Re: Ent. vs Standard in pdf generation

2006-04-08 Thread Marty Johll
Thanks to:
http://www.dmxzone.com/showDetail.asp?TypeId=28&NewsId=8105&LinkFile=page2.htm

where I found this:

*cfdocument differences in ColdFusion MX 7 versions*

There is a performance limitation with the cfdocument tag in the "CFMX 7
Standard edition". It processes the cfdocument requests one at a time. The
Enterprise edition can publish multiple documents at the same time.


On 4/7/06, Marty Johll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Does someone know or be able to point me in the direction of where I could
> find information related to the measurable difference between CF Enterprise
> and Standard when it comes to pdf generation.  We're looking to purchase a
> CF license for a site which has a primary purpose of generating a pdf report
> (about 30 page report, with maybe a few graphics).  Based on what we think
> traffice will be to the site we want to find out if the difference would
> justify the purchase of Enterprise.
>
> Thanks,
> Marty
>


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Re: Ent. vs Standard in pdf generation

2006-04-08 Thread Denny Valliant
On 4/8/06, Paul Hastings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Denny Valliant wrote:
> > added it when they added cfdocument, neh? It would be nice if they
> > contributed back the code for HTML > PDF. Not that I'm one to talk,
> > obviously.  You won't find a blog entry documenting my experiences. :-)



i'm not sure what you're referring to. html to pdf is itext & in fact mm did
> contribute some fixes, etc. back to the project (cfdocument simplifies
> things
> immensely) . bruno even pointed that out as an example of the "why &
> wherefore"
> of opensource's benefiting from commercial projects.


mmf mfmmf ffmmfm- excuse me, had a foot in my mouth.

Well colour me embarrased, I did not know that.

After messing with various HTML > PDF generators, I was really impressed
with the cfdocument tag.  As I didn't see anything even close to as good as
cfdocument, I assumed it was closed-source, so to speak.  I'm glad they
contributed fixes and didn't just mooch, unlike myself for the most part.

I never read bruno and the "why & wherefore".  I like the symbiotic
relationship
that has developed with OS and $$ tho.  Sorta bound to happen, if'n ya ask
me.

There isn't a OS java app that converts html as well as cfdocument does by
any chance, is there? If it did flashpaper that would be a plus... ;-)


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Re: Ent. vs Standard in pdf generation

2006-04-08 Thread Paul Hastings
Denny Valliant wrote:
> added it when they added cfdocument, neh? It would be nice if they
> contributed back the code for HTML > PDF. Not that I'm one to talk,
> obviously.  You won't find a blog entry documenting my experiences. :-)

i'm not sure what you're referring to. html to pdf is itext & in fact mm did 
contribute some fixes, etc. back to the project (cfdocument simplifies things 
immensely) . bruno even pointed that out as an example of the "why & wherefore" 
of opensource's benefiting from commercial projects.

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Re: Ent. vs Standard in pdf generation

2006-04-08 Thread Denny Valliant
Well, it wasn't easy, at first.  I'd like to take a moment and thank you for
posting what you'd accomplished, it helped get me up and running.

With all the nifty class loaders and such it isn't quite as difficult...
funny you'd mention the fact that it's built into CF now (actually, it has
been in there for a while, I just noticed they updated from the dori. to the
net.sf a while back (when suddenly ^JR stopped working.;))  they must have
added it when they added cfdocument, neh? It would be nice if they
contributed back the code for HTML > PDF. Not that I'm one to talk,
obviously.  You won't find a blog entry documenting my experiences. :-)

I like the fine grained control... and iReport is much better with every
release, which is quite often- AND it works on various platforms, unlike the
current CF report designer.

Subreports and whatnot have come a long way as well, it looks pretty easy
(if you know some java ;) to pass them as variables and whatnot, even.  I
don't use them tho, so take it with a grain of salt.

If what you're really about is reports, it's a swell app. And the fact that
it's all XML makes it pretty easy to create stuff on the fly, then you can
save the compiled report for caching.  And ^JR seems much faster at large
reports than CF.  I'm kind of keen on the idea of the
ussrp.sourceforge.netproject as well (which is runnable on JRun with
some tweaking).

You are totally right tho, not something for a newbie to try, unless you're
up for a challenge. It does make you feel so good to see those freaking
reports finally working tho... oh yeah... feels good. I really like the RTF
generation as well- when CF can render a web page as an RTF, that will make
some stone age people I know very happy.  Not an oft requested feature I
bet...

I think Rick has the right idea... download the trial/developer versions,
write up a test report similar to what you'd want to run, and test it out.
Know that settings such as the heap size and whatnot will effect performance
as well, 'specially with large reports.

You won't beat the ease of doing PDF generated reports in CF, it's quite
swell. I'll use a web based report and just wrap it in a cfdocument tag
(maybe use a little CSS to format it).  Which, BTW, you won't be able to do
if you do install ^JR (without renaming it).

As a side note, watching the FLEX chart demos made me kind of happy. Now
that's a slick interface for reports.



On 4/7/06, Rick Root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Denny Valliant wrote:
> > depanding on what you want to do, you could use ^JasperReports, and go
> with
> > the standard ed..
>
> while ^jasperReports does work and can be integrated into CF, I'm not
> sure I'd recommend it to anyone now that it's built into CF.. for a
> variety of reasons.
>
> #1 - implementing ^jasperReports is NOT easy.
> #2 - implementing ^jasperReports is NOT supported.
> #3 - you will be pretty much on your own, I found virtually no help from
> cf-talk when I did it 2 years ago.
> #4 - iReport Designer is not a very friendly report designer
> (so much so that I ended up doing most of my edits to the XML report
> design file directly once I understood the syntax)
> #5 - god help you if you want to do subreports!
>
> Perhaps you could download a trial of enterprise and run some
> comparitive tests.
>
> Rick
>
> 

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Re: Ent. vs Standard in pdf generation

2006-04-07 Thread Rick Root
Denny Valliant wrote:
> depanding on what you want to do, you could use ^JasperReports, and go with
> the standard ed..

while ^jasperReports does work and can be integrated into CF, I'm not 
sure I'd recommend it to anyone now that it's built into CF.. for a 
variety of reasons.

#1 - implementing ^jasperReports is NOT easy.
#2 - implementing ^jasperReports is NOT supported.
#3 - you will be pretty much on your own, I found virtually no help from 
cf-talk when I did it 2 years ago.
#4 - iReport Designer is not a very friendly report designer
(so much so that I ended up doing most of my edits to the XML report 
design file directly once I understood the syntax)
#5 - god help you if you want to do subreports!

Perhaps you could download a trial of enterprise and run some 
comparitive tests.

Rick

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Re: Ent. vs Standard in pdf generation

2006-04-07 Thread Denny Valliant
depanding on what you want to do, you could use ^JasperReports, and go with
the standard ed..

On 4/7/06, Marty Johll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Does someone know or be able to point me in the direction of where I could
> find information related to the measurable difference between CF
> Enterprise
> and Standard when it comes to pdf generation.  We're looking to purchase a
> CF license for a site which has a primary purpose of generating a pdf
> report
> (about 30 page report, with maybe a few graphics).  Based on what we think
> traffice will be to the site we want to find out if the difference would
> justify the purchase of Enterprise.
>
> Thanks,
> Marty
>
>
> 

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