CFHTTP will choke on this format. Either ALL of the fields must 
have quotes or NONE of them (CF V4.5.1)


2) I often need to allow users to upload a file and interpret it as a query. Ie: my 
users keep administrative data in spreadsheets and upload it to make bulk changes to 
the database. I *rarely* need to make a query out of a URL on another site. However 
this query functionality is built into CFHTTP only. So I have to upload the file to a 
web-accessible place (being careful with naming so multiple users don't clobber each 
other) and then in a second step retrieve it from my own web site with CFHTTP. These 
two steps shouldn't be needed. I'd like CFFILE or some other function to be able to 
make a query directly out of a file!





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RE: TO ALL: Request for ColdFusion SP2 Input

2000-10-05 Thread Peter Theobald

Here's one:

I'd like positional parameters to modules. It would make calling a module so much more 
concise. And I'd like that to extend to CF's built in tags too. For example:

cfinclude "mytag.cfm"  instead of cfinclude template="mytag.cfm"
cfparam "action", "display" instead of cfparam name="action" default="display"

It could be easily implemented by passing an "attributes" array with the values in the 
order they were passed. It would be helpful to have a helper tag to use in the module 
to bind them to variables like so:
cfattributes "firstvarname", "secondvarname", "thirdvarname", "fourthvarname"
-or-
cfattributes "firstvarname,secondvarname,thirdvarname,fourthvarname"

This would be used to match up arguments by position. Of course they could still be 
specified the old way by name as well.


And while we're at it, I often have dozens of one variable outputs that are made too 
wordy by the syntax: cfoutput#var#/cfoutput. I'd like to see an alternate syntax: 
cfoutput value="#var#" or even better using position parameters: cfoutput "#var#"

Of course this could be written as a custom tag:
cfmyoutput value="#var#"

cfoutput#evaluate(attributes.value)#/cfoutput

But the point it to have dozens of these in a page, and that would slow it down too 
much.


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RE: TO ALL: Request for ColdFusion SP2 Input

2000-10-05 Thread Zachary Bedell

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 Here's one:
 
 I'd like positional parameters to modules. It would make 
 calling a module so much more concise. And I'd like that to 
 extend to CF's built in tags too. For example:
 
 cfinclude "mytag.cfm"  instead of cfinclude
 template="mytag.cfm" 
 And while we're at it, I often have dozens of one variable 
 outputs that are made too wordy by the syntax: 
 cfoutput#var#/cfoutput. I'd like to see an alternate 


That sounds like a nifty idea, but I suspect it would be rather
unpleasant to implement and somewhat confusing to call (just what
order SHOULD the params be passed in?).

Perhaps an alternate method to get essentially the same functionality
would be to expose ALL of the functionality currently handled by tags
as functions.  That would make Cfscript blocks far more powerful as
well.

And while we're talking about Cfoutput...  How about just aliasing
cfoutput and /cfoutput to ? and ? respectively.  Sure it looks
like PHP, but it's easier to deal with...

Not that I would expect any of *that* to happen in a service pack
release.  They're features I'd like to have (especially the
functionalized tags), but I'd rather the coders concentrate on
squishing the bugs in SP2 rather than adding tons of new features...

Regards,
Zac Bedell


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RE: TO ALL: Request for ColdFusion SP2 Input

2000-10-02 Thread Dave Watts

 i know one of the items that makes me very uncomfortable is 
 the apparent code incompatibility on the locking issues. i.e. 
 code written for CF server 4.5.1 locking doesn't easily work 
 on 4.0 and vice versa..

This isn't really the case. Code using CFLOCK under CF 4.0.1 will work on a
4.5.1 server. Code using the SCOPE attribute of CFLOCK under 4.5.1 won't
work in 4.0.1, since 4.0.1 doesn't have a SCOPE attribute, but that kind of
thing happens anytime you use the latest features of the language.

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RE: TO ALL: Request for ColdFusion SP2 Input

2000-09-30 Thread James Sleeman

---Reply to mail from Steve Martin about TO ALL: Request for ColdFusion SP2 Input

 You may be aware that when calling custom tags, either using the "CF_"
 syntax, or using "CFMODULE", you can pass a special attribute called
 "ATTRIBUTECOLLECTION", which is a struct of attributes. We use it quite a
 lot when using optional parameters, as it allows a collection of parameters
 to be created, and then sent "en masse" to a module, e.g.
 
 The change has come in how repeated variables are treated, e.g.
 cf_SomeTag attributecollection=#MyAttributeStruct# X="Goodbye"
 
 Here X is specified twice, once in the attributecollection, once as a normal
 parameter.
 
 The problem (for me at least, moving code from 4.01 to 4.5) is that in 4.01
 the "normal" parameter has precedence, whereas in 4.5 the "struct" parameter
 has precedence, resulting in:
 
 4.01  cf_SomeTag X="Goodbye" Y="World"
 4.5   cf_SomeTag X="Hello" Y="World"
 
 Was there a reason for the initial change and if so, why was it done and why
 wasn't it documented? If not, can we have the original behaviour back
 please?  :-)

Are you sure of this ?  I use repeating variables like this all the time
(CF 4.5) to over-ride same named variables in an ATTRIBUTECOLLECTION
structure (generally fuseaction) ??

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Re: TO ALL: Request for ColdFusion SP2 Input

2000-09-29 Thread Brian L. Wolfsohn

At 08:50 AM 9/27/00 , you wrote:

ColdFusion Service Pack 2 is under construction, and I'd like to get your
feedback on what you believe to be Must-Be-Fixed items.

i know one of the items that makes me very uncomfortable is the apparent 
code incompatibility on the locking issues. i.e. code written for CF server 
4.5.1 locking doesn't easily work on 4.0 and vice versa..


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RE: TO ALL: Request for ColdFusion SP2 Input

2000-09-29 Thread Steve Bernard

To some this may seem trivial but, the PDF documentation HAS to get fixed.
For many this is the only documentation that they have for 4.5.x and quite
frankly, it sucks. It's not the content, it's the usability. In earlier
versions, especially the 4.0.x series, the included and downloadable PDF
documentation was thorough and well built. There were bookmarks, thumbnails,
and the links all worked. Starting with CFAS 4.5 the PDF's have none of
these, which makes them almost useless. "Hmmm, was CFREGISTRY on page 171 or
117? What page number is the end of tags and the beginning of functions? Why
don't these darn bookmarks work!?" You get the picture. Not everyone uses
Studio and many CF servers have the HTML documentation removed. If PDF was
only supposed to be a supplement my opinion would be different but, for
upgraders, purchasers of electronic distributions, or those who do not use
Studio the PDF docs are all that they have. Unfortunately, Allaire's
documentation has always had problems, whether it be incompleteness,
inaccuracy, lateness, or terrible physical quality. The documentation group,
Margaret et al., made great strides in the 4.0.x series but, things seem to
be crumbling again.

Regards,

*

Steve Bernard


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RE: TO ALL: Request for ColdFusion SP2 Input

2000-09-29 Thread Steve Bernard

To some this may seem trivial but, the PDF documentation HAS to get fixed.
For many this is the only documentation that they have for 4.5.x and quite
frankly, it sucks. It's not the content, it's the usability. In earlier
versions, especially the 4.0.x series, the included and downloadable PDF
documentation was thorough and well built. There were bookmarks, thumbnails,
and the links all worked. Starting with CFAS 4.5 the PDF's have none of
these, which makes them almost useless. "Hmmm, was CFREGISTRY on page 171 or
117? What page number is the end of tags and the beginning of functions? Why
don't these darn bookmarks work!?" You get the picture. Not everyone uses
Studio and many CF servers have the HTML documentation removed. If PDF was
only supposed to be a supplement my opinion would be different but, for
upgraders, purchasers of electronic distributions, or those who do not use
Studio the PDF docs are all that they have. Unfortunately, Allaire's
documentation has always had problems, whether it be incompleteness,
inaccuracy, lateness, or terrible physical quality. The documentation group,
Margaret et al., made great strides in the 4.0.x series but, things seem to
be crumbling again.

