RE: win 2000 professional for web server?
Costas When you say connections are you talking about simultaneous concurrent requests? Thanks -Original Message- From: Costas Piliotis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 March 2003 00:42 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: win 2000 professional for web server? Actually, win2k pro will give you glitches. IIS won't allow more than ten connections, and a web based connection DOES count. Consider trying Apache on win2k pro instead. That's a MUCH better work around. I've seen win2k pro deny connections on a web server before for too many concurrent connections. -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 4:35 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: win 2000 professional for web server? I am setting up a web server with CF 5.0 on a win2kpro box and I read in the CF 5.0 installation manual that win2kpro is not recommended because it only allows 10 concurrent TCP/IP connections. This means that only 10 concurrent users can access the website right? Or are there connections used for internal things that would limit concurrent users further? Database connections, SMTP connections, FTP connections, management connections, backup connections etc. etc. etc. all reduce that number. If you run DNS even that reduces the number during zone transfers. Actually, I don't think this is true. I think you can have more than ten concurrent TCP/IP connections. You just can't support more than ten concurrent authenticated or SSL connections through the version of IIS that comes with Win2K Pro. I'm not 100% sure about this, though, and don't have a machine handy to test. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ voice: (202) 797-5496 fax: (202) 797-5444 ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: win 2000 professional for web server?
dan martin wrote: I am setting up a web server with CF 5.0 on a win2kpro box and I read in the CF 5.0 installation manual that win2kpro is not recommended because it only allows 10 concurrent TCP/IP connections. This means that only 10 concurrent users can access the website right? Or are there connections used for internal things that would limit concurrent users further? Database connections, SMTP connections, FTP connections, management connections, backup connections etc. etc. etc. all reduce that number. If you run DNS even that reduces the number during zone transfers. What is the recommendation from the group? Should I upgrade to win 2k server? If I upgrade to win 2k server how many CALs do I need for a general purpose webserver? You need server. I don't think there is a need for advanced or datacenter edition. You should be able to find all the info you need on CALs on the net, else get it in writing from a sales rep. All I can tell you is that my academic license comes with unlimited CALs :-) Jochem ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: win 2000 professional for web server?
For a medium traffic web site, or for multiple virtual web sites, go with Win2k Advanced Server. Why would you recommend Advanced Server over just plain ol' Win2K Server for this? Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ voice: (202) 797-5496 fax: (202) 797-5444 ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: win 2000 professional for web server?
standard Server will do just fine..no need to use Advanced (unless you are sure you will use the features of it of course!) -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 March 2003 14:53 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: win 2000 professional for web server? For a medium traffic web site, or for multiple virtual web sites, go with Win2k Advanced Server. Why would you recommend Advanced Server over just plain ol' Win2K Server for this? Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ voice: (202) 797-5496 fax: (202) 797-5444 ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: win 2000 professional for web server?
You don't need CALs for anonymous connections to either a CF web site or a non-CF web site. You only need CALs for connections that use Windows authentication, such as IIS' FTP users. Also, shop around - you should be able to find Windows 2000 w/5 cals for under $700. Jim - Original Message - From: dan martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 11:40 AM Subject: win 2000 professional for web server? Thanks for the responses. According to MS site, the cost of win 2k server with 5 CALs is $999, 10 CALs is $1199 and 25 CALs is $1799. How many CALs make sense? If the CF is set to 5 concurrent users (the recommended setting) does that mean 5 CALs is all that is needed, or do I need more for other reasons? The MS site is not very useful for figuring out which product to buy. If 6 people try to access a website that is running a 5 CAL licence what happens, an error message or do they just get queued up? Can anyone recommend links or books on web server setup? I would like to switch to linux at some point. This site requires some hardware that is controlled by a windows app, so I would need to figure out how to get the linux webserver/CF to talk to the win box. So for now it seems simplest to keep everything on one windows box. Any recommended links or books for linux webserver setup would also be appreciated. ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: win 2000 professional for web server?
A user browsing a web site does not count against the number of licenses you have, unless you are using integrated windows authentication. FYI, the 10 user limit in Win2k Pro is hard coded into IIS (there are rumors of a hack, never seen it though), and has nothing to do with the number of CAL's. Bottom line, get the 5 CAL version of Win2k Server. -- jon mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Tuesday, March 4, 2003, 1:40:52 PM, you wrote: dm Thanks for the responses. According to MS site, the cost of win 2k server with 5 CALs is $999, 10 CALs is $1199 and 25 CALs is $1799. How many CALs make sense? If the CF is set to 5 concurrent dm users (the recommended setting) does that mean 5 CALs is all that is needed, or do I need more for other reasons? The MS site is not very useful for figuring out which product to buy. If 6 people dm try to access a website that is running a 5 CAL licence what happens, an error message or do they just get queued up? Can anyone recommend links or books on web server setup? dm I would like to switch to linux at some point. This site requires some hardware that is controlled by a windows app, so I would need to figure out how to get the linux webserver/CF to talk to the dm win box. So for now it seems simplest to keep everything on one windows box. Any recommended links or books for linux webserver setup would also be appreciated. dm ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: win 2000 professional for web server?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=3403787841category=11229 Here ya go.. Just an example. ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: win 2000 professional for web server?
