Re: CFFILE Upload file restrictions (was Re: fck editor 2.0 RC)
Aieee. So it does. I thought there was something more to CFFILE ACCEPT than that but a quick RTFM plainly says otherwise. So much for that. Never mind. :-) -- --Matt Robertson-- President, Janitor MSB Designs, Inc. mysecretbase.com ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Silver Sponsor - New Atlanta http://www.newatlanta.com Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:187455 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: fck editor 2.0 RC
I think soEditor is discontinuing the free version with the upcoming release of the new version of the editor. They still support the previously distributed free versions. Dan On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 09:49:27 -0800, Barney Boisvert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't speak for FCK editor (does anyone else read that in a profane manner every time they see it?), but soEditor and HTMLArea both can have their image insert easily augmented to either include a browser for existing images uploaded to the system, or to have a full fledges manager for adding, editing and deleting images, as well as selection of one for insertion. I usually use both, with the picker loading by default, and a link to the full-on manager. cheers, barneyb On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 10:04:48 -0500, Rick Root [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Irvin Gomez wrote: Use TinyMCE. It's much simpler. http://tinymce.moxiecode.com/ Looks nice, but regular (non-technical) users would have problems inserting images. That was always my beef with a lot of the editors that don't include such functionality it's hard to ask users to type in the URL of an image on their server. htmlArea was the same way - I ended up adding a second image button to the toolbar that launched my own image browser. That's why I switched to FCKeditor... it had the browse and upload built into the main image dialog. tinymce might be nice for a message board utility or something where you only want users to enter basic html, but as a full-featured editor, it is definately lacking in the ease of use department if you ask me. - Rick -- Barney Boisvert [EMAIL PROTECTED] 360.319.6145 http://www.barneyb.com/blog/ ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Gold Sponsor - CFHosting.net http://www.cfhosting.net Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:187447 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: fck editor 2.0 RC
Yah, it was 1.6 that I tested. I see that 2.0 has changed. Whew. - Original Message - From: Matt Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 10, 2004 5:41 PM Subject: Re: fck editor 2.0 RC With FCKEditor? I get all spans. Or are you using 1.6? Don't know what that one does offhand, although I've been using it for over a year :-D -- --Matt Robertson-- President, Janitor MSB Designs, Inc. mysecretbase.com ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Silver Sponsor - New Atlanta http://www.newatlanta.com Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:187347 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: fck editor 2.0 RC
If you are worried about cfm files being uploaded, I suggest you put all uploaded files under the root and cfcontent them for display in a page. -Adam On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 10:42:55 -0800, Matt Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But isn't the CFFILE ACCEPT parameter a more sound way to govern file acceptability than a simple extension check? Sure on any given day anything can be spoofed, but someone with a much higher knowledge level would have to be making the attempt. I've seen literally dozens of attempts to send up bad file types, followed by manipulation of the extension (I set up the uploader to email me when such things happen, with details). These aren't malicious users, but dopey, headstrong ones who want to get their way or think the program is broken and they have this magic way to fix it (instead they got a supervisory reprimand in their employee jackets). They were typical cms users: staffers with just barely enough knowledge to be dangerous, but no more. If I'm understanding you right and you're only doing extension checks it just seems that you're not using an important feature of cffile. Using both features would be ideal but on a given day with a typical user I'd say cffile accept= was a lot more powerful piece of protection. -- --Matt Robertson-- President, Janitor MSB Designs, Inc. mysecretbase.com ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Gold Sponsor - CFHosting.net http://www.cfhosting.net Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:187350 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: fck editor 2.0 RC
Rick, CFFM only disallows extensions? It doesn't do MIME checking? As in cffile's ACCEPT parameter? The uploader I wrote for FCK 1.x added mime type checking. Rather than disallowing a specific list, it was then able to only *allow* a specific list. Not the same thing and a better way to go imho. I also used cgi.content_length to limit file upload size. Imperfect I know (the file has to arrive at the server in tmp form to measure it) but the best I could do. What I did was allow the developer to specify a list of acceptable MIME types, comma-delimited, which then defined what images could be uploaded in the image dialog, and what files could be uploaded in the link dialog. That link dialog is something that hasn't gotten any attention here and is a huge boon. Lets users upload pdfs, word docs, whatever you specify in your acceptable MIME type list. Its something my users had been screaming for literally for years and one of the major elements in deciding to start relying on FCKEditor. -- --Matt Robertson-- President, Janitor MSB Designs, Inc. mysecretbase.com ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Gold Sponsor - CFHosting.net http://www.cfhosting.net Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:187269 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: fck editor 2.0 RC