Regards,

*

Steve Bernard


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RE: TO ALL: Request for ColdFusion SP2 Input

2000-09-29 Thread Robert Everland III

I gave up on this dream months ago. I now exclusively use the online
documentation. Someone else has made a new version of this just don't expect
allaire to do anything about it. I mentioned it to Ben Freuh when he was in
town and I have heard nor seen anything come of it, why should allaire have
to appease thier customers anyways.

Bob Everland

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Sent: Friday, September 29, 2000 11:53 AM
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To some this may seem trivial but, the PDF documentation HAS to get fixed.
For many this is the only documentation that they have for 4.5.x and quite
frankly, it sucks. It's not the content, it's the usability. In earlier
versions, especially the 4.0.x series, the included and downloadable PDF
documentation was thorough and well built. There were bookmarks, thumbnails,
and the links all worked. Starting with CFAS 4.5 the PDF's have none of
these, which makes them almost useless. "Hmmm, was CFREGISTRY on page 171 or
117? What page number is the end of tags and the beginning of functions? Why
don't these darn bookmarks work!?" You get the picture. Not everyone uses
Studio and many CF servers have the HTML documentation removed. If PDF was
only supposed to be a supplement my opinion would be different but, for
upgraders, purchasers of electronic distributions, or those who do not use
Studio the PDF docs are all that they have. Unfortunately, Allaire's
documentation has always had problems, whether it be incompleteness,
inaccuracy, lateness, or terrible physical quality. The documentation group,
Margaret et al., made great strides in the 4.0.x series but, things seem to
be crumbling again.

Regards,

*

Steve Bernard



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RE: TO ALL: Request for ColdFusion SP2 Input

2000-09-29 Thread Peter Theobald

I'll second that!

Since we're on the documentation here are some gripes of my own:

Why don't the hard copy docs have the TAG NAMES or FUNCTION NAMES printed at the 
header or footers or at the top of each page? It's terribly inconvenient to find 
anything. If you flip through the book 75% of the time you have no idea where you are 
without reading the text. Just the simple addition of names at the top of each page 
would make finding things so much faster.

Why are there so many useless descriptions of tags and functions with such 
illuminating explanations as: Value=value.
The reference manual is NOT a reference manual. A reference manual is supposed to be a 
comprehensive definition of the language. This leaves SO MUCH unsaid that I have to 
search between all three Allaire books, two Ben Forta books, the Danesh book, and the 
online Knowledge Base to find answers to simple questions. To pick one at random: 
REFind. No list of what RegEx expressions are valid. So I turn to my Perl docs. There 
it is in complete detail... but sorry they are not compatible... So where *DO* I 
finally find the list? In a knowledge base article about HomeSite.

One of the reasons I am so productive programming in the Unix environment is that 
everything is so well documented.
I wish that were nearly true of Cold Fusion.

At 11:52 AM 9/29/00 -0400, Steve Bernard wrote:
To some this may seem trivial but, the PDF documentation HAS to get fixed.
For many this is the only documentation that they have for 4.5.x and quite
frankly, it sucks. It's not the content, it's the usability. In earlier
versions, especially the 4.0.x series, the included and downloadable PDF
documentation was thorough and well built. There were bookmarks, thumbnails,
and the links all worked. Starting with CFAS 4.5 the PDF's have none of
these, which makes them almost useless. "Hmmm, was CFREGISTRY on page 171 or
117? What page number is the end of tags and the beginning of functions? Why
don't these darn bookmarks work!?" You get the picture. Not everyone uses
Studio and many CF servers have the HTML documentation removed. If PDF was
only supposed to be a supplement my opinion would be different but, for
upgraders, purchasers of electronic distributions, or those who do not use
Studio the PDF docs are all that they have. Unfortunately, Allaire's
documentation has always had problems, whether it be incompleteness,
inaccuracy, lateness, or terrible physical quality. The documentation group,
Margaret et al., made great strides in the 4.0.x series but, things seem to
be crumbling again.

Regards,

*

Steve Bernard


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RE: TO ALL: Request for ColdFusion SP2 Input

2000-09-29 Thread Steve Bernard



-Original Message-
From: Robert Everland III [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2000 12:36 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: TO ALL: Request for ColdFusion SP2 Input


I gave up on this dream months ago. I now exclusively use the online
documentation. Someone else has made a new version of this just don't expect
allaire to do anything about it. I mentioned it to Ben Freuh when he was in
town and I have heard nor seen anything come of it, why should allaire have
to appease thier customers anyways.

Bob Everland

-Original Message-
From: Steve Bernard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2000 11:53 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: TO ALL: Request for ColdFusion SP2 Input


To some this may seem trivial but, the PDF documentation HAS to get fixed.
For many this is the only documentation that they have for 4.5.x and quite
frankly, it sucks. It's not the content, it's the usability. In earlier
versions, especially the 4.0.x series, the included and downloadable PDF
documentation was thorough and well built. There were bookmarks, thumbnails,
and the links all worked. Starting with CFAS 4.5 the PDF's have none of
these, which makes them almost useless. "Hmmm, was CFREGISTRY on page 171 or
117? What page number is the end of tags and the beginning of functions? Why
don't these darn bookmarks work!?" You get the picture. Not everyone uses
Studio and many CF servers have the HTML documentation removed. If PDF was
only supposed to be a supplement my opinion would be different but, for
upgraders, purchasers of electronic distributions, or those who do not use
Studio the PDF docs are all that they have. Unfortunately, Allaire's
documentation has always had problems, whether it be incompleteness,
inaccuracy, lateness, or terrible physical quality. The documentation group,
Margaret et al., made great strides in the 4.0.x series but, things seem to
be crumbling again.

Regards,

*

Steve Bernard



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RE: TO ALL: Request for ColdFusion SP2 Input

2000-09-29 Thread Steve Bernard

It just astounds me that a company would develop a development platform and
then provide documentation that is so obviously hacked together at the last
minute. This casts shadows of unmanaged development, a lack of concern for
the customer, and short-sightedness from the management of the company. For
a long time they have been happy to have Ben Forta, et al. do their
evangelism, documentation, and customer support via the Forums and listservs
like this. Sadly, with all the work done by outsiders to hold the product up
to the light, Allaire's internal development seems to be in disarray. Too
much, too fast could be the hump that broke the camels back.

Steve


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Subject: RE: TO ALL: Request for ColdFusion SP2 Input


I gave up on this dream months ago. I now exclusively use the online
documentation. Someone else has made a new version of this just don't expect
allaire to do anything about it. I mentioned it to Ben Freuh when he was in
town and I have heard nor seen anything come of it, why should allaire have
to appease thier customers anyways.

Bob Everland

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RE: TO ALL: Request for ColdFusion SP2 Input

2000-09-29 Thread Steve Bernard

It just astounds me that a company would develop a development platform and
then provide documentation that is so obviously hacked together at the last
minute. This casts shadows of unmanaged development, a lack of concern for
the customer, and short-sightedness from the management of the company. For
a long time they have been happy to have Ben Forta, et al. do their
evangelism, documentation, and customer support via the Forums and listservs
like this. Sadly, with all the work done by outsiders to hold the product up
to the light, Allaire's internal development seems to be in disarray. Too
much, too fast could be the hump that broke the camels back.

Steve


-Original Message-
From: Robert Everland III [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2000 12:36 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: TO ALL: Request for ColdFusion SP2 Input


I gave up on this dream months ago. I now exclusively use the online
documentation. Someone else has made a new version of this just don't expect
allaire to do anything about it. I mentioned it to Ben Freuh when he was in
town and I have heard nor seen anything come of it, why should allaire have
to appease thier customers anyways.

