[OOPS!!] RE: Web Cam - Race Track
Hey guys... thanks for the suggestions. I think for now he wants something pretty inexpensive at first. He is willing to spend the money but wants to test it out with something smaller and cheaper at first. He only wants to use two to three cams to shoot an overview of the track. Two cams would be mounted on the Track Tower and the third would be pointed at pit-lane. I will have to find out for real what his actual bandwidth is... then go from there. I was wondering if I could use some simple waterproof webcams to stream to a service then use the service to host the video for download. Does anyone know of any affordable streaming services? I know Macromedia/Adobe recommend VitalStream and Speedera but they seem to cost a lot. Thanks, - Neal Bailey - www.Advancedgrafx.com - www.MotorsportRanch.com - www.LonestarClassics.com ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:239567 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Web Cam - Race Track
Not sure that a "webcam" or a even a "network videocam" could even capture a race properly. Wouldn't it just be one big blur? -Original Message- From: Neal Bailey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2006 12:52 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Web Cam - Race Track Sorry hope I am not taking over this thread but I have a similar thing I need to do... It's not for meetings exactly but for Motorsport Races. One of my Clients owns a Private Country Club but instead of playing Golf they Race Exotic Sports cars on one of three tracks. I developed their website and now the owner would like to have a steaming webcam setup that points at each track to show the activity to the website visitors. Does anyone have any suggestions on the best way to achieve this? I am not sure what his bandwidth is out there but he said he had a full T1 but I find that a lot of times people don't really know what they have and it turns out to be something much slower. But let's say he does have good upstream bandwidth what system that you know of would do this? Thanks for any suggestions... - Neal Bailey - www.Advancedgrafx.com - www.MotorsportRanch.com - www.LonestarClassics.com -Original Message- From: Jim Wright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2006 9:49 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Web Cam On 5/3/06, Eric Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Netmeeeting probably > I wouldn't waste much time on netmeeting...it might be ok for internal use on your campus network, but you have to have some serious holes in your firewall to use it externally...and even then it isn't easy (especially with NAT). Also it has been pretty effectively neutered in XP...it is still there, but you have to know the executable name to find it, and it doesn't have what it needs by default to do video capture anymore. Of course, having shot that down, I don't have a better solution to offer you if you want it in real time...but if not, you might just upload video files of the meetings to something like youtube or google video. Little or no security...but cost effective. -- Jim Wright Wright Business Solutions [EMAIL PROTECTED] 919-417-2257 ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:239539 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Web Cam - Race Track
> There's a huge difference between the whole Wrigley field webcam - > images updated every 60 seconds and streaming video of a Cubs game. The latter provides a constant stream of pain as the Cubs lose. The former allows the Cubs fan 50-55 seconds of recuperation time between jolts of pain. -- [INFO] -- Access Manager: This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately contact the sender and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. A2 ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:239537 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Web Cam - Race Track
Do they want something that just shows the tracks... or do they want something where a website visitor could actually watch a race? There's a huge difference between the whole Wrigley field webcam - images updated every 60 seconds and streaming video of a Cubs game. --Ferg Neal Bailey wrote: > Sorry hope I am not taking over this thread but I have a similar thing I > need to do... It's not for meetings exactly but for Motorsport Races. One of > my Clients owns a Private Country Club but instead of playing Golf they Race > Exotic Sports cars on one of three tracks. I developed their website and now > the owner would like to have a steaming webcam setup that points at each > track to show the activity to the website visitors. Does anyone have any > suggestions on the best way to achieve this? I am not sure what his > bandwidth is out there but he said he had a full T1 but I find that a lot of > times people don't really know what they have and it turns out to be > something much slower. But let's say he does have good upstream bandwidth > what system that you know of would do this? > > Thanks for any suggestions... > > - Neal Bailey > - www.Advancedgrafx.com > - www.MotorsportRanch.com > - www.LonestarClassics.com > > > -Original Message- > From: Jim Wright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2006 9:49 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: Web Cam > > On 5/3/06, Eric Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Netmeeeting probably >> >> > > I wouldn't waste much time on netmeeting...it might be ok