Re: CFset problem
Thanks everyone for your help. I add the val() and it worked perfectly. Now on to my next big coding project. Thanks again and I'm sure that I'll be asking more questions as the time comes. ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 & MX7 integration & create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:268257 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: CFset problem
Your select statement will always return 1 row, and it will either contain the
max number, or ""
So, use:
Select Max(ReqNum) as HighestNumber
from PrintingReq
No need for a cfif, since val("") returns 0
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RE: CFset problem
You probably have a null value coming through...put in an or statement ...or qryHighestNum.highestNumber is ""... So that if it is a null value or no value...it is set to 1 If you want to see where your problem is do a cfdump () that will display your query results. Eric -Original Message- From: Melissa Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 30 January 2007 14:30 To: CF-Talk Subject: CFset problem I've very new to ColdFusion and need some help. I've written a page that has six fields: office, year, number, title, contact and phone number. The first two are hidden fields have a value attached to them and the third changes. The user enters the title, contact and phone number and then the data is entered into a database. The two hidden fields are populated with no problems. For the third field, number, a query is ran to find the highest number in that field and then add one to it to get the next number. When an initial record is in the database everything works perfect however, when the table is empty I get an error message. It says that it cannot convert " " to a number. I even put a cfset statement in there to set the field to 1 but it isn't working. Any ideas? Below is the query to find the highest number and the cfif statement to handle the number. Select Max(ReqNum) as HighestNumber from PrintingReq ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 & MX7 integration & create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:268169 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: CFset problem
Melissa Weber wrote: > > > > > > > It's because the query HAS a recordcount every time, I think - and it's returning " " as the result. So instead of try or . Also you don't need the pound signs in ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 & MX7 integration & create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:268113 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: CFset problem
wrap qryHighestNum.highestNumber in a val() in the event that the argument is an empty string, val() will it as a zero. so: On 1/30/07, Melissa Weber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've very new to ColdFusion and need some help. I've written a page that has > six fields: office, year, number, title, contact and phone number. The > first two are hidden fields have a value attached to them and the third > changes. The user enters the title, contact and phone number and then the > data is entered into a database. The two hidden fields are populated with no > problems. For the third field, number, a query is ran to find the highest > number in that field and then add one to it to get the next number. When an > initial record is in the database everything works perfect however, when the > table is empty I get an error message. > > It says that it cannot convert " " to a number. I even put a cfset statement > in there to set the field to 1 but it isn't working. Any ideas? > > Below is the query to find the highest number and the cfif statement to > handle the number. > > Select Max(ReqNum) as HighestNumber > from PrintingReq > > > > > > > > > ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 & MX7 integration & create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:268112 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: cfset hyperlink
Use single quotes to surround the value of the variable so you can use quotes all you want inside. Eg: -Original Message- From: Teddy Payne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 9:32 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: cfset hyperlink Use the force er function suite that CF can make easier for you. http://www.site.com#chr(34)#>http://www.site.com"> Notice the chr(34), which evaluates the ascii 34 values which is your double quote. Teddy On 9/26/06, James Holmes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The first option would end up with that as a result. > > http://www.site.com"";>http://www.site.com"> > > Inside the CFSET the "" will resolve to " in the string. > > On 9/27/06, Sandra Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If you are using a doctype of xHTML, you need to use double quotes in > your > > html (think of HTML in an xml format which is all xHTML really is. > > -- > CFAJAX docs and other useful articles: > http://www.bifrost.com.au/blog/ > > ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:254370 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: cfset hyperlink
Use the force er function suite that CF can make easier for you. http://www.site.com#chr(34)#>http://www.site.com"> Notice the chr(34), which evaluates the ascii 34 values which is your double quote. Teddy On 9/26/06, James Holmes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The first option would end up with that as a result. > > http://www.site.com"";>http://www.site.com"> > > Inside the CFSET the "" will resolve to " in the string. > > On 9/27/06, Sandra Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If you are using a doctype of xHTML, you need to use double quotes in > your > > html (think of HTML in an xml format which is all xHTML really is. > > -- > CFAJAX docs and other useful articles: > http://www.bifrost.com.au/blog/ > > ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:254363 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: cfset hyperlink
The first option would end up with that as a result. http://www.site.com"";>http://www.site.com"> Inside the CFSET the "" will resolve to " in the string. On 9/27/06, Sandra Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you are using a doctype of xHTML, you need to use double quotes in your > html (think of HTML in an xml format which is all xHTML really is. -- CFAJAX docs and other useful articles: http://www.bifrost.com.au/blog/ ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:254341 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: cfset hyperlink
Use single quotes around the variable text instead of double quotes... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 26 September 2006 10:17 To: CF-Talk Subject: cfset hyperlink All, I thought this would be simple, but it's not working. I want to set a varaible with a string that contains a hyperlink in it. http://www.site.com";>http://www.site.com"> Thoughts? D D ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:254339 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: cfset hyperlink
Look at the XmlFormat/XmlParse/ToString functions for converting from and to entities. > Thanks everyone. I used cfset as an example, but it's actualy going > through an admin tool. It's being store in the database as ... > > Click here to download your free couopn. http://www.site. > com"">http://www.site.com > > it's coming out on the web page as ... > > Click here to download your free coupon. <a > href="test">test</a> > > ? > > Thanks. > > >Use single quotes for one of them... or escape the " quote. > > > >http://www.site.com"";>http://www.site.com"> > > > >Or > > > >http://www.site.com'>http://www.site.com"> > > > >Or > > > >http://www.site.com'>http://www.site.com'> > > > >Or > > > > > >Click here to download your free coupon. >href="http://www.site.com";>http://www.site.com > > > > > >Russ >> ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:254277 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: cfset hyperlink
If you are using a doctype of xHTML, you need to use double quotes in your html (think of HTML in an xml format which is all xHTML really is. Sandra Clark == http://www.shayna.com Training in Cascading Style Sheets and Accessibility -Original Message- From: Russ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 11:43 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: cfset hyperlink Actually my third was supposed to be But I'm not sure how it's different from all the others... What makes it more valid then the other suggestions? Russ > -Original Message- > From: Sandra Clark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 11:26 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: cfset hyperlink > > Your third or fourth suggestions are the best in terms of generating > valid HTML > > > Sandra Clark > == > http://www.shayna.com > Training in Cascading Style Sheets and Accessibility > > > -Original Message- > From: Russ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 11:22 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: cfset hyperlink > > Use single quotes for one of them... or escape the " quote. > > http://www.site.com"";>http://www.site.com"> > > Or > > http://www.site.com'>http://www.site.com"> > > Or > > http://www.site.com'>http://www.site.com'> > > Or > > > Click here to download your free coupon. href="http://www.site.com";>http://www.site.com > > > Russ > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 11:17 AM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: cfset hyperlink > > > > All, > > > > I thought this would be simple, but it's not working. I want to set > > a varaible with a string that contains a hyperlink in it. > > > > http://www.site.com";>http://www.site.com"> > > > > Thoughts? > > > > D > > > > D > > > > > > > > ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:254242 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: cfset hyperlink
Thanks everyone. I used cfset as an example, but it's actualy going through an admin tool. It's being store in the database as ... Click here to download your free couopn. http://www.site.com"";>http://www.site.com it's coming out on the web page as ... Click here to download your free coupon. <a href="test">test</a> ? Thanks. >Use single quotes for one of them... or escape the " quote. > >http://www.site.com"";>http://www.site.com"> > >Or > >http://www.site.com'>http://www.site.com"> > >Or > >http://www.site.com'>http://www.site.com'> > >Or > > >Click here to download your free coupon. href="http://www.site.com";>http://www.site.com > > >Russ >> ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:254238 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: cfset hyperlink
Your third or fourth suggestions are the best in terms of generating valid HTML Sandra Clark == http://www.shayna.com Training in Cascading Style Sheets and Accessibility -Original Message- From: Russ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 11:22 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: cfset hyperlink Use single quotes for one of them... or escape the " quote. http://www.site.com"";>http://www.site.com"> Or http://www.site.com'>http://www.site.com"> Or http://www.site.com'>http://www.site.com'> Or Click here to download your free coupon. http://www.site.com";>http://www.site.com Russ > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 11:17 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: cfset hyperlink > > All, > > I thought this would be simple, but it's not working. I want to set a > varaible with a string that contains a hyperlink in it. > > http://www.site.com";>http://www.site.com"> > > Thoughts? > > D > > D > > ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:254228 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: cfset hyperlink
Use single quotes for one of them... or escape the " quote. http://www.site.com"";>http://www.site.com"> Or http://www.site.com'>http://www.site.com"> Or http://www.site.com'>http://www.site.com'> Or Click here to download your free coupon. http://www.site.com";>http://www.site.com Russ > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 11:17 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: cfset hyperlink > > All, > > I thought this would be simple, but it's not working. I want to > set a varaible with a string that contains a hyperlink in it. > > http://www.site.com";>http://www.site.com"> > > Thoughts? > > D > > D > > ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:254226 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: cfset hyperlink
You need to escape your quote marks - the statement is terminating too early. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 26 September 2006 16:17 > To: CF-Talk > Subject: cfset hyperlink > > All, > > I thought this would be simple, but it's not working. I want to > set a varaible with a string that contains a hyperlink in it. > > http://www.site.com";>http://www.site.com"> > > Thoughts? > > D > > D > > ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:254225 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: cfset hyperlink
Actually my third was supposed to be But I'm not sure how it's different from all the others... What makes it more valid then the other suggestions? Russ > -Original Message- > From: Sandra Clark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 11:26 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: cfset hyperlink > > Your third or fourth suggestions are the best in terms of generating valid > HTML > > > Sandra Clark > == > http://www.shayna.com > Training in Cascading Style Sheets and Accessibility > > > -Original Message- > From: Russ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 11:22 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: cfset hyperlink > > Use single quotes for one of them... or escape the " quote. > > http://www.site.com"";>http://www.site.com"> > > Or > > http://www.site.com'>http://www.site.com"> > > Or > > http://www.site.com'>http://www.site.com'> > > Or > > > Click here to download your free coupon. href="http://www.site.com";>http://www.site.com > > > Russ > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 11:17 AM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: cfset hyperlink > > > > All, > > > > I thought this would be simple, but it's not working. I want to set a > > varaible with a string that contains a hyperlink in it. > > > > http://www.site.com";>http://www.site.com"> > > > > Thoughts? > > > > D > > > > D > > > > > > > > ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:254232 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: cfset dependent on javascript problem
It's Monday...It's a miracle that I thought of that :)
Jonathan Hicks wrote:
> Thanks Jake and Teddy for the help! I'm just using the hidden fields on the
> form method. I should have known to do that, but it's just been a long day
> and my brain's not working right today I guess!
