RE: (ot) Blocking IPs

2012-11-02 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

LMAO !

:P

It's cruel to mock the afflicted ;)

-Original Message-
From: Gerald Guido [mailto:gerald.gu...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 01 November 2012 23:30
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: (ot) Blocking IPs


That sir, made my day. Classic.

G!

On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 4:06 PM, Dave Watts  wrote:

>
> > I have found it effective to block troublesome emails for some 
> > length of time, usually 6 months does it.
>
> http://instantrimshot.com/
>
> Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
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> http://training.figleaf.com/
>
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> Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized 
> instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite.
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RE: (ot) Blocking IPs

2012-11-02 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

LOL .. whoops .. didn't realise it was so long since I checked the list!



-Original Message-
From: Matt Quackenbush [mailto:quackfu...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 01 November 2012 19:26
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: (ot) Blocking IPs


You do realize that the post you replied to is 6 months old, right?


On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 2:21 PM, Jenny Gavin-Wear <
jenn...@fasttrackonline.co.uk> wrote:

>
> I have found it effective to block troublesome IPs for some length of 
> time, usually an hour to a day does it.
>
> This was my security policy as an IT Manager and it is working fine on 
> my dedicated server.
>
> Hope this helps!
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Robert Harrison [mailto:rob...@austin-williams.com]
> Sent: 02 May 2012 13:51
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: (ot) Blocking IPs
>
>
> I have a host who, for the most part, I am satisfied with. However, he 
> is in the habit of blocking IP ranges for various reasons... DDOS 
> attacks, repeated port scans, etc.  I've had complaints from some of 
> my clients who do international business that some people cannot 
> access their sites other parts of the world, like places in Asia, the 
> Middle East, South and Central America, etc. I'm not surprised at the 
> complaints.
>
> Is this a normal practice, or is this host over-zealous?
>
>
>
> Robert Harrison
> Director of Interactive Services
>
> Austin & Williams
> Advertising I Branding I Digital I Direct
> 125 Kennedy Drive,  Suite 100   I  Hauppauge, NY 11788 T 631.231.6600 X
> 119
>   F 631.434.7022 http://www.austin-williams.com
>
> Blog:  http://www.austin-williams.com/blog
> Twitter:  http://www.twitter.com/austin_
>
>
>
> 



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Re: (ot) Blocking IPs

2012-11-01 Thread Gerald Guido

That sir, made my day. Classic.

G!

On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 4:06 PM, Dave Watts  wrote:

>
> > I have found it effective to block troublesome emails for some length of
> > time, usually 6 months does it.
>
> http://instantrimshot.com/
>
> Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> http://www.figleaf.com/
> http://training.figleaf.com/
>
> Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on
> GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
> instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite.
>
> 

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Re: (ot) Blocking IPs

2012-11-01 Thread Bobby

Ha! I was about to reply with the exact same link...

On 11/1/12 4:06 PM, "Dave Watts"  wrote:

>
>> I have found it effective to block troublesome emails for some length of
>> time, usually 6 months does it.
>
>http://instantrimshot.com/
>
>Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
>http://www.figleaf.com/
>http://training.figleaf.com/
>
>Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on
>GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
>instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite.
>
>

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Re: (ot) Blocking IPs

2012-11-01 Thread Dave Watts

> I have found it effective to block troublesome emails for some length of
> time, usually 6 months does it.

http://instantrimshot.com/

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Re: (ot) Blocking IPs

2012-11-01 Thread Matt Quackenbush

Heh. :-)


On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 2:30 PM, Cameron Childress wrote:

>
> I have found it effective to block troublesome emails for some length of
> time, usually 6 months does it.
>
> On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 3:25 PM, Matt Quackenbush  >wrote:
>
> > You do realize that the post you replied to is 6 months old, right?
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 2:21 PM, Jenny Gavin-Wear <
> > jenn...@fasttrackonline.co.uk> wrote:
> > > I have found it effective to block troublesome IPs for some length of
> > time, usually an hour to a day does it.
> >
>
> ...
>
>
> 

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Re: (ot) Blocking IPs

2012-11-01 Thread Cameron Childress

I have found it effective to block troublesome emails for some length of
time, usually 6 months does it.