Bob Everland

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Re: TO ALL: Request for ColdFusion SP2 Input - locking

2000-09-29 Thread Al Musella, DPM


  It is probably too big a change for just a service pack - but maybe keep 
it in mind for the next point release:

I would like to request an option to automatically lock variables.  I read 
the "best practices" paper on the allaire site that explains why you don't 
have it - but you have to understand our point of view.  I (and I am sure 
everyone else on this list) have thousands of templates that I started 
writing with Cold Fusion 2.0, that work perfectly.  There isn't time to 
look at every template that I ever wrote, and add the locking code for it, 
so it is just sitting on the server, probably causing the server to become 
unstable.
   I would gladly give up a little performance to have automatic locking, 
to gain stability.
   I would set it up so that you can turn it on | off in the cfapplication 
tag on a project by project basis, so for apps where it is important for 
consistency issues or perfomance issues, I can do it manually, or if the 
app is on a shared server - we can be sure to have the right setting, not 
having to rely on the isp to decide which setting is best. I would have it 
default to automatic locking unless explicited selected not to have it.

thanks
Al Musella, DPM
Musella Foundation


i know one of the items that makes me very uncomfortable is the apparent
code incompatibility on the locking issues. i.e. code written for CF server
4.5.1 locking doesn't easily work on 4.0 and vice versa..

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RE: TO ALL: Request for ColdFusion SP2 Input - locking

2000-09-29 Thread Benjamin S. Rogers

Amen. Automatic locking should be the default. After all, this is how a good
RDBMS works (and a good application server for that matter). If the
developer wants to override the default locking mechanism to ensure
transactional integrity, then that tool should be available to the them. But
don't shuffle the entire burden of locking off onto the developer because
you're asking a single threaded application server to behave as a
multi-threaded one. That's inexcusable.

Benjamin S. Rogers
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  It is probably too big a change for just a service pack - but maybe keep
it in mind for the next point release:

I would like to request an option to automatically lock variables.  I read
the "best practices" paper on the allaire site that explains why you don't
have it - but you have to understand our point of view.  I (and I am sure
everyone else on this list) have thousands of templates that I started
writing with Cold Fusion 2.0, that work perfectly.  There isn't time to
look at every template that I ever wrote, and add the locking code for it,
so it is just sitting on the server, probably causing the server to become
unstable.
   I would gladly give up a little performance to have automatic locking,
to gain stability.
   I would set it up so that you can turn it on | off in the cfapplication
tag on a project by project basis, so for apps where it is important for
consistency issues or perfomance issues, I can do it manually, or if the
app is on a shared server - we can be sure to have the right setting, not
having to rely on the isp to decide which setting is best. I would have it
default to automatic locking unless explicited selected not to have it.

thanks
Al Musella, DPM
Musella Foundation


i know one of the items that makes me very uncomfortable is the apparent
code incompatibility on the locking issues. i.e. code written for CF server
4.5.1 locking doesn't easily work on 4.0 and vice versa..


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Re: TO ALL: Request for ColdFusion SP2 Input

2000-09-28 Thread Peter Theobald

Thread-safe Sybase drivers on Linux would be nice :-)

At 08:50 AM 9/27/00 -0400, Damon Cooper wrote:
Folks, 

ColdFusion Service Pack 2 is under construction, and I'd like to get your
feedback on what you believe to be Must-Be-Fixed items.

While Service Pack 1 focused heavily on stability and performance issues
(across platform and Unix-specific), we'd like to nail as many serious
feature and tag bugs as possible, although the release cycle will be
significantly shorter (shooting for an early November release).

Currently, here's a summary of bug fixes slated for SP2:

18965   Native Oracle CLOB support
18389   Security/Solaris Cfexec restart of Security Proxy
17873   Informix 2.3  2.5 client lib support 
15776   CFMAIL recipients truncated at 246 characters
18191,18237,18314   CFHTTP Post failure (but redirects must still be an
absolute url)
18338, 17121LSNumberFormat and NumberFormat problems
16663   MIME attached over regular WAP gateway (UTF-8).  
19010   CFFILE/move problem on Unix file systems
17601   COM Threading Model Changes
18311   CFHTTP 'Connection Failure' error if the status code
is 204 
18246   CFPOP unknown exception condition
18811   POP3 enhancement
18058, 16875Applet interface in CFAdmin problems with parm
fields
18607   MSAccess bug hangs CF on Win2k/SP1
18579   Secuirty Administration Bug - cfm file change
17543   Locale Date Support - Solaris
10115   European dates broken in Solaris CF 4.5+ 
19003   CFFTP connection bug 
12523   Unix, LSParseDateTime only functions for US english.
18991   CFHTTP on Linux crash with 4k content
18234, 17792MS SQLServer problems on Linux
18778   Scheduled tasks don't run with CFREGISTRY disabled

I can't promise anything, but this release is for you, and I want to make
sure you're heard.  Please either post to the list or send email directly to
me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and reference your Allaire Issue/Bug # if you have
one.

Thanks

Damon Cooper
ColdFusion Release Manager 
Allaire
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Re: TO ALL: Request for ColdFusion SP2 Input

2000-09-28 Thread Peter Theobald

Cold Fusion Studio crashes a Win98 system every time due to resource problems.

At 08:50 AM 9/27/00 -0400, Damon Cooper wrote:
Folks, 

ColdFusion Service Pack 2 is under construction, and I'd like to get your
feedback on what you believe to be Must-Be-Fixed items.

While Service Pack 1 focused heavily on stability and performance issues
(across platform and Unix-specific), we'd like to nail as many serious
feature and tag bugs as possible, although the release cycle will be
significantly shorter (shooting for an early November release).

Currently, here's a summary of bug fixes slated for SP2:

18965   Native Oracle CLOB support
18389   Security/Solaris Cfexec restart of Security Proxy
17873   Informix 2.3  2.5 client lib support 
15776   CFMAIL recipients truncated at 246 characters
18191,18237,18314   CFHTTP Post failure (but redirects must still be an
absolute url)
18338, 17121LSNumberFormat and NumberFormat problems
16663   MIME attached over regular WAP gateway (UTF-8).  
19010   CFFILE/move problem on Unix file systems
17601   COM Threading Model Changes
18311   CFHTTP 'Connection Failure' error if the status code
is 204 
18246   CFPOP unknown exception condition
18811   POP3 enhancement
18058, 16875Applet interface in CFAdmin problems with parm
fields
18607   MSAccess bug hangs CF on Win2k/SP1
18579   Secuirty Administration Bug - cfm file change
17543   Locale Date Support - Solaris
10115   European dates broken in Solaris CF 4.5+ 
19003   CFFTP connection bug 
12523   Unix, LSParseDateTime only functions for US english.
18991   CFHTTP on Linux crash with 4k content
18234, 17792MS SQLServer problems on Linux
18778   Scheduled tasks don't run with CFREGISTRY disabled

I can't promise anything, but this release is for you, and I want to make
sure you're heard.  Please either post to the list or send email directly to
me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and reference your Allaire Issue/Bug # if you have
one.

Thanks

Damon Cooper
ColdFusion Release Manager 
Allaire
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RE: TO ALL: Request for ColdFusion SP2 Input

2000-09-28 Thread Jesse Noller

Peter:

We do not have control over the Sybase drivers on linux that you are
speaking about. Those come directly from Sybase, and Sybase has publicly
stated that the drivers a non-thread-safe due to the whacked threading model
on Linux.

I agree with them, the threading model has been whacked, however,
with the 2.4 kernel, the threading model has been re-written to allow for a
better threading structure and model.