>
>
>
>> if it is a submit button, just put onClick="javascript:confirm('Are you
>> sure...');" and it should handle it all correctly.
>>
>> Jonathan Hicks wrote:
>>
>
>
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Re: cfset dependent on javascript problem
Thanks Jake and Teddy for the help! I'm just using the hidden fields on the
form method. I should have known to do that, but it's just been a long day and
my brain's not working right today I guess!
>if it is a submit button, just put onClick="javascript:confirm('Are you
>sure...');" and it should handle it all correctly.
>
>Jonathan Hicks wrote:
>>
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Re: cfset dependent on javascript problem
if it is a submit button, just put onClick="javascript:confirm('Are you
sure...');" and it should handle it all correctly.
Jonathan Hicks wrote:
> what i'm trying to do is a check from the user. if the user clicks ok, then
> a database update is completed, or if the user clicks cancel, nothing should
> happen. i was trying to set closeboxflag2 to true so that:
>
>
> //perform database update
>
> //do nothing
>
>
> hope that makes sense, thanks for the help!
>
>
>
>> I'm not sure where you are trying to reference closeboxflag2 from but
>>
> >from the looks of your code, you are mixing things that shouldn't be
>
>> mixed. The following works:
>>
>>
>>var closeboxflag = false;
>>var closeboxflag = "";
>>closeboxflag = confirm("Are you sure you want to close?")
>>if (closeboxflag == true) {
>> closeboxflag2 = "true";
>>} else {
>> closeboxflag2 = "false";
>>}
>>
>>
>> Jonathan Hicks wrote:
>>
>
>
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Re: cfset dependent on javascript problem
Javascript cannot the ColdFusion portion of your code based upon
your Javascript conditional logic. Your example will not work and jake was
trying to show you a Javascript way. If the closeboxflag is a form element,
it would be fire some sort of Javascript event to perform what you are
trying to do or perhaps update a hidden form field that will be processed by
a ColdFusion action page.
Teddy
On 9/25/06, Jonathan Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> what i'm trying to do is a check from the user. if the user clicks ok,
> then a database update is completed, or if the user clicks cancel, nothing
> should happen. i was trying to set closeboxflag2 to true so that:
>
>
> //perform database update
>
> //do nothing
>
>
> hope that makes sense, thanks for the help!
>
>
> >I'm not sure where you are trying to reference closeboxflag2 from but
> >from the looks of your code, you are mixing things that shouldn't be
> >mixed. The following works:
> >
> >
> >var closeboxflag = false;
> >var closeboxflag = "";
> >closeboxflag = confirm("Are you sure you want to close?")
> >if (closeboxflag == true) {
> > closeboxflag2 = "true";
> >} else {
> > closeboxflag2 = "false";
> >}
> >
> >
> >Jonathan Hicks wrote:
> >>
>
>
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Re: cfset dependent on javascript problem
what i'm trying to do is a check from the user. if the user clicks ok, then a
database update is completed, or if the user clicks cancel, nothing should
happen. i was trying to set closeboxflag2 to true so that:
//perform database update
//do nothing
hope that makes sense, thanks for the help!
>I'm not sure where you are trying to reference closeboxflag2 from but
>from the looks of your code, you are mixing things that shouldn't be
>mixed. The following works:
>
>
>var closeboxflag = false;
>var closeboxflag = "";
>closeboxflag = confirm("Are you sure you want to close?")
>if (closeboxflag == true) {
> closeboxflag2 = "true";
>} else {
> closeboxflag2 = "false";
>}
>
>
>Jonathan Hicks wrote:
>>
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Re: cfset dependent on javascript problem
I'm not sure where you are trying to reference closeboxflag2 from but
from the looks of your code, you are mixing things that shouldn't be
mixed. The following works:
var closeboxflag = false;
var closeboxflag = "";
closeboxflag = confirm("Are you sure you want to close?")
if (closeboxflag == true) {
closeboxflag2 = "true";
} else {
closeboxflag2 = "false";
}
Jonathan Hicks wrote:
> hi, i was wondering if you could help me with this problem. I need to set
> the variable "closeboxflag2" to "true" only if the user hits the OK button
> from the javascript confirm box, or "false" if the user hits cancel.
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> closeboxflag = confirm("Are you sure you want to close?")
> if (closeboxflag == true) {
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> }
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> Thanks, Jon
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Re: CFSET construct
Thanks to everyone with their help on that, it's all now solved. :) ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:207642 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CFSET construct
Or use . M!ke -Original Message- From: Steven Brownlee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 9:10 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFSET construct It's not ok to have other ColdFusion tags inside a CFSET. You'll have to put the condition outside. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:207638 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CFSET construct
It's not ok to have other ColdFusion tags inside a CFSET. You'll have to put the condition outside. Stuart Kidd wrote: > Hi guys, > > I¹m trying to put together a CFSET construct but am having probs: > > FindMatches.gender eq 'male'>'He''She' & 'may change this in > the near future however.'> > > Could somebody please point out what I am doing wrong, is it not okay to > have ampersands in constructs? > > Thanks, > > Saturday > > > > > ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:207637 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CFSET construct
NO, it's not ok to have nested tags inside a cfset tag, or any other tag for that matter. You could use the IIF function here, but I'm sure there are better ways to do this all around. -- Ian Skinner Web Programmer BloodSource www.BloodSource.org Sacramento, CA "C code. C code run. Run code run. Please!" - Cynthia Dunning -Original Message- From: Stuart Kidd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 7:03 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: CFSET construct Hi guys, I¹m trying to put together a CFSET construct but am having probs: 'He''She' & 'may change this in the near future however.'> Could somebody please point out what I am doing wrong, is it not okay to have ampersands in constructs? Thanks, Saturday ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:207636 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CFSET construct
-Original Message- From: Stuart Kidd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 25 May 2005 16:03 To: CF-Talk Subject: CFSET construct Hi guys, I¹m trying to put together a CFSET construct but am having probs: 'He''She' & 'may change this in the near future however.'> Could somebody please point out what I am doing wrong, is it not okay to have ampersands in constructs? Thanks, Saturday ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:207635 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: cfset or cfparam in cfc?
Which is why I said you can do it with a function. :) So can you ask someone at MM why the validation attributes were not added to the CFARGUMENT tag and if they can be? > On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 16:25:43 -0500, Michael Dinowitz > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I've told people in the past to use CFPARAM to validate the structure of > > their data within a CFC method as a fast 'check'. > > With CFMX 7 I'd be more inclined to use the isValid() function instead > of - a lot depends on what you want the CFC to do if the > argument is invalid... ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:197902 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: cfset or cfparam in cfc?
On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 16:25:43 -0500, Michael Dinowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've told people in the past to use CFPARAM to validate the structure of > their data within a CFC method as a fast 'check'. With CFMX 7 I'd be more inclined to use the isValid() function instead of - a lot depends on what you want the CFC to do if the argument is invalid... -- Sean A Corfield -- http://www.corfield.org/ Team Fusebox -- http://www.fusebox.org/ Breeze Me! -- http://www.corfield.org/breezeme Got Gmail? -- I have 49, yes 49, invites to give away! "If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive." -- Margaret Atwood ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:197899 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: cfset or cfparam in cfc?
CFARGUMENT can validate the data type being passed in and if it exists (as well as give a default value). This copies most of the ability of the CFPARAM tag. On the other hand, the new validation ability of CFPARAM does not exist in CFARGUMENT (oversight?). Of course, you can write the same using functions, but I've told people in the past to use CFPARAM to validate the structure of their data within a CFC method as a fast 'check'. > Really, I don't think that cfparam is as useful inside CFC methods as > it is inside CFM files.I have mostly used to "declare" > attributes to a custom tag or input values to an included file. It > makes sure that required variables exist, and for those that aren't > required it can set default values. It also makes sure that the > values for those variables are of the right type. The > tag serves this purpose for parameters to function calls, removing the > need to use . ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:197896 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: cfset or cfparam in cfc?
Really, I don't think that cfparam is as useful inside CFC methods as it is inside CFM files.I have mostly used to "declare" attributes to a custom tag or input values to an included file. It makes sure that required variables exist, and for those that aren't required it can set default values. It also makes sure that the values for those variables are of the right type. The tag serves this purpose for parameters to function calls, removing the need to use . On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 15:22:34 -0500, Michael Dinowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes. Any time a variable is set inside a CFC method, it should have the var > keyword unless you WANT it to be available to other methods in the CFC (i.e. > you want it to be in the CFC wide variables scope). > This goes for CFPARAM, CFQUERY, and every (every) other location where a > variable is set. > My practice is to do: > > > The question you have to ask yourself is how and why you're using the > CFPARAM tag. > > > > Hi, > > > > I know that when you declare a variable inside a method of cfc, you should > > use the var keyword in front of it to prevent any conflict with variables > > outside of it. That is the case with cfset. What about cfparam? When > > you declare a variable with cfparam, do you have to worry about that? > > > > Johnny > > > > > > ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:197893 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: cfset or cfparam in cfc?