Matt Robertson wrote: CFFM only disallows extensions? It doesn't do MIME checking? As in cffile's ACCEPT parameter? Since the browser is really what determines the mime type, couldn't I configure my system to think that .cfm files were of type image/jpeg? Thus allowing me to upload .cfm files to the server? At the very least, you could hack around with perl to do a file upload with a faked mime type header At least with extension monitoring, if a .cfm file gets on the server, it gets the axe. Additionally, when unzipping files on the server or creating new files on the server (as CFFM allows users to do), there are no mime types. Oh, and I just released 0.98b which includes the allowedExtensions configuration option. So you can restrict uploads to just .gif, .png, jpg, etc.. - Rick ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Silver Sponsor - New Atlanta http://www.newatlanta.com Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:187271 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: fck editor 2.0 RC
But isn't the CFFILE ACCEPT parameter a more sound way to govern file acceptability than a simple extension check? Sure on any given day anything can be spoofed, but someone with a much higher knowledge level would have to be making the attempt. I've seen literally dozens of attempts to send up bad file types, followed by manipulation of the extension (I set up the uploader to email me when such things happen, with details). These aren't malicious users, but dopey, headstrong ones who want to get their way or think the program is broken and they have this magic way to fix it (instead they got a supervisory reprimand in their employee jackets). They were typical cms users: staffers with just barely enough knowledge to be dangerous, but no more. If I'm understanding you right and you're only doing extension checks it just seems that you're not using an important feature of cffile. Using both features would be ideal but on a given day with a typical user I'd say cffile accept= was a lot more powerful piece of protection. -- --Matt Robertson-- President, Janitor MSB Designs, Inc. mysecretbase.com ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Gold Sponsor - CFHosting.net http://www.cfhosting.net Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:187276 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
CFFILE Upload file restrictions (was Re: fck editor 2.0 RC)
Matt Robertson wrote: If I'm understanding you right and you're only doing extension checks it just seems that you're not using an important feature of cffile. Using both features would be ideal but on a given day with a typical user I'd say cffile accept= was a lot more powerful piece of protection. According to macromedia documentation, the browser uses the file extension to determine the mime type. What are you trying to protect against? The only difference I see is that I specify jpg,jpe,jpeg,jpeg, while you would specify image/jpeg,image/pjpeg The other difference I see is that if I were only checking mime types, I could easily upload a .cfm by making my computer think .cfm was image/jpeg. If I were only checking extensions, then I could NEVER upload a .cfm file. That seems more secure to me. - Rick ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Silver Sponsor - RUWebby http://www.ruwebby.com Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:187311 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: fck editor 2.0 RC
Is this just me? I'm on a 512KB ADSL line - not the fastest that exists, but faster than a lot of the users. Mike: Sounds like a problem with the FCKeditor site as much as anything. For me, the demo loads in 13 seconds from fckeditor.net... and when installed on my server, FCK loads in 3 seconds. (Far quicker than both soEditor and HTMLarea, both of which I've used over the years.) -- Roger Benningfield JournURL: http://journurl.com/ blog: http://admin.support.journurl.com/ ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Silver Sponsor - CFDynamics http://www.cfdynamics.com Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:187213 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: fck editor 2.0 RC
Any of you guys have any experience with ActivEdit? I have been using it and these new editors you are mentioning which by the way load fast on my system have only one problem which is the user has to type in their url to an image. I really like the way ActivEdit handles this, but it certainly doesn't have the same price tag as the FCKeditor ;) Terry Troxel - Original Message - From: Roger B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2004 10:32 AM Subject: RE: fck editor 2.0 RC Is this just me? I'm on a 512KB ADSL line - not the fastest that exists, but faster than a lot of the users. Mike: Sounds like a problem with the FCKeditor site as much as anything. For me, the demo loads in 13 seconds from fckeditor.net... and when installed on my server, FCK loads in 3 seconds. (Far quicker than both soEditor and HTMLarea, both of which I've used over the years.) -- Roger Benningfield JournURL: http://journurl.com/ blog: http://admin.support.journurl.com/ ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Silver Sponsor - RUWebby http://www.ruwebby.com Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:187218 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: fck editor 2.0 RC
Terry Troxel wrote: Any of you guys have any experience with ActivEdit? Used it a long long time ago. Bought one license soon after discovered that there were free alternatives, and I switched to htmlArea, which I actually liked better, and I like FCKeditor better than that.. I didn't like the idea of paying a per-domain licensing fee for ActivEdit when better free solutions existed. - Rick ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Gold Sponsor - CFHosting.net http://www.cfhosting.net Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:187233 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: fck editor 2.0 RC
