Re: multiple cfoutputs vs one as a wrapper
Nope. Aaron Rouse wrote: > Did they start the page off with: > > I have worked on peoples code that always start with that and wrap things > like you described. Best I can tell they did it in an attempt to save on > white space. > > On 9/8/05, Ray Champagne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>That makes sense. Although, I'm definitely inclined to think this >>person had no idea of performance issues, since there are lines that >>look like this: >> >> >> >> >> >> >>which is obviously just ridiculous, but they are EVERYWHERE. LOL. I >>know I could get rid of those, just wondering if it would be easier to >>just eliminate them all and surround the whole block (most are less than >>100 lines) with one without sacrificing too much. >> >> >> >> >> >>Andy McShane wrote: >> >>>I was always led to believe that putting cfoutput tags around a whole >> >>block >> >>>of code was slower that only putting the tags around the code that you >>>wanted output. If I remember correctly it is because the entire code >> >>block >> >>>between cfoutput tags has to be parsed and that could mean wasting time >> >>on a >> >>>lot of layout code. Not sure if there is a major difference in >> >>performance, >> >>>suppose it depends on the amount of code in the block? >>> >>>-Original Message- >>>From: Ray Champagne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>Sent: 08 September 2005 18:09 >>>To: CF-Talk >>>Subject: multiple cfoutputs vs one as a wrapper >>> >>>Hey all: >>> >>>I'm tasked with the job of reworking someone else's FB CF code, and one >>>thing that is driving me crazy is that the person who originally wrote >>>the code dropped in s many cfoutput's that it's really not readable. >>>Is there a performance benefit for doing this vs just cfoutputting a >>>whole block of code? >>> >>>Ray >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:217674 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: multiple cfoutputs vs one as a wrapper
Did they start the page off with: I have worked on peoples code that always start with that and wrap things like you described. Best I can tell they did it in an attempt to save on white space. On 9/8/05, Ray Champagne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > That makes sense. Although, I'm definitely inclined to think this > person had no idea of performance issues, since there are lines that > look like this: > > > > > > > which is obviously just ridiculous, but they are EVERYWHERE. LOL. I > know I could get rid of those, just wondering if it would be easier to > just eliminate them all and surround the whole block (most are less than > 100 lines) with one without sacrificing too much. > > > > > > Andy McShane wrote: > > I was always led to believe that putting cfoutput tags around a whole > block > > of code was slower that only putting the tags around the code that you > > wanted output. If I remember correctly it is because the entire code > block > > between cfoutput tags has to be parsed and that could mean wasting time > on a > > lot of layout code. Not sure if there is a major difference in > performance, > > suppose it depends on the amount of code in the block? > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Ray Champagne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: 08 September 2005 18:09 > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: multiple cfoutputs vs one as a wrapper > > > > Hey all: > > > > I'm tasked with the job of reworking someone else's FB CF code, and one > > thing that is driving me crazy is that the person who originally wrote > > the code dropped in s many cfoutput's that it's really not readable. > > Is there a performance benefit for doing this vs just cfoutputting a > > whole block of code? > > > > Ray > > > > > > > > > > > > ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:217673 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: multiple cfoutputs vs one as a wrapper
??? wrong topic? :) David Livingston wrote: > Bugzilla is a pretty decent one. I know it integrates with a few of > the more popular open source source control programs like CVS and > Subversion. > http://www.bugzilla.org/features/ > Might be worth looking into. > > Dave > > On Sep 8, 2005, at 12:09 PM, Ray Champagne wrote: > > >>Hey all: >> >>I'm tasked with the job of reworking someone else's FB CF code, and >>one >>thing that is driving me crazy is that the person who originally wrote >>the code dropped in s many cfoutput's that it's really not >>readable. >> Is there a performance benefit for doing this vs just cfoutputting a >>whole block of code? >> >>Ray >> >> >> > > > ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:217657 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: multiple cfoutputs vs one as a wrapper