Yes. Any time a variable is set inside a CFC method, it should have the var keyword unless you WANT it to be available to other methods in the CFC (i.e. you want it to be in the CFC wide variables scope). This goes for CFPARAM, CFQUERY, and every (every) other location where a variable is set. My practice is to do: Hi, > > I know that when you declare a variable inside a method of cfc, you should > use the var keyword in front of it to prevent any conflict with variables > outside of it. That is the case with cfset. What about cfparam? When > you declare a variable with cfparam, do you have to worry about that? > > Johnny > > ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:197884 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Slightly OT: XHTML (was Re: cfset ?)
There is no need for XHTML currently, XHTML != Semantics. XHTML is fitted for the job of being extendible, which is currently not possible in IE, also IE can't even handle XHTML (because it does not recognize the required mimetype for XHTML). Better stick to XHTML syntax in quirks, or HTML 4 with valid semantics. Micha Schopman Software Engineer Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 - Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren de interactie met uw doelgroep. Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl - ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193793 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Slightly OT: XHTML (was Re: cfset ?)
Pardon me as I catch up on my CF-Talk reading here... Claude Schneegans wrote: > > >> single tags such as , , etc close themselves (a la ). > > Completely useless, but anyway... Useless looking, but making your pages fully standard XML is an awesome thing. >>>2) all tag attributes must be lowercase. > > This I really hate. Since HTML is actually a mix of several languages like > Javascript, CSS, etc, See, that's where you're wrong. HTML, especially XHTML, isn't a mix of any other languages. Just like you should practice MVC on the server-side, you split your structure (html) from your presentation (css) from your behavior (js) on the client side. They're separate and don't need to be mixed. Here's a couple recent references: http://adactio.com/articles/display.php/this_year's_document_object_model http://www.alistapart.com/articles/scripttriggers/ > and text, I find much clearer to have all tags in upper case, including CFML, > and the rest in lowercase. > It is much easier to separate different parts, especially that text is mostly > lower case. It can be easier to read, uppercased, but it's part of the basics of XML. When you get used to it, lowercase tags are much easier to read, but that's me. -nathan strutz ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193703 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: cfset ?
Creating code that is able to create code! And also validate it up to a certain point.. I see a big value there. -- Taco Fleur Senior Web Systems Engineer http://www.webassociates.com -Original Message- From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 4 February 2005 11:44 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: cfset ? Well, if it was valid XML then you could, in theory, actually parse a cf document as an xml document Not sure what value that would have though. - Calvin -Original Message- From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 6:38 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: cfset ? if its parsed on the server, and it doesnt make it to the browser, anyway, why or how does xhtml compliance matter? -- tony Tony Weeg macromedia certified coldfusion mx developer email: tonyweeg [at] gmail [dot] com blog: http://www.revolutionwebdesign.com/blog/ cool tool: http://www.antiwrap.com ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193249 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Slightly OT: XHTML (was Re: cfset ?)
> you need to create a DTD to encompass all these.. > W3C has a good example.. [XHTMLMOD] Well, we were talking about mime-types not DTD/Schema. BTW you don't need to create a DTD for mixing different XML languages inside the same document, just use different namespaces (I guess we are really OT now...) Massimo Foti DW tools: http://www.massimocorner.com CF tools: http://www.olimpo.ch/tmt/ ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193168 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: cfset ?
yeah i know just given ya a hard time ;) actually i thought u meant xhtml, sorry i gots a hottie on my mind! From: Will Tomlinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 4:10 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: cfset ? No no no!! I was a bit vague with my response there I guess. I AM coding everything xhtml, except those DAMN cfforms are still screwing me!! Friggin in uppercase! Who's the idget that did that anyway?? In speaking of extra keystrokes, I'm talkin about That's useless to me! I'm used to looking at the regular way, which in my mind, keeps consistency. Sorry super dave! THE GAME! ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193147 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: cfset ?
No no no!! I was a bit vague with my response there I guess. I AM coding everything xhtml, except those DAMN cfforms are still screwing me!! Friggin in uppercase! Who's the idget that did that anyway?? In speaking of extra keystrokes, I'm talkin about That's useless to me! I'm used to looking at the regular way, which in my mind, keeps consistency. Sorry super dave! THE GAME! ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193142 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: cfset ?
actually .net will (haha) its really easy to do in dreamweaver! set the default document type to be xhtml compliant in the preferences and then when done with page under commands select fix xhtml. u have to do a few things like adding alt text to images but u should be doing that anyway. a few simple steps really helps cross browser support, if now we could only get m$ to do the right thing and build ie right, it would be awesome! kinda screwwy how msn is now building cssp sites but yet refuse to have their own browser support it properly. hopefully they will get sick of having to hack their code to get it to work in their own browser but not holding my breath. overall, u really should be coding in xhtml! it is really sweet:) so much cleaner, leaner & faster! html is pretty forgiving on crappy, sloppy coding but xhtml is not, so if the browser isnt guessing what to do and can run straight through it, makes it much faster! kinda like calling a key in a structure or array instead of pulling it out of a list, in other words, it knows exactly whats its doing instead of searching, so speed is WHOO HOO! would be hilarious is the net switched to it today! can u see all them frontpage sites take a big ole dooky! on some other boards we were trying to help this guy make his code compliant but he refused to leave frontpage, its was totally amazing that u can not make that code compliant, no matter what u do! good stuff ms! keep up the good work haha From: Will Tomlinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 3:28 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: cfset ? This all translates to tens of thousands of extra keystrokes for me. And being the lazy coder that I am, I'll deem them unecessary! :) Will ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193140 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: cfset ?
This all translates to tens of thousands of extra keystrokes for me. And being the lazy coder that I am, I'll deem them unecessary! :) Will ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193132 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Slightly OT: XHTML (was Re: cfset ?)
you need to create a DTD to encompass all these.. W3C has a good example.. [XHTMLMOD] http://www.w3.org/TR/2002/WD-XHTMLplusMathMLplusSVG-20020809/#ref-xhtmlmodschema frankly I think.. until the XHTML MOD Schema is finalized(working draft now) stuff like this gonna be.. a pain.. unless you are a fan of DTD's Massimo, Tiziana e Federica wrote: > "Micha Schopman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>XHTML in general has to be served as application/xhtml+xml, >>application/xml or text/xml to be valid. So serving the files with a >>mimetype other than the required results in invalid XHTML, although the >>format looks XHTML valid. > > > > I tend to agree (see my CF tools page with a Gekko based browser), but I > feel there is more than that. With XHTML you can create compound documents, > mixing different XML languages inside the same document, like a XHTML file > that contains SVG, MathML or RSS. In such a scenario XHTML may simply act as > a container. How about that? What's the "correct" mime-type for such a kind > of beast? > > I have the feeling a simple mime-type isn't able to express the real nature > of a compound XML document... > > > > Massimo Foti > DW tools: http://www.massimocorner.com > CF tools: http://www.olimpo.ch/tmt/ > > > > > > ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193131 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Slightly OT: XHTML (was Re: cfset ?)
I believe that it's still the XHTML MIME type, because that's what the document acutally, is regardless of what other stuff it might have embedded in it. But you're right, the MIME type is utterly insufficient for describing a compound XML document. cheers, barneyb On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 17:03:18 +0100, Massimo, Tiziana e Federica <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Micha Schopman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > XHTML in general has to be served as application/xhtml+xml, > > application/xml or text/xml to be valid. So serving the files with a > > mimetype other than the required results in invalid XHTML, although the > > format looks XHTML valid. > > I tend to agree (see my CF tools page with a Gekko based browser), but I > feel there is more than that. With XHTML you can create compound documents, > mixing different XML languages inside the same document, like a XHTML file > that contains SVG, MathML or RSS. In such a scenario XHTML may simply act as > a container. How about that? What's the "correct" mime-type for such a kind > of beast? > > I have the feeling a simple mime-type isn't able to express the real nature > of a compound XML document... > > > Massimo Foti > DW tools: http://www.massimocorner.com > CF tools: http://www.olimpo.ch/tmt/ > > > > ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193126 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: cfset ?
>>Will send it right now with the subject RE_Extract. Ah ah! Got it! And it is not marked as spam. ;-) -- ___ REUSE CODE! Use custom tags; See http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags/tagstore.cfm (Please send any spam to this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Thanks. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193110 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: cfset ?
No, I used this address. Will send it right now with the subject RE_Extract. Dan On Thu, 03 Feb 2005 23:07:29 -0500, Claude Schneegans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>Did your email address change? I sent a couple emails about > RE_extract with no reply. > > No, it didn't. > I changed my message reading soft however, (Thunderbird), and it has a spam > filter. > I check it every time it sends something to the thrash however, and I never > saw something > about RE_extract of course. > > I hope you did not use [EMAIL PROTECTED] it is only a spam trap ;-) > > Can you try again ? > > -- > ___ > REUSE CODE! Use custom tags; > See http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags/tagstore.cfm > (Please send any spam to this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) > Thanks. > > ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193105 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Slightly OT: XHTML (was Re: cfset ?)
