Re: BEA licenses BlueDragon for WebLogic

2006-04-20 Thread Thomas Chiverton
On Wednesday 19 April 2006 16:26, Russ Michaels wrote:
> I have seen several benefits.

Don't get me wrong, I think it's a Good Thing.
I'm not going to be writting anything that uses BD only tags though - look 
where doing that with IE got us a few years back :-)

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RE: BEA licenses BlueDragon for WebLogic

2006-04-19 Thread Turetsky, Seth
Even if there are more bugs(which I wouldn't know), NewAtlanta's tech support 
has been amazing supporting Weblogic.  On a few cases for us, they recreated 
the bug and had a hotfix for us within a few days.

I'm not sure if Adobe would do that for us, that just seemed the case between 
versions 6.0 and 6.1(which was the last version we used)

-Original Message-
From: Andy Allan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 11:51 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: BEA licenses BlueDragon for WebLogic


We're talking about running on WebLogic, so the points about
ServletExec and .NET are irrelevant (though true). Plus, being that's
it's a new product, BD for WebLogic, you can't guarantee there are
less bugs.

Andy

On 19/04/06, Russ Michaels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have seen several benefits.
> It has some extra tags and fucntionality, less bugs, and a smaller
> footprint if using ServetExec, and the support is better.
> Plus it runs on .NET :-)
>
> Russ
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Thomas Chiverton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: CF-Talk 
> Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 10:37:05 +0100
> Subject: Re: BEA licenses BlueDragon for WebLogic
>
> > On Monday 17 April 2006 19:37, Vince Bonfanti wrote:
> > > Some people might also find it significant that BEA is now
> > essentially a
> > > competitor to Adobe in a portion of the ColdFusion server market
> > (that
> > > "portion" being people who are now or are planning to redeploy
> > existing
> > > CFML applications onto WebLogic servers).
> >
> > We already run MX on Weblogic. This is a supported configuration and
> > works
> > great.
> > When we last looked, BD was about the same* price for a J2EE version as
> > MX. It
> > appears that since then BD has improved it's compatability with legacy
> > CFML
> > code since then, however, it's still the same cost with no extra
> > benefit.
> >
> > Don't mind me though, I'm about to change employers :-)
> >
> > --
> >
> > Tom Chiverton
> > Advanced ColdFusion Programmer
> >
> >
>
> 



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Re: BEA licenses BlueDragon for WebLogic

2006-04-19 Thread Rey Bango
> Like we need a reason to drink beer!! Ha :-)

Reasons?!?! We don't need no stinkin' reasons! ;)

Rey...

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Re: BEA licenses BlueDragon for WebLogic

2006-04-19 Thread Andy Allan
Just to clarify, I think this is an excellent move by NewAtlanta.

In fact, I would have been buying my two BlueDragon buddies beer this
weekend to celebrate if it weren't for the fact I'm stuck in work.
Like we need a reason to drink beer!! Ha :-)

Andy

On 19/04/06, Rey Bango <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> How about we all take it for what its worth; an announcement of a new
> option for the CF community. I think options are a good thing.
>
> Rey...
>
> Andy Allan wrote:
> > We're talking about running on WebLogic, so the points about
> > ServletExec and .NET are irrelevant (though true). Plus, being that's
> > it's a new product, BD for WebLogic, you can't guarantee there are
> > less bugs.
> >
> > Andy
> >
>
> 

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Re: BEA licenses BlueDragon for WebLogic

2006-04-19 Thread Rey Bango
How about we all take it for what its worth; an announcement of a new 
option for the CF community. I think options are a good thing.

Rey...

Andy Allan wrote:
> We're talking about running on WebLogic, so the points about
> ServletExec and .NET are irrelevant (though true). Plus, being that's
> it's a new product, BD for WebLogic, you can't guarantee there are
> less bugs.
> 
> Andy
> 

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Re: BEA licenses BlueDragon for WebLogic

2006-04-19 Thread Andy Allan
We're talking about running on WebLogic, so the points about
ServletExec and .NET are irrelevant (though true). Plus, being that's
it's a new product, BD for WebLogic, you can't guarantee there are
less bugs.