Hey Josh, no, but good question. I hadn't thought of that. But, with this code, there'd be no reason that I'd see to use it anyways. Joshua Cyr wrote: > Does he have on that page?Just a > thought. > > -Original Message- > From: Ray Champagne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 1:20 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: multiple cfoutputs vs one as a wrapper > > That makes sense. Although, I'm definitely inclined to think this person > had no idea of performance issues, since there are lines that look like > this: > > > > > > > which is obviously just ridiculous, but they are EVERYWHERE. LOL. I know I > could get rid of those, just wondering if it would be easier to just > eliminate them all and surround the whole block (most are less than 100 > lines) with one without sacrificing too much. > > > > > > Andy McShane wrote: > >>I was always led to believe that putting cfoutput tags around a whole >>block of code was slower that only putting the tags around the code >>that you wanted output. If I remember correctly it is because the >>entire code block between cfoutput tags has to be parsed and that >>could mean wasting time on a lot of layout code. Not sure if there is >>a major difference in performance, suppose it depends on the amount of > > code in the block? > >>-Original Message- >>From: Ray Champagne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Sent: 08 September 2005 18:09 >>To: CF-Talk >>Subject: multiple cfoutputs vs one as a wrapper >> >>Hey all: >> >>I'm tasked with the job of reworking someone else's FB CF code, and >>one thing that is driving me crazy is that the person who originally >>wrote the code dropped in s many cfoutput's that it's really not > > readable. > >> Is there a performance benefit for doing this vs just cfoutputting a >>whole block of code? >> >>Ray >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:217656 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: multiple cfoutputs vs one as a wrapper
Well, I wasn't aware of that change in CFMX, useful info. :-) -Original Message- From: Barney Boisvert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 September 2005 18:20 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: multiple cfoutputs vs one as a wrapper That was the case on CF5 and lower, because they did runtime parsing of the CF, but with CFMX onward, the CF is compiled on the first request, so the parsing/compiling complexity doesn't have any effect on subsequent requests. In other words, having one or many CFOUTPUT tags only affects the initial compilation, which might make the first request slightly slower, but once it's compiled, there is no difference. cheers, barneyb On 9/8/05, Andy McShane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I was always led to believe that putting cfoutput tags around a whole block > of code was slower that only putting the tags around the code that you > wanted output. If I remember correctly it is because the entire code block > between cfoutput tags has to be parsed and that could mean wasting time on a > lot of layout code. Not sure if there is a major difference in performance, > suppose it depends on the amount of code in the block? > -- Barney Boisvert [EMAIL PROTECTED] 360.319.6145 http://www.barneyb.com/ Got Gmail? I have 100 invites. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:217655 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: multiple cfoutputs vs one as a wrapper
Bugzilla is a pretty decent one. I know it integrates with a few of the more popular open source source control programs like CVS and Subversion. http://www.bugzilla.org/features/ Might be worth looking into. Dave On Sep 8, 2005, at 12:09 PM, Ray Champagne wrote: > Hey all: > > I'm tasked with the job of reworking someone else's FB CF code, and > one > thing that is driving me crazy is that the person who originally wrote > the code dropped in s many cfoutput's that it's really not > readable. > Is there a performance benefit for doing this vs just cfoutputting a > whole block of code? > > Ray > > > ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:217652 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: multiple cfoutputs vs one as a wrapper
Does he have on that page?Just a thought. -Original Message- From: Ray Champagne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 1:20 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: multiple cfoutputs vs one as a wrapper That makes sense. Although, I'm definitely inclined to think this person had no idea of performance issues, since there are lines that look like this: which is obviously just ridiculous, but they are EVERYWHERE. LOL. I know I could get rid of those, just wondering if it would be easier to just eliminate them all and surround the whole block (most are less than 100 lines) with one without sacrificing too much. Andy McShane wrote: > I was always led to believe that putting cfoutput tags around a whole > block of code was slower that only putting the tags around the code > that you wanted output. If I remember correctly it is because the > entire code block between cfoutput tags has to be parsed and that > could mean wasting time on a lot of layout code. Not sure if there is > a major difference in performance, suppose it depends on the amount of code in the block? > > -Original Message- > From: Ray Champagne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 08 September 2005 18:09 > To: CF-Talk > Subject: multiple cfoutputs vs one as a wrapper > > Hey all: > > I'm tasked with the job of reworking someone else's FB CF code, and > one thing that is driving me crazy is that the person who originally > wrote the code dropped in s many cfoutput's that it's really not readable. > Is there a performance benefit for doing this vs just cfoutputting a > whole block of code? > > Ray > > > > > ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:217651 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: multiple cfoutputs vs one as a wrapper