"Micha Schopman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > XHTML in general has to be served as application/xhtml+xml, > application/xml or text/xml to be valid. So serving the files with a > mimetype other than the required results in invalid XHTML, although the > format looks XHTML valid. I tend to agree (see my CF tools page with a Gekko based browser), but I feel there is more than that. With XHTML you can create compound documents, mixing different XML languages inside the same document, like a XHTML file that contains SVG, MathML or RSS. In such a scenario XHTML may simply act as a container. How about that? What's the "correct" mime-type for such a kind of beast? I have the feeling a simple mime-type isn't able to express the real nature of a compound XML document... Massimo Foti DW tools: http://www.massimocorner.com CF tools: http://www.olimpo.ch/tmt/ ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193096 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: cfset ?
>>Uhhh, the table tags are part of your content. They are the >>structure. The presentation are things like headings Well, I was more thinking of the content (text) as opposed to the presentation in a larger sense, including the container as well. For me, the fact that some text must be laid inside a cell inside a table is part of the presentation scheme for the same reason as bold, italic or strong. >>The perfect example is the tag in HTML. What does it mean? It >>means bold the contained text. That's a presentation concern, not >>part of the content. Exact, this is why I always write , not , in order to better separate it from the content generally in lower case. And this is why I do not like XHTML. >>In XHTML you have the tag. What does >>it mean? The contained text should be 'stronger' than other text. >>That's a semantic concern, not presentation. The you use CSS to >>supply the presentation info appropriate for the medium, based on the >>semantic meaning. I know, this is the philosopy behind SGML and DTDs. -- ___ REUSE CODE! Use custom tags; See http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags/tagstore.cfm (Please send any spam to this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Thanks. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193076 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Slightly OT: XHTML (was Re: cfset ?)
XHTML in general has to be served as application/xhtml+xml, application/xml or text/xml to be valid. So serving the files with a mimetype other than the required results in invalid XHTML, although the format looks XHTML valid. More about this on the blog of Anne, who explains everything in detail and written out. www.annevankesteren.nl Micha Schopman Software Engineer Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 - Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren de interactie met uw doelgroep. Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl - -Original Message- From: Sandy Clark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: vrijdag 4 februari 2005 14:06 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Slightly OT: XHTML (was Re: cfset ?) Actually xHTML works fine in IE provided it is xHTML 1.0 served as text through a mime type of text/html. It's the xhtml served as : application/xhtml+xml, application/xml or text/xml that causes problems in IE.(That's why I can't go to xHTML 1.1 since it has to be served with one of those mime types.) http://www.w3.org/International/articles/serving-xhtml/ Just remember to dump the prolog when serving xHTML (). It throws IE into quirks mode. (Quirks mode = non cross browser rendering compatibility and is not to be desired). Hallelujah! They are listening! Sandy -Original Message- From: Micha Schopman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 2:48 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Slightly OT: XHTML (was Re: cfset ?) XHTML is still unsupported by IE, so if you need to develop for IE, use quirks mode at least, or stick to 4.01 Micha Schopman Software Engineer Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 - Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren de interactie met uw doelgroep. Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl - -Original Message- From: James Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: vrijdag 4 februari 2005 3:53 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Slightly OT: XHTML (was Re: cfset ?) TinyMCE outputs XHTML, so no problems there... -Original Message- From: Michael T. Tangorre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 4 February 2005 10:37 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Slightly OT: XHTML (was Re: cfset ?) > From: Charlie Griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > cleaning up the deprecated tags like and the like will also > really clean up the code (and by putting all of the presentation code > into css, your pages will load that much faster)! > > /me hears ms. clark shout an amen from up north :) I wonder what will happen to all those nifty WYSIWYG editors... I have never been a fan of the HTML they output. ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193065 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Slightly OT: XHTML (was Re: cfset ?)
Dreamweaver also does XHMTL... - Calvin -Original Message- From: James Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 9:53 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Slightly OT: XHTML (was Re: cfset ?) TinyMCE outputs XHTML, so no problems there... -Original Message- From: Michael T. Tangorre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 4 February 2005 10:37 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Slightly OT: XHTML (was Re: cfset ?) > From: Charlie Griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > cleaning up the deprecated tags like and the like will also > really clean up the code (and by putting all of the presentation code > into css, your pages will load that much faster)! > > /me hears ms. clark shout an amen from up north :) I wonder what will happen to all those nifty WYSIWYG editors... I have never been a fan of the HTML they output. ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193061 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: cfset ?
Well, if it was valid XML then you could, in theory, actually parse a cf document as an xml document Not sure what value that would have though. - Calvin -Original Message- From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 6:38 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: cfset ? if its parsed on the server, and it doesnt make it to the browser, anyway, why or how does xhtml compliance matter? -- tony Tony Weeg macromedia certified coldfusion mx developer email: tonyweeg [at] gmail [dot] com blog: http://www.revolutionwebdesign.com/blog/ cool tool: http://www.antiwrap.com ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193060 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: cfset ?
On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 21:39:07 -0800, Barney Boisvert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> It's worth mentioning that you can do all this with HTML as well as
> XHTML. The difference is that with HTML you can choose to do it this
> way, but with XHTML you _have_ to do it this way.
Which, IMO, is a good thing. There's been so much crap HTML code
floating around the web for so long due to lack of standards (or lack
of consequences for deviation from what loose standards existed).
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RE: Slightly OT: XHTML (was Re: cfset ?)
Actually xHTML works fine in IE provided it is xHTML 1.0 served as text through a mime type of text/html. It's the xhtml served as : application/xhtml+xml, application/xml or text/xml that causes problems in IE.(That's why I can't go to xHTML 1.1 since it has to be served with one of those mime types.) http://www.w3.org/International/articles/serving-xhtml/ Just remember to dump the prolog when serving xHTML (). It throws IE into quirks mode. (Quirks mode = non cross browser rendering compatibility and is not to be desired). Hallelujah! They are listening! Sandy -Original Message- From: Micha Schopman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 2:48 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Slightly OT: XHTML (was Re: cfset ?) XHTML is still unsupported by IE, so if you need to develop for IE, use quirks mode at least, or stick to 4.01 Micha Schopman Software Engineer Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 - Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren de interactie met uw doelgroep. Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl - -Original Message- From: James Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: vrijdag 4 februari 2005 3:53 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Slightly OT: XHTML (was Re: cfset ?) TinyMCE outputs XHTML, so no problems there... -Original Message- From: Michael T. Tangorre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 4 February 2005 10:37 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Slightly OT: XHTML (was Re: cfset ?) > From: Charlie Griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > cleaning up the deprecated tags like and the like will also > really clean up the code (and by putting all of the presentation code > into css, your pages will load that much faster)! > > /me hears ms. clark shout an amen from up north :) I wonder what will happen to all those nifty WYSIWYG editors... I have never been a fan of the HTML they output. ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193056 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Slightly OT: XHTML (was Re: cfset ?)
XHTML is still unsupported by IE, so if you need to develop for IE, use quirks mode at least, or stick to 4.01 Micha Schopman Software Engineer Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 - Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren de interactie met uw doelgroep. Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl - -Original Message- From: James Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: vrijdag 4 februari 2005 3:53 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Slightly OT: XHTML (was Re: cfset ?) TinyMCE outputs XHTML, so no problems there... -Original Message- From: Michael T. Tangorre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 4 February 2005 10:37 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Slightly OT: XHTML (was Re: cfset ?) > From: Charlie Griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > cleaning up the deprecated tags like and the like will also > really clean up the code (and by putting all of the presentation code > into css, your pages will load that much faster)! > > /me hears ms. clark shout an amen from up north :) I wonder what will happen to all those nifty WYSIWYG editors... I have never been a fan of the HTML they output. ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193049 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Slightly OT: XHTML (was Re: cfset ?)
>> .. >>3) all attribute values must be in quotes. >> >>that's XHTML in a nutshell. > > > be lowercase, and there are some HTML tags which don't exist in XHTML if I > recall correctly. You are right.. but that's the beauty of XHTML Modularization.. you can easily extend it.. to match whatever you need it to.. one of the most common attribute that is not in the XHTML DTD is "target" and you can add the following to your doctype dec and get ur self a valid XHTML document.. With the coming release of Blackstone (hopefully soon) XHTML and XForms combo is gonna be a killer.. I can't wait.. wishing right now I was on the beta test.. ;) -- Umer Farooq Octadyne Systems +1 (519) 489-1119 voice +1 (519) 635-2795 mobile +1 (530) 326-3586 fax WEB SOLUTIONS FOR NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATION: http://www.Non-ProfitSites.biz WARNING: --- The information contained in this document and attachments is confidential and intended only for the person(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or any other use of the information is strictly prohibited. If you have received this document by mistake, please notify the sender immediately and destroy this document and attachments without making any copy of any kind. ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193048 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: cfset ?
Uhhh, the table tags are part of your content. They are the structure. The presentation are things like headings should be bold and red, cells should have a green background. With HTML, you can embed that stuff in the content (though you don't have to). With XHTML, on the other hand, you simply can't. You have to use CSS to do it. That's the separation of content and presentation. The perfect example is the tag in HTML. What does it mean? It means bold the contained text. That's a presentation concern, not part of the content. In XHTML you have the tag. What does it mean? The contained text should be 'stronger' than other text. That's a semantic concern, not presentation. The you use CSS to supply the presentation info appropriate for the medium, based on the semantic meaning. For visual text, the default presentation of is to bold it. But for aural presentation, you'd use a stronger voice tone. Or perhaps you want it to be both bold and a different color. All this is very simple to do, because you can use the same content for multiple presentations, without having to change the content at all. It's worth mentioning that you can do all this with HTML as well as XHTML. The difference is that with HTML you can choose to do it this way, but with XHTML you _have_ to do it this way. cheers, barneyb On Thu, 03 Feb 2005 23:02:50 -0500, Claude Schneegans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>except it forces you to separate content from presentation, > > This is exactly what bothers me. I feel like it does exactly the > contrary, by imposing tags in lower case. > For me some text here makes much clearer whats part of the > presentation and whats content > than some text here > -- Barney Boisvert [EMAIL PROTECTED] 360.319.6145 http://www.barneyb.com/ Got Gmail? I have 49 invites. ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193047 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: cfset ?
