Re: Announce: Advanced ColdFusion Contest
Having already built something exactly like this for anti-spam work, I can say that just about every rule I have is a Regular Expression. The only rules that aren't are the len(from), len(to), len(subject) rules. The issue of Regular Expressions is control. How can you check if there are pound signs in a CFSET or CFIF if you don't know what the boundaries of those tags are? You can do a find to get the start, a find to get the end and then search between those two points, but that's so much extra work where a single, elegant Regular Expression would do. > On that note, do you think some of the rules for the engine would need > to be something other than regular expressions? > > Steve > > >And just so it's clear - I'm more than cool with folks talking about > >the contest. The point isn't to win the prizes - but more to attempt > >to solve the problem,and to share your results with others. Then my > >readers and I slowly pick apart the entries. ;) Seriously though - > the > >point is to share so we can all learn. I think a lot can be learned > by > >seeing how other people solve problems. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:243214 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Announce: Advanced ColdFusion Contest
On Monday 12 June 2006 16:06, Steve Bryant wrote:
> On that note, do you think some of the rules for the engine would need to
> be something other than regular expressions?
I would imagine so.
You want to be able to say more complicated things, rather than just:
if (doICareAbout(this.name){
if (reFind(variables.regExp, fileContent)){
return variables.match;
}else{
return variables.nomatch;
}
}
Although, writing that, I can see how you could easily have a way of
registering tuples of (name,regExp,ifMatches,ifNotMatches) into a parser
module, that would loop over all files, for all registered regExp. doing the
above code.
And that would probably do.
Can anyone think of more complicated tests that *wouldn't* be covered by
that ?
Though, of course, you just then write a parser for that sort of test, and
have a parser runner run all the registered parser types, which run all the
tests registered in that type.
I claim dips on this method :-)
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Re: Announce: Advanced ColdFusion Contest
Sure. I'm not saying anything about the rules or how they are written. You can have it use a web service. You can have it use a trained monkey. Up to you. The main point of this exercise concerns extensibility. Ie, how can I build an application that is easy to update, or so easy that the community could write modules and they could just be dropped in. On 6/12/06, Steve Bryant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On that note, do you think some of the rules for the engine would need to be > something other than regular expressions? > > Steve > > >And just so it's clear - I'm more than cool with folks talking about > >the contest. The point isn't to win the prizes - but more to attempt > >to solve the problem,and to share your results with others. Then my > >readers and I slowly pick apart the entries. ;) Seriously though - the > >point is to share so we can all learn. I think a lot can be learned by > >seeing how other people solve problems. > > ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:243206 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Announce: Advanced ColdFusion Contest
On that note, do you think some of the rules for the engine would need to be something other than regular expressions? Steve >And just so it's clear - I'm more than cool with folks talking about >the contest. The point isn't to win the prizes - but more to attempt >to solve the problem,and to share your results with others. Then my >readers and I slowly pick apart the entries. ;) Seriously though - the >point is to share so we can all learn. I think a lot can be learned by >seeing how other people solve problems. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:243205 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Announce: Advanced ColdFusion Contest
And just so it's clear - I'm more than cool with folks talking about the contest. The point isn't to win the prizes - but more to attempt to solve the problem,and to share your results with others. Then my readers and I slowly pick apart the entries. ;) Seriously though - the point is to share so we can all learn. I think a lot can be learned by seeing how other people solve problems. On 6/12/06, Michael Dinowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just as a reminder to CF-Talk readers, there is a Regular Expressions list on > House of Fusion where you can ask some of the coding questions that will come > up in this contest. > http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/regex > > In addition, I was the technical editor on a GREAT introductory book on > Regular Expressions by our own Ben Forta: > Sams Teach Yourself Regular Expressions in 10 Minutes > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0672325667/houseoffusion > > Good luck with the contest > ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:243202 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Announce: Advanced ColdFusion Contest
Just as a reminder to CF-Talk readers, there is a Regular Expressions list on House of Fusion where you can ask some of the coding questions that will come up in this contest. http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/regex In addition, I was the technical editor on a GREAT introductory book on Regular Expressions by our own Ben Forta: Sams Teach Yourself Regular Expressions in 10 Minutes http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0672325667/houseoffusion Good luck with the contest Michael Dinowitz President: House of Fusion http://www.houseoffusion.com Publisher: Fusion Authority http://www.fusionauthority.com Adobe Community Expert >It was suggested that I post this here. For those who read my blog, >please pardon the dupe. > >I recently announced a new ColdFusion contest at my blog: > >http://ray.camdenfamily.com/index.cfm/2006/6/11/Advanced-ColdFusion-Contest-Announced > >This contest is open to anyone at all, and beginners/intermediate >developers should not shy away just because of the "advanced" >description. Details are at the blog, but the basic idea is to build a >"rules" engine for checking ColdFusion code. > >-- >=== >Raymond Camden, Vice President of Technology for roundpeg > >Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Blog : ray.camdenfamily.com >AOL IM : cfjedimaster > >"My ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is." - Yoda ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:243201 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
