Re: A year as a ColdFusion developer... now what?

2008-08-23 Thread Brian Swartzfager
@Mike:  Did you read his blog post?  He said he quit his job because he felt he 
wasn't getting on-the-job opportunities to expand his CF skills and he wanted 
to get a job where he could learn from experienced CF developers.  He's not 
under the delusion that he knows all there is to know about CF; he wants an 
opportunity to learn more.

@Henry: I have to agree with some of the other folks who've responded that it 
may be difficult to find a new CF position with only 1-year of experience (even 
though it sounds like you've got at least a handle on MG, ColdSpring, and 
Transfer), but I do hope you can find a new CF job.
 

>Do you honestly think that with a year developing coldfusion under
>your belt, that you know all there is to know that's worth knowing?
>
>If so, then it's time to find a new career or a new branch of this one.
>
>However I suspect that in truth you've barely scratched the surface.
>If you're only doing the same things day after day, you're probably
>not gaining any experience.Perhaps you need some different
>projects to work on.   Ask your boss to assign you something different
>or something a bit more challenging.  IF that isnt a possibilty, then
>perhaps you should look to work somewhere else.
>
>But before you do anything drastic, i suggest you do this:Pull up
>some code you worked on a year ago.   Have a look at the way you did
>whatever it was..   would you do it the same way now if you were given
>that job today?If so, you havent learned nary a thing in that
>time.   If not, you can now see how far you've come. Those of us
>who have been coding ColdFusion for a while (and for me it's more than
>a decade) can still look back a year and see how we've changed our
>methods in teh last year.
>
>What i'm saying is,  apply this little test to yourself.   If you're
>not growing in your development skills, it's no wonder you think you
>have learned all you need to know, and you need to get out of your
>comfort zone and expose yourself to new problems to solve.
>
>I really find it hard to believe that after only a year, you're at the
>limit of your skills, and there's nothing new you can learn
>
>
>Cheers
>Mike Kear
>Windsor, NSW, Australia
>Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer
>AFP Webworks
>http://afpwebworks.com
>ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month 

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Re: A year as a ColdFusion developer... now what?

2008-08-22 Thread Mike Kear
Do you honestly think that with a year developing coldfusion under
your belt, that you know all there is to know that's worth knowing?

If so, then it's time to find a new career or a new branch of this one.

However I suspect that in truth you've barely scratched the surface.
If you're only doing the same things day after day, you're probably
not gaining any experience.Perhaps you need some different
projects to work on.   Ask your boss to assign you something different
or something a bit more challenging.  IF that isnt a possibilty, then
perhaps you should look to work somewhere else.

But before you do anything drastic, i suggest you do this:Pull up
some code you worked on a year ago.   Have a look at the way you did
whatever it was..   would you do it the same way now if you were given
that job today?If so, you havent learned nary a thing in that
time.   If not, you can now see how far you've come. Those of us
who have been coding ColdFusion for a while (and for me it's more than
a decade) can still look back a year and see how we've changed our
methods in teh last year.

What i'm saying is,  apply this little test to yourself.   If you're
not growing in your development skills, it's no wonder you think you
have learned all you need to know, and you need to get out of your
comfort zone and expose yourself to new problems to solve.

I really find it hard to believe that after only a year, you're at the
limit of your skills, and there's nothing new you can learn


Cheers
Mike Kear
Windsor, NSW, Australia
Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer
AFP Webworks
http://afpwebworks.com
ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month

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Re: A year as a ColdFusion developer... now what?

2008-08-22 Thread s. isaac dealey
> It might be a non-technical question, but it IS a career one, and I think
> that's well worth the consideration of everyone on this list. 

There is however also a cf-jobs-talk list on houseoffusion that's
probably more appropriate for this kind of question... I don't
personally mind this being posted here, I'm just saying. :) 


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Re: A year as a ColdFusion developer... now what?

2008-08-22 Thread Doug Brown
Might not be the suggestion that you like, but I always find myself pretty
much a pointed person. Why would you quit your job? I like to think that
with the proper persuasion, you can get companies like the one you were
working for to come around to your way of thinking and get them to try and
experience new ways of doing things. The company I worked for was dead set
on using this ancient dinosaur of an application, but once I was able to
show them what the new world could look like they were excited at the
prospect of change. You have one year of CF under your belt and in order to
get those great wages and great contracts you really need at least five
years of solid CF development. You look like a young guy, so time is on your
side. Find a halfway descent CF job and keep it until you have the
experience to move on to bigger and better things and take the time whiole
you are there to learn other languages.

Good Luck


Doug

On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 3:23 PM, Phillip M. Vector <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Umm.. Get more years of CF under your light belt? :) 1 year experience
> won't really help much when it comes to your career.
>
> henry ho wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I'm lost in my career path and I need your advice.  What should I do
> after a year of CF under my light belt?
> >
> >
> http://henrylearnstorock.blogspot.com/2008/08/life-as-new-coldfusion-developer.html
> >
> > Please give it a quick read and I'd really appreciate if you can leave me
> a comment on the blog to enlighten me.
> >
> >
> > Thank you very much, sorry for posting a non-technical question.
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: A year as a ColdFusion developer... now what?

2008-08-22 Thread Phillip M. Vector
Umm.. Get more years of CF under your light belt? :) 1 year experience 
won't really help much when it comes to your career.

henry ho wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I'm lost in my career path and I need your advice.  What should I do after a 
> year of CF under my light belt?
> 
> http://henrylearnstorock.blogspot.com/2008/08/life-as-new-coldfusion-developer.html
> 
> Please give it a quick read and I'd really appreciate if you can leave me a 
> comment on the blog to enlighten me.
> 
> 
> Thank you very much, sorry for posting a non-technical question. 
> 
> 

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RE: A year as a ColdFusion developer... now what?

2008-08-22 Thread Andy Matthews
Henry...

It might be a non-technical question, but it IS a career one, and I think
that's well worth the consideration of everyone on this list. 

-Original Message-
From: henry ho [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 4:11 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: A year as a ColdFusion developer... now what?

Hi all,

I'm lost in my career path and I need your advice.  What should I do after a
year of CF under my light belt?

http://henrylearnstorock.blogspot.com/2008/08/life-as-new-coldfusion-develop
er.html

Please give it a quick read and I'd really appreciate if you can leave me a
comment on the blog to enlighten me.


Thank you very much, sorry for posting a non-technical question. 



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