RE: wanted features (was Re: (Admin) disclosure)
-Original Message- From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 1:07 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: wanted features (was Re: (Admin) disclosure) The two biggest requests for new functionality I here are: 1) End of session processing (however it's done, an event model, a special template handler, etc - people are always asking how do I tell when a user is about to time-out). That would be great. OnEventEnd as a setting of some sort in the CFAPPLICATION tag to run a template when the specific event ends (OnSessionEnd, OnApplicationEnd). An admin or programatic way of watching the current session information would also be great. You can hack such a thing now, but built in would be so much nicer. I've got a feature request in the MM system now (actually added for me by Adam Cameron) suggesting the extension of the Application.cfm to at least four levels: Application.cfm/OnRequestStart.cfm (a much better name I think) OnRequestEnd.cfm: Already implemented OnServerStart.cfm: Runs when the server starts. (Maybe not a good idea as there may be file placement issues). OnServerEnd.cfm: Runs when the server is taken down nicely - would be useful for logging and such. OnApplicationStart.cfm: Runs once the first time an app starts (server refresh). OnApplicationEnd.cfm: Runs on a nice server refresh or app time-out. OnSessionStart.cfm: Runs once when a session is initialized in that session's space. OnSessionEnd.cfm: Runs right before a session is timed-out in that session's space (but doesn't reset the session timeout). 2) Direct Image manipulation (at the very least information access and resizing - it seems like every other week somebody is asking how to do a thumbnail gallery). This is pretty easy nowadays if you know a little Java - but many CFers don't. Direct image, PDF, RTF, etc. manipulation/creation. We can create graphs on the fly nativly in CF, we can create images using the CFX_Image tag, we can use X,Y, or Z product to create PDFs. Why not make it all native to CF. This is the kind of thing that you can really extend infinitely. For specific file formats (like PDF) I'm not sure if it's something MM would want to do (licensing costs, perhaps, and version issues might crop up). However it seems like they may be able to partner with somebody for this stuff and include it in the base product. In general CF's handling of binary data leaves a lot to be desired (although it has gotten much better). Although it is possible to embed binary data in a CF file now it's a little kludgy. It would be very nice to be able to stream data into CF (as from a text log file) instead of being forced to always load the entire file into memory via CFFILE. Even if NNTP's not in demand it does seem like one of the only major protocols that CF doesn't support natively. For that reason alone it might be nice to see it in there (Supports all major Internet protocols). My point. :) And a fine point it is. ;^) I'm just surprised that this was never done... I know that they've always got bigger, better on the horizon and they're working on that, but NNTP is such a simple protocol (no more complex than say SMTP or POP). You'd think they would have done something long ago. Jim Davis ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:137437 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
Re: wanted features (was Re: (Admin) disclosure)
| It would be very nice to be able to stream data into CF (as from a | text | log file) instead of being forced to always load the entire file into | memory via CFFILE. You can always do a cfexecute of head or tail, get the desired number of lines and suck the stdout into your varaible. /H. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:137441 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm
RE: wanted features (was Re: (Admin) disclosure)
You can always do a cfexecute of head or tail, get the desired number of lines and suck the stdout into your varaible. In a shared environment? Doubtful you could use CFEXECUTE. Serious. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:137442 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm
RE: wanted features (was Re: (Admin) disclosure)
I imagine OnSessionEnd.cfm would add considerable load? CF would have to track the session time out of every user, while it may be handy from time to time, it's a trade off I certainly wouldn't take if I was MM. Perhaps if it was configurable by application, cfapplication tracksessionend=yes ?? However, one thing I would love is the ability to end a request (send the user back his http 200 repsponse code) and continue processing, perhaps in a different thread. You can sorta hack this in a way with cfexecute and wget, but native would be great. -Original Message- From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 September 2003 07:32 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: wanted features (was Re: (Admin) disclosure) -Original Message- From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 1:07 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: wanted features (was Re: (Admin) disclosure) The two biggest requests for new functionality I here are: 1) End of session processing (however it's done, an event model, a special template handler, etc - people are always asking how do I tell when a user is about to time-out). That would be great. OnEventEnd as a setting