The piece I always thought was definitive is this excerpt from Microsoft's Windows2k CAL info. Authenticated Internet access. Customers with Internet sites using Windows 2000 authentication will require CALs for authenticated users connecting to their sites. Such customers may comply with this licensing requirement by purchasing CALs in Per seat or Per Server mode. Or, they may opt to purchase the new Internet Connector license for unlimited Internet CALs as long as the devices are used by Internet users on a single server. Access to Internet sites by anonymous users does not require a CAL. The key piece is the last sentence. The page is at http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/server/howtobuy/pricing/model.asp if you'd like to look at what I'm referencing. This is what we always used as a reference, but I haven't called Microsoft to ask by any means. Josh -Original Message- From: dan martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 2:46 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: win 2000 professional for web server? I called MS and was told that I need three sets of licenses with separate part numbers: 1. for win2k server @ $738 2. for internet connector @ $1871 3. optional CALs @ $30/each Adding in the internet connector makes the whole thing very expensive. The MS person was pretty clear that 1 and 2 were required for a web server AND that they are not sold in a boxed set, you have to custom order. This sounds pretty strange to me. Can anyone verify that the internet connector license is NOT required to put up a webserver? If so, what are the benefits/drawbacks of having/not having an internet connector license? I sure want to avoid mistakes on this $$ purchase. ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: win 2000 professional for web server?
A user browsing a web site does not count against the number of licenses you have, unless you are using integrated windows authentication. ... or if you're using SSL, if I recall correctly. I remember trying to purchase something on an ecommerce site, only to find out that the SSL portion wouldn't work because they already had ten connected SSL users. I got a nice little IIS banner explaining it very clearly. Bottom line, get the 5 CAL version of Win2k Server. Or, maybe, consider Apache 2 on Windows. That's really the only reason I'd use Apache over IIS on Windows for production - to save a few hundred dollars for a small dedicated server. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ voice: (202) 797-5496 fax: (202) 797-5444 ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: win 2000 professional for web server?
- Original Message - From: dan martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 12:46 PM Subject: win 2000 professional for web server? I called MS and was told that I need three sets of licenses with separate part numbers: 1. for win2k server @ $738 2. for internet connector @ $1871 3. optional CALs @ $30/each Adding in the internet connector makes the whole thing very expensive. The MS person was pretty clear that 1 and 2 were required for a web server AND that they are not sold in a boxed set, you have to custom order. This sounds pretty strange to me. Can anyone verify that the internet connector license is NOT required to put up a webserver? If so, what are the benefits/drawbacks of having/not having an internet connector license? I sure want to avoid mistakes on this $$ purchase. Old story. Call Microsoft ten times and ask about software licensing and you're likely to get ten different answers to the same question. Little wonder nobody can figure it out and even less of a wonder that so many don't bother with proper licsensing of MS softwaer. They're shooting themselves in the foot with their constantly shifting licensing schemes that their own people don't understand. Jim ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: win 2000 professional for web server?
and you trust a sales rep from MS ;-) Bill is worth how much now...$40 plus billion ;-) Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. t. 250.920.8830 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Macromedia Associate Partner www.macromedia.com - Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group Founder Director www.cfug-vancouverisland.com - Original Message - From: dan martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 11:46 AM Subject: win 2000 professional for web server? I called MS and was told that I need three sets of licenses with separate part numbers: 1. for win2k server @ $738 2. for internet connector @ $1871 3. optional CALs @ $30/each Adding in the internet connector makes the whole thing very expensive. The MS person was pretty clear that 1 and 2 were required for a web server AND that they are not sold in a boxed set, you have to custom order. This sounds pretty strange to me. Can anyone verify that the internet connector license is NOT required to put up a webserver? If so, what are the benefits/drawbacks of having/not having an internet connector license? I sure want to avoid mistakes on this $$ purchase. ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: win 2000 professional for web server?