Andy

On 19/04/06, Russ Michaels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have seen several benefits.
> It has some extra tags and fucntionality, less bugs, and a smaller
> footprint if using ServetExec, and the support is better.
> Plus it runs on .NET :-)
>
> Russ
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Thomas Chiverton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: CF-Talk 
> Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 10:37:05 +0100
> Subject: Re: BEA licenses BlueDragon for WebLogic
>
> > On Monday 17 April 2006 19:37, Vince Bonfanti wrote:
> > > Some people might also find it significant that BEA is now
> > essentially a
> > > competitor to Adobe in a portion of the ColdFusion server market
> > (that
> > > "portion" being people who are now or are planning to redeploy
> > existing
> > > CFML applications onto WebLogic servers).
> >
> > We already run MX on Weblogic. This is a supported configuration and
> > works
> > great.
> > When we last looked, BD was about the same* price for a J2EE version as
> > MX. It
> > appears that since then BD has improved it's compatability with legacy
> > CFML
> > code since then, however, it's still the same cost with no extra
> > benefit.
> >
> > Don't mind me though, I'm about to change employers :-)
> >
> > --
> >
> > Tom Chiverton
> > Advanced ColdFusion Programmer
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: BEA licenses BlueDragon for WebLogic

2006-04-19 Thread Russ Michaels
I have seen several benefits.
It has some extra tags and fucntionality, less bugs, and a smaller
footprint if using ServetExec, and the support is better.
Plus it runs on .NET :-)

Russ

-Original Message-
From: Thomas Chiverton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: CF-Talk 
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 10:37:05 +0100
Subject: Re: BEA licenses BlueDragon for WebLogic

> On Monday 17 April 2006 19:37, Vince Bonfanti wrote:
> > Some people might also find it significant that BEA is now
> essentially a
> > competitor to Adobe in a portion of the ColdFusion server market
> (that
> > "portion" being people who are now or are planning to redeploy
> existing
> > CFML applications onto WebLogic servers).
> 
> We already run MX on Weblogic. This is a supported configuration and
> works 
> great.
> When we last looked, BD was about the same* price for a J2EE version as
> MX. It 
> appears that since then BD has improved it's compatability with legacy
> CFML 
> code since then, however, it's still the same cost with no extra
> benefit.
> 
> Don't mind me though, I'm about to change employers :-)
> 
> -- 
> 
> Tom Chiverton 
> Advanced ColdFusion Programmer
> 
> 

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Re: BEA licenses BlueDragon for WebLogic

2006-04-19 Thread Thomas Chiverton
On Wednesday 19 April 2006 13:18, RADEMAKERS Tanguy wrote:
> You must be luckier than us then - we run MX 6.1 in weblogic and so far,
> "great" is most certainly not the word i'd use to describe it.

*Really* ?
What's up ?

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RE: BEA licenses BlueDragon for WebLogic

2006-04-19 Thread RADEMAKERS Tanguy
>-Original Message-
>We already run MX on Weblogic. This is a supported 
>configuration and works great.

You must be luckier than us then - we run MX 6.1 in weblogic and so far,
"great" is most certainly not the word i'd use to describe it.

/t

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Re: BEA licenses BlueDragon for WebLogic

2006-04-19 Thread Thomas Chiverton
On Monday 17 April 2006 19:37, Vince Bonfanti wrote:
> Some people might also find it significant that BEA is now essentially a
> competitor to Adobe in a portion of the ColdFusion server market (that
> "portion" being people who are now or are planning to redeploy existing
> CFML applications onto WebLogic servers).

We already run MX on Weblogic. This is a supported configuration and works 
great.
When we last looked, BD was about the same* price for a J2EE version as MX. It 
appears that since then BD has improved it's compatability with legacy CFML 
code since then, however, it's still the same cost with no extra benefit.

Don't mind me though, I'm about to change employers :-)

-- 

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Advanced ColdFusion Programmer

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Re: BEA licenses BlueDragon for WebLogic

2006-04-17 Thread John Dowdell
Rastafari wrote:
> what does this have to do with coldfusion?

I was wondering what it had to do with Nick Tong's post "Re: Can't Get 
Network Datasources working in CF 5"... Vince set up the PR as a reply 
to a message in another thread, instead of using that "New Message" 
button in his emailer.

> To: CF-Talk 
> Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 13:29:37 -0400
> References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


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Re: BEA licenses BlueDragon for WebLogic

2006-04-17 Thread Ray Champagne
I think Rastafari has a hair across his butt today.  I wouldn't worry 
about him, he's a punk.

:)