Terry Troxel wrote: I agree, but you didn't answer my question concerning what do you do to handle your users uploading files to use in the editor? fckeditor's image dialog has a browse server button that launches pretty much whatever you want. In my case, it launches a modified version of CFFM ( http://www.webworksllc.com/cffm ), which allows them to select an image already on the server, or upload new files, and manipulate images (resize, scale, rotate, flip, flop). I've just had a thought! Currently, CFFM only has a configure option for disallowed file extensions. I guess it might be wise to also offer the ability to allow only certain extensions.. like gif,png,jpg, so that people could only upload web image files. - Rick ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Silver Sponsor - New Atlanta http://www.newatlanta.com Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:187238 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: fck editor 2.0 RC
Mike, FCKEditor includes an image picker, but pretty much leaves the uploader part up to you to code for yourself. It really is a great, well thought-out tool. -Joe On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 16:44:26 +1100, Mike Kear [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure it's such a great idea to have image upload included as part of the editor. When someone uploads to my system, I want to process it myself, using my own specs - resize images, make sure they're only images and not anything else a bit more sinister, put the images where i think they ought to be based on the form contents etc. I'd like to see an image picker, where the user can select from a library of previously uploaded images, and by clicking on it, it inserts into the WYSIWYG text with the proper styles attached to it (floatright, floatleft etc) picked from a drop down list determined by the style sheet for the site All the editors I've seen concentrate on building in uploaders, and ignore the image picker side of it. Is it harder to do that or something? Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com .com,.net,.org domains from AUD$20/Year On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 20:09:31 -0500, Adrocknaphobia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I mean 1.6 On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 20:09:25 -0500, Adrocknaphobia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm using 1.5 and had to do a bit of coding to get clean XHTML and replace the 'class' drop down with a 'tag' drop down. IE instead of span class=header1 I now get h1. -Adam ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Gold Sponsor - CFHosting.net http://www.cfhosting.net Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:187192 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: fck editor 2.0 RC
Thanks Joe. All the other comments I'd seen about it said it included the upload. I dont want that - I want to use CFFILE and CFX_Image to process images and prevent non-images. Does anyone else find these gadgets slow to load? I just went to the FCKEditor's site and found it took 48 seconds to finish loading the page with the basic editor in it. I tried FCKEditor about 18 months ago and gave up on it for the same reason. I ended up using SPAW-CF on one site and I'm disappointed with that too because (amongst other things) it takes to long to load. I find i have users trying to enter stuff before it's finished loading all teh toolbars and gettting annoyed because it makes a mess of their data unless they wait the whole 40-60 seconds for it to load. Is this just me? I'm on a 512KB ADSL line - not the fastest that exists, but faster than a lot of the users. Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com .com,.net,.org domains from AUD$20/Year On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 05:33:41 -0800, Joe Rinehart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mike, FCKEditor includes an image picker, but pretty much leaves the uploader part up to you to code for yourself. It really is a great, well thought-out tool. -Joe ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Silver Sponsor - New Atlanta http://www.newatlanta.com Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:187195 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: fck editor 2.0 RC
Mike Kear wrote: Is this just me? I'm on a 512KB ADSL line - not the fastest that exists, but faster than a lot of the users. the demo loaded in about 10 seconds for me. In my publishing system, where I load 2 fckeditor instances, the total page load time was about 6 seconds. Both are acceptable to me, since I need a full-featured HTML editor, and they all tend to load a little slowly, with each button loading, plus several javascript files sometimes. For what it's worth, the tinymce full featured demo took 8 seconds to load. - Rick ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Silver Sponsor - New Atlanta http://www.newatlanta.com Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:187232 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: fck editor 2.0 RC
I agree, but you didn't answer my question concerning what do you do to handle your users uploading files to use in the editor? - Original Message - From: Rick Root [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2004 1:49 PM Subject: Re: fck editor 2.0 RC Terry Troxel wrote: Any of you guys have any experience with ActivEdit? Used it a long long time ago. Bought one license soon after discovered that there were free alternatives, and I switched to htmlArea, which I actually liked better, and I like FCKeditor better than that.. I didn't like the idea of paying a per-domain licensing fee for ActivEdit when better free solutions existed. - Rick ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Silver Sponsor - New Atlanta http://www.newatlanta.com Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:187235 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: fck editor 2.0 RC