>>Did your email address change? I sent a couple emails about RE_extract with no reply. No, it didn't. I changed my message reading soft however, (Thunderbird), and it has a spam filter. I check it every time it sends something to the thrash however, and I never saw something about RE_extract of course. I hope you did not use [EMAIL PROTECTED] it is only a spam trap ;-) Can you try again ? -- ___ REUSE CODE! Use custom tags; See http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags/tagstore.cfm (Please send any spam to this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Thanks. ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193045 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: cfset ?
>>except it forces you to separate content from presentation, This is exactly what bothers me. I feel like it does exactly the contrary, by imposing tags in lower case. For me some text here makes much clearer whats part of the presentation and whats content than some text here -- ___ REUSE CODE! Use custom tags; See http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags/tagstore.cfm (Please send any spam to this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Thanks. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193043 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Slightly OT: XHTML (was Re: cfset ?)
>>1) all tags must be closed. this includes , , and the like. No problem with that. >> single tags such as , , etc close themselves (a la ). Completely useless, but anyway... >>2) all tag attributes must be lowercase. This I really hate. Since HTML is actually a mix of several languages like Javascript, CSS, etc, and text, I find much clearer to have all tags in upper case, including CFML, and the rest in lowercase. It is much easier to separate different parts, especially that text is mostly lower case. >>3) all attribute values must be in quotes. No problem with that, I use quotes most of the time, -- ___ REUSE CODE! Use custom tags; See http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags/tagstore.cfm (Please send any spam to this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Thanks. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193042 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: cfset ?
Claude, Did your email address change? I sent a couple emails about RE_extract with no reply. Dan On Thu, 03 Feb 2005 20:43:01 -0500, Claude Schneegans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>I like it, because it's consistent with the XHTML I create. > > Ok, but whats the big deal of XHTML after all? > > -- > ___ > REUSE CODE! Use custom tags; > See http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags/tagstore.cfm > (Please send any spam to this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) > Thanks. > > > ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193041 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Slightly OT: XHTML (was Re: cfset ?)
TinyMCE outputs XHTML, so no problems there... -Original Message- From: Michael T. Tangorre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 4 February 2005 10:37 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Slightly OT: XHTML (was Re: cfset ?) > From: Charlie Griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > cleaning up the deprecated tags like and the like will also > really clean up the code (and by putting all of the presentation code > into css, your pages will load that much faster)! > > /me hears ms. clark shout an amen from up north :) I wonder what will happen to all those nifty WYSIWYG editors... I have never been a fan of the HTML they output. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193038 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Slightly OT: XHTML (was Re: cfset ?)
> From: Charlie Griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > cleaning up the deprecated tags like and the like will also > really clean up the code (and by putting all of the presentation code > into css, your pages will load that much faster)! > > /me hears ms. clark shout an amen from up north :) I wonder what will happen to all those nifty WYSIWYG editors... I have never been a fan of the HTML they output. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193037 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Slightly OT: XHTML (was Re: cfset ?)
cleaning up the deprecated tags like and the like will also really clean up the code (and by putting all of the presentation code into css, your pages will load that much faster)! /me hears ms. clark shout an amen from up north :) On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 21:25:00 -0500, Michael T. Tangorre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > From: Charlie Griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > I'm sure Jochem has an RFC or BLT or some such that he'll > > share as well :) > > I'll take two with extra bacon! > > Seriously though... I look forward to when XHTML becomes the norm. > Hopefuylly the results are MUCH BETTER coded pages... I get really sick of > looking at shitty HTML all the time. SOME ALL CAPS, some all lowercase, sOme > MixedcASe organization and standards is where its at. :-) > > > ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193036 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Slightly OT: XHTML (was Re: cfset ?)
> From: Charlie Griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > I'm sure Jochem has an RFC or BLT or some such that he'll > share as well :) I'll take two with extra bacon! Seriously though... I look forward to when XHTML becomes the norm. Hopefuylly the results are MUCH BETTER coded pages... I get really sick of looking at shitty HTML all the time. SOME ALL CAPS, some all lowercase, sOme MixedcASe organization and standards is where its at. :-) ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193035 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: cfset ?
It's the modern HTML standard. HTML 4.0 is still the most common, I'm sure, but XHTML superceeded it. It's not really any different, except it forces you to separate content from presentation, and since it's XML, allows you to do various nifty things in certain situations (such as embedding other XML namespaces, or doing XSL transformations). cheers, barneyb On Thu, 03 Feb 2005 20:43:01 -0500, Claude Schneegans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>I like it, because it's consistent with the XHTML I create. > > Ok, but whats the big deal of XHTML after all? > > -- Barney Boisvert [EMAIL PROTECTED] 360.319.6145 http://www.barneyb.com/ Got Gmail? I have 50 invites. ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193034 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Slightly OT: XHTML (was Re: cfset ?)
> XHTML itself is nothing more than 'well formed' HTML (so if > you wrote 'good HTML', you're in good shape). Basically: > > 1) all tags must be closed. this includes , , > and the like. single tags such as , , etc close > themselves (a la ). > 2) all tag attributes must be lowercase. this includes > events like onclick, onsubmit, etc. > 3) all attribute values must be in quotes. > > that's XHTML in a nutshell. Well, there's a little more than will fit within that nutshell. XHTML isn't HTML at all - it's an XML language that shares many common elements with HTML and it is intended to replace HTML. However, you may have written well-formed HTML that isn't at all XHTML-compliant. Also, element names - what we'd typically call tag names in HTML - must also be lowercase, and there are some HTML tags which don't exist in XHTML if I recall correctly. > I'm sure Jochem has an RFC or BLT or some such that he'll > share as well :) You don't want to get a sandwich in the mail from Europe; trust me on that. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193030 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Slightly OT: XHTML (was Re: cfset ?)
that's a whole 'nother discussion :) the biggest deal is that HTML is going away. There will be no HTML 5. The current (4.whatever) is the last. XHTML is the next standard as defined by the W3C. XHTML itself is nothing more than 'well formed' HTML (so if you wrote 'good HTML', you're in good shape). Basically: 1) all tags must be closed. this includes , , and the like. single tags such as , , etc close themselves (a la ). 2) all tag attributes must be lowercase. this includes events like onclick, onsubmit, etc. 3) all attribute values must be in quotes. that's XHTML in a nutshell. if adhering to standards matters to you, then XHTML should be a big deal. I'm sure Jochem has an RFC or BLT or some such that he'll share as well :) On Thu, 03 Feb 2005 20:43:01 -0500, Claude Schneegans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>I like it, because it's consistent with the XHTML I create. > > Ok, but whats the big deal of XHTML after all? > > -- > ___ > REUSE CODE! Use custom tags; > See http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags/tagstore.cfm > (Please send any spam to this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) > Thanks. > > > ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193029 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: cfset ?
>>I like it, because it's consistent with the XHTML I create. Ok, but whats the big deal of XHTML after all? -- ___ REUSE CODE! Use custom tags; See http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags/tagstore.cfm (Please send any spam to this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Thanks. ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193028 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: cfset ?
CFDUMP (along with 15 or so other tags) are still implemented as custom tags. Just in CFMX they fixed CFDUMP so that it checked executionMode and only does something on the start mode. The tags that are implemented in CFML (though they are encrypted) are in /WEB-INF/cftags. You can add additional templates here as you see fit, and they'll be treated just like built-in tags. cheers, barneyb On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 19:28:03 -0500, Charlie Griefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > coming in late to the thread, but to answer the original (and a few > other) questions: > > 1) yes, it's to maintain consistency since I try to write my HTML > markup in XHTML compliant style/standard. > > 2) no, it doesn't do anything other than give me a warm snuggly > feeling knowing that I've been consistent. there's no harm in doing > it...there's no harm in not doing it. > > 3) in CF 5, outputs twice (since, as I > understand it, in cf 5 was actually a built in custom tag > (feel free to correct me if i understand that wrong)). Other than > that, I've never encountered any other issues with the syntax. > > in a nutshell, i'm just very anal and prefer to maintain the > consistency. I'm one of those purists :) > > Charlie > -- Barney Boisvert [EMAIL PROTECTED] 360.319.6145 http://www.barneyb.com/ Got Gmail? I have 50 invites. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193024 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: cfset ?
