RE: Wireless (WAP) Resources??

2002-04-28 Thread Ryan Pieszak

Jeffry,
I have the Beginning WAP, WML,  WMLScript book from Wrox (pub. 2000), is
the one you have?  It's been good enough for everything I need.  If you
don't have this one, I would suggest at least paging through it at local
bookstore.
Ryan

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From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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Subject: Wireless (WAP) Resources?? 


  Sorry for the cross-post.

  Are there any resources out there for Wireless development (with or 
without ColdFusion).  I've already looked at wapforum.org.

   The CF Wireless list at Bromby bounces back to me saying that the list 
no longer exists.  My primary interest is in on-line resources, although if 
you want to redirect me to a book or two, I won't be picky.

  I have the wrox beginner's book to WML, which is great although a bit out 
of date.


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RE: Wireless (WAP) Resources??

2002-04-28 Thread Dave Watts

 Are there any resources out there for Wireless development 
 (with or without ColdFusion). I've already looked at wapforum.org.
 
 The CF Wireless list at Bromby bounces back to me saying 
 that the list no longer exists. My primary interest is in 
 on-line resources, although if you want to redirect me to 
 a book or two, I won't be picky.
 
 I have the wrox beginner's book to WML, which is great 
 although a bit out of date.

I don't think things have changed that much since the book came out, have
they? I mean, WML is pretty simple and well-defined, and I don't think that
the specifications have changed much.

The WAP/WML book I've found most useful is Programming Applications with
the Wireless Application Protocol, by Steve Mann, from Wiley:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0471327549/qid=1020023638/sr=1-11/ref
=sr_1_11/104-1952683-0538300

As for Dylan's list, I think it's still up, but it's very low traffic. You
might checkout http://developer.openwave.com/. WML is so ugly, though; if
you can avoid working with it, good for you. It's a niche solution, and I
think it'll quickly be overtaken by better alternatives.

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RE: Wireless (WAP) Resources??

2002-04-28 Thread Ryan Pieszak

Jeffry,
Also, here are some links that I found useful:

http://www.bigwapsite.co.uk/tags.htm
http://www.w3schools.com/wap/default.asp
http://developer.openwave.com/htmldoc/41/wmlref/qkref.html

Hope this helps,
Ryan

-Original Message-
From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2002 3:47 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Wireless (WAP) Resources?? 


  Sorry for the cross-post.

  Are there any resources out there for Wireless development (with or 
without ColdFusion).  I've already looked at wapforum.org.

   The CF Wireless list at Bromby bounces back to me saying that the list 
no longer exists.  My primary interest is in on-line resources, although if 
you want to redirect me to a book or two, I won't be picky.

  I have the wrox beginner's book to WML, which is great although a bit out 
of date.


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RE: Wireless (WAP) Resources??

2002-04-28 Thread Jeffry Houser

  That is exactly the one I have.  It is great.  ;)
  Thanks for the other resources.

At 03:52 PM 4/28/2002 -0400, you wrote:
Jeffry,
I have the Beginning WAP, WML,  WMLScript book from Wrox (pub. 2000), is
the one you have?  It's been good enough for everything I need.  If you
don't have this one, I would suggest at least paging through it at local
bookstore.
Ryan

-Original Message-
From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2002 3:47 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Wireless (WAP) Resources??


   Sorry for the cross-post.

   Are there any resources out there for Wireless development (with or
without ColdFusion).  I've already looked at wapforum.org.

The CF Wireless list at Bromby bounces back to me saying that the list
no longer exists.  My primary interest is in on-line resources, although if
you want to redirect me to a book or two, I won't be picky.

   I have the wrox beginner's book to WML, which is great although a bit out
of date.


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RE: Wireless (WAP) Resources??

2002-04-28 Thread Jeffry Houser

At 04:02 PM 4/28/2002 -0400, you wrote:
  Are there any resources out there for Wireless development
  (with or without ColdFusion). I've already looked at wapforum.org.
 
  The CF Wireless list at Bromby bounces back to me saying
  that the list no longer exists. My primary interest is in
  on-line resources, although if you want to redirect me to
  a book or two, I won't be picky.
 
  I have the wrox beginner's book to WML, which is great
  although a bit out of date.

I don't think things have changed that much since the book came out, have
they? I mean, WML is pretty simple and well-defined, and I don't think that
the specifications have changed much.

  Well, it was written on version 1.2 of the spec.  Version 2.0 was 
released in January.  Based on what I have read, version 2.0 seems to 
support XHTML in addition to WML, which is something worth nothing.  I am 
unsure if there are wireless browsers that yet support the 2.0 standard, 
though.
  Also it seems to focus on an emulator from phone.com, which no longer 
exists.  I can't get any of the examples to work with the openwave SDK.  ( 
-- it could be me, though )

As for Dylan's list, I think it's still up, but it's very low traffic. You
might checkout http://developer.openwave.com/. WML is so ugly, though; if
you can avoid working with it, good for you. It's a niche solution, and I
think it'll quickly be overtaken by better alternatives.



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RE: Wireless (WAP) Resources??

2002-04-28 Thread Dave Watts

 Well, it was written on version 1.2 of the spec. Version 2.0 
 was released in January. Based on what I have read, version 
 2.0 seems to support XHTML in addition to WML, which is 
 something worth nothing. I am unsure if there are wireless 
 browsers that yet support the 2.0 standard, though.

There are some, I suppose, but probably not in the US. We've consistently
lagged behind Europe and Asia with phone technology.

 Also it seems to focus on an emulator from phone.com, which 
 no longer exists.  I can't get any of the examples to work
 with the openwave SDK.  ( -- it could be me, though )

I just downloaded and installed the openwave.com SDK 5.0 version, and I was
able to run my existing WML apps, such as they are. I just sent you an email
through one of them. So, you're probably having the same problems that many
people ran into with the earlier emulator, such as HTTP connectivity
problems or the like.

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RE: Wireless (WAP) Resources??

2002-04-28 Thread Dave Watts

  Also it seems to focus on an emulator from phone.com, which 
  no longer exists.  I can't get any of the examples to work
  with the openwave SDK.  ( -- it could be me, though )
 
 I just downloaded and installed the openwave.com SDK 5.0 
 version, and I was able to run my existing WML apps, such 
 as they are. I just sent you an email through one of them. 
 So, you're probably having the same problems that many
 people ran into with the earlier emulator, such as HTTP 
 connectivity problems or the like.

You might want to enable all of the output windows, and examine their
contents. That'll often tell you what the problem is.

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http://www.figleaf.com/
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RE: Wireless (WAP) Resources??

2002-04-28 Thread Jeffry Houser

At 05:32 PM 4/28/2002 -0400, you wrote:
  Also it seems to focus on an emulator from phone.com, which
  no longer exists.  I can't get any of the examples to work
  with the openwave SDK.  ( -- it could be me, though )

I just downloaded and installed the openwave.com SDK 5.0 version, and I was
able to run my existing WML apps, such as they are. I just sent you an email
through one of them. So, you're probably having the same problems that many
people ran into with the earlier emulator, such as HTTP connectivity
problems or the like.

  I did get your E-mail.
  I discovered that I could get pages to work in the openwave SDK if I set 
the Document Type Definition to version 1.1 instead of version 1.2 or 
version 2.0 .



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