Time will have to tell on this one.

disclosure: i work for allaire, and am also a linux developer

-Jesse

 -Original Message-
 From: Peter Theobald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 1:46 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: TO ALL: Request for ColdFusion SP2 Input
 
 
 Thread-safe Sybase drivers on Linux would be nice :-)
 
 At 08:50 AM 9/27/00 -0400, Damon Cooper wrote:
 Folks, 
 
 ColdFusion Service Pack 2 is under construction, and I'd 
 like to get your
 feedback on what you believe to be Must-Be-Fixed items.
 
 While Service Pack 1 focused heavily on stability and 
 performance issues
 (across platform and Unix-specific), we'd like to nail as 
 many serious
 feature and tag bugs as possible, although the release cycle will be
 significantly shorter (shooting for an early November release).
 
 Currently, here's a summary of bug fixes slated for SP2:
 
 18965   Native Oracle CLOB support
 18389   Security/Solaris Cfexec restart of 
 Security Proxy
 17873   Informix 2.3  2.5 client lib support 
 15776   CFMAIL recipients truncated at 246 characters
 18191,18237,18314   CFHTTP Post failure (but redirects 
 must still be an
 absolute url)
 18338, 17121LSNumberFormat and NumberFormat problems
 16663   MIME attached over regular WAP 
 gateway (UTF-8).  
 19010   CFFILE/move problem on Unix file systems
 17601   COM Threading Model Changes
 18311   CFHTTP 'Connection Failure' error if 
 the status code
 is 204 
 18246   CFPOP unknown exception condition
 18811   POP3 enhancement
 18058, 16875Applet interface in CFAdmin problems 
 with parm
 fields
 18607   MSAccess bug hangs CF on Win2k/SP1
 18579   Secuirty Administration Bug - cfm file change
 17543   Locale Date Support - Solaris
 10115   European dates broken in Solaris CF 4.5+ 
 19003   CFFTP connection bug 
 12523   Unix, LSParseDateTime only functions 
 for US english.
 18991   CFHTTP on Linux crash with 4k content
 18234, 17792MS SQLServer problems on Linux
 18778   Scheduled tasks don't run with 
 CFREGISTRY disabled
 
 I can't promise anything, but this release is for you, and I 
 want to make
 sure you're heard.  Please either post to the list or send 
 email directly to
 me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and reference your Allaire 
 Issue/Bug # if you have
 one.
 
 Thanks
 
 Damon Cooper
 ColdFusion Release Manager 
 Allaire
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Re: TO ALL: Request for ColdFusion SP2 Input

2000-09-28 Thread Damon Cooper

Peter, the Sybase Open Client for Linux threading issue has nothing to do
with Allaire or ColdFusion.  The issue is that Open Client for Linux is
currently single threaded.  

From Sybase:

"The current releases of OpenClient for Linux are NOT thread-safe.  I'm told
this is because of the thread-safe issues within Linux the libio -
libpthread combination.  Much development work is going on within this
arena.  We have decided with not releasing the threadsafe libraries until
the known LinuxThreads issues are resolved."

"...the Linux OpenClient 11.1.1 version is not thread safe.  It is scheduled
for 12.5 the last time I looked."

Here are some references:
http://webforums.sybase.com/nntp/nd58.nsf/docid/7f2c456f0362933d67523d4c
c92f8a4d
http://webforums.sybase.com/nntp/nd58.nsf/docid/735711d681681b03ad4743cc
3da7c977
http://webforums.sybase.com/nntp/nd33.nsf/docid/c403d2b1120d10c5bcbc605e
f832ba6f


-
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 01:45:39 -0400
From: Peter Theobald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Damon Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: TO ALL: Request for ColdFusion SP2 Input
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thread-safe Sybase drivers on Linux would be nice :-)

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Re: TO ALL: Request for ColdFusion SP2 Input

2000-09-28 Thread Damon Cooper

Peter, someone should be contacting you shortly for details.

Thanks


Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 01:50:36 -0400
From: Peter Theobald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Damon Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: TO ALL: Request for ColdFusion SP2 Input
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Cold Fusion Studio crashes a Win98 system every time due to resource
problems.
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RE: TO ALL: Request for ColdFusion SP2 Input

2000-09-28 Thread Peter Theobald

Sigh...

I'm waiting for 2.4's raw devices too.

Thanks.

At 11:03 AM 9/28/00 -0400, Jesse Noller wrote:
Peter:

We do not have control over the Sybase drivers on linux that you are
speaking about. Those come directly from Sybase, and Sybase has publicly
stated that the drivers a non-thread-safe due to the whacked threading model
on Linux.

I agree with them, the threading model has been whacked, however,
with the 2.4 kernel, the threading model has been re-written to allow for a
better threading structure and model.


Time will have to tell on this one.

disclosure: i work for allaire, and am also a linux developer

-Jesse

 -Original Message-
 From: Peter Theobald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 1:46 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: TO ALL: Request for ColdFusion SP2 Input
 
 
 Thread-safe Sybase drivers on Linux would be nice :-)
 
 At 08:50 AM 9/27/00 -0400, Damon Cooper wrote:
 Folks, 
 
 ColdFusion Service Pack 2 is under construction, and I'd 
 like to get your
 feedback on what you believe to be Must-Be-Fixed items.
 
 While Service Pack 1 focused heavily on stability and 
 performance issues
 (across platform and Unix-specific), we'd like to nail as 
 many serious
 feature and tag bugs as possible, although the release cycle will be
 significantly shorter (shooting for an early November release).
 
 Currently, here's a summary of bug fixes slated for SP2:
 
 18965   Native Oracle CLOB support
 18389   Security/Solaris Cfexec restart of 
 Security Proxy
 17873   Informix 2.3  2.5 client lib support 
 15776   CFMAIL recipients truncated at 246 characters
 18191,18237,18314   CFHTTP Post failure (but redirects 
 must still be an
 absolute url)
 18338, 17121LSNumberFormat and NumberFormat problems
 16663   MIME attached over regular WAP 
 gateway (UTF-8).  
 19010   CFFILE/move problem on Unix file systems
 17601   COM Threading Model Changes
 18311   CFHTTP 'Connection Failure' error if 
 the status code
 is 204 
 18246   CFPOP unknown exception condition
 18811   POP3 enhancement
 18058, 16875Applet interface in CFAdmin problems 
 with parm
 fields
 18607   MSAccess bug hangs CF on Win2k/SP1
 18579   Secuirty Administration Bug - cfm file change
 17543   Locale Date Support - Solaris
 10115   European dates broken in Solaris CF 4.5+ 
 19003   CFFTP connection bug 
 12523   Unix, LSParseDateTime only functions 
 for US english.
 18991   CFHTTP on Linux crash with 4k content
 18234, 17792MS SQLServer problems on Linux
 18778   Scheduled tasks don't run with 
 CFREGISTRY disabled
 
 I can't promise anything, but this release is for you, and I 
 want to make
 sure you're heard.  Please either post to the list or send 
 email directly to
 me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and reference your Allaire 
 Issue/Bug # if you have
 one.
 
 Thanks
 
 Damon Cooper
 ColdFusion Release Manager 
 Allaire
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RE: TO ALL: Request for ColdFusion SP2 Input

2000-09-28 Thread Jesse Noller

Man, i just want the new threading model, the SMP performance increases and
the new TCP stack. Sign up to Linux kernel devl for the latest word -
http://www.tux.org/lkml/ (caution, HIGH traffic list)

-Jesse

BTW: further talks on this thread should be moved to cf-linux.

 -Original Message-
 From: Peter Theobald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 12:22 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: TO ALL: Request for ColdFusion SP2 Input
 
 
 Sigh...
 
 I'm waiting for 2.4's raw devices too.
 
 Thanks.
 