coming in late to the thread, but to answer the original (and a few other) questions: 1) yes, it's to maintain consistency since I try to write my HTML markup in XHTML compliant style/standard. 2) no, it doesn't do anything other than give me a warm snuggly feeling knowing that I've been consistent. there's no harm in doing it...there's no harm in not doing it. 3) in CF 5, outputs twice (since, as I understand it, in cf 5 was actually a built in custom tag (feel free to correct me if i understand that wrong)). Other than that, I've never encountered any other issues with the syntax. in a nutshell, i'm just very anal and prefer to maintain the consistency. I'm one of those purists :) Charlie On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 15:58:58 -0800, Barney Boisvert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But if you do that, then you lose all the meaning of the CFIF tag, > because both the true and false blocks are inside the tag. If you > look at the JSTL (JSP Standard Template Library), they have an if tag > (with no option for else or else if) and a choose/when/otherwise tag. > the latter is kind of interesting, it's equivalent to > fi..elseif..else, but it's structured more like switch..case..default: > > > > x is greater than 5 > > > x is equal to 5 > > > x is less than 5 > > > > One alternative (a less desirable one, IMHO) is exemplified in the > Fusebox 4 grammar. It has three tags, IF, TRUE and FALSE, which are > used like this: > > > > It's bigger than 5 > > > It's less than or equal to 5 > > > > For general-purpose coding, the JSTL's pair of conditional constructs > is definitely superior. For application structure descriptors (as > FB4's XML files are) the need for conditional logic should be very > little, so it's construct is suitable and simpler (since they're only > one). > > cheers, > barneyb > > On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 09:45:15 +1000, Taco Fleur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I guess its all just one step towards being compliant with xml, all you > > would have to do to make it really compliant is something like the following > > to get around the issue with cfelse. > > > > > > test > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Taco Fleur > > Senior Web Systems Engineer > > http://www.webassociates.com > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Barney Boisvert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Friday, 4 February 2005 9:25 AM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: Re: cfset ? > > > > Except that CFML isn't XML compliant. CFELSEIF and CFELSE, in particular, > > are an issue. If you use CFSWITCH for all conditionals with more than one > > block, then it'd work (you can still use CFIF without a CFELSE). > > > > cheers, > > barneyb > > > > On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 09:20:43 +1000, Taco Fleur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > Its just to make the code xml compliant, basically you could > > > eventually parse a cfm page and work with it as XML.. > > > > > > -- > > > Taco Fleur > > > Senior Web Systems Engineer > > > http://www.webassociates.com > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Barney Boisvert > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > 360.319.6145 > > http://www.barneyb.com/ > > > > Got Gmail? I have 50 invites. > > > > > > ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193022 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: cfset ?
But if you do that, then you lose all the meaning of the CFIF tag, because both the true and false blocks are inside the tag. If you look at the JSTL (JSP Standard Template Library), they have an if tag (with no option for else or else if) and a choose/when/otherwise tag. the latter is kind of interesting, it's equivalent to fi..elseif..else, but it's structured more like switch..case..default: x is greater than 5 x is equal to 5 x is less than 5 One alternative (a less desirable one, IMHO) is exemplified in the Fusebox 4 grammar. It has three tags, IF, TRUE and FALSE, which are used like this: It's bigger than 5 It's less than or equal to 5 For general-purpose coding, the JSTL's pair of conditional constructs is definitely superior. For application structure descriptors (as FB4's XML files are) the need for conditional logic should be very little, so it's construct is suitable and simpler (since they're only one). cheers, barneyb On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 09:45:15 +1000, Taco Fleur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I guess its all just one step towards being compliant with xml, all you > would have to do to make it really compliant is something like the following > to get around the issue with cfelse. > > > test > > > > > > -- > Taco Fleur > Senior Web Systems Engineer > http://www.webassociates.com > > -Original Message- > From: Barney Boisvert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, 4 February 2005 9:25 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: cfset ? > > Except that CFML isn't XML compliant. CFELSEIF and CFELSE, in particular, > are an issue. If you use CFSWITCH for all conditionals with more than one > block, then it'd work (you can still use CFIF without a CFELSE). > > cheers, > barneyb > > On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 09:20:43 +1000, Taco Fleur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Its just to make the code xml compliant, basically you could > > eventually parse a cfm page and work with it as XML.. > > > > -- > > Taco Fleur > > Senior Web Systems Engineer > > http://www.webassociates.com > > > > > > -- > Barney Boisvert > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 360.319.6145 > http://www.barneyb.com/ > > Got Gmail? I have 50 invites. > > ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193019 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: cfset ?
tHats wHy i was sayin, my first tHougHt was xHtml but it wouldnt matter anyways, tHats wKy i asKed. From: Tony Weeg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 6:42 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: cfset ? if its parsed on the server, and it doesnt make it to the browser, anyway, why or how does xhtml compliance matter? -- tony Tony Weeg macromedia certified coldfusion mx developer email: tonyweeg [at] gmail [dot] com blog: http://www.revolutionwebdesign.com/blog/ cool tool: http://www.antiwrap.com ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193015 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: cfset ?
I guess its all just one step towards being compliant with xml, all you would have to do to make it really compliant is something like the following to get around the issue with cfelse. test -- Taco Fleur Senior Web Systems Engineer http://www.webassociates.com -Original Message- From: Barney Boisvert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 4 February 2005 9:25 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: cfset ? Except that CFML isn't XML compliant. CFELSEIF and CFELSE, in particular, are an issue. If you use CFSWITCH for all conditionals with more than one block, then it'd work (you can still use CFIF without a CFELSE). cheers, barneyb On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 09:20:43 +1000, Taco Fleur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Its just to make the code xml compliant, basically you could > eventually parse a cfm page and work with it as XML.. > > -- > Taco Fleur > Senior Web Systems Engineer > http://www.webassociates.com > > -- Barney Boisvert [EMAIL PROTECTED] 360.319.6145 http://www.barneyb.com/ Got Gmail? I have 50 invites. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193014 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: cfset ?
lol friggin m$ always messin with my head! From: Tony Weeg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 6:43 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: cfset ? and dave, switch your *K* and *H* keys around, someone is effin' with ya! :) tw On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 18:37:40 -0500, Tony Weeg wrote: > if its parsed on the server, and it doesnt make it to the browser, > anyway, why or how does xhtml compliance matter? > > -- > tony > > Tony Weeg > > macromedia certified coldfusion mx developer > email: tonyweeg [at] gmail [dot] com > blog: http://www.revolutionwebdesign.com/blog/ > cool tool: http://www.antiwrap.com > -- tony Tony Weeg macromedia certified coldfusion mx developer email: tonyweeg [at] gmail [dot] com blog: http://www.revolutionwebdesign.com/blog/ cool tool: http://www.antiwrap.com ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193013 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: cfset ?
Yeah, there's no tangible benefit to closing them like that. Pure style. Any CF tag can be closed like that, except, I believe, for CFCOL (used inside CFTABLE). I remember running into some tag that complained, and I think that was it. But other than that, they can all be self-closed like that. cheers, barneyb On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 18:31:38 -0500, dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i can see it as being consistant with xhtml but as far as i know xhtml doesnt > parse cfm code yet. So it wouldnt actually make it compliant but certainly > consistant. > > which i guess would bring up the ? of which tags can be closed like that? > can basically any of them? (except as was noted things such as custom tags). > -- Barney Boisvert [EMAIL PROTECTED] 360.319.6145 http://www.barneyb.com/ Got Gmail? I have 50 invites. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193012 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: cfset ?
> From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > i can see it as being consistant with xhtml but as far as i > know xhtml doesnt parse cfm code yet. So it wouldnt actually > make it compliant but certainly consistant. > > which i guess would bring up the ? of which tags can be > closed like that? can basically any of them? (except as was > noted things such as custom tags). Any tag that does not have an explicit end tag. etc... ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193010 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: cfset ?
and dave, switch your *K* and *H* keys around, someone is effin' with ya! :) tw On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 18:37:40 -0500, Tony Weeg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > if its parsed on the server, and it doesnt make it to the browser, > anyway, why or how does xhtml compliance matter? > > -- > tony > > Tony Weeg > > macromedia certified coldfusion mx developer > email: tonyweeg [at] gmail [dot] com > blog: http://www.revolutionwebdesign.com/blog/ > cool tool: http://www.antiwrap.com > -- tony Tony Weeg macromedia certified coldfusion mx developer email: tonyweeg [at] gmail [dot] com blog: http://www.revolutionwebdesign.com/blog/ cool tool: http://www.antiwrap.com ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193009 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: cfset ?
if its parsed on the server, and it doesnt make it to the browser, anyway, why or how does xhtml compliance matter? -- tony Tony Weeg macromedia certified coldfusion mx developer email: tonyweeg [at] gmail [dot] com blog: http://www.revolutionwebdesign.com/blog/ cool tool: http://www.antiwrap.com ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193008 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: cfset ?
i can see it as being consistant with xhtml but as far as i know xhtml doesnt parse cfm code yet. So it wouldnt actually make it compliant but certainly consistant. which i guess would bring up the ? of which tags can be closed like that? can basically any of them? (except as was noted things such as custom tags). From: Barney Boisvert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 6:24 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: cfset ? It's a personal style thing. I like it, because it's consistent with the XHTML I create. I don't have to think about whether I'm writing CFML or XHTML, I just close every tag. One thing to watch out for, however, is custom tags. The self-close is treated a closing tag, so if your custom tag isn't expecting that, weird problems can arise. In theory, every custom tag will properly check it's executionMode, and react accordingly, possibly by ignoring a close tag that it wasn't expecting, but that's not always the case. The first line will call the custom tag once, with executionMode = "start", while the second line will call the custom tag twice, once with executionMode = "start", and then again with executionMode = "end". This goes for CFMODULE calls as well. cheers, barneyb On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 18:14:19 -0500, dave wrote: > > ok this is dumb but was just curious about something > > i have always done cfsets like suck > > > but i was just browsing through one of charlie griefers articles and i see he > closes the tag, like suck > > > the docs dont mention using a closing tag and i have never seen it before so > just curious > > :) > > -- Barney Boisvert [EMAIL PROTECTED] 360.319.6145 http://www.barneyb.com/ Got Gmail? I have 50 invites. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193005 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: cfset ?