Ray


Jordan Michaels wrote:
> Some of us actually *like* knowing what's going on in the CFML
> community. I don't think Vince's notice was meant as advertising, but
> more of "Here's something significant that's happening in the CFML
> community."
>
> There's a great saying: "Knowledge is Power", and some of us like knowing.
>
> -JM
>
>
>
> Rastafari wrote:
>   
>> I didnt realize that cf-talk was open for advertising.
>>
>> Excellent...
>>
>> ras
>>
>> On 4/17/06, Vince Bonfanti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> 
>>> Good question--I guess I should have put more detail in my original message.
>>> >From the BEA press release: "BlueDragon is designed to help enable 
>>> >customers
>>> to modernize and extend legacy ColdFusion Markup Language (CFML)
>>> applications to run on BEA WebLogic Server, which can thereby allow
>>> companies to reuse existing technology to help meet evolving business
>>> needs."
>>>
>>> If you're looking to run CFML applications on BEA WebLogic, you can now buy
>>> a solution directly from BEA.
>>>
>>> Some people might also find it significant that BEA is now essentially a
>>> competitor to Adobe in a portion of the ColdFusion server market (that
>>> "portion" being people who are now or are planning to redeploy existing CFML
>>> applications onto WebLogic servers).
>>>
>>> Vince
>>>
>>>
>>>   
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: Rastafari [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> Sent: Monday, April 17, 2006 2:29 PM
>>>> To: CF-Talk
>>>> Subject: Re: BEA licenses BlueDragon for WebLogic
>>>>
>>>> what does this have to do with coldfusion?
>>>>
>>>> just wondering?
>>>>
>>>> On 4/17/06, Vince Bonfanti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>> BEA has announced that they've licensed BlueDragon to resell with
>>>>> their WebLogic J2EE server. The rebranded, "BlueDragon, BEA
>>>>>   
>>>> WebLogic
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>> Edition" is being sold and supported by BEA as a BEA
>>>>>   
>>>> product. Links to
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>> press releases and additional details are on my blog:
>>>>>
>>>>>http://blog.newatlanta.com/index.cfm
>>>>>
>>>>> Vince Bonfanti
>>>>> New Atlanta Communications, LLC
>>>>> http://www.newatlanta.com
>>>>>
>>>>>   
>>>
>>>   
>> 
>
> 

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Re: BEA licenses BlueDragon for WebLogic

2006-04-17 Thread Jordan Michaels
Some of us actually *like* knowing what's going on in the CFML
community. I don't think Vince's notice was meant as advertising, but
more of "Here's something significant that's happening in the CFML
community."

There's a great saying: "Knowledge is Power", and some of us like knowing.

-JM



Rastafari wrote:
> I didnt realize that cf-talk was open for advertising.
> 
> Excellent...
> 
> ras
> 
> On 4/17/06, Vince Bonfanti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>>Good question--I guess I should have put more detail in my original message.
>>>From the BEA press release: "BlueDragon is designed to help enable customers
>>to modernize and extend legacy ColdFusion Markup Language (CFML)
>>applications to run on BEA WebLogic Server, which can thereby allow
>>companies to reuse existing technology to help meet evolving business
>>needs."
>>
>>If you're looking to run CFML applications on BEA WebLogic, you can now buy
>>a solution directly from BEA.
>>
>>Some people might also find it significant that BEA is now essentially a
>>competitor to Adobe in a portion of the ColdFusion server market (that
>>"portion" being people who are now or are planning to redeploy existing CFML
>>applications onto WebLogic servers).
>>
>>Vince
>>
>>
>>>-Original Message-
>>>From: Rastafari [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>Sent: Monday, April 17, 2006 2:29 PM
>>>To: CF-Talk
>>>Subject: Re: BEA licenses BlueDragon for WebLogic
>>>
>>>what does this have to do with coldfusion?
>>>
>>>just wondering?
>>>
>>>On 4/17/06, Vince Bonfanti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>BEA has announced that they've licensed BlueDragon to resell with
>>>>their WebLogic J2EE server. The rebranded, "BlueDragon, BEA
>>>
>>>WebLogic
>>>
>>>>Edition" is being sold and supported by BEA as a BEA
>>>
>>>product. Links to
>>>
>>>>press releases and additional details are on my blog:
>>>>
>>>>http://blog.newatlanta.com/index.cfm
>>>>
>>>>Vince Bonfanti
>>>>New Atlanta Communications, LLC
>>>>http://www.newatlanta.com
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
> 
> 

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RE: BEA licenses BlueDragon for WebLogic

2006-04-17 Thread Damien McKenna
> -Original Message-
> From: Vince Bonfanti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Monday, April 17, 2006 1:30 PM
> 
> BEA has announced that they've licensed BlueDragon to resell 
> with their WebLogic J2EE server.

May I be the five hundreth to congratulate the team on this!  Very well
done!

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Re: BEA licenses BlueDragon for WebLogic

2006-04-17 Thread Rey Bango
Its not advertising Ras. Its an announcment of a major partnership 
between New Atlanta and BEA. No different than the ton of announcements 
I've seen on CF-Talk over the last 6 years.

Rey...

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Re: BEA licenses BlueDragon for WebLogic

2006-04-17 Thread Russ Michaels
ColdfusionMX = CFML application server
BlueDragon = CFML application server

So in answer to your question, it has everything to do with the coldfusion
markup language, which presumably you use if your on this list, but
nothing to do with ColdFusion server.