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Re: TO ALL: Request for ColdFusion SP2 Input

2000-09-28 Thread Peter Theobald

Re: CFHTTP building a query: the CSV parsing is broken as follows:

If you specify a text qualifier then EVERY field must be surrounded by that text 
qualifier or CFHTTP gives an error. 
I would expect that a very common source of CSV files is from Microsoft Excel. When 
Excel saves CSV files it ONLY puts " text qualifiers " around fields that have commas 
embedded in them. All fields without commas do NOT get "text qualifiers" (because 
there is no ambiguity with the delimiters). This as I just pointed out will cause 
CFHTTP to give an error.

At 08:50 AM 9/27/00 -0400, Damon Cooper wrote:
Folks, 

ColdFusion Service Pack 2 is under construction, and I'd like to get your
feedback on what you believe to be Must-Be-Fixed items.

While Service Pack 1 focused heavily on stability and performance issues
(across platform and Unix-specific), we'd like to nail as many serious
feature and tag bugs as possible, although the release cycle will be
significantly shorter (shooting for an early November release).

Currently, here's a summary of bug fixes slated for SP2:

18965   Native Oracle CLOB support
18389   Security/Solaris Cfexec restart of Security Proxy
17873   Informix 2.3  2.5 client lib support 
15776   CFMAIL recipients truncated at 246 characters
18191,18237,18314   CFHTTP Post failure (but redirects must still be an
absolute url)
18338, 17121LSNumberFormat and NumberFormat problems
16663   MIME attached over regular WAP gateway (UTF-8).  
19010   CFFILE/move problem on Unix file systems
17601   COM Threading Model Changes
18311   CFHTTP 'Connection Failure' error if the status code
is 204 
18246   CFPOP unknown exception condition
18811   POP3 enhancement
18058, 16875Applet interface in CFAdmin problems with parm
fields
18607   MSAccess bug hangs CF on Win2k/SP1
18579   Secuirty Administration Bug - cfm file change
17543   Locale Date Support - Solaris
10115   European dates broken in Solaris CF 4.5+ 
19003   CFFTP connection bug 
12523   Unix, LSParseDateTime only functions for US english.
18991   CFHTTP on Linux crash with 4k content
18234, 17792MS SQLServer problems on Linux
18778   Scheduled tasks don't run with CFREGISTRY disabled

I can't promise anything, but this release is for you, and I want to make
sure you're heard.  Please either post to the list or send email directly to
me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and reference your Allaire Issue/Bug # if you have
one.

Thanks

Damon Cooper
ColdFusion Release Manager 
Allaire
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Re: TO ALL: Request for ColdFusion SP2 Input

2000-09-27 Thread David Shadovitz

Damon,
This is great!  We appreciate that Allaire is working with CF developers.

-David Shadovitz

On Wed, 27 Sep 2000 08:50:44 -0400 Damon Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
 Folks, 
 
 ColdFusion Service Pack 2 is under construction, and I'd like to get 
 your
 feedback on what you believe to be Must-Be-Fixed items.
 
 While Service Pack 1 focused heavily on stability and performance 
 issues
 (across platform and Unix-specific), we'd like to nail as many 
 serious
 feature and tag bugs as possible, although the release cycle will be
 significantly shorter (shooting for an early November release).
 
 Currently, here's a summary of bug fixes slated for SP2:
 
 18965 Native Oracle CLOB support
 18389 Security/Solaris Cfexec restart of 
 Security Proxy
 17873 Informix 2.3  2.5 client lib support 
 15776 CFMAIL recipients truncated at 246 
 characters
 18191,18237,18314 CFHTTP Post failure (but redirects must 
 still be an
 absolute url)
 18338, 17121  LSNumberFormat and NumberFormat problems
 16663 MIME attached over regular WAP gateway 
 (UTF-8).  
 19010 CFFILE/move problem on Unix file 
 systems
 17601 COM Threading Model Changes
 18311 CFHTTP 'Connection Failure' error if 
 the status code
 is 204 
 18246 CFPOP unknown exception condition
 18811 POP3 enhancement
 18058, 16875  Applet interface in CFAdmin problems 
 with parm
 fields
 18607 MSAccess bug hangs CF on Win2k/SP1
 18579 Secuirty Administration Bug - cfm file 
 change
 17543 Locale Date Support - Solaris
 10115 European dates broken in Solaris CF 
 4.5+ 
 19003 CFFTP connection bug 
 12523 Unix, LSParseDateTime only functions 
 for US english.
 18991 CFHTTP on Linux crash with 4k content
 18234, 17792  MS SQLServer problems on Linux
 18778 Scheduled tasks don't run with 
 CFREGISTRY disabled
 
 I can't promise anything, but this release is for you, and I want to 
 make
 sure you're heard.  Please either post to the list or send email 
 directly to
 me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and reference your Allaire Issue/Bug # if 
 you have
 one.
 
 Thanks
 
 Damon Cooper
 ColdFusion Release Manager 
 Allaire

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RE: TO ALL: Request for ColdFusion SP2 Input

2000-09-27 Thread Steve Martin

Damon,
I haven't seen this raised as an issue elsewhere so I'll mention it to you.
It isn't so much something that is broken than a change in behaviour between
4.01 and 4.5 which had the effect of breaking some of our code which relied
on the 4.01 behaviour. Note also that this change in behaviour wasn't
mentioned in the release notes for 4.5
The problem:

You may be aware that when calling custom tags, either using the "CF_"
syntax, or using "CFMODULE", you can pass a special attribute called
"ATTRIBUTECOLLECTION", which is a struct of attributes. We use it quite a
lot when using optional parameters, as it allows a collection of parameters
to be created, and then sent "en masse" to a module, e.g.

cfset MyAttributeStruct=StructNew()
cfif NeedToPassX
cfset MyAttributeStruct.X="Hello"
/cfif
cfif NeedToPassY
cfset MyAttributeStruct.Y="World"
/cfif

!--- and so on ---

cf_SomeTag attributecollection=#MyAttributeStruct#


In practice, you can mix and match "attributecollection" and standard
parameters, e.g.
cf_SomeTag attributecollection=#MyAttributeStruct# Z="!"

which is entirely equivalent to, say,
cf_SomeTag X="Hello" Y="World" Z="!"

The change has come in how repeated variables are treated, e.g.
cf_SomeTag attributecollection=#MyAttributeStruct# X="Goodbye"

Here X is specified twice, once in the attributecollection, once as a normal
parameter.

The problem (for me at least, moving code from 4.01 to 4.5) is that in 4.01
the "normal" parameter has precedence, whereas in 4.5 the "struct" parameter
has precedence, resulting in:

4.01  cf_SomeTag X="Goodbye" Y="World"
4.5   cf_SomeTag X="Hello" Y="World"

Was there a reason for the initial change and if so, why was it done and why
wasn't it documented? If not, can we have the original behaviour back
please?  :-)

Regards,
Steve Martin
Allaire Certified Instructor

(initially spotted by P.Murphy [ACI] )




 -Original Message-
 From: Damon Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 13:51
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: TO ALL: Request for ColdFusion SP2 Input


 Folks,

 ColdFusion Service Pack 2 is under construction, and I'd like to get your
 feedback on what you believe to be Must-Be-Fixed items.

 While Service Pack 1 focused heavily on stability and performance issues
 (across platform and Unix-specific), we'd like to nail as many serious
 feature and tag bugs as possible, although the release cycle will be
 significantly shorter (shooting for an early November release).