Per the Licensing Website... http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/server/howtobuy/pricing/changes.asp a.. Authenticated Internet access. Customers with Internet sites using Windows 2000 authentication will require CALs for authenticated users connecting to their sites. Such customers may comply with this licensing requirement by purchasing CALs in Per seat or Per Server mode. Or, they may opt to purchase the new Internet Connector license for unlimited Internet CALs on a single server. Access to Internet sites by anonymous users does not require a CAL. Per Seat mode vs. Per Server mode for Client Access License (CAL) licensing. The key here is Authenticated Users. If you are not using Windows authentication for your web apps, then you do not need the connector. Ditto if all access to your site is done using the IUSR account. HTH, Jeff Garza - Original Message - From: dan martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 12:46 PM Subject: win 2000 professional for web server? I called MS and was told that I need three sets of licenses with separate part numbers: 1. for win2k server @ $738 2. for internet connector @ $1871 3. optional CALs @ $30/each Adding in the internet connector makes the whole thing very expensive. The MS person was pretty clear that 1 and 2 were required for a web server AND that they are not sold in a boxed set, you have to custom order. This sounds pretty strange to me. Can anyone verify that the internet connector license is NOT required to put up a webserver? If so, what are the benefits/drawbacks of having/not having an internet connector license? I sure want to avoid mistakes on this $$ purchase. ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: win 2000 professional for web server?
All Hail the mighty Apache!!. I've been running Apache exclusively on my windows machines for a couple years and have had zero problems. Unless you require windows authentication, Apache is the way to go. Faster, more stable, and free! You might even be able to get a module that allows you to use windows authentication with it, too. barneyb -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 12:55 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: win 2000 professional for web server? A user browsing a web site does not count against the number of licenses you have, unless you are using integrated windows authentication. ... or if you're using SSL, if I recall correctly. I remember trying to purchase something on an ecommerce site, only to find out that the SSL portion wouldn't work because they already had ten connected SSL users. I got a nice little IIS banner explaining it very clearly. Bottom line, get the 5 CAL version of Win2k Server. Or, maybe, consider Apache 2 on Windows. That's really the only reason I'd use Apache over IIS on Windows for production - to save a few hundred dollars for a small dedicated server. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ voice: (202) 797-5496 fax: (202) 797-5444 ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: win 2000 professional for web server?
1. for win2k server @ $738 2. for internet connector @ $1871 3. optional CALs @ $30/each Jezz, they want money, don't they? So, I'm running Win2000 Pro and IIS on my dev machine. What keeps me from putting the computer in the car and carrying it down to my local hosting company and hooking it up to the net to run some client sites? I paid for all that software - but I can't use it exactly the way I want without coughing up more $. Greedy bastards, huh? ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: win 2000 professional for web server?
Apache [for Windows] is the way to go. Faster, more stable, and free! Well, in my own experience, you've got one out of three. I haven't found it to be either faster or more stable than IIS. Then again, I haven't really seen any significant IIS or Apache/Windows stability problems. You might even be able to get a module that allows you to use windows authentication with it, too. I kind of doubt it - or even if it existed, I doubt you'd want to use it. For this to work, the web server has to run as part of the operating system, using the SYSTEM security context. However, IIS doesn't actually run every request as SYSTEM, but rather impersonates a specific user. Apache simply isn't designed to do this. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ voice: (202) 797-5496 fax: (202) 797-5444 ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: win 2000 professional for web server?
Sure you can, as long as you don't use windows authentication through IIS for anything. -Original Message- From: Les Mizzell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 12:53 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: win 2000 professional for web server? 1. for win2k server @ $738 2. for internet connector @ $1871 3. optional CALs @ $30/each Jezz, they want money, don't they? So, I'm running Win2000 Pro and IIS on my dev machine. What keeps me from putting the computer in the car and carrying it down to my local hosting company and hooking it up to the net to run some client sites? I paid for all that software - but I can't use it exactly the way I want without coughing up more $. Greedy bastards, huh? ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: win 2000 professional for web server?
I am setting up a web server with CF 5.0 on a win2kpro box and I read in the CF 5.0 installation manual that win2kpro is not recommended because it only allows 10 concurrent TCP/IP connections. This means that only 10 concurrent users can access the website right? Or are there connections used for internal things that would limit concurrent users further? Database connections, SMTP connections, FTP connections, management connections, backup connections etc. etc. etc. all reduce that number. If you run DNS even that reduces the number during zone transfers. Actually, I don't think this is true. I think you can have more than ten concurrent TCP/IP connections. You just can't support more than ten concurrent authenticated or SSL connections through the version of IIS that comes with Win2K Pro. I'm not 100% sure about this, though, and don't have a machine handy to test. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ voice: (202) 797-5496 fax: (202) 797-5444 ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: win 2000 professional for web server?
Actually, win2k pro will give you glitches. IIS won't allow more than ten connections, and a web based connection DOES count. Consider trying Apache on win2k pro instead. That's a MUCH better work around. I've seen win2k pro deny connections on a web server before for too many concurrent connections. -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 4:35 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: win 2000 professional for web server? I am setting up a web server with CF 5.0 on a win2kpro box and I read in the CF 5.0 installation manual that win2kpro is not recommended because it only allows 10 concurrent TCP/IP connections. This means that only 10 concurrent users can access the website right? Or are there connections used for internal things that would limit concurrent users further? Database connections, SMTP connections, FTP connections, management connections, backup connections etc. etc. etc. all reduce that number. If you run DNS even that reduces the number during zone transfers. Actually, I don't think this is true. I think you can have more than ten concurrent TCP/IP connections. You just can't support more than ten concurrent authenticated or SSL connections through the version of IIS that comes with Win2K Pro. I'm not 100% sure about this, though, and don't have a machine handy to test. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ voice: (202) 797-5496 fax: (202) 797-5444 ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: win 2000 professional for web server?
Jim it suits me just fine. My young son is earning a good living and getting ahead quite quickly in the call centre that looks after MS support here in Australia. He's a licensing specialist and handles all these kinds of questions. For his sake, I'm glad they made it complicated - it's giving him a good job. But for every other reason I think it's technology gone mad to have such a complicated licensing regime. Just because Microsoft have enough people in the company to be able to have squads of folks just thinking up new ways to bundle products together doesn't mean it's a good idea to do so. The only people who have worse pricing policies are the telecoms. Ever try to figure out your phone bill and whether you'd be better off on another plan? It just hurts your brain. Cheers, Michael Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia AFP Webworks. -Original Message- From: Jim McAtee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 5 March 2003 7:52 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: win 2000 professional for web server? Old story. Call Microsoft ten times and ask about software licensing and you're likely to get ten different answers to the same question. Little wonder nobody can figure it out and even less of a wonder that so many don't bother with proper licsensing of MS softwaer. They're shooting themselves in the foot with their constantly shifting licensing schemes that their own people don't understand. Jim ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: win 2000 professional for web server?
That is correct. For a medium traffic web site, or for multiple virtual web sites, go with Win2k Advanced Server. If your server will be a stand-alone (not used for anything else except a server) then you might want to consider Red Hat Linux/Apache server which also supports CF 5.0 and may result in some license cost savings for you A sample Win2k Adv Server site may be seen at http://samcfug.org and an apache/Linux site: http://bsa-401troop.net They both use CF 5.0 and work just fine. = Douglas White group Manager mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.samcfug.org = - Original Message - From: dan martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 10:33 PM Subject: win 2000 professional for web server? | I am setting up a web server with CF 5.0 on a win2kpro box and I read in the CF 5.0 installation manual that win2kpro is not recommended because it only allows 10 concurrent TCP/IP connections. This means that only 10 concurrent users can access the website right? Or are there connections used for internal things that would limit concurrent users further? | | What is the recommendation from the group? Should I upgrade to win 2k server? If I upgrade to win 2k server how many CALs do I need for a general purpose webserver? | | Thanks in advance. | | | | - | Do you Yahoo!? | Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, and more | ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: win 2000 professional for web server?
oops, that second link should be http://bsa-troop401.net sorry = Douglas White group Manager mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.samcfug.org = - Original Message - From: samcfug [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 12:01 AM Subject: Re: win 2000 professional for web server? | That is correct. | | For a medium traffic web site, or for multiple virtual web sites, go with Win2k | Advanced Server. | | If your server will be a stand-alone (not used for anything else except a | server) then you might want to consider Red Hat Linux/Apache server which also | supports CF 5.0 and may result in some license cost savings for you | | A sample Win2k Adv Server site may be seen at http://samcfug.org | | and an apache/Linux site: | | http://bsa-401troop.net | | They both use CF 5.0 and work just fine. | | = | Douglas White | group Manager | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.samcfug.org | = | - Original Message - | From: dan martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] | To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 10:33 PM | Subject: win 2000 professional for web server? | | | | I am setting up a web server with CF 5.0 on a win2kpro box and I read in the | CF 5.0 installation manual that win2kpro is not recommended because it only | allows 10 concurrent TCP/IP connections. This means that only 10 concurrent | users can access the website right? Or are there connections used for internal | things that would limit concurrent users further? | | | | What is the recommendation from the group? Should I upgrade to win 2k server? | If I upgrade to win 2k server how many CALs do I need for a general purpose | webserver? | | | | Thanks in advance. | | | | | | | | - | | Do you Yahoo!? | | Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, and more | | | ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