of some sort in the CFAPPLICATION tag to run a template when the specific event ends (OnSessionEnd, OnApplicationEnd). An admin or programatic way of watching the current session information would also be great. You can hack such a thing now, but built in would be so much nicer. I've got a feature request in the MM system now (actually added for me by Adam Cameron) suggesting the extension of the Application.cfm to at least four levels: Application.cfm/OnRequestStart.cfm (a much better name I think) OnRequestEnd.cfm: Already implemented OnServerStart.cfm: Runs when the server starts. (Maybe not a good idea as there may be file placement issues). OnServerEnd.cfm: Runs when the server is taken down nicely - would be useful for logging and such. OnApplicationStart.cfm: Runs once the first time an app starts (server refresh). OnApplicationEnd.cfm: Runs on a nice server refresh or app time-out. OnSessionStart.cfm: Runs once when a session is initialized in that session's space. OnSessionEnd.cfm: Runs right before a session is timed-out in that session's space (but doesn't reset the session timeout). 2) Direct Image manipulation (at the very least information access and resizing - it seems like every other week somebody is asking how to do a thumbnail gallery). This is pretty easy nowadays if you know a little Java - but many CFers don't. Direct image, PDF, RTF, etc. manipulation/creation. We can create graphs on the fly nativly in CF, we can create images using the CFX_Image tag, we can use X,Y, or Z product to create PDFs. Why not make it all native to CF. This is the kind of thing that you can really extend infinitely. For specific file formats (like PDF) I'm not sure if it's something MM would want to do (licensing costs, perhaps, and version issues might crop up). However it seems like they may be able to partner with somebody for this stuff and include it in the base product. In general CF's handling of binary data leaves a lot to be desired (although it has gotten much better). Although it is possible to embed binary data in a CF file now it's a little kludgy. It would be very nice to be able to stream data into CF (as from a text log file) instead of being forced to always load the entire file into memory via CFFILE. Even if NNTP's not in demand it does seem like one of the only major protocols that CF doesn't support natively. For that reason alone it might be nice to see it in there (Supports all major Internet protocols). My point. :) And a fine point it is. ;^) I'm just surprised that this was never done... I know that they've always got bigger, better on the horizon and they're working on that, but NNTP is such a simple protocol (no more complex than say SMTP or POP). You'd think they would have done something long ago. Jim Davis ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:137443 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. http://www.cfhosting.com
Re: wanted features (was Re: (Admin) disclosure)
Michael Dinowitz wrote: Full protocol as in full communication protocols. We've got FTP, HTTP, SMTP, POP but there are others like NNTP that are missing. IMAP was the enhancement most voted for during the RedSky beta. Further I am missing SNMP. And naturally we want secure versions of POP, IMAP and SMTP. Jochem ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:137444 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. http://www.cfhosting.com
Re: wanted features (was Re: (Admin) disclosure)
IMAP was the enhancement most voted for during the RedSky beta. Further I am missing SNMP. And naturally we want secure versions of POP, IMAP and SMTP. Jochem agreed, a couple of features I wouldn't mind having Schema support CFML tags following xml conventions (eg cfelse /) a closer implementation to ecma with cfscript. (throw() by defult would be nice ;))! (probably dreaming more than anything(even more so since it's already easily doable)) ability to code java through cfscript Though you could debate the 'cfcs versus java' all night long, if there was one feature I wouldn't mind having when it comes to cfcs would be the ability to do interfaces, though it'll probably be abused more than 'used' it still would be nice. More for the bin.. Cheers, Robby _ Use custom emotions -- try MSN Messenger 6.0! http://www.msnmessenger-download.com/tracking/reach_emoticon ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:137448 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
RE: wanted features (was Re: (Admin) disclosure)
I'm just surprised that this was never done... I know that they've always got bigger, better on the horizon and they're working on that, but NNTP is such a simple protocol (no more complex than say SMTP or POP). You'd think they would have done something long ago. Yeah but look at how long it took for them to get a reasonably functioning pop and smtp tag. Tyler Clendenin GSL Solutions ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:137463 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
Re: wanted features (was Re: (Admin) disclosure)
Full protocol as in full communication protocols. We've got FTP, HTTP, SMTP, POP Actually, we had to go with a php solution here for our web mail because CF doesn't support secure POP. -Kevin ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:137465 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. http://www.cfhosting.com
RE: wanted features (was Re: (Admin) disclosure)