Okay. Thanks! -d - Original Message - From: Matt Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 7:14 PM Subject: Re: fck editor 2.0 RC As for using the simpler toolbar options - look at fckconfig.js or something. Thats it all right. its that .js file that controls the look of the tool. Just add or remove toolbar items to one of the two existing ones, or better yet build your own new toolbar type and specify it in your editor call. -- --Matt Robertson-- President, Janitor MSB Designs, Inc. mysecretbase.com ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Gold Sponsor - CFHosting.net http://www.cfhosting.net Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:186969 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: fck editor 2.0 RC
Irvin Gomez wrote: Use TinyMCE. It's much simpler. http://tinymce.moxiecode.com/ Looks nice, but regular (non-technical) users would have problems inserting images. That was always my beef with a lot of the editors that don't include such functionality it's hard to ask users to type in the URL of an image on their server. htmlArea was the same way - I ended up adding a second image button to the toolbar that launched my own image browser. That's why I switched to FCKeditor... it had the browse and upload built into the main image dialog. tinymce might be nice for a message board utility or something where you only want users to enter basic html, but as a full-featured editor, it is definately lacking in the ease of use department if you ask me. - Rick ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Silver Sponsor - RUWebby http://www.ruwebby.com Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:186977 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: fck editor 2.0 RC
Mark Drew wrote: You let users enter LOTS of HTML? :-O as for the images... inline in the content?!??! ye gads... your users must be drunk with power!!! My users generally maintain their own content. If they want an image in the content, then they put an image in. My clients like not having to call me to make changes. but seriously.. how do you then strip out the content? Strip it out of what? They're not editing the template, they're just editing the content of the page. Haven't you ever been to a web site that had an image in the content of the page? What I DO like about tinyMCE is the installation seems to be very easy cd admin unzip fck.zip modify fckconfig.js if necessary Add a few simple lines of code to the page on which your editor is to appear. I found the installation process to be incredibly easy. But I guess we've started an editor war. COMMODORE 64 ROCKS! ATARI SUX! - Rick ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Silver Sponsor - New Atlanta http://www.newatlanta.com Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:187006 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: fck editor 2.0 RC
I can't speak for FCK editor (does anyone else read that in a profane manner every time they see it?), but soEditor and HTMLArea both can have their image insert easily augmented to either include a browser for existing images uploaded to the system, or to have a full fledges manager for adding, editing and deleting images, as well as selection of one for insertion. I usually use both, with the picker loading by default, and a link to the full-on manager. cheers, barneyb On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 10:04:48 -0500, Rick Root [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Irvin Gomez wrote: Use TinyMCE. It's much simpler. http://tinymce.moxiecode.com/ Looks nice, but regular (non-technical) users would have problems inserting images. That was always my beef with a lot of the editors that don't include such functionality it's hard to ask users to type in the URL of an image on their server. htmlArea was the same way - I ended up adding a second image button to the toolbar that launched my own image browser. That's why I switched to FCKeditor... it had the browse and upload built into the main image dialog. tinymce might be nice for a message board utility or something where you only want users to enter basic html, but as a full-featured editor, it is definately lacking in the ease of use department if you ask me. - Rick -- Barney Boisvert [EMAIL PROTECTED] 360.319.6145 http://www.barneyb.com/blog/ ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Gold Sponsor - CFHosting.net http://www.cfhosting.net Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:187044 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: fck editor 2.0 RC
Barney Boisvert wrote: I can't speak for FCK editor (does anyone else read that in a profane manner every time they see it?), Yes. But until you mentioned it I hadn't noticed I was doing that in my mind. :) -- --Lewis Sellers (AKA min) Intrafoundation Software http://www.intrafoundation.com ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Silver Sponsor - New Atlanta http://www.newatlanta.com Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:187049 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: fck editor 2.0 RC
What Rick said. Except the part about the Commodore. Trash 80! -- --Matt Robertson-- President, Janitor MSB Designs, Inc. mysecretbase.com ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Silver Sponsor - CFDynamics http://www.cfdynamics.com Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:187037 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
TinyMCE styles (Was Re: fck editor 2.0 RC)
So, can you explain to me how to use the styles in TinyMCE, then?
