RE: [HTML Email Detection]
You should use multipart email as mentioned, IMS is good for that, this will work on MOST email clients whether plaintext or html. However, if you want to actually detect who can read HTML emails, you need to include an image in the HTML part of the email, that not only points to script on your server, but also includes the recipient's email address. That way, if when they read the email they view the HTML version you will recieve a 'hit' on your site, and you can record this in the knowledge that they are HTML-capable. Seth Ward www.ifirms.com -Original Message- From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 07 April 2001 15:09 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: [HTML Email Detection] Yes, our tag does do that. However, it only sends mail through an iMS server and not the CFMail spool. Regards, Howie - Original Message - From: "Jason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2001 3:46 AM Subject: RE: [HTML Email Detection] > Check with Howie at Coolfusion.com he has a CFX_ImsMail tag that I believe > will allow you to send both HTML/Plain and let the users mail server or > browser choose on the other end. Haven't tested this myself but I think it > can do it. > ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: [HTML Email Detection]
Yes, our tag does do that. However, it only sends mail through an iMS server and not the CFMail spool. Regards, Howie - Original Message - From: "Jason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2001 3:46 AM Subject: RE: [HTML Email Detection] > Check with Howie at Coolfusion.com he has a CFX_ImsMail tag that I believe > will allow you to send both HTML/Plain and let the users mail server or > browser choose on the other end. Haven't tested this myself but I think it > can do it. > ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: [HTML Email Detection]
Check with Howie at Coolfusion.com he has a CFX_ImsMail tag that I believe will allow you to send both HTML/Plain and let the users mail server or browser choose on the other end. Haven't tested this myself but I think it can do it. -Original Message- From: Bernd VanSkiver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 12:45 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: [HTML Email Detection] Only way I can think that there could be come client detection is if the client supported HTML because otherwise it is not going to run any scripts at all. Only way to really do it is to ask the client which type they can/would prefer to receive. "Kevin Schmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I want to send HTML enabled email with CFMAIL but I wan't to filter on > whether the clients email browser accepts HTML email. Is there a way to do > this with CF? I don't think there is. What about on the client side could > they trigger an event with JS or VBS when they open the mail that detects > whether or not their email browser can render HTML? > > Thanks for the help. > > Kevin Schmidt, Web Technology Manager > Allaire Certified ColdFusion Developer > pwb inc. > integrated marketing communications > 350 S. Main St., Suite 350 > Ann Arbor, MI 48104 > 734.995.5000 (tel) > 734.995.5002 (fax) > www.pwb.com > > > > > ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: HTML Email Detection
The format of the MIME-encoded message would have both plain text and an HTML portion like: -- other headers -- MIME Boundary=SomeBoundary -- email starts here -- --SomeBoundary type=text/plain Here is my plain text message --SomeBoundary type=text/html Here is my HTML message --SomeBoundary-- If you analyze a message sent from Outlook in HTML format you will see the above message format. Regards, Howie - Original Message - From: "Robert Everland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 4:09 PM Subject: RE: HTML Email Detection > How do you send more than one format with mime encoded? > > Robert Everland III > Web Developer > Dixon Ticonderoga > > > -Original Message- > From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 3:36 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: HTML Email Detection > > > This operation is basically the same as when you detect a client's web > browser. Most modern email clients send a header (X-Mailer) indicating the > email client type. Here's an example: > > X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 > > So, there are several caveats: > > 1 - you must have already received an email from the intended recipient > > 2 - you must have already parsed out the X-Mailer header > > 3 - you need a list of the capabilities of each type of mail client > > One way to attempt to satisfy most email clients (most but definitely not > all) is to send the mail in both formats within the same MIME-encoded email > message. > > Or - you can do this the old-fashioned way - ask the user what format they > wish to receive mail in and keep a database of their preferences. > > HTH, > > Howie Hamlin - inFusion Project Manager > On-Line Data Solutions, Inc. > www.CoolFusion.com > 631-737-4668 x101 > inFusion Mail Server (iMS) - the World's most configurable mail server > > > - Original Message - > From: "Kevin Schmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 4:09 PM > Subject: HTML Email Detection > > > > I want to send HTML enabled email with CFMAIL but I wan't to filter on > > whether the clients email browser accepts HTML email. Is there a way to > do > > this with CF? I don't think there is. What about on the client side > could > > they trigger an event with JS or VBS when they open the mail that detects > > whether or not their email browser can render HTML? > > > > Thanks for the help. > > > > Kevin Schmidt, Web Technology Manager > > Allaire Certified ColdFusion Developer > > pwb inc. > > integrated marketing communications > > 350 S. Main St., Suite 350 > > Ann Arbor, MI 48104 > > 734.995.5000 (tel) > > 734.995.5002 (fax) > > www.pwb.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: HTML Email Detection