You can also instantiate a java file streamer (which I think works better) but that's still not a CF feature. ;^) Jim Davis -Original Message- From: Hugo Ahlenius [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 3:53 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: wanted features (was Re: (Admin) disclosure) | It would be very nice to be able to stream data into CF (as from a | text | log file) instead of being forced to always load the entire file into | memory via CFFILE. You can always do a cfexecute of head or tail, get the desired number of lines and suck the stdout into your varaible. /H. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:137493 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. http://www.cfhosting.com
RE: wanted features (was Re: (Admin) disclosure)
-Original Message- From: Craig Dudley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 5:03 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: wanted features (was Re: (Admin) disclosure) I imagine OnSessionEnd.cfm would add considerable load? CF would have to track the session time out of every user, while it may be handy from time to time, it's a trade off I certainly wouldn't take if I was MM. Perhaps if it was configurable by application, cfapplication tracksessionend=yes ?? I'm not sure what you mean? CF already has to track the timeout of every user all the time (and constantly because each user's timeout time is specific to that user and constantly updated in use). However, one thing I would love is the ability to end a request (send the user back his http 200 repsponse code) and continue processing, perhaps in a different thread. You can sorta hack this in a way with cfexecute and wget, but native would be great. This reminds me of another thing however: in all pervious versions of CF you could run a CF template from the command line (thus letting you easily use third-party schedulers). You can't do that in MX and I for one miss it. ;^) Jim Davis ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:137498 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm
RE: wanted features (was Re: (Admin) disclosure)
My understanding would be that cf just needs to keep a last page hit time for a particular session, and then compare that with any new page hit from that client, if the time difference is greater than the session has timed out. You could call it passive session tracking?? But what's being suggested is that cf actually could be set to run some code or template at the exact time a session expires, which I guess we could call active session tracking. Which would mean having to keep a timer active for every session, yes? Or am I missing something? -Original Message- From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 September 2003 16:03 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: wanted features (was Re: (Admin) disclosure) -Original Message- From: Craig Dudley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 5:03 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: wanted features (was Re: (Admin) disclosure) I imagine OnSessionEnd.cfm would add considerable load? CF would have to track the session time out of every user, while it may be handy from time to time, it's a trade off I certainly wouldn't take if I was MM. Perhaps if it was configurable by application, cfapplication tracksessionend=yes ?? I'm not sure what you mean? CF already has to track the timeout of every user all the time (and constantly because each user's timeout time is specific to that user and constantly updated in use). However, one thing I would love is the ability to end a request (send the user back his http 200 repsponse code) and continue processing, perhaps in a different thread. You can sorta hack this in a way with cfexecute and wget, but native would be great. This reminds me of another thing however: in all pervious versions of CF you could run a CF template from the command line (thus letting you easily use third-party schedulers). You can't do that in MX and I for one miss it. ;^) Jim Davis ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:137504 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. http://www.cfhosting.com
RE: wanted features (was Re: (Admin) disclosure)
Michael, You should be able to utilize the underlying HttpSessionListener interface to monitor session creations and destructions, though that requires writing an appropriate Java class which isn't a big deal if you don't mind getting your hands dirty with Java. You'll also need to use J2EE sessions. Admittedly, having a native ColdFusion hook for these events would be useful i.e. you register a CFC that listens for these events and when the event occurs all the listening CFCs get notified with the appropriate event. Unfortunately, CFCs don't support interfaces so this might be a little tricky to implement i.e. deciding which method in the CFC to call. Are you aware of the SessionTracker class that maintains a collection of sessions for a given ColdFusion application? André -Original Message- From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 September 2003 06:07 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: wanted features (was Re: (Admin) disclosure) The two biggest requests for new functionality I here are: 1) End of session processing (however it's done, an event model, a special template handler, etc - people are always asking how do I tell when a user is about to time-out). That would be great. OnEventEnd as a setting of some sort in the CFAPPLICATION tag to run a template when the specific event ends (OnSessionEnd, OnApplicationEnd). An admin or programatic way of watching the current session information would also be great. You can hack such a thing now, but built in would be so much nicer. 