On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 3:25 PM, Matt Quackenbush wrote:

> You do realize that the post you replied to is 6 months old, right?
>
> On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 2:21 PM, Jenny Gavin-Wear <
> jenn...@fasttrackonline.co.uk> wrote:
> > I have found it effective to block troublesome IPs for some length of
> time, usually an hour to a day does it.
>

...


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Re: (ot) Blocking IPs

2012-11-01 Thread Matt Quackenbush

You do realize that the post you replied to is 6 months old, right?


On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 2:21 PM, Jenny Gavin-Wear <
jenn...@fasttrackonline.co.uk> wrote:

>
> I have found it effective to block troublesome IPs for some length of time,
> usually an hour to a day does it.
>
> This was my security policy as an IT Manager and it is working fine on my
> dedicated server.
>
> Hope this helps!
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Robert Harrison [mailto:rob...@austin-williams.com]
> Sent: 02 May 2012 13:51
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: (ot) Blocking IPs
>
>
> I have a host who, for the most part, I am satisfied with. However, he is
> in
> the habit of blocking IP ranges for various reasons... DDOS attacks,
> repeated port scans, etc.  I've had complaints from some of my clients who
> do international business that some people cannot access their sites other
> parts of the world, like places in Asia, the Middle East, South and Central
> America, etc. I'm not surprised at the complaints.
>
> Is this a normal practice, or is this host over-zealous?
>
>
>
> Robert Harrison
> Director of Interactive Services
>
> Austin & Williams
> Advertising I Branding I Digital I Direct
> 125 Kennedy Drive,  Suite 100   I  Hauppauge, NY 11788 T 631.231.6600 X
> 119
>   F 631.434.7022 http://www.austin-williams.com
>
> Blog:  http://www.austin-williams.com/blog
> Twitter:  http://www.twitter.com/austin_
>
>
>
> 

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RE: (ot) Blocking IPs

2012-11-01 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

I have found it effective to block troublesome IPs for some length of time,
usually an hour to a day does it.

This was my security policy as an IT Manager and it is working fine on my
dedicated server.

Hope this helps!

-Original Message-
From: Robert Harrison [mailto:rob...@austin-williams.com] 
Sent: 02 May 2012 13:51
To: cf-talk
Subject: (ot) Blocking IPs


I have a host who, for the most part, I am satisfied with. However, he is in
the habit of blocking IP ranges for various reasons... DDOS attacks,
repeated port scans, etc.  I've had complaints from some of my clients who
do international business that some people cannot access their sites other
parts of the world, like places in Asia, the Middle East, South and Central
America, etc. I'm not surprised at the complaints.

Is this a normal practice, or is this host over-zealous?



Robert Harrison
Director of Interactive Services

Austin & Williams
Advertising I Branding I Digital I Direct
125 Kennedy Drive,  Suite 100   I  Hauppauge, NY 11788 T 631.231.6600 X 119
  F 631.434.7022 http://www.austin-williams.com

Blog:  http://www.austin-williams.com/blog
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Re: (ot) Blocking IPs

2012-05-02 Thread Byron Mann

We've certainly never done this as a permanent solution. Blocking IPs or
ranges at the firewall wouldn't do much under a heavy DDOS, by the time the
traffic is there it's probably saturating other parts of the hosts network.

Better avenue would be to null route the destination IP on the edge routers
and work with upstream providers to determine the source and have them
block and/or shutdown the source.  Null routing mitigates most of the
effect of the DDOS on the rest of your network.

Either way blocking at the firewall or null routing destinations would be
temporary until the upstream provider could deal with things.

I'd bet $1.50 that your host really doesn't understand mitigation or is
hosting in another providers data center and doesn't have access to the
core network gear.

Also sounds like maybe they've had other customers complain about spam from
specific IPs and did this as a quick fix.