Except that CFML isn't XML compliant. CFELSEIF and CFELSE, in particular, are an issue. If you use CFSWITCH for all conditionals with more than one block, then it'd work (you can still use CFIF without a CFELSE). cheers, barneyb On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 09:20:43 +1000, Taco Fleur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Its just to make the code xml compliant, basically you could eventually > parse a cfm page and work with it as XML.. > > -- > Taco Fleur > Senior Web Systems Engineer > http://www.webassociates.com > > -- Barney Boisvert [EMAIL PROTECTED] 360.319.6145 http://www.barneyb.com/ Got Gmail? I have 50 invites. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193004 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: cfset ?
Its just to make the code xml compliant, basically you could eventually parse a cfm page and work with it as XML.. -- Taco Fleur Senior Web Systems Engineer http://www.webassociates.com -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 4 February 2005 9:14 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: cfset ? ok this is dumb but was just curious about something i have always done cfsets like suck but i was just browsing through one of charlie griefers articles and i see he closes the tag, like suck the docs dont mention using a closing tag and i have never seen it before so just curious :) ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193003 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: cfset ?
It's a personal style thing. I like it, because it's consistent with the XHTML I create. I don't have to think about whether I'm writing CFML or XHTML, I just close every tag. One thing to watch out for, however, is custom tags. The self-close is treated a closing tag, so if your custom tag isn't expecting that, weird problems can arise. In theory, every custom tag will properly check it's executionMode, and react accordingly, possibly by ignoring a close tag that it wasn't expecting, but that's not always the case. The first line will call the custom tag once, with executionMode = "start", while the second line will call the custom tag twice, once with executionMode = "start", and then again with executionMode = "end". This goes for CFMODULE calls as well. cheers, barneyb On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 18:14:19 -0500, dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ok this is dumb but was just curious about something > > i have always done cfsets like suck > > > but i was just browsing through one of charlie griefers articles and i see > he closes the tag, like suck > > > the docs dont mention using a closing tag and i have never seen it before so > just curious > > :) > > -- Barney Boisvert [EMAIL PROTECTED] 360.319.6145 http://www.barneyb.com/ Got Gmail? I have 50 invites. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193002 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: cfset ?
actually that was my first thought but just making sure i wasnt missing anything cause u know how im usually wrong From: "Michael T. Tangorre" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 6:19 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: cfset ? > From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > i have always done cfsets like suck > > > but i was just browsing through one of charlie griefers > articles and i see he closes the tag, like suck > > > the docs dont mention using a closing tag and i have never > seen it before so just curious It is just XHTML style. It is just done for consistancy as the CF is processed by the CF server then sent to the browser so the browser never sees . Mike ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193001 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: cfset ?
to be XHTML compliant I believe. Dan On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 18:14:19 -0500, dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ok this is dumb but was just curious about something > > i have always done cfsets like suck > > > but i was just browsing through one of charlie griefers articles and i see > he closes the tag, like suck > > > the docs dont mention using a closing tag and i have never seen it before so > just curious > > :) > > ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193000 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: cfset ?
Totally not needed but some purists like to put them in. I don't. > ok this is dumb but was just curious about something > > i have always done cfsets like suck > > > but i was just browsing through one of charlie griefers articles and i > see he closes the tag, like suck > > > the docs dont mention using a closing tag and i have never seen it before > so just curious > > :) > > > > > ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:192999 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: cfset ?
> From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > i have always done cfsets like suck > > > but i was just browsing through one of charlie griefers > articles and i see he closes the tag, like suck > > > the docs dont mention using a closing tag and i have never > seen it before so just curious It is just XHTML style. It is just done for consistancy as the CF is processed by the CF server then sent to the browser so the browser never sees . Mike ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:192998 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: cfset vs. cfsavecontent
You're correct, it's not a bug, though it's not necessarily what you'd expect. Just think of CFSETTING as turning on a request-level flag (which affects ALL templates in the request), indicating that nothing should be output. I'd recommend always putting generated content inside CFOUTPUT tags anyway. And yes, that means that if you use CFOUTPUT query="" group="" that you'll have to do some nasty tag nesting. Of course, those loops don't happen a lot (ungrouped loops with CFLOOP are the norm), so it's not a big deal. Cheers, barneyb > -Original Message- > From: Dave Carabetta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 6:58 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: cfset vs. cfsavecontent > > On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 13:18:05 +0200, Hugo Ahlenius > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Personally I am never using CFSETTING ENABLECFOUTPUTONLY, > instead I am > > using cfsilent (for plain templates) and output="no" for > cfc/cffunction. > > > > Since the cfsetting/enabelcfoutputonly is set for the whole request, > > until the cfsetting is changed, I feel that it breaks > encapsulation -- > > one loses control/overview over where it is set and not when using a > > chain of includes. If it is used then I would use it > application-wide, > > but for now I am happy with cfsilent! > > > > I am not using cfsetting in the CFC -- I am using it in the calling > code. In my CFC I have output="false" for the cfcomponent and all my > cffunction tags. So I'm not breaking encapsulation, rather the CF > engine is by applying the cfsetting in my calling code to my CFC as > well. Perhaps this is a bug? That's not a rhetorical question -- I'm > honestly not sure. > > Regards, > Dave. [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: cfset vs. cfsavecontent
> On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 13:18:05 +0200, Hugo Ahlenius > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Personally I am never using CFSETTING ENABLECFOUTPUTONLY, >> instead I am >> using cfsilent (for plain templates) and output="no" for >> cfc/cffunction. >> >> Since the cfsetting/enabelcfoutputonly is set for the >> whole request, >> until the cfsetting is changed, I feel that it breaks >> encapsulation -- >> one loses control/overview over where it is set and not >> when using a >> chain of includes. If it is used then I would use it >> application-wide, >> but for now I am happy with cfsilent! >> > I am not using cfsetting in the CFC -- I am using it in > the calling > code. In my CFC I have output="false" for the cfcomponent > and all my > cffunction tags. So I'm not breaking encapsulation, rather > the CF > engine is by applying the cfsetting in my calling code to > my CFC as > well. Perhaps this is a bug? That's not a rhetorical > question -- I'm > honestly not sure. Well that's why he said it "breaks encapsulation" is because it applies to the entire request -- if you happen to be using cfc's in your request, then by golly, it applies to the CFC because it's part of that request. You can of course choose to reset cfsetting within your cfc methods if you feel you need to. I've been modifying a few of my own templates recently and cosciously adding around some items I might normally not have because I realized that another developer using the onTap framework might have enablecfoutputonly active in their configuration, so I just output around anything I think might get damaged by that. In my case it's not been terribly difficult -- it's only a marginal handful of custom tags being used for their end-tag syntax. s. isaac dealey 954.927.5117 new epoch : isn't it time for a change? add features without fixtures with the onTap open source framework http://www.sys-con.com/story/?storyid=44477&DE=1 [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: cfset vs. cfsavecontent
On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 13:18:05 +0200, Hugo Ahlenius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Personally I am never using CFSETTING ENABLECFOUTPUTONLY, instead I am > using cfsilent (for plain templates) and output="no" for cfc/cffunction. > > Since the cfsetting/enabelcfoutputonly is set for the whole request, > until the cfsetting is changed, I feel that it breaks encapsulation -- > one loses control/overview over where it is set and not when using a > chain of includes. If it is used then I would use it application-wide, > but for now I am happy with cfsilent! > I am not using cfsetting in the CFC -- I am using it in the calling code. In my CFC I have output="false" for the cfcomponent and all my cffunction tags. So I'm not breaking encapsulation, rather the CF engine is by applying the cfsetting in my calling code to my CFC as well. Perhaps this is a bug? That's not a rhetorical question -- I'm honestly not sure. Regards, Dave. [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: cfset vs. cfsavecontent
Personally I am never using CFSETTING ENABLECFOUTPUTONLY, instead I am using cfsilent (for plain templates) and output="no" for cfc/cffunction. Since the cfsetting/enabelcfoutputonly is set for the whole request, until the cfsetting is changed, I feel that it breaks encapsulation -- one loses control/overview over where it is set and not when using a chain of includes. If it is used then I would use it application-wide, but for now I am happy with cfsilent! -- Hugo Ahlenius - Hugo Ahlenius E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Project Officer Phone:+46 8 230460 UNEP GRID-Arendal Fax: +46 8 230441 Stockholm Office Mobile: +46 733 467111 WWW: http://www.grida.no - | -Original Message- | From: Stephen Moretti (cfmaster) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 12:30 | To: CF-Talk | Subject: Re: cfset vs. cfsavecontent | | Dave Carabetta wrote: | | > > | > > When I wrapped a CFSETTING ENABLECFOUTPUTONLY around it, though, I | > got the | > > same error you did. | > | > Interesting. On a hunch after looking through your sample above, I | > switched back to cfxml and simply put cfoutput after the | opening cfxml | > and before the closing cfxml tag, and then did a cfreturn | > toString(xmlObject) and it worked fine. | > | > At this point, I guess I need to settle on what's more | intuitive for | > the developer who comes after me, but that's a different matter. | > | I haven't tested this, but have you tried using cfsilent | instead of "cfsetting enablecfoutputonly"? | | It may allow cfxml to work correctly without need to wrap it | in cfoutput. | | Just a thought of something to try. | | Stephen | | | [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: cfset vs. cfsavecontent
Dave Carabetta wrote: > > > > When I wrapped a CFSETTING ENABLECFOUTPUTONLY around it, though, I > got the > > same error you did. > > Interesting. On a hunch after looking through your sample above, I > switched back to cfxml and simply put cfoutput after the opening cfxml > and before the closing cfxml tag, and then did a cfreturn > toString(xmlObject) and it worked fine. > > At this point, I guess I need to settle on what's more intuitive for > the developer who comes after me, but that's a different matter. > I haven't tested this, but have you tried using cfsilent instead of "cfsetting enablecfoutputonly"? It may allow cfxml to work correctly without need to wrap it in cfoutput. Just a thought of something to try. Stephen [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: cfset vs. cfsavecontent
On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 17:26:07 -0400, S. Isaac Dealey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It does that because the features (cfsetting and cfsavecontent) are > encapsulated from each other... cfsavecontent in particular doesn't do > anything other than examine what's put into the output buffer and > capture it out into a variable. So when you have cfsetting set to > disable content to the buffer outside of cfoutput, no data reaches the > buffer and therefore cfsavecontent doesn't "see" anything to capture. > It is the same as if you were to put this in a custom tag: > > > > > > > If nothing reaches the server's output buffer, then the > thistag.generatedcontent variable would be empty, and cfsavecontent is > the same way. > Yeah, that's right in line with what Dave Watts said. I didn't realize that these tags were implemented as custom tags (relative to other tags like cfhttp). Knowing that makes all the difference. Regards, Dave. [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
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On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 17:32:35 -0400, Dave Watts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I was trying to use that (that was my first attempt), but I
> > kept getting a "Document root element is missing" error using
> > the code below. If you happen to see anything wrong with the
> > below syntax, I'm all eyes, as that's the cleanest way to
> > write the code (mind you, I have no control over the XML
> > syntax, as it's the 3rd party's product).