2) Direct Image manipulation (at the very least information access and resizing - it seems like every other week somebody is asking how to do a thumbnail gallery). This is pretty easy nowadays if you know a little Java - but many CFers don't. Direct image, PDF, RTF, etc. manipulation/creation. We can create graphs on the fly nativly in CF, we can create images using the CFX_Image tag, we can use X,Y, or Z product to create PDFs. Why not make it all native to CF. Even if NNTP's not in demand it does seem like one of the only major protocols that CF doesn't support natively. For that reason alone it might be nice to see it in there (Supports all major Internet protocols). My point. :) ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:137508 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm
RE: wanted features (was Re: (Admin) disclosure)
-Original Message- From: Craig Dudley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 11:28 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: wanted features (was Re: (Admin) disclosure) My understanding would be that cf just needs to keep a last page hit time for a particular session, and then compare that with any new page hit from that client, if the time difference is greater than the session has timed out. You could call it passive session tracking?? No - if that were the case CF could never reclaim the session resources if the user never came back. There has to be an automated timeout regardless of user activity. CF has to constantly check to see if any of the currently active sessions have not been accessed and if not delete them to reclaim those resources. It does this at least once every few seconds. But what's being suggested is that cf actually could be set to run some code or template at the exact time a session expires, which I guess we could call active session tracking. Which would mean having to keep a timer active for every session, yes? Or am I missing something? Not really. As it works now CF has a timespan in memory (default 20 minutes) - this is the timeout. Every time a client hits a session the current time is added to the session - this is last access time (or somesuch) Regularly (every few seconds at lest) CF loops through all the open session and determines if the difference between the last access time and the current time is great than the timeout timespan. If the difference is not greater it leaves the session alone. If the difference IS greater it immediately deletes that session. It seems it would be trivial to also call a template at that point. As for performance it wouldn't really hurt much. I've built a system that mimics all of this using only the application scope (the only way to really get end-of-session processing) and it's definitely not slow. Doing it at the architectural level (and dropping the need to do application-level locking) would make it blazingly fast in comparison. Jim Davis ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:137522 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
RE: wanted features (was Re: (Admin) disclosure)
Thanks for the info - I did know about that. However, the point here isn't what you can do, eventually, in CF using external things. We use ColdFusion we can do ANYTHING! ;^) The point is what does CFML offer. Calling out to Java is insanely powerful - but many people (myself included) don't have the skills yet. To be perfectly blunt it's also a little embarrassing: this is a basic aspect of application management on pretty much every other web application platform - and CF lacks it. CF shouldn't lack anything that ASP/JSP/PHP people can use to lord over us. We should be lording over them. ;^) Jim Davis -Original Message- From: Andre Mohamed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 11:47 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: wanted features (was Re: (Admin) disclosure) Michael, You should be able to utilize the underlying HttpSessionListener interface to monitor session creations and destructions, though that requires writing an appropriate Java class which isn't a big deal if you don't mind getting your hands dirty with Java. You'll also need to use J2EE sessions. Admittedly, having a native ColdFusion hook for these events would be useful i.e. you register a CFC that listens for these events and when the event occurs all the listening CFCs get notified with the appropriate event. Unfortunately, CFCs don't support interfaces so this might be a little tricky to implement i.e. deciding which method in the CFC to call. Are you aware of the SessionTracker class that maintains a collection of sessions for a given ColdFusion application? André -Original Message- From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 September 2003 06:07 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: wanted features (was Re: (Admin) disclosure) The two biggest requests for new functionality I here are: 1) End of session processing (however it's done, an event model, a special template handler, etc - people are always asking how do I tell when a user is about to time-out). That would be great. OnEventEnd as a setting of some sort in the CFAPPLICATION tag to run a template when the specific event ends (OnSessionEnd, OnApplicationEnd). An admin or programatic way of watching the current session information would also be great. You can hack such a thing now, but built in would be so much nicer. 