 Currently, here's a summary of bug fixes slated for SP2:

 18965 Native Oracle CLOB support
 18389 Security/Solaris Cfexec restart of Security Proxy
 17873 Informix 2.3  2.5 client lib support
 15776 CFMAIL recipients truncated at 246 characters
 18191,18237,18314 CFHTTP Post failure (but redirects must still be an
 absolute url)
 18338, 17121  LSNumberFormat and NumberFormat problems
 16663 MIME attached over regular WAP gateway (UTF-8).
 19010 CFFILE/move problem on Unix file systems
 17601 COM Threading Model Changes
 18311 CFHTTP 'Connection Failure' error if the status code
 is 204
 18246 CFPOP unknown exception condition
 18811 POP3 enhancement
 18058, 16875  Applet interface in CFAdmin problems with parm
 fields
 18607 MSAccess bug hangs CF on Win2k/SP1
 18579 Secuirty Administration Bug - cfm file change
 17543 Locale Date Support - Solaris
 10115 European dates broken in Solaris CF 4.5+
 19003 CFFTP connection bug
 12523 Unix, LSParseDateTime only functions for US english.
 18991 CFHTTP on Linux crash with 4k content
 18234, 17792  MS SQLServer problems on Linux
 18778 Scheduled tasks don't run with CFREGISTRY disabled

 I can't promise anything, but this release is for you, and I want to make
 sure you're heard.  Please either post to the list or send email
 directly to
 me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and reference your Allaire Issue/Bug #
 if you have
 one.

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RE: TO ALL: Request for ColdFusion SP2 Input

2000-09-27 Thread Heath Lord

Actually, he was right...

  I can't promise anything, but this release is for you, and I want to
 make
  sure you're heard.  Please either post to the list or send email
  directly to
  me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and reference your Allaire Issue/Bug #
  if you have
  one.

But, read his email anyway.

Heath

-Original Message-
From: Reynolds, Adam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 9:27 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: TO ALL: Request for ColdFusion SP2 Input


Sorry to be a bit of a bore, but read his email. You should email him
directly.

 --
 From: Steve Martin[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 27 September 2000 14:22
 To:   CF-Talk
 Cc:   Phil
 Subject:  RE: TO ALL: Request for ColdFusion SP2 Input
 
 Damon,
 I haven't seen this raised as an issue elsewhere so I'll mention it to
 you.
 It isn't so much something that is broken than a change in behaviour
 between
 4.01 and 4.5 which had the effect of breaking some of our code which
 relied
 on the 4.01 behaviour. Note also that this change in behaviour wasn't
 mentioned in the release notes for 4.5
 The problem:
 
 You may be aware that when calling custom tags, either using the "CF_"
 syntax, or using "CFMODULE", you can pass a special attribute called
 "ATTRIBUTECOLLECTION", which is a struct of attributes. We use it quite a
 lot when using optional parameters, as it allows a collection of
 parameters
 to be created, and then sent "en masse" to a module, e.g.
 
   cfset MyAttributeStruct=StructNew()
   cfif NeedToPassX
   cfset MyAttributeStruct.X="Hello"
   /cfif
   cfif NeedToPassY
   cfset MyAttributeStruct.Y="World"
   /cfif
 
   !--- and so on ---
 
   cf_SomeTag attributecollection=#MyAttributeStruct#
 
 
 In practice, you can mix and match "attributecollection" and standard
 parameters, e.g.
   cf_SomeTag attributecollection=#MyAttributeStruct# Z="!"
 
 which is entirely equivalent to, say,
   cf_SomeTag X="Hello" Y="World" Z="!"
 
 The change has come in how repeated variables are treated, e.g.
   cf_SomeTag attributecollection=#MyAttributeStruct# X="Goodbye"
 
 Here X is specified twice, once in the attributecollection, once as a
 normal
 parameter.
 
 The problem (for me at least, moving code from 4.01 to 4.5) is that in
 4.01
 the "normal" parameter has precedence, whereas in 4.5 the "struct"
 parameter
 has precedence, resulting in:
 
 4.01  cf_SomeTag X="Goodbye" Y="World"
 4.5   cf_SomeTag X="Hello" Y="World"
 
 Was there a reason for the initial change and if so, why was it done and
 why
 wasn't it documented? If not, can we have the original behaviour back
 please?  :-)
 
 Regards,
 Steve Martin
 Allaire Certified Instructor
 
 (initially spotted by P.Murphy [ACI] )
 
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Damon Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 13:51
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: TO ALL: Request for ColdFusion SP2 Input
 
 
  Folks,
 
  ColdFusion Service Pack 2 is under construction, and I'd like to get
 your
  feedback on what you believe to be Must-Be-Fixed items.
 
  While Service Pack 1 focused heavily on stability and performance issues
  (across platform and Unix-specific), we'd like to nail as many serious
  feature and tag bugs as possible, although the release cycle will be
  significantly shorter (shooting for an early November release).
 
  Currently, here's a summary of bug fixes slated for SP2:
 
  18965   Native Oracle CLOB support
  18389   Security/Solaris Cfexec restart of Security
 Proxy
  17873   Informix 2.3  2.5 client lib support
  15776   CFMAIL recipients truncated at 246
 characters
  18191,18237,18314   CFHTTP Post failure (but redirects must still be an
  absolute url)
  18338, 17121LSNumberFormat and NumberFormat problems
  16663   MIME attached over regular WAP gateway
 (UTF-8).
  19010   CFFILE/move problem on Unix file systems
  17601   COM Threading Model Changes
  18311   CFHTTP 'Connection Failure' error if the
 status code
  is 204
  18246   CFPOP unknown exception condition
  18811   POP3 enhancement
  18058, 16875Applet interface in CFAdmin problems with
 parm
  fields
  18607   MSAccess bug hangs CF on Win2k/SP1
  18579   Secuirty Administration Bug - cfm file
 change
  17543   Locale Date Support - Solaris
  10115   European dates broken in Solaris CF 4.5+
  19003   CFFTP connection bug
  12523   Unix, LSPa

RE: TO ALL: Request for ColdFusion SP2 Input

2000-09-27 Thread Reynolds, Adam

Dohapologies in the middle of a code crisis...scanned his
email...during a 10 second break :)

 --
 From: Heath Lord[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 27 September 2000 14:39
 To:   CF-Talk
 Subject:  RE: TO ALL: Request for ColdFusion SP2 Input
 
 Actually, he was right...
 
   I can't promise anything, but this release is for you, and I want to
  make
   sure you're heard.  Please either post to the list or send email
   directly to
   me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and reference your Allaire Issue/Bug #
   if you have
   one.
 
 But, read his email anyway.
 
 Heath
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Reynolds, Adam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 9:27 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: TO ALL: Request for ColdFusion SP2 Input
 
 
 Sorry to be a bit of a bore, but read his email. You should email him
 directly.
 
  --
  From:   Steve Martin[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent:   27 September 2000 14:22
  To: CF-Talk
  Cc: Phil
  Subject:RE: TO ALL: Request for ColdFusion SP2 Input
  
  Damon,
  I haven't seen this raised as an issue elsewhere so I'll mention it to
  you.
  It isn't so much something that is broken than a change in behaviour
  between
  4.01 and 4.5 which had the effect of breaking some of our code which
  relied
  on the 4.01 behaviour. Note also that this change in behaviour wasn't
  mentioned in the release notes for 4.5
  The problem:
  
  You may be aware that when calling custom tags, either using the "CF_"
  syntax, or using "CFMODULE", you can pass a special attribute called
  "ATTRIBUTECOLLECTION", which is a struct of attributes. We use it quite
 a
  lot when using optional parameters, as it allows a collection of
  parameters
  to be created, and then sent "en masse" to a module, e.g.
  
  cfset MyAttributeStruct=StructNew()
  cfif NeedToPassX
  cfset MyAttributeStruct.X="Hello"
  /cfif
  cfif NeedToPassY
  cfset MyAttributeStruct.Y="World"
  /cfif
  
  !--- and so on ---
  
  cf_SomeTag attributecollection=#MyAttributeStruct#
  
  
  In practice, you can mix and match "attributecollection" and standard
  parameters, e.g.
  cf_SomeTag attributecollection=#MyAttributeStruct# Z="!"
  
  which is entirely equivalent to, say,
  cf_SomeTag X="Hello" Y="World" Z="!"
  