for internal > use on your campus network, but you have to have some serious holes in > your firewall to use it externally...and even then it isn't easy > (especially with NAT). Also it has been pretty effectively neutered > in XP...it is still there, but you have to know the executable name to > find it, and it doesn't have what it needs by default to do video > capture anymore. > > Of course, having shot that down, I don't have a better solution to > offer you if you want it in real time...but if not, you might just > upload video files of the meetings to something like youtube or google > video. Little or no security...but cost effective. > > -- > Jim Wright > Wright Business Solutions > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 919-417-2257 > > > > ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:239535 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Web Cam - Race Track
Spending money is definitely a necessity. Depending on traffic a full T-1 may not be enough. Just take a capture of a webcam and compress it down enough so you can see how viewable it will be then multiply that by a portion of their web users to estimate if they have enough bandwidth. You should look into the flash media server. That seems to be the best way to get video served out. Very compressed and pretty easy to set up. Plus you don't have to worry about third party installs since 98% of web users have flash and will be able to view your video. Bob ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:239533 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Web Cam - Race Track
If you just want to test the waters before diving in and doing it up right, this could be an option. My car club is looking into it for a dyno and track day we're planning in a couple weeks. Somehow I wound up volunteering to handle it. http://www.camstreams.com/ Complete idiot-proof setup. Biggest trick for us is getting a routable IP since we will be running from laptops. If the speed shop has DSL we might be OK. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Janitor, MSB Web Systems http://mysecretbase.com ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:239532 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Web Cam - Race Track
It sounds like what you need is not a webcam, but a network camera. I recommend using products from a company called axis (www.axis.com) Here is what I would look at. First, if they aren;t willing to spend some real money on this, go ahead and stop reading... The good quality equipment is not cheap. Alright.. first, how many cameras do they want/need? If they want more than one, you might want to look at using a video server. These come in 1, 4 or blade quantities. With a 4 channel server you can tie in up to 4 analog security type cameras and stream them over the web. If they only need one or two cameras it might be enough to just get some basic stand alone cameras. Here is the best advantage to using the server though, you can buy or use existing security cameras, which come in a much broader variety, and have much better accessories, such as weather proof housings. that should be enough info overload to get you started. Hope that helps =] -- Alan Rother Macromedia Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX 7 Developer / Former IT specialist at an Security Company ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:239531 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Web Cam - Race Track
Sorry hope I am not taking over this thread but I have a similar thing I need to do... It's not for meetings exactly but for Motorsport Races. One of my Clients owns a Private Country Club but instead of playing Golf they Race Exotic Sports cars on one of three tracks. I developed their website and now the owner would like to have a steaming webcam setup that points at each track to show the activity to the website visitors. Does anyone have any suggestions on the best way to achieve this? I am not sure what his bandwidth is out there but he said he had a full T1 but I find that a lot of times people don't really know what they have and it turns out to be something much slower. But let's say he does have good upstream bandwidth what system that you know of would do this? Thanks for any suggestions... - Neal Bailey - www.Advancedgrafx.com - www.MotorsportRanch.com - www.LonestarClassics.com -Original Message- From: Jim Wright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2006 9:49 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Web Cam On 5/3/06, Eric Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Netmeeeting probably > I wouldn't waste much time on netmeeting...it might be ok for internal use on your campus network, but you have to have some serious holes in your firewall to use it externally...and even then it isn't easy (especially with NAT). Also it has been pretty effectively neutered in XP...it is still there, but you have to know the executable name to find it, and it doesn't have what it needs by default to do video capture anymore. Of course, having shot that down, I don't have a better solution to offer you if you want it in real time...but if not, you might just upload video files of the meetings to something like youtube or google video. Little or no security...but cost effective. -- Jim Wright Wright Business Solutions [EMAIL PROTECTED] 919-417-2257 ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:239528 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