I have this code:
tinyMCE.init({
mode : specific_textareas,
theme: advanced,
theme_advanced_toolbar_location: top,
theme_advanced_buttons1:
bold,italic,underline,strikethrough,justifyleft,justifycenter,justifyright,justifyfull,
theme_advanced_buttons2:
bullist,numlist,outdent,indent,link,unlink,styleselect,
theme_advanced_styles: Header = test
});
It's adding the header style to the style drop down. But, I can't apply it
to any text - at least not any way that I've figured out. Is it supposed to
wrap the text with a span?
(Reading (or trying to read) the js file is like some awful trip to hell -
there isn't a single carriage return in the thing!)
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What I DO like about tinyMCE is the installation seems to be very easy
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Re: fck editor 2.0 RC
You know, I played with the samples a bit more, and this is the kind of code it generates: FONT class=MainHeaderanother test/FONT WTF? - Original Message - From: Matt Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 7:14 PM Subject: Re: fck editor 2.0 RC As for using the simpler toolbar options - look at fckconfig.js or something. Thats it all right. its that .js file that controls the look of the tool. Just add or remove toolbar items to one of the two existing ones, or better yet build your own new toolbar type and specify it in your editor call. -- --Matt Robertson-- President, Janitor MSB Designs, Inc. mysecretbase.com ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Gold Sponsor - CFHosting.net http://www.cfhosting.net Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:187111 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: fck editor 2.0 RC
With FCKEditor? I get all spans. Or are you using 1.6? Don't know what that one does offhand, although I've been using it for over a year :-D -- --Matt Robertson-- President, Janitor MSB Designs, Inc. mysecretbase.com ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Gold Sponsor - CFHosting.net http://www.cfhosting.net Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:187140 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: fck editor 2.0 RC
I'm using 1.5 and had to do a bit of coding to get clean XHTML and replace the 'class' drop down with a 'tag' drop down. IE instead of span class=header1 I now get h1. -Adam On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 15:04:47 -0600, Deanna Schneider [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You know, I played with the samples a bit more, and this is the kind of code it generates: FONT class=MainHeaderanother test/FONT WTF? - Original Message - From: Matt Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 7:14 PM Subject: Re: fck editor 2.0 RC As for using the simpler toolbar options - look at fckconfig.js or something. Thats it all right. its that .js file that controls the look of the tool. Just add or remove toolbar items to one of the two existing ones, or better yet build your own new toolbar type and specify it in your editor call. -- --Matt Robertson-- President, Janitor MSB Designs, Inc. mysecretbase.com ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Silver Sponsor - New Atlanta http://www.newatlanta.com Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:187148 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: fck editor 2.0 RC
I mean 1.6 On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 20:09:25 -0500, Adrocknaphobia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm using 1.5 and had to do a bit of coding to get clean XHTML and replace the 'class' drop down with a 'tag' drop down. IE instead of span class=header1 I now get h1. -Adam On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 15:04:47 -0600, Deanna Schneider [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You know, I played with the samples a bit more, and this is the kind of code it generates: FONT class=MainHeaderanother test/FONT WTF? - Original Message - From: Matt Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 7:14 PM Subject: Re: fck editor 2.0 RC As for using the simpler toolbar options - look at fckconfig.js or something. Thats it all right. its that .js file that controls the look of the tool. Just add or remove toolbar items to one of the two existing ones, or better yet build your own new toolbar type and specify it in your editor call. -- --Matt Robertson-- President, Janitor MSB Designs, Inc. mysecretbase.com ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Silver Sponsor - RUWebby http://www.ruwebby.com Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:187149 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: fck editor 2.0 RC