  The change has come in how repeated variables are treated, e.g.
  cf_SomeTag attributecollection=#MyAttributeStruct# X="Goodbye"
  
  Here X is specified twice, once in the attributecollection, once as a
  normal
  parameter.
  
  The problem (for me at least, moving code from 4.01 to 4.5) is that in
  4.01
  the "normal" parameter has precedence, whereas in 4.5 the "struct"
  parameter
  has precedence, resulting in:
  
  4.01  cf_SomeTag X="Goodbye" Y="World"
  4.5   cf_SomeTag X="Hello" Y="World"
  
  Was there a reason for the initial change and if so, why was it done and
  why
  wasn't it documented? If not, can we have the original behaviour back
  please?  :-)
  
  Regards,
  Steve Martin
  Allaire Certified Instructor
  
  (initially spotted by P.Murphy [ACI] )
  
  
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Damon Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 13:51
   To: CF-Talk
   Subject: TO ALL: Request for ColdFusion SP2 Input
  
  
   Folks,
  
   ColdFusion Service Pack 2 is under construction, and I'd like to get
  your
   feedback on what you believe to be Must-Be-Fixed items.
  
   While Service Pack 1 focused heavily on stability and performance
 issues
   (across platform and Unix-specific), we'd like to nail as many serious
   feature and tag bugs as possible, although the release cycle will be
   significantly shorter (shooting for an early November release).
  
   Currently, here's a summary of bug fixes slated for SP2:
  
   18965 Native Oracle CLOB support
   18389 Security/Solaris Cfexec restart of Security
  Proxy
   17873 Informix 2.3  2.5 client lib support
   15776 CFMAIL recipients truncated at 246
  characters
   18191,18237,18314 CFHTTP Post failure (but redirects must still be an
   absolute url)
   18338, 17121  LSNumberFormat and NumberFormat problems
   16663 MIME attached over regular WAP gateway
  (UTF-8).
   19010 CFFILE/move problem on Unix file systems
   17601 COM Threading Model Changes
   18311 CFHTTP 'Connection Failure' error if the
  status code
   is 204
   18246 CFPOP unknown exception condition
   18811 POP3 enhancement
   18058, 16875  Applet interface in CFAdmin problems with
  parm
   fie

RE: TO ALL: Request for ColdFusion SP2 Input

2000-09-27 Thread Stewart McGowan

hmmm you get breaks

-Original Message-
From: Reynolds, Adam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 27 September 2000 14:41
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: TO ALL: Request for ColdFusion SP2 Input


Dohapologies in the middle of a code crisis...scanned his
email...during a 10 second break :)

 --
 From: Heath Lord[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 27 September 2000 14:39
 To:   CF-Talk
 Subject:  RE: TO ALL: Request for ColdFusion SP2 Input
 
 Actually, he was right...
 
   I can't promise anything, but this release is for you, and I want to
  make
   sure you're heard.  Please either post to the list or send email
   directly to
   me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and reference your Allaire Issue/Bug #
   if you have
   one.
 
 But, read his email anyway.
 
 Heath
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Reynolds, Adam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 9:27 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: TO ALL: Request for ColdFusion SP2 Input
 
 
 Sorry to be a bit of a bore, but read his email. You should email him
 directly.
 
  --
  From:   Steve Martin[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent:   27 September 2000 14:22
  To: CF-Talk
  Cc: Phil
  Subject:RE: TO ALL: Request for ColdFusion SP2 Input
  
  Damon,
  I haven't seen this raised as an issue elsewhere so I'll mention it to
  you.
  It isn't so much something that is broken than a change in behaviour
  between
  4.01 and 4.5 which had the effect of breaking some of our code which
  relied
  on the 4.01 behaviour. Note also that this change in behaviour wasn't
  mentioned in the release notes for 4.5
  The problem:
  
  You may be aware that when calling custom tags, either using the "CF_"
  syntax, or using "CFMODULE", you can pass a special attribute called
  "ATTRIBUTECOLLECTION", which is a struct of attributes. We use it quite
 a
  lot when using optional parameters, as it allows a collection of
  parameters
  to be created, and then sent "en masse" to a module, e.g.
  
  cfset MyAttributeStruct=StructNew()
  cfif NeedToPassX
  cfset MyAttributeStruct.X="Hello"
  /cfif
  cfif NeedToPassY
  cfset MyAttributeStruct.Y="World"
  /cfif
  
  !--- and so on ---
  
  cf_SomeTag attributecollection=#MyAttributeStruct#
  
  
  In practice, you can mix and match "attributecollection" and standard
  parameters, e.g.
  cf_SomeTag attributecollection=#MyAttributeStruct# Z="!"
  
  which is entirely equivalent to, say,
  cf_SomeTag X="Hello" Y="World" Z="!"
  
  The change has come in how repeated variables are treated, e.g.
  cf_SomeTag attributecollection=#MyAttributeStruct# X="Goodbye"
  
  Here X is specified twice, once in the attributecollection, once as a
  normal
  parameter.
  
  The problem (for me at least, moving code from 4.01 to 4.5) is that in
  4.01
  the "normal" parameter has precedence, whereas in 4.5 the "struct"
  parameter
  has precedence, resulting in:
  
  4.01  cf_SomeTag X="Goodbye" Y="World"
  4.5   cf_SomeTag X="Hello" Y="World"
  
  Was there a reason for the initial change and if so, why was it done and
  why
  wasn't it documented? If not, can we have the original behaviour back
  please?  :-)
  
  Regards,
  Steve Martin
  Allaire Certified Instructor
  
  (initially spotted by P.Murphy [ACI] )
  
  
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Damon Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 13:51
   To: CF-Talk
   Subject: TO ALL: Request for ColdFusion SP2 Input
  
  
   Folks,
  
   ColdFusion Service Pack 2 is under construction, and I'd like to get
  your
   feedback on what you believe to be Must-Be-Fixed items.
  
   While Service Pack 1 focused heavily on stability and performance
 issues
   (across platform and Unix-specific), we'd like to nail as many serious
   feature and tag bugs as possible, although the release cycle will be
   significantly shorter (shooting for an early November release).
  
   Currently, here's a summary of bug fixes slated for SP2:
  
   18965 Native Oracle CLOB support
   18389 Security/Solaris Cfexec restart of Security
  Proxy
   17873 Informix 2.3  2.5 client lib support
   15776 CFMAIL recipients truncated at 246
  characters
   18191,18237,18314 CFHTTP Post failure (but redirects must still be an
   absolute url)
   18338, 17121  LSNumberFormat and NumberFormat problems
   16663 MIME attached over regular WAP gateway
  (UTF-8).
   19010 CFFILE/move problem on Unix file systems
   17601 COM Threading Model Changes
   18311 CFHTTP 'Connection Failure' error if the
  status 

RE: TO ALL: Request for ColdFusion SP2 Input

2000-09-27 Thread Steve Martin

Adam,
I did. I also copied it to the list for the benefit of the other list
participants, it just so happens that the list server stripped Damon's
address details out of the To: field.

 -Original Message-
 From: Reynolds, Adam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 14:27
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: TO ALL: Request for ColdFusion SP2 Input


 Sorry to be a bit of a bore, but read his email. You should email him
 directly.