Byron Mann
Lead Engineer and Architect
HostMySite.com



On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 8:51 AM, Robert Harrison
wrote:

>
> I have a host who, for the most part, I am satisfied with. However, he is
> in the habit of blocking IP ranges for various reasons... DDOS attacks,
> repeated port scans, etc.  I've had complaints from some of my clients who
> do international business that some people cannot access their sites other
> parts of the world, like places in Asia, the Middle East, South and Central
> America, etc. I'm not surprised at the complaints.
>
> Is this a normal practice, or is this host over-zealous?
>
>
>
> Robert Harrison
> Director of Interactive Services
>
> Austin & Williams
> Advertising I Branding I Digital I Direct
> 125 Kennedy Drive,  Suite 100   I  Hauppauge, NY 11788
> T 631.231.6600 X 119   F 631.434.7022
> http://www.austin-williams.com
>
> Blog:  http://www.austin-williams.com/blog
> Twitter:  http://www.twitter.com/austin_
>
> 

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Re: (ot) Blocking IPs

2012-05-02 Thread Dave Watts

> I'm having conversations with my ISP about removing the blocks now. He is 
> resistant, but the consensus is against blanket IP blocking.

Well, one thing to note here is that it's easier for big ISPs to not
block IP blocks than small ones - big ISPs, by having more bandwidth,
more hosts to respond, etc, may have higher tolerance for higher
amounts of traffic (whether that traffic is legitimate or not).

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RE: (ot) Blocking IPs

2012-05-02 Thread Robert Harrison

Well, I've checked with some contacts I have who are experts in security.  One 
of them works in internet security for the DOD in Arlington, VA, one is the 
Security Director at a fortune 100 company, and one owns a large nationwide 
hosting company. All frowned on the practice of blocking port 80 by range of IP 
and said it's rare and extreme to totally block even a specific IP, but that it 
does happen. All thought that blocking mail traffic by IP was very normal.

I'm having conversations with my ISP about removing the blocks now. He is 
resistant, but the consensus is against blanket IP blocking.

Robert Harrison 
Director of Interactive Services

Austin & Williams
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Re: (ot) Blocking IPs

2012-05-02 Thread Dave Watts

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_address_spoofing

That is only useful for very specific, limited sorts of things. You
can't carry on a conversation with a remote server using a spoofed IP
address, because the server would have no way to respond. If you're
concerned about blocking spam email, for example, you don't have to
worry about people sending email through a spoofed IP address, because
SMTP is a TCP application, and TCP requires sequence numbers.

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Re: (ot) Blocking IPs

2012-05-02 Thread Justin Scott

> The problem with IP blocking is that 99% of the time the IP
> is a fake IP, and that means that legitimate IP's are and do
> get blocked for no good reason.

It really depends on the type of attack.  If they're just flodding as
part of a DDOS attack then spoofing is viable, but for something like
a SQL injection attack the IP can't be spoofed per se.  In those cases
the biggest problem, in my opinion, is that it is ridiculously easy to
reroute (think TOR) and come from a different, unrelated IP in a
matter of seconds.


-Justin

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Re: (ot) Blocking IPs

2012-05-02 Thread Dave Watts

> The problem with IP blocking is that 99% of the time the IP is a fake IP,

This is not true. If you receive a message from an IP address, and the
attacker's action relies on a response to that IP address, it will not
be a fake IP address. It may not be the original IP address of the
attacker, but it is definitely the IP address of the host connecting
to you.

> and that means that legitimate IP's are and do get blocked for no good
> reason.

This is true, in the sense that they may well be on the same range.
But blocking individual addresses doesn't scale very well, to be
honest.

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Re: (ot) Blocking IPs

2012-05-02 Thread Claude Schnéegans

 >>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_address_spoofing

Thanks.
I can't believe it is that simple.

It would be so simple if the protocol was something like:
- sender: I have a message for you my IP is x.x.x.x
- receiver: Ok, here is the key: (UUID)
- sender: Ok, your key is (UUID), here is the message:...