How do you send more than one format with mime encoded? Robert Everland III Web Developer Dixon Ticonderoga -Original Message- From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 3:36 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: HTML Email Detection This operation is basically the same as when you detect a client's web browser. Most modern email clients send a header (X-Mailer) indicating the email client type. Here's an example: X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 So, there are several caveats: 1 - you must have already received an email from the intended recipient 2 - you must have already parsed out the X-Mailer header 3 - you need a list of the capabilities of each type of mail client One way to attempt to satisfy most email clients (most but definitely not all) is to send the mail in both formats within the same MIME-encoded email message. Or - you can do this the old-fashioned way - ask the user what format they wish to receive mail in and keep a database of their preferences. HTH, Howie Hamlin - inFusion Project Manager On-Line Data Solutions, Inc. www.CoolFusion.com 631-737-4668 x101 inFusion Mail Server (iMS) - the World's most configurable mail server - Original Message - From: "Kevin Schmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 4:09 PM Subject: HTML Email Detection > I want to send HTML enabled email with CFMAIL but I wan't to filter on > whether the clients email browser accepts HTML email. Is there a way to do > this with CF? I don't think there is. What about on the client side could > they trigger an event with JS or VBS when they open the mail that detects > whether or not their email browser can render HTML? > > Thanks for the help. > > Kevin Schmidt, Web Technology Manager > Allaire Certified ColdFusion Developer > pwb inc. > integrated marketing communications > 350 S. Main St., Suite 350 > Ann Arbor, MI 48104 > 734.995.5000 (tel) > 734.995.5002 (fax) > www.pwb.com > > > > > > ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: HTML Email Detection
All I have is a comma delimited list of email addresses from the client. - Original Message - From: "Semrau, Steven L Mr SRA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 2:23 PM Subject: RE: HTML Email Detection > First thought would be to ask that question on your form. If 'yes' then > create the HTML enabled version, else create Plain Text. > > Steven Semrau > SRA International, Inc. > Senior Member, Professional Staff > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Com: (703) 805-1095 > DSN: (703) 655-1095 > > > -Original Message- > From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 4:10 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: HTML Email Detection > > > I want to send HTML enabled email with CFMAIL but I wan't to filter on > whether the clients email browser accepts HTML email. Is there a way to do > this with CF? I don't think there is. What about on the client side could > they trigger an event with JS or VBS when they open the mail that detects > whether or not their email browser can render HTML? > > Thanks for the help. > > Kevin Schmidt, Web Technology Manager > Allaire Certified ColdFusion Developer > pwb inc. > integrated marketing communications > 350 S. Main St., Suite 350 > Ann Arbor, MI 48104 > 734.995.5000 (tel) > 734.995.5002 (fax) > www.pwb.com > ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: HTML Email Detection
Hi, There is no guarentee that the users email supports html even if their brower does. Lanny Udey Hofstra University >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] Friday, April 06, 2001 >>> I want to send HTML enabled email with CFMAIL but I wan't to filter on whether the clients email browser accepts HTML email. Is there a way to do this with CF? I don't think there is. What about on the client side could they trigger an event with JS or VBS when they open the mail that detects whether or not their email browser can render HTML? Thanks for the help. Kevin Schmidt, Web Technology Manager Allaire Certified ColdFusion Developer pwb inc. integrated marketing communications 350 S. Main St., Suite 350 Ann Arbor, MI 48104 734.995.5000 (tel) 734.995.5002 (fax) www.pwb.com ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: HTML Email Detection
Well, maybe it's not quite the same, but I sort of took care of it on the back end. In my database, I placed a yes/no field to check if they had html email, the default setting was 'no', so any new person added to the database was automatically sent a 'welcome' mail when they were added letting them know that they've been added to a amiling list, and they will be recieving text based email newsletters. If the user has the ability to view html formatted emails, they simply click on a link which takes them to a page that switches that yes/no to 'yes', then generates a html confirmation email. That way it's all fairly automatic, and you don't have to do anything... Sound like it might work? on 4/6/01 4:09 PM, Kevin Schmidt at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I want to send HTML enabled email with CFMAIL but I wan't to filter on > whether the clients email browser accepts HTML email. Is there a way to do > this with CF? I don't think there is. What about on the client side could > they trigger an event with JS or VBS when they open the mail that detects > whether or not their email browser can render HTML? > > Thanks for the help. > > Kevin Schmidt, Web Technology Manager > Allaire Certified ColdFusion Developer > pwb inc. > integrated marketing communications > 350 S. Main St., Suite 350 > Ann Arbor, MI 48104 > 734.995.5000 (tel) > 734.995.5002 (fax) > www.pwb.com > > > > > ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: [HTML Email Detection]