I'm not sure it's such a great idea to have image upload included as part of the editor. When someone uploads to my system, I want to process it myself, using my own specs - resize images, make sure they're only images and not anything else a bit more sinister, put the images where i think they ought to be based on the form contents etc. I'd like to see an image picker, where the user can select from a library of previously uploaded images, and by clicking on it, it inserts into the WYSIWYG text with the proper styles attached to it (floatright, floatleft etc) picked from a drop down list determined by the style sheet for the site All the editors I've seen concentrate on building in uploaders, and ignore the image picker side of it. Is it harder to do that or something? Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com .com,.net,.org domains from AUD$20/Year On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 20:09:31 -0500, Adrocknaphobia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I mean 1.6 On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 20:09:25 -0500, Adrocknaphobia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm using 1.5 and had to do a bit of coding to get clean XHTML and replace the 'class' drop down with a 'tag' drop down. IE instead of span class=header1 I now get h1. -Adam ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Silver Sponsor - RUWebby http://www.ruwebby.com Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:187176 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: fck editor 2.0 RC
Use TinyMCE. It's much simpler. http://tinymce.moxiecode.com/ Will Looks nice, but regular (non-technical) users would have problems inserting images. This type of editor really needs to let users preview/upload images. Without that, it's of little value. ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Gold Sponsor - CFHosting.net http://www.cfhosting.net Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:186971 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: fck editor 2.0 RC
You let users enter LOTS of HTML? :-O I would prefer that the editor just had a class drop down and the B and I items assigned to a style too! as for the images... inline in the content?!??! ye gads... your users must be drunk with power!!! but seriously.. how do you then strip out the content? I am sure in a couple if shakes of a developers tail we can get TinyMCE to do fileuploads in a CF styleee. I use it with Mambo and its rather nice in that way What I DO like about tinyMCE is the installation seems to be very easy MD On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 10:04:48 -0500, Rick Root [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Irvin Gomez wrote: Use TinyMCE. It's much simpler. http://tinymce.moxiecode.com/ Looks nice, but regular (non-technical) users would have problems inserting images. That was always my beef with a lot of the editors that don't include such functionality it's hard to ask users to type in the URL of an image on their server. htmlArea was the same way - I ended up adding a second image button to the toolbar that launched my own image browser. That's why I switched to FCKeditor... it had the browse and upload built into the main image dialog. tinymce might be nice for a message board utility or something where you only want users to enter basic html, but as a full-featured editor, it is definately lacking in the ease of use department if you ask me. - Rick ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Gold Sponsor - CFHosting.net http://www.cfhosting.net Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:186982 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: fck editor 2.0 RC
Deanna Schneider wrote: So, I downloaded this today and am playing with it. But, I don't see where there's an option to use anything other than the full-blown thing. I wanted to just use the basic one for starters. Of course, the 1.6 basic one doesn't seem to work in FF. Has anyone successfully gotten it working in FF for 1.6 or gotten the anything other than the default version to work in 2.0 RC? 1.6 does not support anything but IE 5.5+, and so you will not be able to get it to work with Firefox. Only the 2.0 releases work with Firefox. As for using the simpler toolbar options - look at fckconfig.js or something. - Rick ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Silver Sponsor - New Atlanta http://www.newatlanta.com Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:186927 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: fck editor 2.0 RC
As for using the simpler toolbar options - look at fckconfig.js or something. Thats it all right. its that .js file that controls the look of the tool. Just add or remove toolbar items to one of the two existing ones, or better yet build your own new toolbar type and specify it in your editor call. -- --Matt Robertson-- President, Janitor MSB Designs, Inc. mysecretbase.com ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Silver Sponsor - RUWebby http://www.ruwebby.com Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:186930 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: fck editor 2.0 RC
Use TinyMCE. It's much simpler. http://tinymce.moxiecode.com/ Will ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Silver Sponsor - CFDynamics http://www.cfdynamics.com Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:186935 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