  --
  From:   Steve Martin[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent:   27 September 2000 14:22
  To: CF-Talk
  Cc: Phil
  Subject:RE: TO ALL: Request for ColdFusion SP2 Input
 
  Damon,
  I haven't seen this raised as an issue elsewhere so I'll mention it to
  you.
  It isn't so much something that is broken than a change in behaviour
  between
  4.01 and 4.5 which had the effect of breaking some of our code which
  relied
  on the 4.01 behaviour. Note also that this change in behaviour wasn't
  mentioned in the release notes for 4.5
  The problem:
 
  You may be aware that when calling custom tags, either using the "CF_"
  syntax, or using "CFMODULE", you can pass a special attribute called
  "ATTRIBUTECOLLECTION", which is a struct of attributes. We use
 it quite a
  lot when using optional parameters, as it allows a collection of
  parameters
  to be created, and then sent "en masse" to a module, e.g.
 
  cfset MyAttributeStruct=StructNew()
  cfif NeedToPassX
  cfset MyAttributeStruct.X="Hello"
  /cfif
  cfif NeedToPassY
  cfset MyAttributeStruct.Y="World"
  /cfif
 
  !--- and so on ---
 
  cf_SomeTag attributecollection=#MyAttributeStruct#
 
 
  In practice, you can mix and match "attributecollection" and standard
  parameters, e.g.
  cf_SomeTag attributecollection=#MyAttributeStruct# Z="!"
 
  which is entirely equivalent to, say,
  cf_SomeTag X="Hello" Y="World" Z="!"
 
  The change has come in how repeated variables are treated, e.g.
  cf_SomeTag attributecollection=#MyAttributeStruct# X="Goodbye"
 
  Here X is specified twice, once in the attributecollection, once as a
  normal
  parameter.
 
  The problem (for me at least, moving code from 4.01 to 4.5) is that in
  4.01
  the "normal" parameter has precedence, whereas in 4.5 the "struct"
  parameter
  has precedence, resulting in:
 
  4.01  cf_SomeTag X="Goodbye" Y="World"
  4.5   cf_SomeTag X="Hello" Y="World"
 
  Was there a reason for the initial change and if so, why was it done and
  why
  wasn't it documented? If not, can we have the original behaviour back
  please?  :-)
 
  Regards,
  Steve Martin
  Allaire Certified Instructor
 
  (initially spotted by P.Murphy [ACI] )
 
 
 
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Damon Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 13:51
   To: CF-Talk
   Subject: TO ALL: Request for ColdFusion SP2 Input
  
  
   Folks,
  
   ColdFusion Service Pack 2 is under construction, and I'd like to get
  your
   feedback on what you believe to be Must-Be-Fixed items.
  
   While Service Pack 1 focused heavily on stability and
 performance issues
   (across platform and Unix-specific), we'd like to nail as many serious
   feature and tag bugs as possible, although the release cycle will be
   significantly shorter (shooting for an early November release).
  
   Currently, here's a summary of bug fixes slated for SP2:
  
   18965 Native Oracle CLOB support
   18389 Security/Solaris Cfexec restart of Security
  Proxy
   17873 Informix 2.3  2.5 client lib support
   15776 CFMAIL recipients truncated at 246
  characters
   18191,18237,18314 CFHTTP Post failure (but redirects must still be an
   absolute url)
   18338, 17121  LSNumberFormat and NumberFormat problems
   16663 MIME attached over regular WAP gateway
  (UTF-8).
   19010 CFFILE/move problem on Unix file systems
   17601 COM Threading Model Changes
   18311 CFHTTP 'Connection Failure' error if the
  status code
   is 204
   18246 CFPOP unknown exception condition
   18811 POP3 enhancement
   18058, 16875  Applet interface in CFAdmin problems with
  parm
   fields
   18607 MSAccess bug hangs CF on Win2k/SP1
   18579 Secuirty Administration Bug - cfm file
  change
   17543 Locale Date Support - Solaris
   10115 European dates broken in Solaris CF 4.5+
   19003 CFFTP connection bug
   12523 Unix, LSParseDateTime only functions for US
  english.
   18991

RE: TO ALL: Request for ColdFusion SP2 Input

2000-09-27 Thread Reynolds, Adam

I know I know I know.sorry

 --
 From: Steve Martin[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 27 September 2000 14:46
 To:   CF-Talk
 Subject:  RE: TO ALL: Request for ColdFusion SP2 Input
 
 Adam,
 I did. I also copied it to the list for the benefit of the other list
 participants, it just so happens that the list server stripped Damon's
 address details out of the To: field.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Reynolds, Adam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 14:27
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: RE: TO ALL: Request for ColdFusion SP2 Input
 
 
  Sorry to be a bit of a bore, but read his email. You should email him
  directly.
 
   --
   From: Steve Martin[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: 27 September 2000 14:22
   To:   CF-Talk
   Cc:   Phil
   Subject:  RE: TO ALL: Request for ColdFusion SP2 Input
  
   Damon,
   I haven't seen this raised as an issue elsewhere so I'll mention it to
   you.
   It isn't so much something that is broken than a change in behaviour
   between
   4.01 and 4.5 which had the effect of breaking some of our code which
   relied
   on the 4.01 behaviour. Note also that this change in behaviour wasn't
   mentioned in the release notes for 4.5
   The problem:
  
   You may be aware that when calling custom tags, either using the "CF_"
   syntax, or using "CFMODULE", you can pass a special attribute called
   "ATTRIBUTECOLLECTION", which is a struct of attributes. We use
  it quite a
   lot when using optional parameters, as it allows a collection of
   parameters
   to be created, and then sent "en masse" to a module, e.g.
  
 cfset MyAttributeStruct=StructNew()
 cfif NeedToPassX
 cfset MyAttributeStruct.X="Hello"
 /cfif
 cfif NeedToPassY
 cfset MyAttributeStruct.Y="World"
 /cfif
  
 !--- and so on ---
  
 cf_SomeTag attributecollection=#MyAttributeStruct#
  
  
   In practice, you can mix and match "attributecollection" and standard
   parameters, e.g.
 cf_SomeTag attributecollection=#MyAttributeStruct# Z="!"
  
   which is entirely equivalent to, say,
 cf_SomeTag X="Hello" Y="World" Z="!"
  
   The change has come in how repeated variables are treated, e.g.
 cf_SomeTag attributecollection=#MyAttributeStruct# X="Goodbye"
  
   Here X is specified twice, once in the attributecollection, once as a
   normal
   parameter.
  
   The problem (for me at least, moving code from 4.01 to 4.5) is that in
   4.01
   the "normal" parameter has precedence, whereas in 4.5 the "struct"
   parameter
   has precedence, resulting in:
  
   4.01  cf_SomeTag X="Goodbye" Y="World"
   4.5   cf_SomeTag X="Hello" Y="World"
  
   Was there a reason for the initial change and if so, why was it done
 and
   why
   wasn't it documented? If not, can we have the original behaviour back
   please?  :-)
  
   Regards,
   Steve Martin
   Allaire Certified Instructor
  
   (initially spotted by P.Murphy [ACI] )
  
  
  
  
-Original Message-
From: Damon Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 13:51
To: CF-Talk
Subject: TO ALL: Request for ColdFusion SP2 Input
   
   
Folks,
   
ColdFusion Service Pack 2 is under construction, and I'd like to get
   your
feedback on what you believe to be Must-Be-Fixed items.
   
While Service Pack 1 focused heavily on stability and
  performance issues
(across platform and Unix-specific), we'd like to nail as many
 serious
feature and tag bugs as possible, although the release cycle will be
significantly shorter (shooting for an early November release).
   
Currently, here's a summary of bug fixes slated for SP2:
   
18965   Native Oracle CLOB support
18389   Security/Solaris Cfexec restart of Security
   Proxy
17873   Informix 2.3  2.5 client lib support
15776   CFMAIL recipients truncated at 246
   characters
18191,18237,18314   CFHTTP Post failure (but redirects must
 still be an
absolute url)
18338, 17121LSNumberFormat and NumberFormat problems
16663   MIME attached over regular WAP gateway
   (UTF-8).
19010   CFFILE/move problem on Unix file systems
17601   COM Threading Model Changes
18311   CFHTTP 'Connection Failure' error if the
   status code
is 204
18246   CFPOP unknown exception condition
18811   POP3 enhancement
18058, 16875Applet interface in CFAdmin problems with
   parm
fields
18607   MSAccess bug hangs CF on Win2k/SP1
18579   Secuirty Administration Bug - cfm file
   ch