Only way I can think that there could be come client detection is if the client supported HTML because otherwise it is not going to run any scripts at all. Only way to really do it is to ask the client which type they can/would prefer to receive. "Kevin Schmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I want to send HTML enabled email with CFMAIL but I wan't to filter on > whether the clients email browser accepts HTML email. Is there a way to do > this with CF? I don't think there is. What about on the client side could > they trigger an event with JS or VBS when they open the mail that detects > whether or not their email browser can render HTML? > > Thanks for the help. > > Kevin Schmidt, Web Technology Manager > Allaire Certified ColdFusion Developer > pwb inc. > integrated marketing communications > 350 S. Main St., Suite 350 > Ann Arbor, MI 48104 > 734.995.5000 (tel) > 734.995.5002 (fax) > www.pwb.com > > > > > ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: HTML Email Detection
This operation is basically the same as when you detect a client's web browser. Most modern email clients send a header (X-Mailer) indicating the email client type. Here's an example: X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 So, there are several caveats: 1 - you must have already received an email from the intended recipient 2 - you must have already parsed out the X-Mailer header 3 - you need a list of the capabilities of each type of mail client One way to attempt to satisfy most email clients (most but definitely not all) is to send the mail in both formats within the same MIME-encoded email message. Or - you can do this the old-fashioned way - ask the user what format they wish to receive mail in and keep a database of their preferences. HTH, Howie Hamlin - inFusion Project Manager On-Line Data Solutions, Inc. www.CoolFusion.com 631-737-4668 x101 inFusion Mail Server (iMS) - the World's most configurable mail server - Original Message - From: "Kevin Schmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 4:09 PM Subject: HTML Email Detection > I want to send HTML enabled email with CFMAIL but I wan't to filter on > whether the clients email browser accepts HTML email. Is there a way to do > this with CF? I don't think there is. What about on the client side could > they trigger an event with JS or VBS when they open the mail that detects > whether or not their email browser can render HTML? > > Thanks for the help. > > Kevin Schmidt, Web Technology Manager > Allaire Certified ColdFusion Developer > pwb inc. > integrated marketing communications > 350 S. Main St., Suite 350 > Ann Arbor, MI 48104 > 734.995.5000 (tel) > 734.995.5002 (fax) > www.pwb.com > > > > > > ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: HTML Email Detection
Don't think so. There have been threads on this in the past. Some people figure they can parse headers and stuff, but that is messy at best. In my opinion, if the big sites still ask you to specify when joining a mailing list, there isn't a good way of doing it, or they would have . James -Original Message- From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 4:10 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: HTML Email Detection I want to send HTML enabled email with CFMAIL but I wan't to filter on whether the clients email browser accepts HTML email. Is there a way to do this with CF? I don't think there is. What about on the client side could they trigger an event with JS or VBS when they open the mail that detects whether or not their email browser can render HTML? Thanks for the help. Kevin Schmidt, Web Technology Manager Allaire Certified ColdFusion Developer pwb inc. integrated marketing communications 350 S. Main St., Suite 350 Ann Arbor, MI 48104 734.995.5000 (tel) 734.995.5002 (fax) www.pwb.com ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: HTML Email Detection
First thought would be to ask that question on your form. If 'yes' then create the HTML enabled version, else create Plain Text. Steven Semrau SRA International, Inc. Senior Member, Professional Staff [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Com: (703) 805-1095 DSN: (703) 655-1095 -Original Message- From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 4:10 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: HTML Email Detection I want to send HTML enabled email with CFMAIL but I wan't to filter on whether the clients email browser accepts HTML email. Is there a way to do this with CF? I don't think there is. What about on the client side could they trigger an event with JS or VBS when they open the mail that detects whether or not their email browser can render HTML? Thanks for the help. Kevin Schmidt, Web Technology Manager Allaire Certified ColdFusion Developer pwb inc. integrated marketing communications 350 S. Main St., Suite 350 Ann Arbor, MI 48104 734.995.5000 (tel) 734.995.5002 (fax) www.pwb.com ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