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> > TOOL(PropertyCSV)/DATA_FILE
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> > #Variables.instance['CONSTANTS'].get('baseConfigFileMap
> > pedDrive')#\\#Variables.instance["CORPORATEID"]#\\#Arguments.f
> > ileName#
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> > TOOL(PropertyResults)/DATA_FILE
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> > #Variables.instance['CONSTANTS'].get('baseConfigFileMap
> > pedDrive')#\\#Variables.instance["CORPORATEID"]#\\#Arguments.f
> > ileName#_Geocoded.csv
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> When I wrapped a CFSETTING ENABLECFOUTPUTONLY around it, though, I got the
> same error you did.
Interesting. On a hunch after looking through your sample above, I
switched back to cfxml and simply put cfoutput after the opening cfxml
and before the closing cfxml tag, and then did a cfreturn
toString(xmlObject) and it worked fine.
At this point, I guess I need to settle on what's more intuitive for
the developer who comes after me, but that's a different matter.
Thanks for taking the time to help.
Regards,
Dave.
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RE: cfset vs. cfsavecontent
CFSETTING CFOUTPUTONLY="true" isn't stopping information from being sent to
the HTML stream, but rather it's stopping output from happening at all
(regardless if you'll catch the output before it hits the stream with your
application code).
I haven't checked a compiled template, but I'd imagine every time out output
something (static or dynamic), it ends up in a construct something like
this:
if (! request.isOutputSuppressed)
out.write("my content");
In other words, before your compiled CF template will output anything, it'll
check to see if output is being suppressed, and if so, skip the outputting.
To get the behaviour you think is more intuitive, CF would have to output
everything, but somehow mark the sections that are within CFSETTING tags,
and then after your code is done generating the request, process the
generated content, and trim out all the bits that were marked as "to be
ignored".
Cheers,
barneyb
> -Original Message-
> From: Dave Carabetta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 2:14 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: cfset vs. cfsavecontent
>
> On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 14:02:33 -0700, Barney Boisvert
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > You have output disabled with CFSETTING? If so, you'll
> need to wrap the
> > CFSAVECONTENT in a CFOUTPUT if you want the text to display.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > barneyb
> >
>
> Thanks Barney, that was it. Out of curiosity, isn't that a bit
> counter-intuitive? I mean, the whole purpose (in this case, at least)
> is to write the contents to a variable to pass back from my CFC. If
> I'm not writing anything to the output stream in cfsavecontent call
> itself, why do I need the cfoutputs? Just curious.
>
> Thanks again.
>
> Regards,
> Dave.
>
>
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Re: cfset vs. cfsavecontent
On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 14:23:16 -0700, Ian Skinner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Not 100% sure, but my first guess would be an arrant blank line. > > > > > > encoding="UTF-8" standalone="no"?> > > > seen/used with the cfxml tag cared if the root node was on the same line as the opening cfxml tag, and they seem to work fine. However, white space does indeed matter with cfsavecontent in my situation, which is why I have the opening declaration on the same line as the opening cfsavecontent. [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: cfset vs. cfsavecontent
> On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 14:02:33 -0700, Barney Boisvert > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> You have output disabled with CFSETTING? If so, you'll >> need to wrap the >> CFSAVECONTENT in a CFOUTPUT if you want the text to >> display. >> >> Cheers, >> barneyb >> > Thanks Barney, that was it. Out of curiosity, isn't that a > bit > counter-intuitive? I mean, the whole purpose (in this > case, at least) > is to write the contents to a variable to pass back from > my CFC. If > I'm not writing anything to the output stream in > cfsavecontent call > itself, why do I need the cfoutputs? Just curious. It does that because the features (cfsetting and cfsavecontent) are encapsulated from each other... cfsavecontent in particular doesn't do anything other than examine what's put into the output buffer and capture it out into a variable. So when you have cfsetting set to disable content to the buffer outside of cfoutput, no data reaches the buffer and therefore cfsavecontent doesn't "see" anything to capture. It is the same as if you were to put this in a custom tag: If nothing reaches the server's output buffer, then the thistag.generatedcontent variable would be empty, and cfsavecontent is the same way. hth s. isaac dealey 954.927.5117 new epoch : isn't it time for a change? add features without fixtures with the onTap open source framework http://www.sys-con.com/story/?storyid=44477&DE=1 [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: cfset vs. cfsavecontent
> I was trying to use that (that was my first attempt), but I
> kept getting a "Document root element is missing" error using
> the code below. If you happen to see anything wrong with the
> below syntax, I'm all eyes, as that's the cleanest way to
> write the code (mind you, I have no control over the XML
> syntax, as it's the 3rd party's product).
>
>
>
>
> TOOL(PropertyCSV)/DATA_FILE
>
> #Variables.instance['CONSTANTS'].get('baseConfigFileMap
> pedDrive')#\\#Variables.instance["CORPORATEID"]#\\#Arguments.f
> ileName#
>
>
>
> TOOL(PropertyResults)/DATA_FILE
>
> #Variables.instance['CONSTANTS'].get('baseConfigFileMap
> pedDrive')#\\#Variables.instance["CORPORATEID"]#\\#Arguments.f
> ileName#_Geocoded.csv
>
>
>
I was able to run this ok:
CFXML test
TOOL(PropertyCSV)/DATA_FILE
test
TOOL(PropertyResults)/DATA_FILE
test
When I wrapped a CFSETTING ENABLECFOUTPUTONLY around it, though, I got the
same error you did.
Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
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Not 100% sure, but my first guess would be an arrant blank line. encoding="UTF-8" standalone="no"?> standalone="no"?> [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: cfset vs. cfsavecontent
> Thanks Barney, that was it. Out of curiosity, isn't that a > bit counter-intuitive? I mean, the whole purpose (in this > case, at least) is to write the contents to a variable to > pass back from my CFC. If I'm not writing anything to the > output stream in cfsavecontent call itself, why do I need the > cfoutputs? Just curious. The CFSAVECONTENT tag is implemented as a custom tag, I think - if you look in WEB-INF\cftags, there's a file there called savecontent.cfm. I suspect it has something to do with that. If you were writing your own custom tag to do the same thing, you'd typically have some line like this: I suspect the first part of that might not work in a CFSETTING block with output disabled. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ phone: 202-797-5496 fax: 202-797-5444 [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: cfset vs. cfsavecontent
On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 14:02:33 -0700, Barney Boisvert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You have output disabled with CFSETTING? If so, you'll need to wrap the > CFSAVECONTENT in a CFOUTPUT if you want the text to display. > > Cheers, > barneyb > Thanks Barney, that was it. Out of curiosity, isn't that a bit counter-intuitive? I mean, the whole purpose (in this case, at least) is to write the contents to a variable to pass back from my CFC. If I'm not writing anything to the output stream in cfsavecontent call itself, why do I need the cfoutputs? Just curious. Thanks again. Regards, Dave. [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: cfset vs. cfsavecontent
On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 17:11:27 -0400, Dave Watts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I have a CFC where I'm writing the contents of a config file
> > for a 3rd party engine. However, if I use cfsavecontent (my
> > preferred approach), the XML string never gets written.
>
> Why not just use the CFXML tag? That's exactly what it's for, I think.
>
I was trying to use that (that was my first attempt), but I kept
getting a "Document root element is missing" error using the code
below. If you happen to see anything wrong with the below syntax, I'm
all eyes, as that's the cleanest way to write the code (mind you, I
have no control over the XML syntax, as it's the 3rd party's product).
TOOL(PropertyCSV)/DATA_FILE
#Variables.instance['CONSTANTS'].get('baseConfigFileMappedDrive')#\\#Variables.instance["CORPORATEID"]#\\#Arguments.fileName#
TOOL(PropertyResults)/DATA_FILE
#Variables.instance['CONSTANTS'].get('baseConfigFileMappedDrive')#\\#Variables.instance["CORPORATEID"]#\\#Arguments.fileName#_Geocoded.csv
Regards,
Dave.
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> I have a CFC where I'm writing the contents of a config file > for a 3rd party engine. However, if I use cfsavecontent (my > preferred approach), the XML string never gets written. Why not just use the CFXML tag? That's exactly what it's for, I think. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ phone: 202-797-5496 fax: 202-797-5444 [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