2) Direct Image manipulation (at the very least information access and resizing - it seems like every other week somebody is asking how to do a thumbnail gallery). This is pretty easy nowadays if you know a little Java - but many CFers don't. Direct image, PDF, RTF, etc. manipulation/creation. We can create graphs on the fly nativly in CF, we can create images using the CFX_Image tag, we can use X,Y, or Z product to create PDFs. Why not make it all native to CF. Even if NNTP's not in demand it does seem like one of the only major protocols that CF doesn't support natively. For that reason alone it might be nice to see it in there (Supports all major Internet protocols). My point. :) ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:137525 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
RE: wanted features (was Re: (Admin) disclosure)
-Original Message- From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 11:50 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: wanted features (was Re: (Admin) disclosure) Now they'll have to go through over 225,000 messages to see what we want in CF and where we want it to go (NNTP, full protocol support, enhanced scheduling, Studio, etc.). Even with threading and subject sorting, it's not going to be something easy. Studio seems like a pretty obvious want from the community. However, I was hoping you could clarify what you mean by full protocol support and enhanced scheduling. BTW, I wasn't aware that NNTP was in such high demand from CFers. I for one would like it - but I'm with you: I doubt it's high on most people lists (although, as a list-admin, Mike may have different priorities). ;^) The two biggest requests for new functionality I here are: 1) End of session processing (however it's done, an event model, a special template handler, etc - people are always asking how do I tell when a user is about to time-out). 2) Direct Image manipulation (at the very least information access and resizing - it seems like every other week somebody is asking how to do a thumbnail gallery). This is pretty easy nowadays if you know a little Java - but many CFers don't. Even if NNTP's not in demand it does seem like one of the only major protocols that CF doesn't support natively. For that reason alone it might be nice to see it in there (Supports all major Internet protocols). Personally I think we're doing pretty well - except for a few things CF pretty much does it all. The vast majority of requests, it seems, are for enhancements to existing stuff (and a good number of them are pretty esoteric). Jim Davis ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:137432 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
Re: wanted features (was Re: (Admin) disclosure)
Now they'll have to go through over 225,000 messages to see what we want in CF and where we want it to go (NNTP, full protocol support, enhanced scheduling, Studio, etc.). Even with threading and subject sorting, it's not going to be something easy. Studio seems like a pretty obvious want from the community. However, I was hoping you could clarify what you mean by full protocol support and enhanced scheduling. BTW, I wasn't aware that NNTP was in such high demand from CFers. Full protocol as in full communication protocols. We've got FTP, HTTP, SMTP, POP but there are others like NNTP that are missing. I'm not putting NNTP itself on the top of the list, but it's one of the most commonly used protocols that's missing from CF. A CFSocket tag might take care of it while a CFSocket and a CFNNTP (and maybe even a CFTelnet) might be nice. I'm just looking for the complete spread. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:137433 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
Re: wanted features (was Re: (Admin) disclosure)
The two biggest requests for new functionality I here are: 1) End of session processing (however it's done, an event model, a special template handler, etc - people are always asking how do I tell when a user is about to time-out). That would be great. OnEventEnd as a setting of some sort in the CFAPPLICATION tag to run a template when the specific event ends (OnSessionEnd, OnApplicationEnd). An admin or programatic way of watching the current session information would also be great. You can hack such a thing now, but built in would be so much nicer. 2) Direct Image manipulation (at the very least information access and resizing - it seems like every other week somebody is asking how to do a thumbnail gallery). This is pretty easy nowadays if you know a little Java - but many CFers don't. Direct image, PDF, RTF, etc. manipulation/creation. We can create graphs on the fly nativly in CF, we can create images using the CFX_Image tag, we can use X,Y, or Z product to create PDFs. Why not make it all native to CF. Even if NNTP's not in demand it does seem like one of the only major protocols that CF doesn't support natively. For that reason alone it might be nice to see it in there (Supports all major Internet protocols). My point. :) ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:137434 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm