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RE: (ot) Blocking IPs

2012-05-02 Thread Eric Bourland

I run a SmarterMail server, and have blocked a few IPs, very selectively,
only after I notice that consistent spam comes from those IPs that Barracuda
or the other RBLs do not catch. No complaints from clients so far. I don't
block entire countries or regions, though I have heard of administrators who
do so. Some of my clients travel a lot, so I don't block countries.

I send out friendly reminders to my clients to teach them how to recognize
spam and use spam filters in MS Outlook. I hope at least a few people read
them. =)

Perhaps you can have a conversation with your hosting provider about using
RBLs and configuring a firewall to do the spam blocking that he needs.

Eric

-Original Message-
From: Andrew Scott [mailto:andr...@andyscott.id.au] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 7:58 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: (ot) Blocking IPs


The problem with IP blocking is that 99% of the time the IP is a fake IP,
and that means that legitimate IP's are and do get blocked for no good
reason.

Who is the Hosting Provider?

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On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 10:51 PM, Robert Harrison  wrote:

>
> I have a host who, for the most part, I am satisfied with. However, he is
> in the habit of blocking IP ranges for various reasons... DDOS attacks,
> repeated port scans, etc.  I've had complaints from some of my clients who
> do international business that some people cannot access their sites other
> parts of the world, like places in Asia, the Middle East, South and
Central
> America, etc. I'm not surprised at the complaints.
>
> Is this a normal practice, or is this host over-zealous?
>
>
>
> Robert Harrison
> Director of Interactive Services
>
> Austin & Williams
> Advertising I Branding I Digital I Direct
> 125 Kennedy Drive,  Suite 100   I  Hauppauge, NY 11788
> T 631.231.6600 X 119   F 631.434.7022
> http://www.austin-williams.com
>
> Blog:  http://www.austin-williams.com/blog
> Twitter:  http://www.twitter.com/austin_
>
> 



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Re: (ot) Blocking IPs

2012-05-02 Thread John M Bliss

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_address_spoofing

On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 8:29 AM, <> wrote:

>
>  >>The problem with IP blocking is that 99% of the time the IP is a fake
> IP,
>
> I'm not a protocol specialist, just curious, but how can an IP be forged?
>
> 

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Re: (ot) Blocking IPs

2012-05-02 Thread Claude Schnéegans

 >>The problem with IP blocking is that 99% of the time the IP is a fake IP,

I'm not a protocol specialist, just curious, but how can an IP be forged?

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Re: (ot) Blocking IPs

2012-05-02 Thread Andrew Scott

The problem with IP blocking is that 99% of the time the IP is a fake IP,
and that means that legitimate IP's are and do get blocked for no good
reason.

Who is the Hosting Provider?

-- 
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Andrew Scott
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On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 10:51 PM, Robert Harrison  wrote:

>
> I have a host who, for the most part, I am satisfied with. However, he is
> in the habit of blocking IP ranges for various reasons... DDOS attacks,
> repeated port scans, etc.  I've had complaints from some of my clients who
> do international business that some people cannot access their sites other
> parts of the world, like places in Asia, the Middle East, South and Central
> America, etc. I'm not surprised at the complaints.
>
> Is this a normal practice, or is this host over-zealous?
>
>
>
> Robert Harrison
> Director of Interactive Services
>
> Austin & Williams
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Re: (ot) Blocking IPs

2012-05-02 Thread John M Bliss

Sounds over-zealous. Before I even block a single IP, I'll query my DB to
try to determine whether valid traffic *ever* came from that IP. And, in
general, blocking IP's is a last resort.

I've never blocked a range.

There're better ways to prevent the stuff he's trying to prevent. He should
have a firewall that's smart/configurable enough to detect and prevent that
stuff at a granular level.


On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 7:51 AM, Robert Harrison
wrote:

>
> I have a host who, for the most part, I am satisfied with. However, he is
> in the habit of blocking IP ranges for various reasons... DDOS attacks,
> repeated port scans, etc.  I've had complaints from some of my clients who
> do international business that some people cannot access their sites other
> parts of the world, like places in Asia, the Middle East, South and Central
> America, etc. I'm not surprised at the complaints.
>
> Is this a normal practice, or is this host over-zealous?
>
>
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