Andy...this is old news and only applied prior to CF 5 I believe. The difference in processing time is quite insignificant (used to be more significant)so I weigh that against how much cleaner the code looks and is to maintain when using a whole file wrapper (not opening and closing everywhere and missing tags by accidentjust ain't worth the hassle). Hope that helps Cheers Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP & Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:217650 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: multiple cfoutputs vs one as a wrapper
Thanks BB! That's exactly what I needed to prove my point. Barney Boisvert wrote: > That was the case on CF5 and lower, because they did runtime parsing > of the CF, but with CFMX onward, the CF is compiled on the first > request, so the parsing/compiling complexity doesn't have any effect > on subsequent requests. In other words, having one or many CFOUTPUT > tags only affects the initial compilation, which might make the first > request slightly slower, but once it's compiled, there is no > difference. > > cheers, > barneyb > > On 9/8/05, Andy McShane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>I was always led to believe that putting cfoutput tags around a whole block >>of code was slower that only putting the tags around the code that you >>wanted output. If I remember correctly it is because the entire code block >>between cfoutput tags has to be parsed and that could mean wasting time on a >>lot of layout code. Not sure if there is a major difference in performance, >>suppose it depends on the amount of code in the block? >> > > -- = Ray Champagne - Senior Application Developer CrystalVision Web Site Design and Internet Services 603.433.9559 www.crystalvision.org = ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:217649 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: multiple cfoutputs vs one as a wrapper
That was the case on CF5 and lower, because they did runtime parsing of the CF, but with CFMX onward, the CF is compiled on the first request, so the parsing/compiling complexity doesn't have any effect on subsequent requests. In other words, having one or many CFOUTPUT tags only affects the initial compilation, which might make the first request slightly slower, but once it's compiled, there is no difference. cheers, barneyb On 9/8/05, Andy McShane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I was always led to believe that putting cfoutput tags around a whole block > of code was slower that only putting the tags around the code that you > wanted output. If I remember correctly it is because the entire code block > between cfoutput tags has to be parsed and that could mean wasting time on a > lot of layout code. Not sure if there is a major difference in performance, > suppose it depends on the amount of code in the block? > -- Barney Boisvert [EMAIL PROTECTED] 360.319.6145 http://www.barneyb.com/ Got Gmail? I have 100 invites. ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:217647 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: multiple cfoutputs vs one as a wrapper
That makes sense. Although, I'm definitely inclined to think this person had no idea of performance issues, since there are lines that look like this: which is obviously just ridiculous, but they are EVERYWHERE. LOL. I know I could get rid of those, just wondering if it would be easier to just eliminate them all and surround the whole block (most are less than 100 lines) with one without sacrificing too much. Andy McShane wrote: > I was always led to believe that putting cfoutput tags around a whole block > of code was slower that only putting the tags around the code that you > wanted output. If I remember correctly it is because the entire code block > between cfoutput tags has to be parsed and that could mean wasting time on a > lot of layout code. Not sure if there is a major difference in performance, > suppose it depends on the amount of code in the block? > > -Original Message- > From: Ray Champagne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 08 September 2005 18:09 > To: CF-Talk > Subject: multiple cfoutputs vs one as a wrapper > > Hey all: > > I'm tasked with the job of reworking someone else's FB CF code, and one > thing that is driving me crazy is that the person who originally wrote > the code dropped in s many cfoutput's that it's really not readable. > Is there a performance benefit for doing this vs just cfoutputting a > whole block of code? > > Ray > > > > > ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:217646 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: multiple cfoutputs vs one as a wrapper
I was always led to believe that putting cfoutput tags around a whole block of code was slower that only putting the tags around the code that you wanted output. If I remember correctly it is because the entire code block between cfoutput tags has to be parsed and that could mean wasting time on a lot of layout code. Not sure if there is a major difference in performance, suppose it depends on the amount of code in the block? -Original Message- From: Ray Champagne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 September 2005 18:09 To: CF-Talk Subject: multiple cfoutputs vs one as a wrapper Hey all: I'm tasked with the job of reworking someone else's FB CF code, and one thing that is driving me crazy is that the person who originally wrote the code dropped in s many cfoutput's that it's really not readable. Is there a performance benefit for doing this vs just cfoutputting a whole block of code? Ray ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:217643 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