Russ




-Original Message-
From: Rastafari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: CF-Talk 
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 14:29:20 -0400
Subject: Re: BEA licenses BlueDragon for WebLogic

> what does this have to do with coldfusion?
> 
> just wondering?
> 
> On 4/17/06, Vince Bonfanti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > BEA has announced that they've licensed BlueDragon to resell with
> their
> > WebLogic J2EE server. The rebranded, "BlueDragon, BEA WebLogic
> Edition" is
> > being sold and supported by BEA as a BEA product. Links to press
> releases
> > and additional details are on my blog:
> >
> > http://blog.newatlanta.com/index.cfm
> >
> > Vince Bonfanti
> > New Atlanta Communications, LLC
> > http://www.newatlanta.com
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> 
> 

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Re: BEA licenses BlueDragon for WebLogic

2006-04-17 Thread Matt Robertson
>I didnt realize that cf-talk was open for advertising.

I don't mind a discreet, brief post from the market's bigger players notifying 
me of *significant* developments.  If its a problem I'm sure the forum 
moderator will deal with it.

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Re: BEA licenses BlueDragon for WebLogic

2006-04-17 Thread Rastafari
I didnt realize that cf-talk was open for advertising.

Excellent...

ras

On 4/17/06, Vince Bonfanti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Good question--I guess I should have put more detail in my original message.
> >From the BEA press release: "BlueDragon is designed to help enable customers
> to modernize and extend legacy ColdFusion Markup Language (CFML)
> applications to run on BEA WebLogic Server, which can thereby allow
> companies to reuse existing technology to help meet evolving business
> needs."
>
> If you're looking to run CFML applications on BEA WebLogic, you can now buy
> a solution directly from BEA.
>
> Some people might also find it significant that BEA is now essentially a
> competitor to Adobe in a portion of the ColdFusion server market (that
> "portion" being people who are now or are planning to redeploy existing CFML
> applications onto WebLogic servers).
>
> Vince
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Rastafari [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, April 17, 2006 2:29 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Re: BEA licenses BlueDragon for WebLogic
> >
> > what does this have to do with coldfusion?
> >
> > just wondering?
> >
> > On 4/17/06, Vince Bonfanti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > BEA has announced that they've licensed BlueDragon to resell with
> > > their WebLogic J2EE server. The rebranded, "BlueDragon, BEA
> > WebLogic
> > > Edition" is being sold and supported by BEA as a BEA
> > product. Links to
> > > press releases and additional details are on my blog:
> > >
> > > http://blog.newatlanta.com/index.cfm
> > >
> > > Vince Bonfanti
> > > New Atlanta Communications, LLC
> > > http://www.newatlanta.com
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> 

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RE: BEA licenses BlueDragon for WebLogic

2006-04-17 Thread Vince Bonfanti
Good question--I guess I should have put more detail in my original message.
>From the BEA press release: "BlueDragon is designed to help enable customers
to modernize and extend legacy ColdFusion Markup Language (CFML)
applications to run on BEA WebLogic Server, which can thereby allow
companies to reuse existing technology to help meet evolving business
needs."

If you're looking to run CFML applications on BEA WebLogic, you can now buy
a solution directly from BEA.

Some people might also find it significant that BEA is now essentially a
competitor to Adobe in a portion of the ColdFusion server market (that
"portion" being people who are now or are planning to redeploy existing CFML
applications onto WebLogic servers).

Vince

> -Original Message-
> From: Rastafari [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Monday, April 17, 2006 2:29 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: BEA licenses BlueDragon for WebLogic
> 
> what does this have to do with coldfusion?
> 
> just wondering?
> 
> On 4/17/06, Vince Bonfanti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > BEA has announced that they've licensed BlueDragon to resell with 
> > their WebLogic J2EE server. The rebranded, "BlueDragon, BEA 
> WebLogic 
> > Edition" is being sold and supported by BEA as a BEA 
> product. Links to 
> > press releases and additional details are on my blog:
> >
> > http://blog.newatlanta.com/index.cfm
> >
> > Vince Bonfanti
> > New Atlanta Communications, LLC
> > http://www.newatlanta.com
> >
> 



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Re: BEA licenses BlueDragon for WebLogic

2006-04-17 Thread Rastafari
what does this have to do with coldfusion?

just wondering?

On 4/17/06, Vince Bonfanti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> BEA has announced that they've licensed BlueDragon to resell with their
> WebLogic J2EE server. The rebranded, "BlueDragon, BEA WebLogic Edition" is
> being sold and supported by BEA as a BEA product. Links to press releases
> and additional details are on my blog:
>
> http://blog.newatlanta.com/index.cfm
>
> Vince Bonfanti
> New Atlanta Communications, LLC
> http://www.newatlanta.com
>
>
>
> 

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